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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Well what a weekend. Anthony Albanezi led Labor to a

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Speaker 2: historic victory, Peter Dutton lost his seat. Both Palmer proved

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Speaker 2: that sending unsolicited texts and spending millions and millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars didn't pay off. For more, we're joined by seven

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Speaker 2: News political editor Mark Riley.

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Speaker 1: Hollow Mark, Hey, Amanda, this is seen.

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Speaker 2: Around the world as an anti Trump move. What role

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Speaker 2: do you think Donald Trump played in this election?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I said at one stage it was

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Speaker 1: like Charles and Diana's relationship. There was a third person

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Speaker 1: in there and they just didn't reveal themselves a long

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Speaker 1: way through. But look, you know what I've thought about

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Speaker 1: this over the last couple of days, and I think

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Speaker 1: I think the impact of Trump is this that Australian

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Speaker 1: voters saw what was going on in America and to

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Speaker 1: them that really typified change and as they thought, if

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Speaker 1: that's the price of change getting that fuller in charge,

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Speaker 1: we don't want it. And I think that was a

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Speaker 1: big part of it. But also his policy suite and

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Speaker 1: the belief writer assumed that Peter Dutton was proposing policies

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Speaker 1: that were Trump like was enough to repel a lot

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Speaker 1: of others.

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Speaker 3: And we saw Peter Dunton's humility in his concession speech

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Speaker 3: I've found was fantastic and I thought, well, where was

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Speaker 3: all that during the campaign?

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Speaker 1: Jonesy, They're always the best speeches. And I said to

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Speaker 1: Kim Beasley a couple of times, probably unfairly, that geez, Kim,

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Speaker 1: your concession speeches are good, and I've heard so many

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Speaker 1: of them. But that's actually on reflection, it is some kind.

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Speaker 1: But then it was, and it was a very generous speech.

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Speaker 1: You know, he hit all the right marks. He said

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Speaker 1: really lovely things about the Prime Minister's mum and what

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Speaker 1: she would have been thinking about is un from council housing,

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Speaker 1: all the rest of it. Terrific. See more of that

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Speaker 1: person on the campaign trail and you may have seen

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a different was maybe not The

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Speaker 1: thing that I'm reflecting on now, though, guys that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in my business are, is how we

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Speaker 1: didn't pick up up the level of animosity towards it

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Speaker 1: up and the Coalition during the campaign. And I think

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Speaker 1: the answer to that is because we were looking for it.

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Speaker 1: We're told to find it on the labor side, and

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Speaker 1: we were looking on the wrong side of the planet.

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Speaker 1: It was the other side where their voters had their

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Speaker 1: baseball bats wacking into the palms.

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Speaker 2: What do you think this means for the future of

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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party? I mean, have they lost their far

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Speaker 2: right as is the end of the culture walls as

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Speaker 2: a business model. What will it mean for them?

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Speaker 1: Great question? You know what this is. It is an

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Speaker 1: existential crisis for the Liberal Party. Not to put it

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Speaker 1: too profoundly, the problem is, Amanda, that the policies of

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Speaker 1: the right, of the conservative part of what John Howard

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Speaker 1: is to call the broad Church, have been resoundingly rejected

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Speaker 1: by the electorate. But the only the majority of people

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Speaker 1: who've survived this nuclear blast are conservatives. The moderates have

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Speaker 1: almost been wiped out because the Teals came at the

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Speaker 1: Liberal Party from the left, brutalized their vote and then

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Speaker 1: essentially centered to labor. And I don't think a lot

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Speaker 1: of Liberal voters realized that they wouldn't vote for Dutton's

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Speaker 1: brand of liberalism, so they but they couldn't bring themselves

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Speaker 1: to vote for labor, so they voted tea or independent,

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Speaker 1: and by virtue doing that, their preferences went straight through labor.

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Speaker 1: So they lost a lot of their moderate edge, and

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Speaker 1: now in the broad Church, that small il liberal progressive

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Speaker 1: part is being excommunicated. All you've got left is the

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Speaker 1: conservatives looking at a landscape where the people are telling

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Speaker 1: them to go back to the center where the moderates

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Speaker 1: used to used to live and no longer. So it's

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Speaker 1: a really tough plant find guy mart Yeah, well guy

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Speaker 1: or woman exactly? Well, a woman would be a bad thing,

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Speaker 1: would it. You know, you need change, You need to

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Speaker 1: put a different face to the people, and you need

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Speaker 1: to put a different policy prescription and the culture wars.

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Speaker 1: You know, stop the division, don't set everything up as

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Speaker 1: a fight. Put a positive agenda to the people, and

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Speaker 1: a female face would help. But remember Julie Bishop said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I asked her when she clicked her redheels

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Speaker 1: and took off out of politics. Will the Liberal Party

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Speaker 1: ever elect a woman as lead? And she said, probably not.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we would giving him a choice, and

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Speaker 1: they haven't taken it. So at the moment you've got

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Speaker 1: four contenders. Angus Taylor's probably the leading contendant because he'll

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Speaker 1: get the numbers from the right, from that conservative part

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Speaker 1: of the party that now still probably more intensely dominates

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Speaker 1: the party room. There's Dantine from Victoria. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he'll get the support Susan Lee. She's a moderate and

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Speaker 1: a woman, and I don't think they haven't come electing

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Speaker 1: a moderate leaders it's more com terrible and they didn't

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Speaker 1: like that what happened there, and I don't think they'll

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Speaker 1: do it again. And the other one is Andrew Hasty,

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Speaker 1: who's from the West, which Bob and Beasley would say

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Speaker 1: is a very difficult place to lead from and not impossible.

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Speaker 1: But he's also young, so he represents the future for

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Speaker 1: them and you know, do you want to burn a

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Speaker 1: future leader in what will be? There'll be churn and

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Speaker 1: burn in this sink for for them in leadership it

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Speaker 1: would be really difficult troll. I don't know why anyone

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Speaker 1: would want it, but anyway that they will, so it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a conundrument. Well, mate, In the meantime, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's the other side of the equation. You know, Labor

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Speaker 1: have been masterful in the way that they set up

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Speaker 1: this election, the campaign and the and the questions to people.

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Speaker 1: So he had those, you know, the Prime Minister on

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Speaker 1: your program, on our programs, everywhere, talking about many care,

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Speaker 1: talking about bulk billing, talking about urgent care clinics, talking

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Speaker 1: about cheaper medicines and sort of stuff that really connects

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Speaker 1: with people. And he's been doing that since January, and

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Speaker 1: it works and in any circumstances, you know, Okay, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. But in politics, we look at things in

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Speaker 1: a binary way, and the winners of elections luxuriate in

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Speaker 1: the rosier glory of their brilliance and the and the

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Speaker 1: losers are a bunch of knuckleheads. That's just the way

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Speaker 1: that the analysis goes. But in this case it's pretty true.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you your analysis. You can get all the latest,

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Speaker 3: of course, Mike Ferguson and Angela Cox on seven News

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Speaker 3: tonight at six o'clock on seven and you'll see Mike

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Speaker 3: Riley in there.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for us. And if I can I say

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Speaker 1: if I was able to watch another network, another program,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I just sort of blinked at the piano

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Speaker 1: last night. Oh my god, Amanda, what a great program.

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Speaker 2: It'll be great. I was there at the time and

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Speaker 2: it was filmed and I was still bored. When I

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Speaker 2: watched it last night.

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Speaker 1: I had a little tear. I was seeing the thinking,

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Speaker 1: oh I must be tired. That was a wonderful program.

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Speaker 3: Thank you see the old journalists don't and the blob

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Speaker 3: come on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you back there