1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Before we get into the episode, we want to issue 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,319 Speaker 1: a trigger warning as we will be discussing medical misinformation 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: and also themes around eating disorders. Episode two, Wellness Warrior 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: or Menace to Public Health. Sarah Stevenson was at the 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: peak of her influence, fresh from launching her first e book. 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Her YouTube career was exploding, the brand deals were flying in, 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: and her ever growing audience was captivated in her picture 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: perfect life That's so exciting beginning, until a devastating call 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: from her doctor stopped her in her tracks. The Holistic 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: health princess had been diagnosed with high grade cervical displatia. 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm at level three, which means I'm at the most 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: high risk stage. So basically there's stage one, stage two, 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: and stage three, and then there's cervical cancer. 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Instead of following her doctor's orders to have the pre 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: cancerous cells surgically removed, Sarah embarked on a mission to 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: try and cure herself naturally. 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: Part of my plan of attack to cure myself is 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: no coffee. 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Of course. The YouTuber took her one million followers along 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: for the ride, blurring the lines between opinion, advice and advertising. 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: Alkaline greens and ultra claims because I'm all about that 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: anti inflammatory, antioxidant and alkalizing life, and then also spir 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: lean for the immune boosting properties. 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: Seven months later, Sarah declared she had naturally cured her 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: cervical displacure. 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: The rest of this video is just telling you all 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: of the healthy ways that I cured my cervix and 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: how I am now free, pretty much free from cervical displature. 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: This wild claim catapulted the twenty four year old into 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: mainstream media discourse and left people questioning whether Sarah's Day 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: was a wellness warrior or a menace to public health. 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: We a journalist, Sophie Kate and Amy Torber, and we're 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: fascinated by the world of influencers and the psychology of 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: cancel culture. In this series, we will delve into Sarah's 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: Day's biggest scandals, her fall from grace, and the dangers 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: of influence. This is Outspoken Plus. In episode one, We 37 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: Left You in twenty eighteen, Sarah had just left her 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: followers on a cliffhanger, writing, I received a call from 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: my doctor. What she told me has shaken my entire life. 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: I needed time to understand and accept the news before 41 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: opening up. Thank you for caring. I will share more 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: in my next vlog now. Followers had to wait a 43 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: week before Sarah broke the news that she had been 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: diagnosed with high grade cervical displacire, and despite her gynecologist 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: telling her to have the pre cancerous cells surgically removed, 46 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: she begged him to give her three more months to 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: see if she could cure herself. I'm so glad that 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to discuss this controversy and debunk 49 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: the medical misinformation that was being shared by Sarah back 50 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. The worst part is that this information 51 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: is still online and able to be accessed by impressionable 52 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: young women, and of course still monetized content. After being 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: diagnosed with SIN three, Sarah documented in her vlogs how 54 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: she was using healthy food as a form of medicine 55 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: to try and cure her condition. On the twenty fifth 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: of July twenty eighteen, seven months after being diagnosed with 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: SIN three, Sarah declared in a YouTube video that she 58 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: had naturally cured her high grade cervical displacire. Let's throw 59 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: to a clip of how she started this sixty minute 60 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: YouTube video. 61 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: Everything in the health world, especially if it's like a 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: serious health issue, there's just so much backlash and judgment 63 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: that comes with it. But I'm really trying to like 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: not think about that and think about you guys and 65 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: the girls who are watching this video, who are currently 66 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: going through this, Because when I found out that I 67 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: had cervical displasure, all I was doing was just like 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: researching every single night. So I'm making this video for 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: my past self. I'm going to go through everything with 70 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: you guys, how I healed myself. 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Sarah then made a bunch of discs, saying she wasn't 72 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: a medical professional and recommended seeking medical advice. But then 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: she went on to say this, if. 74 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: You're watching this video right now and you're already wanting 75 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: to rip me to shreds for like talking about healthy alternatives, 76 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: you should probably just click off now because the rest 77 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: of this video is just telling you all of the 78 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: healthy ways that I cured my cervix and how I 79 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: am now free pretty much free from cervical displasia. So 80 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: I'll just give you a moment to leave. 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: During the video, Sarah explained that her doctor advised her 82 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: to undergo a loop electrosurgical excision procedure known as leap. 83 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: In this procedure, a wire loop heated by electric current 84 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: is used to remove cells and tissues in the cervix. 85 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: In the video, Sarah outlined what she saw as pros 86 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: and cons of the procedure and explained she was concerned 87 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: about the negative side effects. Alarmingly, in this video, Sarah 88 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: started handing out advice and going into explicit detail about 89 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: how she claims to have healed her SIN three. So 90 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: before we get into it, we want to outline that 91 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: there is no so scientific research that has proven a 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: correlation between any of the claim Sarah is making. In fact, 93 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: doctors have since come out and said how dangerous her 94 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: advice is. Now, Sarah decided to do her own research, 95 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: which involved reading books and speaking to people like her mum, 96 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: who also had cervical displacire. Sarah later claimed her own 97 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: mum had cured her SIN one herself. Now. A big 98 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: part of this process, according to Sarah, was revamping her nutrition, 99 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: lifestyle and supplementation. Sarah then proceeded to list all the 100 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: supplements she took and explained she was only eating organic 101 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: foods to ensure she got the most nutrients possible. She 102 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: also said she prayed a lot and thought positively. I 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: also forgot about this tip. Sarah said that she had 104 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: made her own suppository, which, as the name suggests, she 105 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: put up her bum. It's just so dangerous that she's 106 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: going into explicit details, step by step of what she 107 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: has done and then is claiming that these are the 108 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: steps to cure yourself. I know well to that's the 109 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: end of the video. Sarah relaid a phone conversation she 110 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: had between her and a gynecologist regarding the results from 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: the follow up test. Let's throw to what Sarah claims 112 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: her doctor said. 113 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: So he was on the phone and he said, I'm 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: so excited and overwhelmed to tell you that you are 115 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: now possible low grade. So for a second I was like, 116 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: is that good? And he was basically like, yes, that's amazing. 117 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: You're not high grade anymore. You're not even moderate grade. 118 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: You're not even low grade. You are just possible low grade, 119 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: which means that there's possibly some abnormal cells on my cervix. 120 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: Booking three months later, which I think is now I 121 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: should probably a book in now possible low grade. And 122 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: if I keep doing what I'm doing, it's highly likely 123 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: that by the time I see him now, which is July, 124 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: that I'll be completely clear. And I called my mom, 125 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: and I called my sisters and I called curtain Will, 126 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: all crying, like making chances. 127 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: It was just like so amazing. 128 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm still so shocked, so proud of myself that I 129 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: did it. I really just can't believe it. It's definitely 130 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: the most serious health issue that I've been able to 131 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: tackle in a healthy, holistic, natural way. Yeah, at the 132 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: end of the day, my takeaway is to increase immunity, 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: increase antioxidants in as natural and whole food based as possible. 134 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: If you can get organic, great, If you can't, don't stress. 135 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: Try to decrease the stress in your life. Yeah, that's 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: pretty much how I. 137 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Did it now. Disturbingly, this video has amassed over four 138 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two thousand views and has attracted over 139 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: two thousand comments, and there are countless women thanking Sarah 140 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: for sharing her knowledge. Some women said they feel like 141 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: they can now overcome their own cervical display sure through 142 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: lifestyle changes. Alarmingly, others even commented that they were trying 143 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: to heal themselves using Sarah's advice, rather than having the 144 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: urgent surgery that gynecologists recommended. Now, before we get into 145 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: this next section, we must point out that we are 146 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: not medical professionals and the information we have presenting is 147 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: from the Cancer Council and doctors. So firstly, cervical displature 148 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: is the medical term used to describe when cells have 149 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: mutated but haven't yet become cancerous. According to the Cancer Council, 150 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: there is strong evidence that twenty eight percent of women 151 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: with sin will regress spontaneously. However, there is no evidence 152 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: that there's anything a woman can do in terms of 153 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: diet or lifestyle that can promote regression. Therefore, it's very 154 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: likely that Sarah was in the lucky twenty eight percent 155 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: whose sin regressed spontaneously, and it had nothing to do 156 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: with the organic food she was eating or the supplements 157 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: she was taking. I think it was really irresponsible for 158 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: Sarah to claim she cured herself with healthy eating. Unfortunately, 159 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: not everyone is lucky enough to have their sin regress, 160 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: and delaying timely gynological interventions can potentially lead to someone 161 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: developing cervical cancer. And at this time, Sarah had built 162 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: a name for herself as a wellness warrior, so she 163 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: was selling a healthy, happy lifestyle to her followers, and 164 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: when she spoke about health, she did so with authority. 165 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: And this is despite the fact that Sarah, along with 166 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: a vast majority of other fitness influencers, have no medical 167 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: training or expertise in health and fitness. And what makes 168 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: this particularly dangerous is that many of these influencers speak 169 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: with an inflated sense of self belief. They are so 170 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: confident and wholeheartedly believe every word they're saying, and it 171 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: doesn't always come from a bad place. Most of the time, 172 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: they are genuinely passionate about the topics they're speaking on, 173 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: and they go out and do their own research, but 174 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: generally that involves a lot of googling and looking into 175 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: sources that back up their own way of thinking. And 176 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: I personally think that the deliberate use of the word 177 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: cure and heal throughout these videos is incredibly misleading. To me, 178 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: it appears as though she was impressed by her own 179 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: perceived ability to improve her cervical health that she now 180 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: wanted to share this information with their followers so they 181 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: two knew exactly how to do it. And also to me, 182 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: by saying you cured or healed yourself of a condition. 183 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: It gives you this huge sense of power. It gives 184 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: you this god like power. And at the very least, 185 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: you're sitting there saying that you know more than medical 186 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: professionals who have trained their whole life to treat conditions 187 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: like these. It's not just misleading, it's irresponsible to be 188 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: sharing this type of content. And I do understand how 189 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: distressing and overwhelming it would be to find out that 190 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: you have SIN three. On a smaller scale, a couple 191 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: of years ago, I found out that I had SIN one, 192 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: and the phone call from the doctor it left me 193 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: really shaken and imagining every worst case scenario. And I 194 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: get that Sarah wouldn't have been in a great headspace, 195 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: but she did create this video once she discovered that 196 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: it had regressed, so this was months after the initial diagnosis. 197 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: It's interesting, though, because when I was trying to find 198 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: information about this video recently on YouTube, there are so 199 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: many people with similar titles to Sarah talking about how 200 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: they healed themselves and cured themselves. I wonder if it 201 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: was a case of Sarah jumping on that band, But 202 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: because she had a million followers, it got so much 203 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: attention and backlash. I do feel like Sarah presented this 204 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: video under the guise of helping others, but it actually 205 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: ended up shaming those who haven't been able to quote 206 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: naturally heal themselves. And it probably left a lot of 207 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: her viewers wondering had they done enough and had they 208 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: taken the easy way out having elite procedure. And even 209 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: for those who perhaps did take the natural route, maybe 210 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: they felt guilt oven not picking the right organic fruit 211 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: and bench, or not following it to a tea, or 212 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: not having money for organic fruit and a VETI and 213 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: it really lot of pressure on you, and it really 214 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: annoys me considering that it is a spontaneous thing, this regression. 215 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with anything you were eating. 216 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: That's the thing. My sin one regressed after six months, 217 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: I had a retest it han regressed. I hadn't changed 218 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: any of my health or lifestyle factors. Yeah, And the 219 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: thing that really annoys me is Sarah's job is literally 220 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: to influence young women to buy things. She knows she 221 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: has the power to influence women's health too, and she 222 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: has essentially provided a guide to follow to apparently cure 223 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: cervical displacire. And my question is what if this influence 224 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: has stopped women from getting urgent treatment they require. What 225 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: happens if someone has lost their life because they took 226 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: on this advice rather than taking their doctor's recommendations. Could 227 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: she be liable or sued? Could YouTube be sued for 228 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: allowing this misinformation on their platform. Well, recently we've been 229 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: talking about the US fitness influencer Britney Dawn Davis, who 230 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: is being sued by the State of Texas for allegedly 231 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: misleading women with eating disorders with her fitness program. And 232 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: this is a real reckoning between influencers and the law. 233 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: So it's going to be really interesting to see what 234 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: happens and if this sets any precedence moving forward. I 235 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: definitely think this will have huge ramifications for the influencer industry. 236 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: And back to Sarah's advice, it seems pretty convenient that 237 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: the recommendations she was giving were directly linked to products 238 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: that she promotes. So essentially, Sarah was selling a remedy 239 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: to cure cervical displacia, and the only ones that were 240 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: benefiting were her and her sponsors. The context, she was 241 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: promoting the use of a number of Trepeka's supplements in 242 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: her videos, and I'm sure sales would have skyrocketed then, 243 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: And you would think, with six years of hindsight and reflection, 244 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: this whole saga would be something that Sarah regretted, but 245 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: she confirmed in a recent interview with Grace Beverley that 246 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: she had few regrets about her online behavior. Let's row 247 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: to what she said. 248 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: I'd like to know when you look back, is there 249 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: anything that stands out to you as something that you 250 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: would have done differently? No, because I feel like if 251 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: you're a person and you love where you are and 252 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: you feel so I hate the word blessed, but you 253 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: know hashtag blessed. I am so content in my life 254 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: right now, with my family, with my job and everything. 255 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: I get scared if I say, oh I would have 256 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: changed this, would I be here now? I love everything 257 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: about my life right now. Was saying to my mom 258 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: the other day, I'm living the best years of my 259 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 2: life as a mum, as a business owner. I'm so content. 260 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, do I wish I could kind 261 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: of go back and not, you know, maybe have that 262 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: toxic reaction with people. Do I wish I didn't do 263 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: if a fics in Macros? Do I wish I didn't 264 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: do as many ABS selfies. Yes, actually that would be 265 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: the one. I wish I didn't do this as much 266 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: to the camera and like shred my abs and take 267 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: as many AB photos because I don't think that's positive 268 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: and I don't think any audience is going to leave 269 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: that feeling empowered. Everyone sees that, and yeah, so it's 270 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: like that. But for me personally, if it's about me, no, 271 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: because it helped me learn and evolve and I'm not 272 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: that person anymore. But in terms of my audience, yeah, 273 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: I wish I didn't do that. 274 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: The deflection in this interview was really disappointing. That being said, 275 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: perhaps if she took ownership over her actions and apologized, 276 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: maybe she would open herself up to lawsuits in the future. Yeah, 277 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: you make a good point. I was really disappointed in 278 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: Grace Beverley throughout this whole interview because I've that's what 279 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: she gave Sarah and out a lot of the time, 280 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: she basically put words into her mouth giving her a defense. 281 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Grace even went on to defend Sarah's AB selfie, 282 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: saying that contextually, at the time, everyone in the fitness 283 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: industry was doing it. I didn't get the whole ab 284 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: selfie thing because they were poking fun at it. But 285 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Sarah still creates that exact content. She's been promoting her 286 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: new active web brand and all of the videos and 287 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: photos are AB selfie. Oh she's always doing body checks 288 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: in the mirror now. The Shameless podcast was the first 289 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: media outlet to call out Sarah's Day for her dangerous messaging, 290 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: and with all due respect to Shameless, I use the 291 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: term media outlet loosely as the podcast was in its 292 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: infancy and it's not the powerhouse we know today. It 293 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: was actually Shameless's ninth ever episode and was released back 294 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: on May seventh, twenty eighteen. The episode was called fact 295 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: Checking a Healing Princess and in this episode, Zara McDonald 296 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: and Michelle Andrews were collectively horrified by Sarah's messaging and 297 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: compared her actions to Belle Gibson's. So for those who 298 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: don't know, Belle Gibson is a disgraced Australian wellness blogger 299 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: who was found guilty of deceptive and misleading conduct in 300 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen after claiming to have cured her cancer with 301 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: healthy eating and alternative therapies. Now Belle managed to build 302 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: a social media empire off the back of her fraudulent 303 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: health claims. She also made hundreds of thousands of dollars 304 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: in the process, including earning money from a cookbook and 305 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: an app. Now, it was later revealed Bell never had cancer, 306 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: so she made the startling admission in an interview with 307 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: the Australian Women's Weekly in twenty fifteen. Then in twenty seventeen, 308 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Bell was fined four hundred and ten thousand dollars by 309 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: the Federal Court, with the court finding she made false 310 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: claims about donating a large portion of her profits to 311 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: charities and to the family of a boy who had 312 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: an inoperable brain tumor. Now that figure later increased over 313 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars. Now is important to note that 314 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: we are not saying that what's Sarah did was in 315 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: the same realm as Belle Gibson by any means. Shameless 316 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: also reiterated that during the episode, they said Belle and 317 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: Sarah's claims were very different, and Belle had claimed to 318 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: cure her cancer, whereas Sarah was claiming she cured pre 319 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: cancerous cells on her cervix. Michelle and Zara did however, 320 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: conclude that Sarah's behavior was a step away from Belle's 321 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: and she was dangerous. So Following the episode, Shameless received 322 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: a statement from doctor Brad mackay about Sarah's claims. He wrote, 323 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: Promoting a healthy lifestyle is admirable, but believing you've healed 324 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: your cervical displacire naturally is not grounded in reality. Your 325 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: immune system is extremely complex and you don't have much 326 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: control over it. It's narcissistic to believe that you can 327 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: heal your cervix with positive thoughts and green smoothies. Declaring 328 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: that you've healed your cervix naturally is not only ignorant, 329 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: but it's also insulting to those people who have been 330 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: diagnosed with cervical displacure or cervical cancer. It implies that 331 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: if you require treatment, you haven't prayed hard enough, haven't 332 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: thought positively enough, or haven't eaten the right nutritional supplements. 333 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes bad things happen, and it's not helpful or accurate 334 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: to play the blame game. I'm glad to hear that 335 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: her high grade cervical lesion is now a low grade lesion, 336 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: but it's dangerous to recommend others to follow a sin 337 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: through routine based on an anecdotal experience. 338 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: Now. 339 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: Doctor Brad McKay went on to write about Sarah's day 340 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: in his book called Fake Medicine, which he released in 341 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. So in his book, doctor McKay concluded 342 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: by writing, this beautiful, bubbly and charming young woman appears innocent, 343 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: but when she provides dodgy health advice to a massive audience, 344 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: ignores feedback from health professionals, and disregards the safety of 345 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: her dedicated fans, we can consider her to be a 346 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: menace to public health. Sarah's day will come when her 347 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: fans notice the danger she poses by preaching poor health 348 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: advice and the blurred lines she's created between opinion advice 349 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: and advertising. Why the media backlash? Sarah stayed quiet. Instead, 350 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: she was in the process of launching the Ultimate Secret Project. 351 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: Just three months later, on the twenty third of September 352 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Sarah announced she was pregnant. The news was 353 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: totally unexpected. Sarah had told her audience it would be 354 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: really hard for her to fall pregnant due to her 355 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: p coos and unbalanced hormones. Her period had only just 356 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: returned in January twenty eighteen after a year of Amenoriea. 357 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: It's wild to watch the pregnancy announcement back. Do you 358 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: guys remember it? Yeah? I remember it because it was 359 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: quite pivotal on her channel. I have in my mind 360 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: this vision of her wearing denim overalls, her and Kurt 361 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: standing on this cliff front and a lot of blue 362 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: and pink balloons. Yeah, and they had Abby running along. 363 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: It was a very happy scene. I've watched the video 364 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: back and I couldn't help but cringe at the acting, 365 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: because the video actually starts with Sarah and Kurt pretending 366 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: they are a couple's counselor and answering questions. And it 367 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: was in that era where they they used to do 368 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: those cringy David Attenborough accents. Yeah. I couldn't get around 369 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: those accents. They were very annoying, I know. 370 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: Well. 371 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: This scene was followed by a bunch of romantic flashback 372 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: clips of Sarah and Kurt over their relationship, and it 373 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: was very clear that Sarah and Kurt were keen to 374 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: push the narrative that this pregnancy was a miracle. They 375 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: were also trying to push how special their personal relationship was. 376 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: They had only been together for twenty two months at 377 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 1: this point, and while they had discussed children, this baby 378 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: wasn't planned. Yeah, And in the video narration, Sarah explains 379 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: that in the midst of her SIN three diagnosis, her 380 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: gynecologist told her that it would be extremely difficult, if 381 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: not impossible, for her to naturally full pregnant due to 382 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: her unbalanced hormones and PCs. She then went on to 383 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: say that all she ever wanted was to be a 384 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: mum and carry her own babies. Now, Sophy, you mentioned 385 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: it earlier, but the final scene was this beautiful scenic 386 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: shot of Sarah, Kurt and their dog Abby jogging along 387 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: a cliff front holding balloons with blue and pink confetti inside. 388 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: They went on to say it was the biggest surprise 389 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: of their lives and something they've dreamed of. Let's row 390 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: to what they said at the end. 391 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: So to our special new member of the squad, we 392 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: already love you so much and we can't. 393 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: Wait to be a vestie. 394 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: Ultimate secret project is coming in March. 395 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: See you soon, little one. It's officially and finally time 396 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: to activate milf Life. 397 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: I feel deeply uncomfortable with the last line when she 398 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: says time to activate milf life. I just sort of think, 399 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: what tickets do you have in yourself to say that. 400 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's tickets. I think that this 401 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: infatuation with being an attractive mum and that's your biggest 402 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: aim in life is a little bit sad and also reductive. 403 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: I also didn't like the reference to the ultimate secret 404 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: project is coming. It's like commodifying your child even before 405 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: it's born. Yeah, it definitely was convenient timing for this 406 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: pregnancy to come up. Well. A string of pregnancy videos followed, 407 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: which garnered millions of views. The cervical displacire controversy was 408 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: long in the past. The second video in the series 409 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: showed Sarah's raw reaction to finding out she was pregnant 410 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: after taking a pregnancy test. It was very awkward viewing 411 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: Sarah's bawling her eyes out. She said it was her dream, 412 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: but she also said that she was really shocked and 413 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: nervous because she had so many work opportunities coming up. 414 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: And Sarah then went on to say that Kurt knew 415 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: she was taking a pregnancy test, but she was going 416 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: to tell him it was negative so she could capture 417 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: his surprise reaction on camera. Yeah, I think that's what's 418 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: uncomfortable about the whole thing. It just all seems for 419 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: the views, the fact that you're telling your partner, nah, babe, 420 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: don't worry about it, not pregnant, but then coming up 421 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: with this video that's going to attract attention online. It 422 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: just doesn't sit comfortably with me. And she also spoke 423 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: about how she'd been watching a lot of these baby 424 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: announcement videos and one of the first things that popped 425 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: into her head was, oh, I better get the camera out, 426 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine that being a part of your 427 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: thought process in a truly shocked moment like that, particularly 428 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: if you thought you couldn't have children now. The arrival 429 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: of Sarah's first child, Fox Ocean, was her biggest YouTube 430 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: moment to date. Of course, Sarah vlogged the experience and 431 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: uploaded it four days after her son was born. At 432 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: the time of recording, that video has nine point four 433 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: million views. I remember at the time everyone was hanging 434 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: out to find out what this baby's name was, and 435 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: they ended up releasing a separate video to announce the name, 436 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: which got a further one point four million likes. Now 437 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Sarah's pregnancy wasn't drama free, with some people accusing her 438 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: of allegedly putting her son in danger in order to 439 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: have a natural delivery. However, all in all, her transition 440 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: into motherhood was a popular one, attracting Sarah more views 441 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: and more followers. But no one could have predicted what 442 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: the following year would hold for the world. There are 443 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: fears more than a thousand people could be infected with 444 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: a deadly SARS like virus in China. World Health Organization 445 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: has declared coronavirus a global pandemic. The COVID nineteen pandemic 446 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: changed life as we knew It logged inside our homes 447 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: with more free time than ever, public sentiment towards influences 448 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: began to shift and cancel culture began to rise. The 449 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: same year, the Black Lives Matter movement shook the world 450 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: as protests broke out around the globe following the murder 451 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: of George Floyd. 452 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 3: Cities across the United States remain in a state of 453 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: high tension tonight as the country braces itself for another 454 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: wave of protests over the death of George Floyd. 455 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: Flod chaos, violence, fire, and looty unfolding on the streets 456 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: of Minneapolis. Twenty twenty was a horror year for everyone, 457 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: but was also the year when Sarah's days biggest controversies 458 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: took place. Next week, we will delve into Sarah's biggest controversies, 459 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: including her bush fire fundraiser, accusations of cultural appropriation, and Ruggate. 460 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the 461 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respects to 462 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: elders past and present. Thank you so much for listening 463 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: to our second episode of Outspoken. Plus, we'll be back 464 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: in your year's next Wednesday with our third installment in 465 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: our Sarah's Day Deep Dive series.