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Speaker 1: Um mission with Jonesy and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Remember the old days where the only controversy Pete Evans

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Speaker 2: had was whether he scored an entree porley in My

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Speaker 2: Kitchen Rules.

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Speaker 1: Or he activated his arms.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's where it all began. I think that's where

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Speaker 2: we all started to see a different side of Peter Evans.

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Speaker 2: I don't know to consist on calling it Peter Evans. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Peter Evans, eyes to the front. He was a judge

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Speaker 2: on My Kitchen Rules with over white teeth and everyone

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Speaker 2: loved him. A very nice guy.

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Speaker 1: We've asked him, We've asked him directly about being in

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Speaker 1: Andy vaxxer, and he said he's not in Andy Vaxxer.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those people that wants you to research

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Speaker 1: the facts, but I think he has more responsibility in

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Speaker 1: doing that because people take what he's saying as gospel.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's go back to the beginning of the story

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Speaker 2: that I think we all saw a different side in

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Speaker 2: Pete when there was an article in on the Sunday

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Speaker 2: newspapers about what his day was on a plate, what

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Speaker 2: he ate and it was kind of crazy and it

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Speaker 2: had activated almonds.

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Speaker 1: Before heard Remember the EMU balls Imus were.

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Speaker 2: Furious those high voiced EMUs, what are you doings? Again?

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Speaker 2: Since then, there seems to have been controversy after controvers controversy.

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Speaker 2: He remember the one where he said bone broth was

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Speaker 2: an alternative to off the shelf baby formulas. He said

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Speaker 2: that drinking flori fluoride water well during pregnancy lowers the

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Speaker 2: baby's IQ. He said a paleo diet can treat autism,

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Speaker 2: asthma and cancer. And he is he is an anti vaxxer.

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Speaker 2: He might say otherwise, but media posts we say he is.

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Speaker 1: I wish I had it here. It's a playback because

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Speaker 1: we said, are you an anti vaxxer? And he said no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not well.

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Speaker 2: His latest claim, one of them, is that coronavirus doesn't exist,

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Speaker 2: and Melbourne doctor slammed him yesterday, calling him an effing

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Speaker 2: idiot for saying that coronavirus doesn't exist. He has scoffed

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Speaker 2: at medical claims that humans can spread COVID nineteen. Remember

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Speaker 2: he was selling a fifteen thousand dollars light machine that

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Speaker 2: can cure covid.

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Speaker 1: Is the same one that warning puts on his head

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Speaker 1: to grape care.

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Speaker 2: I dropped it in my lap. What a mistake.

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Speaker 1: That's quite the bush.

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Speaker 2: But yesterday this all ratcheted up a notch. He Peter

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Speaker 2: Evans posted a cartoon which was highly controversial. It has

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Speaker 2: a caterpillar talking to a butterfly and the caterpillar says,

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Speaker 2: you've changed, and the butterfly says, we're supposed to. But

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Speaker 2: there's a symbol on the butterfly's wing which is a

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Speaker 2: black sun, which is associated with an art sison. So,

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Speaker 2: as you can imagine, he is now since he got

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Speaker 2: in a lot of trouble, and rightly so. Pan McMillan,

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Speaker 2: who published all his cookbooks, have refused to have anything

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Speaker 2: further to do with him. So he has said, oh no,

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Speaker 2: I didn't really know what the symbol is, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But other people are disputing this. They are saying you

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Speaker 2: knew exactly what you were doing, and Pan McMillan has said,

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Speaker 2: we do not support the recent posts made by Pete Evans.

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Speaker 2: We are currently finalizing our relationship with Pete. We will

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Speaker 2: not have any further publishing Agreen. It's moving forward and

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Speaker 2: if any retailers wished to return his books please contact us.

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Speaker 2: In the midst of all this, I was looking at

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Speaker 2: Twitter last night, and a number of television writers were saying,

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Speaker 2: Peter Evans is about to go into the jungle for

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Speaker 2: I'm a celebrity, or into the bush. They're filming them

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Speaker 2: a woolenbar, and that hadn't been confirmed, but they were

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Speaker 2: speculating what does Channel ten do now? Well, I can

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Speaker 2: tell you yes, he is apparently about to start filming.

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Speaker 2: They're filming on Tuesday. Here he's in quarantine with all

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Speaker 2: the other people who are about to go into the bush.

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Speaker 2: They're starting filming on Tuesday. And now that controversy has

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Speaker 2: cost him his place, Channel ten have confirmed he will

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Speaker 2: now not be appearing.

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Speaker 1: No, who's going to eat all those Emi balls?

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is you can't afford I guess in

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Speaker 2: this day and age, we all have freedom of choice,

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Speaker 2: to freedom of speech, but can you going through this

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Speaker 2: in America? Can you allow misinformation to be given a platform?

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Speaker 2: That's a big discussion, isn't it, And particularly if we're

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Speaker 2: looking at rolling out of coronavirus vaccine. One of the

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Speaker 2: biggest hurdles to us conquering this is the anti vaxx

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Speaker 2: movement and how much airtime they get. So having Peter

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Speaker 2: in the jungle would have been hugely controversial.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so people would have watched it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know would they. A lot of people would

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Speaker 2: choose not to watch it because do you want to

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Speaker 2: support a platform for something like that.

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Speaker 1: But being in the media, there is a great deal

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Speaker 1: of responsibility that comes with it. And I've been doing

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Speaker 1: it for a long time as you have, and I've

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Speaker 1: found with the new wave of influencers, they've got the

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Speaker 1: platform that we've had for all these years, but we

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Speaker 1: know how to use this platform responsibly. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that you could say about anything, just your

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Speaker 1: own wall gatherings, and people might go on, hoy on,

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Speaker 1: he might have something there. Peter Evans has no more

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Speaker 1: knowledge about stuff than I do.

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Speaker 2: H Well, that's what's frightening. When they get a big

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Speaker 2: platform that scientists, medical professionals say that is not correct.

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Speaker 2: He gets a loud mouthpiece to say that, and as

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Speaker 2: we say, he can say what he likes, but then

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Speaker 2: he has to accept the repercussions his publisher has pulled out.

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Speaker 2: Channel ten's pulled out except those repercussions.

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Speaker 1: He probably would be better at maths than me, though,

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Speaker 1: but then again, who isn't a six year old kid

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Speaker 1: is better

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Speaker 2: At maths, as we've seen with Joins and Amanda