Speaker 1: The Rising Conker Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of the
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Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This is the podcast for
Speaker 1: ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things. Hello and
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Verizon Ponker Podcast. It is your host,
Speaker 1: Georgie Stephenson, lawyer turned entrepreneur, mum, business owner, all the things.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another Tuesday episode. Today we are chatting expanders.
Speaker 1: If you don't know what that is, hold tight. We
Speaker 1: get right into it and I have a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of examples. You're going to feel so inspired after this episode.
Speaker 1: But before we get into it, a little update on
Speaker 1: my week. Honestly, not too much to update. Had a
Speaker 1: very chill weekend. Wanted to spend a lot of quality
Speaker 1: time with Ivy and Tim. I just feel like we've
Speaker 1: had a whole bunch of weekends where we've had, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff on like friends' birthdays and this and that, and
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to spend a weekend at home.
Speaker 1: I even got a massage. It was lovely. I was
Speaker 1: also quite exhausted because I had a huge work week,
Speaker 1: obviously in the NH warehouse recording this. Pody and I
Speaker 1: also had a very exciting photo shoot. I did some
Speaker 1: stories a little sneak peek. I can't tell you exactly
Speaker 1: what that project is actually, I think I can tell
Speaker 1: you next week. Oh my god, I'm so excited. So
Speaker 1: I tell you guys about that next week. But it
Speaker 1: went really well. It was just really funny because before
Speaker 1: I got there, I was actually chatting to my EA Ellie,
Speaker 1: and I was so nervous. And it's like I've done
Speaker 1: photo shoots a lot, like I've been there, done that,
Speaker 1: it's not something new, and I was I was so nervous,
Speaker 1: and I had all these kind of thoughts running through
Speaker 1: my head of just like, you know, who am I
Speaker 1: to do this? You know, I'm six months postpartum, like oh,
Speaker 1: you know, worried about what I was gonna look like.
Speaker 1: And then like, you know, all these people are here
Speaker 1: for me, and I just I don't know. I had.
Speaker 1: I had a bit of like a moment where I
Speaker 1: was just like encompassed in Yeah, who am I to
Speaker 1: do this? In postera syndrome? And I really had to
Speaker 1: like put on a good song, pet myself up and
Speaker 1: be like I'm an ordinary person doing extraor ordinary things.
Speaker 1: And I had to give myself that pep talk. And
Speaker 1: I just wanted to touch on it today because I think,
Speaker 1: no matter how many times you get out of your
Speaker 1: comfort zone, it's still the same feeling of just being
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. But like I say to you guys all
Speaker 1: the time, that is where the magic happens. That is
Speaker 1: where the good shit happens. And I know that getting
Speaker 1: out of my comfort zone just leads to so many
Speaker 1: good things. So put my hype music on, I got
Speaker 1: on the zone, and I just had the best day.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm body excited. I hopefully get to tell
Speaker 1: you guys about that. But guys, this episode is a goodie.
Speaker 1: I hope you love it. Let's get straight into it,
Speaker 1: all right, guys, today we are chatting expanders. This is
Speaker 1: a term I coined, didn't coin this term, but I
Speaker 1: feel like I haven't really heard anyone talk about it.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I hadn't heard anyone talk about it
Speaker 2: when you brought it up. But I knew the concept
Speaker 2: but not the term expander. But then in the past
Speaker 2: week I've seen it a few places.
Speaker 1: That's so weird. I think the actual words expander is
Speaker 1: something I made up. Yeah, but then the actually what
Speaker 1: we're talking about is like not a common thing. But
Speaker 1: it's like, it's not the idea. Yeah exactly, let's just
Speaker 1: go where I coined it.
Speaker 2: When your Google expanded, it comes up with braces. So really,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I didn't even know this term.
Speaker 1: It's because I just go off simple words as well.
Speaker 1: So in the project I would have been like, use
Speaker 1: this as your expander, and then I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: Expanders's that's how the term came to me, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. So guys, today we are chatting expanders and
Speaker 1: if you don't know what that term means. So basically
Speaker 1: this has come about from my teachings in my seven
Speaker 1: week manifesting and self development cause the project. So in
Speaker 1: the project, I teach you my manifesting formula, and you know,
Speaker 1: we go through everything. This is not a part of
Speaker 1: the formula. This is like a manifestation hack that I
Speaker 1: will teach people as a way of basically how to
Speaker 1: get around a block they have with what they want
Speaker 1: to manifest. So, you know, in the course, a big
Speaker 1: thing I say to them is like, you have to
Speaker 1: dream big and you have to listen to your heart.
Speaker 1: So I call them like heart desires, Like you can't
Speaker 1: get it wrong if it's on your heart and you're
Speaker 1: following your intuition, even if it doesn't make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense, but it was put on your heart for reason.
Speaker 1: And then so people come back to me and they'll
Speaker 1: be like, you know, I on my heart, I've got
Speaker 1: this huge dream, but it doesn't make sense, and also
Speaker 1: like who am I to do this? But what I
Speaker 1: would then say to them is, well, you need to
Speaker 1: find your expander. So for example, they might be like,
Speaker 1: you know, I, let's just use me as an example.
Speaker 1: So you know, I've created two seven figure companies before
Speaker 1: I was thirty. That was my big goal of wanting
Speaker 1: to build a business, not just be an influencer, but
Speaker 1: also this huge thing of I wanted my businesses to
Speaker 1: be purposeful. I wanted to have you know, fun every day,
Speaker 1: and you know, I've got various goals anyway, So lots
Speaker 1: of people will be like, you know, my goals are similar,
Speaker 1: but how can I do what you've done? I don't
Speaker 1: have a following, or I don't have a brother, or
Speaker 1: I don't have a Cooper, I don't have a Cooper,
Speaker 1: And they will often get hung up on the Oh,
Speaker 1: but you know you can do that because of this
Speaker 1: and that, and then so my response to them is, yes,
Speaker 1: that is a fact about me. But also I guarantee
Speaker 1: you I could find someone who has done exactly what
Speaker 1: I've done without a following, without a Cooper, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So previously, when I have a huge goal,
Speaker 1: and I almost because to manifest a goal, you need
Speaker 1: to believe you can do it. Otherwise there's no way
Speaker 1: you're going to attract this thing in because that's just
Speaker 1: not like how the universe works, because like attracts like. So,
Speaker 1: if you don't believe something's going to happen, look it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not. So what I kind of explain to people
Speaker 1: is like, you need to believe it, and if you
Speaker 1: can't believe it, a great way to start believing it
Speaker 1: is like surrounding yourself with people who have done the
Speaker 1: things you want to do. And you know, the whole
Speaker 1: thing of you know, the five people you surround yourself with.
Speaker 2: Love that is like you're the average of the five
Speaker 2: per people you spend the most amount of time with.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so many people like holy shit, because you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they don't spend their time with the right people.
Speaker 1: And then also a big thing comes about of you know,
Speaker 1: well how do I find people you know, who I
Speaker 1: want to hang around with? And my example is always
Speaker 1: will go buy their books, listen to their podcast, research them.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be best friends. But for example,
Speaker 1: what I used to do on the bus when I
Speaker 1: was going to my law job is I used to
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. So technically every single day I'm surrounding
Speaker 1: myself with people who like I wanted to be. It
Speaker 1: was just before and after work. It wasn't during work,
Speaker 1: if that means.
Speaker 2: And even if they weren't physically there, like their influence
Speaker 2: was on you for X amount of hours of the day.
Speaker 1: Yes. Huge. So to the point, expanders is basically a
Speaker 1: manifestation hack, so you can believe in your goal and
Speaker 1: your manifestation. So we thought it would be a bit
Speaker 1: of fun today for me and a tea to come
Speaker 1: to you guys with some stories, well they're not stories
Speaker 1: because feral facts. Some a minor stories though, because a
Speaker 1: big thing too is expanders don't always have to be people.
Speaker 1: They can be movies, they can be books. Basically they
Speaker 1: are a person or a thing that expands you to
Speaker 1: believe in yourself. I didn't think about it like that.
Speaker 1: I doubt people. No, Yeah, And that's why I truly
Speaker 1: believe in the concept of like who the five people
Speaker 1: surround your the average of the five people you surround
Speaker 1: yourself with, But not so much that because to be
Speaker 1: completely honest, like a lot of my five people, like
Speaker 1: who knows that amount of people? No, But like my
Speaker 1: close friends, group and family, isn't necessarily people who are
Speaker 1: doing the same things to me or people I inspire
Speaker 1: to be. They're like just friends I want to surround
Speaker 1: myself with. And then people I inspire to be is
Speaker 1: books and podcasts and movies for me.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's like it just comes down to like
Speaker 2: how important it is to choose the content you consume
Speaker 2: carefully because it has an impact on.
Speaker 1: You huge And I think also once it's so it's
Speaker 1: the premise of the four minute mile. Have you heard
Speaker 1: about this? Stia, I haven't. Oh my god, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna butcher this. I do it every time I saw
Speaker 1: I've said it on this podcast. Actually I said on
Speaker 1: Rachel Dyllon's podcast, and I butchered it. So basically, the
Speaker 1: premise of the four minute mile is I believe it.
Speaker 1: It's like in America or something in the seventies, no
Speaker 1: one could run a mile in under four minutes, like
Speaker 1: just no one could do it. And then so what
Speaker 1: happened is one guy did it, and then no joke,
Speaker 1: after the world found out this one guy did it,
Speaker 1: like hundreds of people started doing it. So like that's
Speaker 1: such like a feel a cool thing of they thought
Speaker 1: it was impossible, and then one person did it, and
Speaker 1: then everyone was like, oh easy, I can do it too,
Speaker 1: and then people started, like hundreds of people started breaking
Speaker 1: this record, and that's such amazing. Isn't that such a
Speaker 1: testament to you know what we're talking about? So literally,
Speaker 1: for example, if you have big goals, or even not
Speaker 1: big goals, if you've just got goals and you're struggling
Speaker 1: to believe in yourself, a huge thing that I have
Speaker 1: done is surround myself with inspiring people or inspiring content
Speaker 1: to then make me believe it, and then you you
Speaker 1: bet I've gone and done it. That's awesome. So I've
Speaker 1: got about four or five stories. A Tear has got some.
Speaker 1: My stories are more like in my personal journey, and
Speaker 1: then A Tear has got some great just like huge one,
Speaker 1: huge one. She told me about them. I was like, what.
Speaker 1: So we thought it would be a fun episode to
Speaker 1: get your brains thinking about expanders. Tell you some inspiring stories,
Speaker 1: and then your homework for this week is, after this episode,
Speaker 1: think of what your huge goal is, think of what
Speaker 1: the block is, and then go and find either a
Speaker 1: person or a piece of content that tells you that
Speaker 1: you can achieve that goal. I love it, love Okay. Also,
Speaker 1: you know this is the whole concept of our new
Speaker 1: mancha that you know, we're just ordinary people doing extraordinary things. Yes,
Speaker 1: so what you're about to hear is just ordinary people
Speaker 1: doing extraordinary things. And guys, this is such a huge
Speaker 1: thing in manifesting too. This is such like a great
Speaker 1: manifesting hack and also just a very quick plug. I've
Speaker 1: kind of teas this in previous episodes, but the project
Speaker 1: is coming back for one Yes, so the project is
Speaker 1: coming back for one live round this year. I honestly
Speaker 1: just like don't have a lot of time this year
Speaker 1: between exciting projects and IVY, but I did promise you guys,
Speaker 1: and so we are excited it's coming back. It looks
Speaker 1: like it's going to be a July start date, but
Speaker 1: more to come. And yeah, I don't know. I'm now
Speaker 1: that we have gone back into the podcast and I've
Speaker 1: started talking about manifesting, like I so to do it again.
Speaker 1: I live for this shit. And then oh my god,
Speaker 1: just like the transformations that come out of the project
Speaker 1: is just it lights me out. So anyway, let's get
Speaker 1: into it. I'm going to start sounds good and this
Speaker 1: is like, this is going to be funny. But these
Speaker 1: were my expanders when I was in high school, when
Speaker 1: I didn't know expanders were a thing or what was
Speaker 1: even happening, or I didn't realize I was manifesting things.
Speaker 1: So these were my expanders that made me believe I
Speaker 1: could do my law degree. So I went to a
Speaker 1: public school. No one in my family has gone to university.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: My three older brothers were plumbers, my dad was a palmer.
Speaker 1: No one I really knew was going to university. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Out of my friend group, I don't think anyone went.
Speaker 1: And so I had this dream that I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to do something like prestigious, Like I wanted
Speaker 1: to be like a lawyer or doctor or you know,
Speaker 1: something like that that like my parents could be proud
Speaker 1: of me for doing it. It was very much that
Speaker 1: vibe and I had done legal studies at school and
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it, but I had this weird block about it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't be a lawyer. Lawyers are boring.
Speaker 1: Lawyers are boring, and also just didn't think I was
Speaker 1: smart enough, even though at that point in like my
Speaker 1: legal studies subject, I was getting like a pluses. I
Speaker 1: was doing well, it's cute, dear, heypusses, I know why
Speaker 1: we see this, So no joke. I watched Legally Blonde
Speaker 1: was obsessed with Reese with Esperion, and after watching that movie,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I could be a lawyer.
Speaker 1: It's so fun you get to work cut out bits. No,
Speaker 1: but it was more about she could have because I
Speaker 1: was very much that girl. I loved fashion. You can
Speaker 1: tell by the person I am, what sort of person
Speaker 1: I am, and I like, yeah, I just love that
Speaker 1: she could do both. Yeah, And it was the first
Speaker 1: time that I kind of was opened up to that idea.
Speaker 1: So then at the same time, my oldest brother had
Speaker 1: a girlfriend who just got accepted into law at university
Speaker 1: and she very much like came from a very low
Speaker 1: socio economic background and you know, really had to put
Speaker 1: She would not call her off naturally smart, she had
Speaker 1: to really put in the work. And then yeah, so
Speaker 1: she got into law and was like really excited about it,
Speaker 1: and like, both those things together were literally the reason
Speaker 1: that I went into my law degree. That's amazing and
Speaker 1: maybe not yet, like not when it did it bit
Speaker 1: believed that you could, that I was worthy enough to
Speaker 1: go and do it. That's so cool. I love it.
Speaker 1: Watch yours.
Speaker 2: I'm going to start with start with Serena and Venus
Speaker 2: Williams love So have you watched King Richard?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, best movie ever, honestly, right, and I for them
Speaker 2: For those of you who haven't seen the movie or
Speaker 2: don't know, they had a very rough upbringing. They had
Speaker 2: a lot of siblings, they were living in a very
Speaker 2: low socioeconomic area in America at that point in time.
Speaker 2: There was still a lot of racism and segregation and
Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, and they were the youngest
Speaker 2: out of their family, and their dad took them to
Speaker 2: the tennis courts almost every day, rain, hail, sunshine, and
Speaker 2: they would train every single day. And this was never verified,
Speaker 2: but it is a plot that's followed in the movie
Speaker 2: that he wrote this plan for them before they were born,
Speaker 2: that he was going to make them the Michael Jordan's
Speaker 2: of tennis, and no one believed him. Everyone thought he
Speaker 2: was crazy. And you'd all know now that he actually
Speaker 2: did that because those girls worked so hard. And one
Speaker 2: thing that really stuck with me, especially from that movie,
Speaker 2: was he said we've got doctors, lawyers, and two tennis
Speaker 2: stars in this house. And I was like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: that's a line from the movie, not a line from
Speaker 2: the movie. Their siblings are doctors, one's a lawyer. Like
Speaker 2: incredibly successful family that just had very hard working parents
Speaker 2: that taught them the right values and taught them that
Speaker 2: they could do anything, and they have done everything. He
Speaker 2: got them scholarships when people said, no, one's going to
Speaker 2: pay for them to learn tennis. At that time, it
Speaker 2: was obviously a sport that people who are very wealthy
Speaker 2: could do because you.
Speaker 1: Had to pay a lot.
Speaker 2: He found someone that moved his entire family, gave them
Speaker 2: a house, food, electricity, paid for all their bills for
Speaker 2: all these years because he wouldn't let the girls compete
Speaker 2: to the point of finally letting the girls compete and
Speaker 2: them smashing it and taking over the world. But for them,
Speaker 2: like for me, that's such as.
Speaker 1: Are MoPo And now you know the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you know the movie, but I highly recommend it.
Speaker 2: It's a great watch. But that was a very eye
Speaker 2: opening thing for me because I just assumed that they
Speaker 2: were wealthy, yes, because I saw them from when I've
Speaker 2: seen them. I saw them as being wealthy, and I
Speaker 2: saw them as being super successful. And I was like,
Speaker 2: there's no way that they came from nothing, and they
Speaker 2: have literally come from nothing. And that's what I find
Speaker 2: so inspiring because its huge. They were very young when
Speaker 2: they did it too, like age was not an issue
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that and that, Yeah, can confirm that
Speaker 1: is the best movie. And I think that's a huge
Speaker 1: thing of a lot of people. When they're talking about
Speaker 1: goals or you know, wanting to do things or inspiring people,
Speaker 1: they're like yeah, but you know they came from a
Speaker 1: wealthy family or you don't understand, like I had a
Speaker 1: very rough upbringing, and it's like that can also be
Speaker 1: true while you're still, you know, achieving things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't let don't let having a rough upbringing or
Speaker 2: a rough childhood stop you from doing great things, because
Speaker 2: usually that makes the things you do even better.
Speaker 1: A great story love. Okay, So my next one, and
Speaker 1: this is like a very specific one, but there is
Speaker 1: an influencer who I used to follow called well still follow,
Speaker 1: Amanda Boucci. At this time, I had just quit my
Speaker 1: law job and I kind of didn't know what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do. But I had quit my law job
Speaker 1: and I was doing the influencing thing. But I had
Speaker 1: this like huge thing that it's like I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be an influencer. I wanted to be known as
Speaker 1: more and do more. And it's almost like I had
Speaker 1: this kind of chip on my shoulder that it's like
Speaker 1: I wanted to transform my personal brand from not just
Speaker 1: being a fitness influencer. And so a man Da Booty
Speaker 1: at that time was also a fitness influencer who had
Speaker 1: made a huge pivot into being a business entrepreneur and
Speaker 1: I can't actually remember what she did, but I think
Speaker 1: she did like courses or like that side of things,
Speaker 1: and I actually did some coaching with her. Bit you know,
Speaker 1: previous to that, she was someone in the space who
Speaker 1: was a fitness and film flat, who was a fitness
Speaker 1: influencer who pivoted and then was really established and well known,
Speaker 1: and she was also only huge podcasts like Lewis Howe
Speaker 1: and those ones, and she was well known to you know,
Speaker 1: do this huge pivot. And so at that time it
Speaker 1: was huge to me because that's what I wanted to do,
Speaker 1: and I felt very stuck because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: but everyone's just going to think of me as an influencer.
Speaker 1: They're not going to take me seriously. But then I
Speaker 1: used her as well, look she has done it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: she just did some like really cool things and completely
Speaker 1: changed her personal brand. But it worked so well, and
Speaker 1: so I again used her as a well she can
Speaker 1: do it, I can do it too. Yeah, And it
Speaker 1: was such a like huge you know, she was female,
Speaker 1: she was a couple of years older than me, Like
Speaker 1: I'm very like my expanders are usually me as a
Speaker 1: person previous years, and that's what works well for me
Speaker 1: was other people that doesn't matter too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can use well, I found even when
Speaker 2: I was trying to research expand is the one that
Speaker 2: the ones that initially came to my mind, they were
Speaker 2: all female, they were all within the sort of industry
Speaker 2: I wanted to go in. And then I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe you need to include some other stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think like your expander, it really does
Speaker 1: need to be someone you resonate with who has well,
Speaker 1: that's the whole point is because you can see yourself
Speaker 1: in them.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and so there's no point like I obviously don't
Speaker 2: want to be a tennis player and is inspiring as
Speaker 2: Venus and Serena are that more just a reality check
Speaker 2: for me when I'm feeling down about not being able
Speaker 2: to do something huge.
Speaker 1: And see that's also a great point a tear because
Speaker 1: they don't have to be as specific as I'm talking.
Speaker 1: They can just be almost like a motivational sort of one.
Speaker 1: But also I do definitely encourage you to find like
Speaker 1: very specific ones too, and that's it. Okay, who's your ex? One?
Speaker 2: Another huge one and I actually didn't know this much
Speaker 2: about her, but she bounced around before she ended up
Speaker 2: where she did. But it's Sarah Blakely And for those
Speaker 2: of you who don't know, she's the founder of Spanx.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love her.
Speaker 2: I've listened to how I built this with her. She's amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2: And so she first of all her parents one was
Speaker 2: an artist and the other one was a trial attorney.
Speaker 2: So obviously nothing crazy entrepreneurial or anything like that. She
Speaker 2: wasn't handed the reins to any business. And she has
Speaker 2: one brother who also became an artist. And she actually
Speaker 2: initially became an attorneity attorney. She became attorney an eternity.
Speaker 1: She is forever.
Speaker 2: So she became an attorney, and we'll.
Speaker 1: Just say lawyer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was becoming a lawyer, and she scored very
Speaker 2: low on an admission test. So she instead went and
Speaker 2: worked at Disney World for three months and bounced around
Speaker 2: as a stand up comedian in a few places and
Speaker 2: really just experienced life. And then she started working at
Speaker 2: a sales company and she sold fax machines daugh to
Speaker 2: door and she became promoted to the national sales trainer
Speaker 2: by the age of twenty five because she was that
Speaker 2: good at selling these Fax machines.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And from then she obviously had some body image issues
Speaker 2: and that sort of stuff, and that's where spanks was born.
Speaker 2: But she literally built this business from nothing. It says
Speaker 2: here she spent five thousand dollars in savings and researching,
Speaker 2: researching and developing the idea for spanks.
Speaker 1: And I remember a story from how I built this
Speaker 1: where she says when she got her first like kind
Speaker 1: of break with I think it was Sacks. And basically
Speaker 1: what she did is so SAS was like, yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: pick up you know, your spanks. They would you know,
Speaker 1: stock her in store. She would go to SAS and
Speaker 1: buy out the spanks herself, so it looked like she
Speaker 1: was doing really well, and so she would go to
Speaker 1: each store and buy it out, so then they wanted
Speaker 1: to place a bigger order. It's like clever. It's like fraud.
Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of people say that, but it's
Speaker 1: it's genius. It's like, say it's clever because then it creates,
Speaker 1: you know, the hype, the hype. And that was just
Speaker 1: like like one example that I thought was, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like costing her money, but it's putting it back
Speaker 1: in the business. But it was just like just the
Speaker 1: little thing she did was like really incredible in her story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And another little thing she did that I love
Speaker 2: was she sent a basket of Spanx to Oprah Winfrey's
Speaker 2: TV address with a gift card and it just also
Speaker 2: a letter explaining what she was trying to develop. And
Speaker 2: in the end Oprah ended up picking it up and
Speaker 2: finding out about the business and bringing it up on
Speaker 2: her TV show saying they were one of her favorite things,
Speaker 2: which at that time was huge.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, oh my god, do you remember you told
Speaker 1: me that story about the person who like jumped the
Speaker 1: Kardashians fence. She's amazing tell us about that. Her name is,
Speaker 1: It's Olivia something, and she's the founder of a business
Speaker 1: in Melbourne called Silk Olivia Carr. So she started a
Speaker 1: silk brand in Melbourne and she really really wanted to
Speaker 1: get the Kardashians on board. And the way she did
Speaker 1: this was she saved up, bought a ticket to La
Speaker 1: literally jumped the fence to their house and left a
Speaker 1: basket of products and like a five page letter about
Speaker 1: who she was. She was a single mom at the time,
Speaker 1: raising her daughter very young.
Speaker 3: Mum.
Speaker 2: I think she had her daughter when she was about
Speaker 2: twenty years old and she'd started this brand, and they
Speaker 2: endorsed the products, and the Kardashians order from her now
Speaker 2: and her brands built to this amazing thing. And what
Speaker 2: I really loved about that story was it was nuts,
Speaker 2: but she did it such.
Speaker 1: A risk, big risk, because they could have just got
Speaker 1: it and been like, yeah, we get a thousands of these.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and she was. I think what's important as well
Speaker 2: that Sarah did is that they both showed themselves in it,
Speaker 2: Like they didn't just send this perfectly packaged PR box.
Speaker 2: They went there themselves, they dropped it off, they wrote
Speaker 2: a letter explaining who they were and why their goal
Speaker 2: was so important to them. And then the other thing
Speaker 2: she did was she did the same thing with the
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills Hotel, so they manufactured the Beverly Hills Hotel PJ.
Speaker 2: And she did that by going to Beverly Hills Hotel,
Speaker 2: finding out who was the person in charge of that beforehand,
Speaker 2: and going to actually meet them in person and making
Speaker 2: that effort even though she was technically still a tiny business,
Speaker 2: and not letting that stop her from going for those
Speaker 2: huge clients.
Speaker 1: Love, I'm excited, what's the next one? I love this episode.
Speaker 1: Shit's getting me excited. Yeah, all right, next one. So
Speaker 1: this this was like a recent expander. So I had
Speaker 1: a lot of limiting beliefs around getting pregnant and having
Speaker 1: a baby and you know, still being successful in business
Speaker 1: and so content that I really kind of looked for
Speaker 1: and consumed when I was pregnant was like other female
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs who you know, were either pregnant or had kids.
Speaker 1: And someone who I found who I love is Jenna Kutcher.
Speaker 1: So she actually has the Goal Goal Yeah, Goal Digger podcast.
Speaker 1: She's great. She's on Instagram as Jenna Kutcher and she
Speaker 1: is this. So her backstory is she was a photographer
Speaker 1: and she would work a week. She like photograph weddings,
Speaker 1: so yeah, she used to do weddings, so she'd work
Speaker 1: all weekend edit photos during the week, and you know,
Speaker 1: it was not sustainable. So then she started an online
Speaker 1: course all about teaching I believe it was like other
Speaker 1: photographers how to market, because she got so busy that
Speaker 1: she couldn't keep up. So she had obviously like you know,
Speaker 1: found a niche or whatever. So then she helped other
Speaker 1: photographers market. So then she started doing like online courses
Speaker 1: and that's her bread and butter now is online courses,
Speaker 1: so she teaches about marketing in a very simplistic way,
Speaker 1: like she has courses about like Pinterest and just how
Speaker 1: to utilize things. And then also herself, she has a
Speaker 1: backroun of you know, having three miscarriages and she puts
Speaker 1: a lot of her personal life online, so you know,
Speaker 1: you know her and you you feel like you know her.
Speaker 1: So then she has this really beautiful story of you know,
Speaker 1: finally having a pregnancy that went to full term. And
Speaker 1: what she did was she like really prepped her team
Speaker 1: and had a whole process of she wanted to take
Speaker 1: time off, so maternity leave. And also another thing is
Speaker 1: like her husband, like she was the breadwinner and her
Speaker 1: husband the plan was to stay at home with baby
Speaker 1: and she would go back to work. So similar with
Speaker 1: me and Tim as well. So like I found her
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, Yes, she's my
Speaker 1: expander at the moment. And she has this really cool
Speaker 1: episode where she she always does like a year in
Speaker 1: review where she'll literally tell you like the number figure
Speaker 1: of like how much she earned. Wow. Yeah, Like she's
Speaker 1: very transparent, and in this episode she was going like
Speaker 1: the year of I think it was like twenty ninety
Speaker 1: and so that's the year that she had her baby.
Speaker 1: She was on maternity leave, but she had prepped her
Speaker 1: team so they could still work, still launch, but she
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't working and she got time with her baby,
Speaker 1: and then you know, she came back to work and
Speaker 1: she said, it was the year that I spent the
Speaker 1: least time in my business. And I'm pretty sure they
Speaker 1: like double their income. Oh my god. Yeah, so she's like,
Speaker 1: this is the most I've ever earned and it was
Speaker 1: like seven million, seventeen million or something ridiculous like that
Speaker 1: while having her first baby and being on maternity leave.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. It was, and it was incredible, and it
Speaker 1: made me believe. I'm like, oh my god, I have
Speaker 1: so many limiting beliefs around getting pregnant and around running
Speaker 1: my business and around having our baby. And she was
Speaker 1: just such like an expander for me during that time.
Speaker 1: And then also what I love too is she also
Speaker 1: a huge thing we did with Naked Harvest was like
Speaker 1: really prep so I could take time off with Ivy
Speaker 1: and have maternity leave and be like really ahead. And
Speaker 1: she was like a catalyst for like doing that and
Speaker 1: that's what we did, and that was like really good
Speaker 1: to you know, be really prepped. Yeah. Yeah, So she
Speaker 1: was such a huge expander for me. Of and she
Speaker 1: still is in regards to She just had her second
Speaker 1: baby and she still like the company still runs. You know,
Speaker 1: her husband is at home with the kids, and she's
Speaker 1: just such an inspiration. I love that, love love her.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to start this by reading out an
Speaker 2: Instagram post to you, and then I'm gonna say who
Speaker 2: it is. This wasn't posted by that person, It was
Speaker 2: posted by someone else. The Instagram post is by Holly Branson,
Speaker 2: which is Richard Branson's daughter, and it says ten years ago,
Speaker 2: while at a music event for up and coming artists
Speaker 2: with some friends, my then fiance grabbed me and pulled
Speaker 2: me over to a makeshift stage and said, you've got
Speaker 2: to hear this young guy sing. He's amazing. On stage
Speaker 2: was an eighteen year old guy on his own with
Speaker 2: his guitar, and Freddie was right. He blew me away.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask if he would if he would
Speaker 2: want to play at our wedding. I don't think I've
Speaker 2: ever seen Freddie so excited. We were both delighted when
Speaker 2: he agreed and said, I've never been to the Caribbean,
Speaker 2: so if you book my flat and give me somewhere
Speaker 2: to sleep, then I'm game, he said. Eight months later,
Speaker 2: as our wedding loomed, he had released his first hits
Speaker 2: and pretty much broke the internet on SBTV and appeared
Speaker 2: on Jules Holland. I don't know what that show is,
Speaker 2: Bud seem it's big. There's no way he's still going
Speaker 2: to come. Freddie I insisted he's a superstar with the
Speaker 2: heavy heart of a bride to be. I emailed saying
Speaker 2: we completely understood if he could no longer make it,
Speaker 2: and congratulated him on his much deserved huge success. His
Speaker 2: reply stunned me. A promise is a promise. I still
Speaker 2: haven't managed to get to the Caribbean. I'll be there.
Speaker 2: We genuinely couldn't believe it. Your promise made our wedding
Speaker 2: even more special. Last week, Freddie and I had yet
Speaker 2: another magical evening watching one of the most successful artists
Speaker 2: of the last decade on star Age in London performing
Speaker 2: at his tenure anniversary concert at the Shepherd's Bush Empire.
Speaker 2: It was so nostalgic for us as we watched him
Speaker 2: in the same spot ten years ago when people were
Speaker 2: only just starting to get to know him. Congratulations, you
Speaker 2: deserve every ounce of your success. You're amazing, Freddie. And
Speaker 2: I could not be happier to have been at the
Speaker 2: event on that fateful night. And that's about Ed Sheeran.
Speaker 1: Stop how crazy. And he's like literally the number one
Speaker 1: artist on Spotify. Now. I love Ed Churan, I love
Speaker 1: Edcheeran just like he's amazing. I just I'd adore him.
Speaker 1: And so what's the backstory.
Speaker 2: What's even crazier is that he was bullied all through school.
Speaker 2: So he had a speech impediment, he had his glass
Speaker 2: and red hair. He had his red hair, so people
Speaker 2: bullied him a lot, and he had a rough time
Speaker 2: in school. And he also had a surgery that went
Speaker 2: wrong and left him with a lazy eye and even
Speaker 2: worse speech problems. So the bullying just got worse and worse. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to the point that he couldn't even talk in class,
Speaker 2: Like he'd put his hand up to answer a question
Speaker 2: and nothing would come out. Speech therapy didn't work for
Speaker 2: him at all, Like he kept going and going and going.
Speaker 2: Nothing worked, Nothing happened and the thing that changed was
Speaker 2: when his dad bought him Eminem's record and Ed Sheeran
Speaker 2: loved the rapping, you know, the really really fast one,
Speaker 2: and he made sure to learn every word. And that's
Speaker 2: how he got out of having a speech impediment, is
Speaker 2: by learning Eminem's rapping because he wanted to rap as
Speaker 2: fast as Eminem.
Speaker 1: Should I buy Eminem.
Speaker 2: Next episode, guys, George's going to be daring some Eminem
Speaker 2: just rapping. But basically from there, when he was pretty
Speaker 2: much a nobody, still in school, still very young, he
Speaker 2: began writing his own music and singing, and his starter disappeared,
Speaker 2: and from there he would just start gigging. And he
Speaker 2: was like thirteen years old and he'd be like doing
Speaker 2: two shows every night, just digging wherever and whenever he could.
Speaker 2: And when he got to fourteen, he dropped out of school,
Speaker 2: took his guitar, packed some clothes and went to London
Speaker 2: and was like, I'm going to be the next big thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, fourteen years old, like grade nine, and
Speaker 1: so he went to London.
Speaker 2: He'd couch surf or sleep on the subway if or
Speaker 2: not subway but underground train if there was no one
Speaker 2: to take him, and he was just busking and started
Speaker 2: playing a lot of small venues until he until sort
Speaker 2: of social media happened in twenty ten and he started
Speaker 2: showing his videos online and started gaining a little bit
Speaker 2: of a following. But the massive catalyst was when he
Speaker 2: was I think, busking in LA and he was invited
Speaker 2: to go on a radio show and the host let
Speaker 2: him sing and it was just a local radio show,
Speaker 2: nothing big, and he got a standing ovation from people
Speaker 2: in the studio when he played. And that was Jamie
Speaker 2: Fox's radio show. And then he also slept on Jamie
Speaker 2: Fox's couch for the next few weeks until he started
Speaker 2: getting some bigger things happening.
Speaker 1: Love, Oh my god, I love you bringing out the
Speaker 1: big boys. Yes, Sharon, and I just never would have guessed. Yes.
Speaker 1: And this is like such a huge thing. As you'll notice,
Speaker 1: like with the really inspiring stories, they often had a
Speaker 1: lot of adversity. Huge Yeah, like bullied all through school? Yeah,
Speaker 1: love Okay, my next one, so wow, I'm really just
Speaker 1: making mine all about myself. But it is my podcast exactly.
Speaker 1: That's fine. But otherwise I just don't have good examples
Speaker 1: because like when do I have the time of course
Speaker 1: it's about me. So another great expander and this is
Speaker 1: honestly more as I use this. I use this a
Speaker 1: lot in the project when people are like I want
Speaker 1: to start a business, but I don't have a following
Speaker 1: like you Georgia blah blah blah. Like a huge example
Speaker 1: of that. And we've actually had her on the podcast
Speaker 1: and will link the episode in the show notes. Is
Speaker 1: Priscilla who started Bang and Body love her, which is
Speaker 1: like it's the firm and cream. It's amazing, it's in
Speaker 1: the yellow tube. You'll know what it is. It's in
Speaker 1: the yellow tube. So she has this really cool story
Speaker 1: where she's not an influencer. She never wanted to be
Speaker 1: an influencer. But the way that she like built her
Speaker 1: brand was she created in Instagram, which was just like
Speaker 1: an inspo Instagram, and she kind of it's like, you
Speaker 1: know a form of blogging. And then she really kind
Speaker 1: of went a different way than how everyone else was
Speaker 1: doing it. And then she had you know, like a
Speaker 1: vip list and like she had a marketing strategy that
Speaker 1: was just different and outside the box. Yeah, and had
Speaker 1: a huge launch and like recently she's gone in Mecca
Speaker 1: and like just like done some really cool things, and
Speaker 1: I just love it because I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of businesses right now are built off followings and Instagram.
Speaker 1: Like this morning, I was telling a tear about the
Speaker 1: Uninspired boys, the what's it called unemployed, uninspired? Unemployed? Yeah, no, inspired, uninfluenced.
Speaker 1: So I was just listening to the Shameless podcast and
Speaker 1: they were saying how those boys they started to be
Speaker 1: a company and it is the fastest growing beer company
Speaker 1: in like eight years. Insane, insane. But anyway, like that's
Speaker 1: a great example of like off a following. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I just love her story because it's a very like
Speaker 1: Instagram social media business. But it's like, no, you don't
Speaker 1: have to be an influencer exactly.
Speaker 2: You can just put the work in and grove following
Speaker 2: without starting from nothing, essentially, Yes, exactly. Well my next one.
Speaker 2: So these girls are pretty young, which is why I
Speaker 2: think I relate to them a lot as an expander
Speaker 2: because I am a little bit young too. So I
Speaker 2: have picked these girls as expanders because it's very much
Speaker 2: sort of the industry vibe that I want to go into,
Speaker 2: and they've just done incredible things. So they're called Barlow
Speaker 2: and Bear, So their actual names are Abigail Barlow and
Speaker 2: Emily Bear. Emily is twenty, I think or twenty one,
Speaker 2: and Abigail is about twenty two or twenty three. So
Speaker 2: it was very inspirational because I've always felt like, oh,
Speaker 2: and I noticed a lot of my other friends feel
Speaker 2: like I can't yet, I'm too young kind of thing.
Speaker 2: People won't take me seriously when I'm twenty something. Huge block, Yeah,
Speaker 2: massive block. And this really told me to sort of
Speaker 2: just get off my high horse and just start working
Speaker 2: because there's no point and what am I waiting for?
Speaker 2: But they watched bridgeton the first season when it first
Speaker 2: came out and was so inspired by that they wrote
Speaker 2: a musical around it. But what I love about what
Speaker 2: they did is they shared it on TikTok straight away,
Speaker 2: like it was never a oh, people are going to
Speaker 2: take our idea. Oh we're gonna get in trouble with copyright.
Speaker 2: There was just no blocks. They shared every song they wrote.
Speaker 2: They did Instagram lives during the day while they were
Speaker 2: writing songs for people, and that was still sort of
Speaker 2: during COVID lockdown ish, so they had a lot of
Speaker 2: engagement and they grew a massive following from that and
Speaker 2: people loved being included in the process, and that in
Speaker 2: itself is like a marketing strategy because it's the process
Speaker 2: as the product kind of thing. And that's how they
Speaker 2: grew this huge community and following to the point that
Speaker 2: they were able to produce this musical theater album without
Speaker 2: a record label and still get away with Like there
Speaker 2: were obviously legal discussions because it's now been branded as
Speaker 2: the unofficial Bridgeton Musical because.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, so were they Like the songs were they
Speaker 1: based off Bridgeton and they just did their own spin
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: Literally, Like some of the words are exact, so if
Speaker 2: you listen to the opening number, it starts with the
Speaker 2: exact word for word narration that Lady Whistledown gives at
Speaker 2: the beginning of the series. So it's sort of that
Speaker 2: if you took these songs and turned it into a
Speaker 2: stage show, it would be Bridgeton Season one as a
Speaker 2: stage show.
Speaker 1: You can go watch it.
Speaker 2: Wow incredible and so well written. People loved it and
Speaker 2: massive following. They grew and they produced this album and
Speaker 2: recently they've now they got nominated for a Grammy, which
Speaker 2: is huge for Best Musical Theater Album of the Year.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And they were against I think they were against like
Speaker 2: the redoing of West Side Story and they won that.
Speaker 1: Wow, I know and creditcu me.
Speaker 2: Goosebumps, yes, because next level and now there their living life.
Speaker 2: It's been just maybe over a year and a bit
Speaker 2: or almost two years, and they're now working on another
Speaker 2: musical in Punt that Dolly partners in. So they've just
Speaker 2: gone from no one knowing who they were. They just
Speaker 2: worked really really hard.
Speaker 1: And they didn't think that they couldn't, you know what
Speaker 1: I love. This is also a story coming up, like
Speaker 1: an x ME coming up for me is Kara our
Speaker 1: will Labor, who has actually been on the potty as
Speaker 1: a guest. She has this really cool story of she
Speaker 1: wanted to publish a book and she got turned down
Speaker 1: by I think it's like twenty nine publishers, but she
Speaker 1: was like, no, this needs to be a book. So
Speaker 1: she's self published and she kept self publishing books and
Speaker 1: now she's like a best selling author and it's like
Speaker 1: she didn't need someone to validate her. She just like
Speaker 1: went and did it herself and she said it was like, honestly,
Speaker 1: so much easier. And then it's funny because she then
Speaker 1: got a book published by a really high end publisher
Speaker 1: and didn't like the experience and went back to self publishing. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. Yeah. So it's like you don't have
Speaker 1: to do it in the way you're thinking.
Speaker 2: No, you can do it however you want. And I
Speaker 2: think as well, people think industries like that are super
Speaker 2: hard to get into, but just don't think too much
Speaker 2: to just do it.
Speaker 1: They are. But you can make your own seat. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's not a good quote. Yeah, you can make your
Speaker 1: put give yourself a seat at the table. Amazing. So
Speaker 1: we've just randomly brought Cooper in here because it's our
Speaker 1: new thing. I was talking to Cooper about this before
Speaker 1: we started recording, and he wanted to talk about his expanders.
Speaker 1: I love that. So Coop, me and Tear have just
Speaker 1: gone back and forward with our expanders.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, everyone, I'm back. You're welcome. One of mine
Speaker 3: is Jen Czero. She wrote the book How to Be
Speaker 3: a Badass of Making Money, and that definitely changed my
Speaker 3: life pretty much, a bit dramatic, but it kind of did.
Speaker 3: It was, yeah, all things money mindset, how to have
Speaker 3: a good relationship with money, and that changed everything for me.
Speaker 1: I feel like that book Cooper also because I'm much
Speaker 1: the same on you, but it was more expanded to
Speaker 1: like believe in yourself to go after what you want.
Speaker 1: But also, like I think a big thing for that
Speaker 1: book and me was like doing what you like can
Speaker 1: also be your job. That was huge for me in
Speaker 1: Cooper because we grew up with with you don't like
Speaker 1: your job, you just do it for money, You work
Speaker 1: eight to five and then you have fun after. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that was like huge in that book for me.
Speaker 2: So I if you don't know who this person is,
Speaker 2: you'll know her TV shows. Her name is Shonda Rhimes
Speaker 2: and she is the creator. She now owns her own
Speaker 2: production company called Shondaland, but she produced in creatively produced
Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy, bridgeton How to Get Away with Murder. She's
Speaker 2: done a lot of good, huge TV shows, And what
Speaker 2: I love about her in particular is that she just
Speaker 2: did the work.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: Her parents weren't in the industry of making movies or TV,
Speaker 2: which is typically that's how people get into it. But
Speaker 2: they were just uni professors. One of her mum was
Speaker 2: worked in admin, her dad was a lecturer. She just
Speaker 2: ticked every step that you think you'd need to kind
Speaker 2: of thing.
Speaker 1: And she went to.
Speaker 2: School, graduated school, went to some really good colleges, studied
Speaker 2: English and film studies, and then interned and then just
Speaker 2: worked her way up slowly to the point that she
Speaker 2: was able to start her own production company. And what
Speaker 2: I think and you'll love this, she wrote the screenplay
Speaker 2: for The Princess Diaries too.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she did. She did the normal work that
Speaker 2: you think, and I think people discredit that sometimes because
Speaker 2: they'll go, if I go through the normal channels, there's
Speaker 2: no way I'm going to be able to get to
Speaker 2: where I need to. I need to make this massively
Speaker 2: and just end up at the end, at the end goal.
Speaker 2: But it's not really necessary. Like you can go to UNI,
Speaker 2: you can study the business degree, you can study the
Speaker 2: film degree, and then just get the internships and slowly
Speaker 2: work your way up to your goals, but you still
Speaker 2: need to know that you can achieve them kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think so with that a tea, it's
Speaker 1: also realizing enough think has to be a certain way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I think this whole episode, it's like you don't
Speaker 1: actually have to do anything a certain way. It's exactly
Speaker 1: that's that's the gi just yeah, I hear you. What. Well,
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like we know expanders who have
Speaker 1: done it the like Shonda Rhymes and she's checked, you know,
Speaker 1: checked each box then and it's like I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any right or wrong way. And that's the beauty
Speaker 1: of It's like what feels good to you. But a
Speaker 1: huge thing is if you come from a certain background,
Speaker 1: or you have certain blocks or certain things that you
Speaker 1: think are stopping you from, you know, creating your dream life,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you there's someone out there who has the
Speaker 1: exact same but has created the dream life. Yeah, or worse. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's like what Yeah, I get what you mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they've come from a worse situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Okay, Cooper, you have your last one that
Speaker 1: you wanted to tell us about, and this is a
Speaker 1: good one.
Speaker 3: Okay. My second one is his name is Aiden. I
Speaker 3: met him through a naked harvest. Whenever I've had problems
Speaker 3: with packaging or logistics or even just personal problems as well,
Speaker 3: I've always turned to him as well as he's turned
Speaker 3: to me as well, and he's always helped me through.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's just been a really good mate and plus he's
Speaker 3: done it, so he's experienced a lot of it. He's
Speaker 3: a little bit older and he's into his business a
Speaker 3: lot further along. But yeah, he's helped me a lot
Speaker 3: throughout everything. And yeah, some sort of challenge that I
Speaker 3: just think it's impossible. I would give him a call
Speaker 3: and he'd be like, what do you mean, of course
Speaker 3: you can do it, just do it, and then it'd
Speaker 3: be a lot more conversation because he's a massive talker,
Speaker 3: but I can tell your ear off. But yeah, he
Speaker 3: has really helped me.
Speaker 1: So that's like such a good example because I feel
Speaker 1: like menitia have touched on people around you who can
Speaker 1: be expanders except my first one with my brother's girlfriend,
Speaker 1: but that's like none of mine. But I think that's
Speaker 1: a big thing too. You can have both. You can
Speaker 1: have you know, friends who are kind of doing the
Speaker 1: thing you want to do, who are like further ahead,
Speaker 1: or if you don't have the you know, the luxury
Speaker 1: of having those sorts of relationships of finding it in
Speaker 1: the books and the podcasts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and do you reckon Like I don't know if
Speaker 2: we'd call this an expand up, but just sort of
Speaker 2: friends that remove those barriers for you. And your head
Speaker 2: kind of thing, because I feel like the purpose of
Speaker 2: an expander is that when you have those blocks and
Speaker 2: all you see is challenges to doing something that removes
Speaker 2: that for you. Would you say friends who when you
Speaker 2: chat to them, even though they haven't done it, they go,
Speaker 2: that's not an issue, like why are you stressing about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, or even you know, just like friends
Speaker 1: who are like super encouraging of your idea.
Speaker 3: If they are friends, they would know you and they
Speaker 3: would know your problems as well, so they would know
Speaker 3: a lot more deeper than other people because it's a
Speaker 3: lot more broad and bigger people and the new stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is the reason why I brought Cooper in.
Speaker 1: I knew there was something.
Speaker 3: Yes, my last one is Georgia, my sister. Yes, actually
Speaker 3: it's really weird because she's my younger sister. But yeah,
Speaker 3: Georgia was on her journey with this self development journey
Speaker 3: a lot sooner than me, and yeah, so she brought
Speaker 3: me along on her journey as well and has opened
Speaker 3: my eyes up to a lot of things. And yeah,
Speaker 3: to not worry, to just dream bigger.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: Pretty much.
Speaker 1: And well, I think a big thing is like a
Speaker 1: Kooper just did not have a lot of belief in himself.
Speaker 1: But you've got to we've got to pet them up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's just coming here.
Speaker 3: System. You have to have a good support system, and
Speaker 3: that's like the key with anything personal or business related.
Speaker 1: I literally just brought it in so he could tell you, guys,
Speaker 1: all right, you can leave now you've done it.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: But that's also like if you have, you know, personal
Speaker 1: relationships that support you and make you feel good, like
Speaker 1: make sure you keep those people close, and people who
Speaker 1: maybe aren't that supportive, I wouldn't be telling them your ideas.
Speaker 3: When you're starting off something like, Yeah, you've got to
Speaker 3: be very careful who you share your ideas with because
Speaker 3: they just can't comprehend it and they're going to bring
Speaker 3: you down.
Speaker 1: So I think also when you're starting something, you probably
Speaker 1: already have a lot of doubt in yourself. The last
Speaker 1: thing you need is someone to put like one percent
Speaker 1: out in your head even more. Yeah, So that's like
Speaker 1: a huge thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's even if you've got doubt,
Speaker 3: it's you've got this energy. When you're starting something, you
Speaker 3: remember like like you're this so much energy and you
Speaker 3: think it's the best thing ever. And then you're so
Speaker 3: excited and you had to tell someone and then they
Speaker 3: shut it down that it just and then that's it
Speaker 3: that wrecks you. But yeah, so choosual.
Speaker 2: Any tips on how to if say, you haven't started
Speaker 2: a business or you haven't had a huge dream before
Speaker 2: and you do want to share it with people around you,
Speaker 2: how do you know who are the right people to
Speaker 2: share it with you?
Speaker 3: To make your mistakes?
Speaker 1: You test it, well, I think it's stick skin. Well,
Speaker 1: my honestly, my thing that I do is I just
Speaker 1: don't tell anyone. I'm like hugely secretive because if there's
Speaker 1: a tiny bit of doubt that I see in other people,
Speaker 1: I like collapse like I can't. So I make it
Speaker 1: a huge thing that I'm quite secretive, and that is
Speaker 1: to protect me because I know what happens, Yeah, once
Speaker 1: doubt seeps in, And so if you ask someone similar
Speaker 1: to me, I just would be keeping it to yourself
Speaker 1: unless you know that person is going to be supportive.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But a big thing I talk about is like it's
Speaker 1: hard enough getting yourself on board to believe it. You
Speaker 1: don't need to then have to go and spend energy
Speaker 1: on getting other people to believe it. All right, guys, Sears, welcome, thanksgiver,
Speaker 1: Like we love his perspective because it's always so different
Speaker 1: to us. It's so different. All right, guys, I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed this episode. I hope you've got a dose
Speaker 1: of inspiration and like I said, homework. If you have
Speaker 1: doubt in your dreams or just your next step, go
Speaker 1: and seek how people who have done it. Consume their content,
Speaker 1: be around them, even if it's like an audiobook or
Speaker 1: a podcast or Instagram. You know, follow those people, put
Speaker 1: them on your favorites list on Instagram, so you're just
Speaker 1: consuming their content because that is such a huge catalyst
Speaker 1: to then, you know, following your things. Such a great
Speaker 1: manifestation hack.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for listening to another episode
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