WEBVTT - I only usually share this hack in my manifestation course… ✨

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<v Speaker 1>The Rising Conker Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of the

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<v Speaker 1>land which this episode is being recorded, the yugen Bear region.

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<v Speaker 1>We further acknowledge country throughout Australia and their connections to land,

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<v Speaker 1>sea and community. We pay our respect to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal

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<v Speaker 1>and terrestrid Islander peoples. Today. Hello and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This is the podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things. Hello and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the Verizon Ponker Podcast. It is your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Georgie Stephenson, lawyer turned entrepreneur, mum, business owner, all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another Tuesday episode. Today we are chatting expanders.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know what that is, hold tight. We

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<v Speaker 1>get right into it and I have a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of examples. You're going to feel so inspired after this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into it, a little update on

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<v Speaker 1>my week. Honestly, not too much to update. Had a

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<v Speaker 1>very chill weekend. Wanted to spend a lot of quality

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<v Speaker 1>time with Ivy and Tim. I just feel like we've

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<v Speaker 1>had a whole bunch of weekends where we've had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on like friends' birthdays and this and that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I wanted to spend a weekend at home.

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<v Speaker 1>I even got a massage. It was lovely. I was

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<v Speaker 1>also quite exhausted because I had a huge work week,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously in the NH warehouse recording this. Pody and I

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<v Speaker 1>also had a very exciting photo shoot. I did some

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<v Speaker 1>stories a little sneak peek. I can't tell you exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what that project is actually, I think I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you next week. Oh my god, I'm so excited. So

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you guys about that next week. But it

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<v Speaker 1>went really well. It was just really funny because before

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<v Speaker 1>I got there, I was actually chatting to my EA Ellie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was so nervous. And it's like I've done

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<v Speaker 1>photo shoots a lot, like I've been there, done that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not something new, and I was I was so nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had all these kind of thoughts running through

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<v Speaker 1>my head of just like, you know, who am I

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<v Speaker 1>to do this? You know, I'm six months postpartum, like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, worried about what I was gonna look like.

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<v Speaker 1>And then like, you know, all these people are here

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and I just I don't know. I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a bit of like a moment where I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like encompassed in Yeah, who am I to

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<v Speaker 1>do this? In postera syndrome? And I really had to

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<v Speaker 1>like put on a good song, pet myself up and

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<v Speaker 1>be like I'm an ordinary person doing extraor ordinary things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had to give myself that pep talk. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to touch on it today because I think,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how many times you get out of your

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<v Speaker 1>comfort zone, it's still the same feeling of just being

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<v Speaker 1>so uncomfortable. But like I say to you guys all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, that is where the magic happens. That is

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<v Speaker 1>where the good shit happens. And I know that getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of my comfort zone just leads to so many

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<v Speaker 1>good things. So put my hype music on, I got

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<v Speaker 1>on the zone, and I just had the best day.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm body excited. I hopefully get to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you guys about that. But guys, this episode is a goodie.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you love it. Let's get straight into it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, guys, today we are chatting expanders. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a term I coined, didn't coin this term, but I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I haven't really heard anyone talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I hadn't heard anyone talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>when you brought it up. But I knew the concept

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<v Speaker 2>but not the term expander. But then in the past

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<v Speaker 2>week I've seen it a few places.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so weird. I think the actual words expander is

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<v Speaker 1>something I made up. Yeah, but then the actually what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about is like not a common thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, it's not the idea. Yeah exactly, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>go where I coined it.

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<v Speaker 2>When your Google expanded, it comes up with braces. So really,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I didn't even know this term.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because I just go off simple words as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the project I would have been like, use

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<v Speaker 1>this as your expander, and then I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>Expanders's that's how the term came to me, if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. So guys, today we are chatting expanders and

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what that term means. So basically

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<v Speaker 1>this has come about from my teachings in my seven

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<v Speaker 1>week manifesting and self development cause the project. So in

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<v Speaker 1>the project, I teach you my manifesting formula, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we go through everything. This is not a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the formula. This is like a manifestation hack that I

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<v Speaker 1>will teach people as a way of basically how to

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<v Speaker 1>get around a block they have with what they want

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<v Speaker 1>to manifest. So, you know, in the course, a big

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<v Speaker 1>thing I say to them is like, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>dream big and you have to listen to your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>So I call them like heart desires, Like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get it wrong if it's on your heart and you're

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<v Speaker 1>following your intuition, even if it doesn't make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sense, but it was put on your heart for reason.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so people come back to me and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, I on my heart, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>this huge dream, but it doesn't make sense, and also

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<v Speaker 1>like who am I to do this? But what I

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<v Speaker 1>would then say to them is, well, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>find your expander. So for example, they might be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I, let's just use me as an example.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I've created two seven figure companies before

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<v Speaker 1>I was thirty. That was my big goal of wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to build a business, not just be an influencer, but

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<v Speaker 1>also this huge thing of I wanted my businesses to

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<v Speaker 1>be purposeful. I wanted to have you know, fun every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I've got various goals anyway, So lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people will be like, you know, my goals are similar,

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<v Speaker 1>but how can I do what you've done? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a following, or I don't have a brother, or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a Cooper, I don't have a Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>And they will often get hung up on the Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know you can do that because of this

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<v Speaker 1>and that, and then so my response to them is, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a fact about me. But also I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>you I could find someone who has done exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>I've done without a following, without a Cooper, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. So previously, when I have a huge goal,

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<v Speaker 1>and I almost because to manifest a goal, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to believe you can do it. Otherwise there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to attract this thing in because that's just

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<v Speaker 1>not like how the universe works, because like attracts like. So,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't believe something's going to happen, look it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. So what I kind of explain to people

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<v Speaker 1>is like, you need to believe it, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe it, a great way to start believing it

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<v Speaker 1>is like surrounding yourself with people who have done the

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<v Speaker 1>things you want to do. And you know, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing of you know, the five people you surround yourself with.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that is like you're the average of the five

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<v Speaker 2>per people you spend the most amount of time with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and so many people like holy shit, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they don't spend their time with the right people.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also a big thing comes about of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>well how do I find people you know, who I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hang around with? And my example is always

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<v Speaker 1>will go buy their books, listen to their podcast, research them.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be best friends. But for example,

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<v Speaker 1>what I used to do on the bus when I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to my law job is I used to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. So technically every single day I'm surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>myself with people who like I wanted to be. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just before and after work. It wasn't during work,

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<v Speaker 1>if that means.

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<v Speaker 2>And even if they weren't physically there, like their influence

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<v Speaker 2>was on you for X amount of hours of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Huge. So to the point, expanders is basically a

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<v Speaker 1>manifestation hack, so you can believe in your goal and

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<v Speaker 1>your manifestation. So we thought it would be a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of fun today for me and a tea to come

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys with some stories, well they're not stories

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<v Speaker 1>because feral facts. Some a minor stories though, because a

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<v Speaker 1>big thing too is expanders don't always have to be people.

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<v Speaker 1>They can be movies, they can be books. Basically they

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<v Speaker 1>are a person or a thing that expands you to

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<v Speaker 1>believe in yourself. I didn't think about it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt people. No, Yeah, And that's why I truly

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<v Speaker 1>believe in the concept of like who the five people

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<v Speaker 1>surround your the average of the five people you surround

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<v Speaker 1>yourself with, But not so much that because to be

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<v Speaker 1>completely honest, like a lot of my five people, like

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<v Speaker 1>who knows that amount of people? No, But like my

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<v Speaker 1>close friends, group and family, isn't necessarily people who are

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same things to me or people I inspire

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<v Speaker 1>to be. They're like just friends I want to surround

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<v Speaker 1>myself with. And then people I inspire to be is

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<v Speaker 1>books and podcasts and movies for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And it's like it just comes down to like

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<v Speaker 2>how important it is to choose the content you consume

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<v Speaker 2>carefully because it has an impact on.

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<v Speaker 1>You huge And I think also once it's so it's

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<v Speaker 1>the premise of the four minute mile. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 1>about this? Stia, I haven't. Oh my god, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna butcher this. I do it every time I saw

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it on this podcast. Actually I said on

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Dyllon's podcast, and I butchered it. So basically, the

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<v Speaker 1>premise of the four minute mile is I believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like in America or something in the seventies, no

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<v Speaker 1>one could run a mile in under four minutes, like

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<v Speaker 1>just no one could do it. And then so what

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<v Speaker 1>happened is one guy did it, and then no joke,

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<v Speaker 1>after the world found out this one guy did it,

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<v Speaker 1>like hundreds of people started doing it. So like that's

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<v Speaker 1>such like a feel a cool thing of they thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was impossible, and then one person did it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then everyone was like, oh easy, I can do it too,

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<v Speaker 1>and then people started, like hundreds of people started breaking

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<v Speaker 1>this record, and that's such amazing. Isn't that such a

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<v Speaker 1>testament to you know what we're talking about? So literally,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, if you have big goals, or even not

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<v Speaker 1>big goals, if you've just got goals and you're struggling

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<v Speaker 1>to believe in yourself, a huge thing that I have

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<v Speaker 1>done is surround myself with inspiring people or inspiring content

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<v Speaker 1>to then make me believe it, and then you you

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<v Speaker 1>bet I've gone and done it. That's awesome. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>got about four or five stories. A Tear has got some.

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<v Speaker 1>My stories are more like in my personal journey, and

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<v Speaker 1>then A Tear has got some great just like huge one,

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<v Speaker 1>huge one. She told me about them. I was like, what.

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<v Speaker 1>So we thought it would be a fun episode to

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<v Speaker 1>get your brains thinking about expanders. Tell you some inspiring stories,

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<v Speaker 1>and then your homework for this week is, after this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>think of what your huge goal is, think of what

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<v Speaker 1>the block is, and then go and find either a

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<v Speaker 1>person or a piece of content that tells you that

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<v Speaker 1>you can achieve that goal. I love it, love Okay. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this is the whole concept of our new

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<v Speaker 1>mancha that you know, we're just ordinary people doing extraordinary things. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so what you're about to hear is just ordinary people

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<v Speaker 1>doing extraordinary things. And guys, this is such a huge

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<v Speaker 1>thing in manifesting too. This is such like a great

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<v Speaker 1>manifesting hack and also just a very quick plug. I've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of teas this in previous episodes, but the project

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<v Speaker 1>is coming back for one Yes, so the project is

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<v Speaker 1>coming back for one live round this year. I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>just like don't have a lot of time this year

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<v Speaker 1>between exciting projects and IVY, but I did promise you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we are excited it's coming back. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it's going to be a July start date, but

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<v Speaker 1>more to come. And yeah, I don't know. I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>that we have gone back into the podcast and I've

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about manifesting, like I so to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I live for this shit. And then oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the transformations that come out of the project

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<v Speaker 1>is just it lights me out. So anyway, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. I'm going to start sounds good and this

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<v Speaker 1>is like, this is going to be funny. But these

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<v Speaker 1>were my expanders when I was in high school, when

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know expanders were a thing or what was

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<v Speaker 1>even happening, or I didn't realize I was manifesting things.

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<v Speaker 1>So these were my expanders that made me believe I

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<v Speaker 1>could do my law degree. So I went to a

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<v Speaker 1>public school. No one in my family has gone to university.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My three older brothers were plumbers, my dad was a palmer.

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<v Speaker 1>No one I really knew was going to university. Wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of my friend group, I don't think anyone went.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I had this dream that I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do something like prestigious, Like I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be like a lawyer or doctor or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something like that that like my parents could be proud

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<v Speaker 1>of me for doing it. It was very much that

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<v Speaker 1>vibe and I had done legal studies at school and

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed it, but I had this weird block about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I can't be a lawyer. Lawyers are boring.

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<v Speaker 1>Lawyers are boring, and also just didn't think I was

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<v Speaker 1>smart enough, even though at that point in like my

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<v Speaker 1>legal studies subject, I was getting like a pluses. I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing well, it's cute, dear, heypusses, I know why

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<v Speaker 1>we see this, So no joke. I watched Legally Blonde

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<v Speaker 1>was obsessed with Reese with Esperion, and after watching that movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, I could be a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so fun you get to work cut out bits. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was more about she could have because I

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<v Speaker 1>was very much that girl. I loved fashion. You can

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<v Speaker 1>tell by the person I am, what sort of person

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<v Speaker 1>I am, and I like, yeah, I just love that

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<v Speaker 1>she could do both. Yeah, And it was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time that I kind of was opened up to that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So then at the same time, my oldest brother had

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<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend who just got accepted into law at university

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<v Speaker 1>and she very much like came from a very low

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<v Speaker 1>socio economic background and you know, really had to put

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<v Speaker 1>She would not call her off naturally smart, she had

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<v Speaker 1>to really put in the work. And then yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>she got into law and was like really excited about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, both those things together were literally the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that I went into my law degree. That's amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not yet, like not when it did it bit

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<v Speaker 1>believed that you could, that I was worthy enough to

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<v Speaker 1>go and do it. That's so cool. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch yours.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to start with start with Serena and Venus

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<v Speaker 2>Williams love So have you watched King Richard?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, best movie ever, honestly, right, and I for them

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you who haven't seen the movie or

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, they had a very rough upbringing. They had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of siblings, they were living in a very

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<v Speaker 2>low socioeconomic area in America at that point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>There was still a lot of racism and segregation and

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<v Speaker 2>all that sort of stuff, and they were the youngest

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<v Speaker 2>out of their family, and their dad took them to

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<v Speaker 2>the tennis courts almost every day, rain, hail, sunshine, and

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<v Speaker 2>they would train every single day. And this was never verified,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is a plot that's followed in the movie

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<v Speaker 2>that he wrote this plan for them before they were born,

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<v Speaker 2>that he was going to make them the Michael Jordan's

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<v Speaker 2>of tennis, and no one believed him. Everyone thought he

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<v Speaker 2>was crazy. And you'd all know now that he actually

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<v Speaker 2>did that because those girls worked so hard. And one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that really stuck with me, especially from that movie,

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<v Speaker 2>was he said we've got doctors, lawyers, and two tennis

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<v Speaker 2>stars in this house. And I was like, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a line from the movie, not a line from

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<v Speaker 2>the movie. Their siblings are doctors, one's a lawyer. Like

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly successful family that just had very hard working parents

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<v Speaker 2>that taught them the right values and taught them that

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<v Speaker 2>they could do anything, and they have done everything. He

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<v Speaker 2>got them scholarships when people said, no, one's going to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for them to learn tennis. At that time, it

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously a sport that people who are very wealthy

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<v Speaker 2>could do because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Had to pay a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>He found someone that moved his entire family, gave them

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<v Speaker 2>a house, food, electricity, paid for all their bills for

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<v Speaker 2>all these years because he wouldn't let the girls compete

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<v Speaker 2>to the point of finally letting the girls compete and

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<v Speaker 2>them smashing it and taking over the world. But for them,

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<v Speaker 2>like for me, that's such as.

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<v Speaker 1>Are MoPo And now you know the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now you know the movie, but I highly recommend it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great watch. But that was a very eye

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<v Speaker 2>opening thing for me because I just assumed that they

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<v Speaker 2>were wealthy, yes, because I saw them from when I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen them. I saw them as being wealthy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw them as being super successful. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way that they came from nothing, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have literally come from nothing. And that's what I find

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<v Speaker 2>so inspiring because its huge. They were very young when

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<v Speaker 2>they did it too, like age was not an issue

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that and that, Yeah, can confirm that

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<v Speaker 1>is the best movie. And I think that's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>thing of a lot of people. When they're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>goals or you know, wanting to do things or inspiring people,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like yeah, but you know they came from a

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy family or you don't understand, like I had a

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<v Speaker 1>very rough upbringing, and it's like that can also be

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<v Speaker 1>true while you're still, you know, achieving things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't let don't let having a rough upbringing or

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<v Speaker 2>a rough childhood stop you from doing great things, because

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<v Speaker 2>usually that makes the things you do even better.

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<v Speaker 1>A great story love. Okay, So my next one, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a very specific one, but there is

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<v Speaker 1>an influencer who I used to follow called well still follow,

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda Boucci. At this time, I had just quit my

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<v Speaker 1>law job and I kind of didn't know what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do. But I had quit my law job

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<v Speaker 1>and I was doing the influencing thing. But I had

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<v Speaker 1>this like huge thing that it's like I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be an influencer. I wanted to be known as

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<v Speaker 1>more and do more. And it's almost like I had

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of chip on my shoulder that it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to transform my personal brand from not just

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<v Speaker 1>being a fitness influencer. And so a man Da Booty

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<v Speaker 1>at that time was also a fitness influencer who had

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<v Speaker 1>made a huge pivot into being a business entrepreneur and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't actually remember what she did, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>she did like courses or like that side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually did some coaching with her. Bit you know,

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<v Speaker 1>previous to that, she was someone in the space who

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<v Speaker 1>was a fitness and film flat, who was a fitness

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<v Speaker 1>influencer who pivoted and then was really established and well known,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was also only huge podcasts like Lewis Howe

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<v Speaker 1>and those ones, and she was well known to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do this huge pivot. And so at that time it

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<v Speaker 1>was huge to me because that's what I wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt very stuck because I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but everyone's just going to think of me as an influencer.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to take me seriously. But then I

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<v Speaker 1>used her as well, look she has done it, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she just did some like really cool things and completely

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<v Speaker 1>changed her personal brand. But it worked so well, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I again used her as a well she can

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<v Speaker 1>do it, I can do it too. Yeah, And it

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<v Speaker 1>was such a like huge you know, she was female,

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<v Speaker 1>she was a couple of years older than me, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very like my expanders are usually me as a

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<v Speaker 1>person previous years, and that's what works well for me

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<v Speaker 1>was other people that doesn't matter too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you can use well, I found even when

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to research expand is the one that

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that initially came to my mind, they were

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<v Speaker 2>all female, they were all within the sort of industry

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go in. And then I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you need to include some other stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I think like your expander, it really does

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<v Speaker 1>need to be someone you resonate with who has well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the whole point is because you can see yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in them.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and so there's no point like I obviously don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a tennis player and is inspiring as

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<v Speaker 2>Venus and Serena are that more just a reality check

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<v Speaker 2>for me when I'm feeling down about not being able

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<v Speaker 2>to do something huge.

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<v Speaker 1>And see that's also a great point a tear because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have to be as specific as I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 1>They can just be almost like a motivational sort of one.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I do definitely encourage you to find like

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<v Speaker 1>very specific ones too, and that's it. Okay, who's your ex? One?

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<v Speaker 2>Another huge one and I actually didn't know this much

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<v Speaker 2>about her, but she bounced around before she ended up

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<v Speaker 2>where she did. But it's Sarah Blakely And for those

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<v Speaker 2>of you who don't know, she's the founder of Spanx.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I love her.

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<v Speaker 2>I've listened to how I built this with her. She's amazing, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she first of all her parents one was

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<v Speaker 2>an artist and the other one was a trial attorney.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously nothing crazy entrepreneurial or anything like that. She

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't handed the reins to any business. And she has

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<v Speaker 2>one brother who also became an artist. And she actually

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<v Speaker 2>initially became an attorneity attorney. She became attorney an eternity.

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<v Speaker 1>She is forever.

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<v Speaker 2>So she became an attorney, and we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Just say lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was becoming a lawyer, and she scored very

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<v Speaker 2>low on an admission test. So she instead went and

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<v Speaker 2>worked at Disney World for three months and bounced around

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<v Speaker 2>as a stand up comedian in a few places and

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<v Speaker 2>really just experienced life. And then she started working at

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<v Speaker 2>a sales company and she sold fax machines daugh to

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<v Speaker 2>door and she became promoted to the national sales trainer

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<v Speaker 2>by the age of twenty five because she was that

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<v Speaker 2>good at selling these Fax machines.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And from then she obviously had some body image issues

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<v Speaker 2>and that sort of stuff, and that's where spanks was born.

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<v Speaker 2>But she literally built this business from nothing. It says

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<v Speaker 2>here she spent five thousand dollars in savings and researching,

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<v Speaker 2>researching and developing the idea for spanks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember a story from how I built this

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<v Speaker 1>where she says when she got her first like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of break with I think it was Sacks. And basically

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<v Speaker 1>what she did is so SAS was like, yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>pick up you know, your spanks. They would you know,

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>stock her in store. She would go to SAS and

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>buy out the spanks herself, so it looked like she

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<v Speaker 1>was doing really well, and so she would go to

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<v Speaker 1>each store and buy it out, so then they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to place a bigger order. It's like clever. It's like fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, a lot of people say that, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's genius. It's like, say it's clever because then it creates,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the hype, the hype. And that was just

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<v Speaker 1>like like one example that I thought was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like costing her money, but it's putting it back

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<v Speaker 1>in the business. But it was just like just the

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<v Speaker 1>little thing she did was like really incredible in her story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And another little thing she did that I love

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 2>was she sent a basket of Spanx to Oprah Winfrey's

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<v Speaker 2>TV address with a gift card and it just also

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<v Speaker 2>a letter explaining what she was trying to develop. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the end Oprah ended up picking it up and

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<v Speaker 2>finding out about the business and bringing it up on

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<v Speaker 2>her TV show saying they were one of her favorite things,

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<v Speaker 2>which at that time was huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, oh my god, do you remember you told

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<v Speaker 1>me that story about the person who like jumped the

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashians fence. She's amazing tell us about that. Her name is,

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<v Speaker 1>It's Olivia something, and she's the founder of a business

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<v Speaker 1>in Melbourne called Silk Olivia Carr. So she started a

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<v Speaker 1>silk brand in Melbourne and she really really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get the Kardashians on board. And the way she did

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<v Speaker 1>this was she saved up, bought a ticket to La

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<v Speaker 1>literally jumped the fence to their house and left a

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<v Speaker 1>basket of products and like a five page letter about

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<v Speaker 1>who she was. She was a single mom at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>raising her daughter very young.

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<v Speaker 3>Mum.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she had her daughter when she was about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years old and she'd started this brand, and they

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>endorsed the products, and the Kardashians order from her now

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.959
<v Speaker 2>and her brands built to this amazing thing. And what

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<v Speaker 2>I really loved about that story was it was nuts,

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>but she did it such.

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<v Speaker 1>A risk, big risk, because they could have just got

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it and been like, yeah, we get a thousands of these.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and she was. I think what's important as well

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 2>that Sarah did is that they both showed themselves in it,

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Like they didn't just send this perfectly packaged PR box.

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.880
<v Speaker 2>They went there themselves, they dropped it off, they wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a letter explaining who they were and why their goal

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<v Speaker 2>was so important to them. And then the other thing

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 2>she did was she did the same thing with the

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills Hotel, so they manufactured the Beverly Hills Hotel PJ.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 2>And she did that by going to Beverly Hills Hotel,

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 2>finding out who was the person in charge of that beforehand,

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>and going to actually meet them in person and making

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<v Speaker 2>that effort even though she was technically still a tiny business,

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<v Speaker 2>and not letting that stop her from going for those

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 2>huge clients.

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<v Speaker 1>Love, I'm excited, what's the next one? I love this episode.

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Shit's getting me excited. Yeah, all right, next one. So

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<v Speaker 1>this this was like a recent expander. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of limiting beliefs around getting pregnant and having

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a baby and you know, still being successful in business

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and so content that I really kind of looked for

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and consumed when I was pregnant was like other female

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurs who you know, were either pregnant or had kids.

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>And someone who I found who I love is Jenna Kutcher.

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So she actually has the Goal Goal Yeah, Goal Digger podcast.

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>She's great. She's on Instagram as Jenna Kutcher and she

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>is this. So her backstory is she was a photographer

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and she would work a week. She like photograph weddings,

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, she used to do weddings, so she'd work

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>all weekend edit photos during the week, and you know,

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it was not sustainable. So then she started an online

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>course all about teaching I believe it was like other

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 1>photographers how to market, because she got so busy that

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 1>she couldn't keep up. So she had obviously like you know,

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>found a niche or whatever. So then she helped other

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>photographers market. So then she started doing like online courses

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's her bread and butter now is online courses,

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>so she teaches about marketing in a very simplistic way,

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>like she has courses about like Pinterest and just how

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to utilize things. And then also herself, she has a

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>backroun of you know, having three miscarriages and she puts

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of her personal life online, so you know,

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you know her and you you feel like you know her.

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>So then she has this really beautiful story of you know,

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>finally having a pregnancy that went to full term. And

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>what she did was she like really prepped her team

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>and had a whole process of she wanted to take

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>time off, so maternity leave. And also another thing is

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>like her husband, like she was the breadwinner and her

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>husband the plan was to stay at home with baby

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and she would go back to work. So similar with

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>me and Tim as well. So like I found her

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, Yes, she's my

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>expander at the moment. And she has this really cool

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>episode where she she always does like a year in

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.959
<v Speaker 1>review where she'll literally tell you like the number figure

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of like how much she earned. Wow. Yeah, Like she's

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.719
<v Speaker 1>very transparent, and in this episode she was going like

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<v Speaker 1>the year of I think it was like twenty ninety

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and so that's the year that she had her baby.

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>She was on maternity leave, but she had prepped her

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>team so they could still work, still launch, but she

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, wasn't working and she got time with her baby,

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, she came back to work and

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>she said, it was the year that I spent the

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>least time in my business. And I'm pretty sure they

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like double their income. Oh my god. Yeah, so she's like,

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>this is the most I've ever earned and it was

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>like seven million, seventeen million or something ridiculous like that

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>while having her first baby and being on maternity leave.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible. It was, and it was incredible, and it

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>made me believe. I'm like, oh my god, I have

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>so many limiting beliefs around getting pregnant and around running

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>my business and around having our baby. And she was

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>just such like an expander for me during that time.

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.959
<v Speaker 1>And then also what I love too is she also

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a huge thing we did with Naked Harvest was like

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<v Speaker 1>really prep so I could take time off with Ivy

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and have maternity leave and be like really ahead. And

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>she was like a catalyst for like doing that and

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what we did, and that was like really good

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>to you know, be really prepped. Yeah. Yeah, So she

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>was such a huge expander for me. Of and she

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>still is in regards to She just had her second

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>baby and she still like the company still runs. You know,

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>her husband is at home with the kids, and she's

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>just such an inspiration. I love that, love love her.

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to start this by reading out an

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Instagram post to you, and then I'm gonna say who

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 2>it is. This wasn't posted by that person, It was

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 2>posted by someone else. The Instagram post is by Holly Branson,

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>which is Richard Branson's daughter, and it says ten years ago,

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 2>while at a music event for up and coming artists

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<v Speaker 2>with some friends, my then fiance grabbed me and pulled

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<v Speaker 2>me over to a makeshift stage and said, you've got

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to hear this young guy sing. He's amazing. On stage

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 2>was an eighteen year old guy on his own with

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 2>his guitar, and Freddie was right. He blew me away.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask if he would if he would

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 2>want to play at our wedding. I don't think I've

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 2>ever seen Freddie so excited. We were both delighted when

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<v Speaker 2>he agreed and said, I've never been to the Caribbean,

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<v Speaker 2>so if you book my flat and give me somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep, then I'm game, he said. Eight months later,

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<v Speaker 2>as our wedding loomed, he had released his first hits

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and pretty much broke the internet on SBTV and appeared

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>on Jules Holland. I don't know what that show is,

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Bud seem it's big. There's no way he's still going

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 2>to come. Freddie I insisted he's a superstar with the

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>heavy heart of a bride to be. I emailed saying

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>we completely understood if he could no longer make it,

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and congratulated him on his much deserved huge success. His

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>reply stunned me. A promise is a promise. I still

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 2>haven't managed to get to the Caribbean. I'll be there.

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 2>We genuinely couldn't believe it. Your promise made our wedding

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>even more special. Last week, Freddie and I had yet

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<v Speaker 2>another magical evening watching one of the most successful artists

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 2>of the last decade on star Age in London performing

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 2>at his tenure anniversary concert at the Shepherd's Bush Empire.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.719
<v Speaker 2>It was so nostalgic for us as we watched him

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>in the same spot ten years ago when people were

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 2>only just starting to get to know him. Congratulations, you

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>deserve every ounce of your success. You're amazing, Freddie. And

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I could not be happier to have been at the

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>event on that fateful night. And that's about Ed Sheeran.

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Stop how crazy. And he's like literally the number one

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>artist on Spotify. Now. I love Ed Churan, I love

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Edcheeran just like he's amazing. I just I'd adore him.

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>And so what's the backstory.

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>What's even crazier is that he was bullied all through school.

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>So he had a speech impediment, he had his glass

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>and red hair. He had his red hair, so people

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>bullied him a lot, and he had a rough time

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 2>in school. And he also had a surgery that went

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 2>wrong and left him with a lazy eye and even

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>worse speech problems. So the bullying just got worse and worse. Yeah,

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>to the point that he couldn't even talk in class,

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Like he'd put his hand up to answer a question

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>and nothing would come out. Speech therapy didn't work for

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 2>him at all, Like he kept going and going and going.

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Nothing worked, Nothing happened and the thing that changed was

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 2>when his dad bought him Eminem's record and Ed Sheeran

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>loved the rapping, you know, the really really fast one,

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 2>and he made sure to learn every word. And that's

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 2>how he got out of having a speech impediment, is

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>by learning Eminem's rapping because he wanted to rap as

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 2>fast as Eminem.

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Should I buy Eminem.

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Next episode, guys, George's going to be daring some Eminem

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 2>just rapping. But basically from there, when he was pretty

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>much a nobody, still in school, still very young, he

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>began writing his own music and singing, and his starter disappeared,

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and from there he would just start gigging. And he

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:58.959
<v Speaker 2>was like thirteen years old and he'd be like doing

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>two shows every night, just digging wherever and whenever he could.

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 2>And when he got to fourteen, he dropped out of school,

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 2>took his guitar, packed some clothes and went to London

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.399
<v Speaker 2>and was like, I'm going to be the next big thing.

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, fourteen years old, like grade nine, and

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>so he went to London.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 2>He'd couch surf or sleep on the subway if or

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 2>not subway but underground train if there was no one

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 2>to take him, and he was just busking and started

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 2>playing a lot of small venues until he until sort

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.720
<v Speaker 2>of social media happened in twenty ten and he started

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 2>showing his videos online and started gaining a little bit

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 2>of a following. But the massive catalyst was when he

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 2>was I think, busking in LA and he was invited

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to go on a radio show and the host let

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>him sing and it was just a local radio show,

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 2>nothing big, and he got a standing ovation from people

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 2>in the studio when he played. And that was Jamie

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Fox's radio show. And then he also slept on Jamie

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Fox's couch for the next few weeks until he started

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 2>getting some bigger things happening.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Love, Oh my god, I love you bringing out the

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>big boys. Yes, Sharon, and I just never would have guessed. Yes.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>And this is like such a huge thing. As you'll notice,

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>like with the really inspiring stories, they often had a

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of adversity. Huge Yeah, like bullied all through school? Yeah,

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>love Okay, my next one, so wow, I'm really just

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>making mine all about myself. But it is my podcast exactly.

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>That's fine. But otherwise I just don't have good examples

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>because like when do I have the time of course

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it's about me. So another great expander and this is

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>honestly more as I use this. I use this a

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>lot in the project when people are like I want

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>to start a business, but I don't have a following

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>like you Georgia blah blah blah. Like a huge example

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of that. And we've actually had her on the podcast

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and will link the episode in the show notes. Is

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Priscilla who started Bang and Body love her, which is

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>like it's the firm and cream. It's amazing, it's in

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the yellow tube. You'll know what it is. It's in

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the yellow tube. So she has this really cool story

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>where she's not an influencer. She never wanted to be

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>an influencer. But the way that she like built her

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>brand was she created in Instagram, which was just like

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>an inspo Instagram, and she kind of it's like, you

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>know a form of blogging. And then she really kind

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>of went a different way than how everyone else was

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>doing it. And then she had you know, like a

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 1>vip list and like she had a marketing strategy that

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 1>was just different and outside the box. Yeah, and had

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>a huge launch and like recently she's gone in Mecca

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and like just like done some really cool things, and

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I just love it because I feel like a lot

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 1>of businesses right now are built off followings and Instagram.

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Like this morning, I was telling a tear about the

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Uninspired boys, the what's it called unemployed, uninspired? Unemployed? Yeah, no, inspired, uninfluenced.

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>So I was just listening to the Shameless podcast and

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>they were saying how those boys they started to be

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>a company and it is the fastest growing beer company

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>in like eight years. Insane, insane. But anyway, like that's

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a great example of like off a following. Yeah, so

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I just love her story because it's a very like

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Instagram social media business. But it's like, no, you don't

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>have to be an influencer exactly.

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 2>You can just put the work in and grove following

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>without starting from nothing, essentially, Yes, exactly. Well my next one.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>So these girls are pretty young, which is why I

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 2>think I relate to them a lot as an expander

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 2>because I am a little bit young too. So I

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 2>have picked these girls as expanders because it's very much

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 2>sort of the industry vibe that I want to go into,

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 2>and they've just done incredible things. So they're called Barlow

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>and Bear, So their actual names are Abigail Barlow and

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Emily Bear. Emily is twenty, I think or twenty one,

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and Abigail is about twenty two or twenty three. So

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it was very inspirational because I've always felt like, oh,

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and I noticed a lot of my other friends feel

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 2>like I can't yet, I'm too young kind of thing.

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 2>People won't take me seriously when I'm twenty something. Huge block, Yeah,

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 2>massive block. And this really told me to sort of

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>just get off my high horse and just start working

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 2>because there's no point and what am I waiting for?

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 2>But they watched bridgeton the first season when it first

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 2>came out and was so inspired by that they wrote

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>a musical around it. But what I love about what

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 2>they did is they shared it on TikTok straight away,

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>like it was never a oh, people are going to

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 2>take our idea. Oh we're gonna get in trouble with copyright.

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.479
<v Speaker 2>There was just no blocks. They shared every song they wrote.

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>They did Instagram lives during the day while they were

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>writing songs for people, and that was still sort of

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>during COVID lockdown ish, so they had a lot of

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 2>engagement and they grew a massive following from that and

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>people loved being included in the process, and that in

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 2>itself is like a marketing strategy because it's the process

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>as the product kind of thing. And that's how they

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 2>grew this huge community and following to the point that

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>they were able to produce this musical theater album without

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 2>a record label and still get away with Like there

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 2>were obviously legal discussions because it's now been branded as

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 2>the unofficial Bridgeton Musical because.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm yeah, so were they Like the songs were they

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>based off Bridgeton and they just did their own spin

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>on it.

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Literally, Like some of the words are exact, so if

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 2>you listen to the opening number, it starts with the

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>exact word for word narration that Lady Whistledown gives at

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the series. So it's sort of that

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 2>if you took these songs and turned it into a

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 2>stage show, it would be Bridgeton Season one as a

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 2>stage show.

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 1>You can go watch it.

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Wow incredible and so well written. People loved it and

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>massive following. They grew and they produced this album and

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.919
<v Speaker 2>recently they've now they got nominated for a Grammy, which

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 2>is huge for Best Musical Theater Album of the Year.

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>And they were against I think they were against like

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 2>the redoing of West Side Story and they won that.

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I know and creditcu me.

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Goosebumps, yes, because next level and now there their living life.

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 2>It's been just maybe over a year and a bit

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:43.720
<v Speaker 2>or almost two years, and they're now working on another

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>musical in Punt that Dolly partners in. So they've just

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>gone from no one knowing who they were. They just

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 2>worked really really hard.

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And they didn't think that they couldn't, you know what

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I love. This is also a story coming up, like

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>an x ME coming up for me is Kara our

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>will Labor, who has actually been on the potty as

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>a guest. She has this really cool story of she

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 1>wanted to publish a book and she got turned down

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 1>by I think it's like twenty nine publishers, but she

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, this needs to be a book. So

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>she's self published and she kept self publishing books and

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>now she's like a best selling author and it's like

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>she didn't need someone to validate her. She just like

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 1>went and did it herself and she said it was like, honestly,

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>so much easier. And then it's funny because she then

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>got a book published by a really high end publisher

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and didn't like the experience and went back to self publishing. Wow. Yeah,

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 1>that's so cool. Yeah. So it's like you don't have

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to do it in the way you're thinking.

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 2>No, you can do it however you want. And I

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 2>think as well, people think industries like that are super

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 2>hard to get into, but just don't think too much

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 2>to just do it.

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>They are. But you can make your own seat. Yeah

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that's not a good quote. Yeah, you can make your

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>put give yourself a seat at the table. Amazing. So

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 1>we've just randomly brought Cooper in here because it's our

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>new thing. I was talking to Cooper about this before

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>we started recording, and he wanted to talk about his expanders.

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I love that. So Coop, me and Tear have just

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>gone back and forward with our expanders.

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hello, everyone, I'm back. You're welcome. One of mine

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 3>is Jen Czero. She wrote the book How to Be

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 3>a Badass of Making Money, and that definitely changed my

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:41.919
<v Speaker 3>life pretty much, a bit dramatic, but it kind of did.

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 3>It was, yeah, all things money mindset, how to have

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 3>a good relationship with money, and that changed everything for me.

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that book Cooper also because I'm much

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the same on you, but it was more expanded to

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like believe in yourself to go after what you want.

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>But also, like I think a big thing for that

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>book and me was like doing what you like can

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 1>also be your job. That was huge for me in

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Cooper because we grew up with with you don't like

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 1>your job, you just do it for money, You work

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>eight to five and then you have fun after. Yeah,

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>And that was like huge in that book for me.

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:23.320
<v Speaker 2>So I if you don't know who this person is,

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.240
<v Speaker 2>you'll know her TV shows. Her name is Shonda Rhimes

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 2>and she is the creator. She now owns her own

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 2>production company called Shondaland, but she produced in creatively produced

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Gray's Anatomy, bridgeton How to Get Away with Murder. She's

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 2>done a lot of good, huge TV shows, And what

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I love about her in particular is that she just

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>did the work.

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Like.

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Her parents weren't in the industry of making movies or TV,

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 2>which is typically that's how people get into it. But

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 2>they were just uni professors. One of her mum was

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 2>worked in admin, her dad was a lecturer. She just

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 2>ticked every step that you think you'd need to kind

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>of thing.

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 1>And she went to.

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>School, graduated school, went to some really good colleges, studied

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 2>English and film studies, and then interned and then just

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 2>worked her way up slowly to the point that she

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 2>was able to start her own production company. And what

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I think and you'll love this, she wrote the screenplay

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 2>for The Princess Diaries too.

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so she did. She did the normal work that

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 2>you think, and I think people discredit that sometimes because

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:34.839
<v Speaker 2>they'll go, if I go through the normal channels, there's

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 2>no way I'm going to be able to get to

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 2>where I need to. I need to make this massively

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 2>and just end up at the end, at the end goal.

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 2>But it's not really necessary. Like you can go to UNI,

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 2>you can study the business degree, you can study the

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>film degree, and then just get the internships and slowly

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 2>work your way up to your goals, but you still

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:54.719
<v Speaker 2>need to know that you can achieve them kind of thing.

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think so with that a tea, it's

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:02.320
<v Speaker 1>also realizing enough think has to be a certain way. Yeah,

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I think this whole episode, it's like you don't

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>actually have to do anything a certain way. It's exactly

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the gi just yeah, I hear you. What. Well,

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is like we know expanders who have

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 1>done it the like Shonda Rhymes and she's checked, you know,

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>checked each box then and it's like I don't think

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>there's any right or wrong way. And that's the beauty

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>of It's like what feels good to you. But a

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>huge thing is if you come from a certain background,

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>or you have certain blocks or certain things that you

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>think are stopping you from, you know, creating your dream life,

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you there's someone out there who has the

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>exact same but has created the dream life. Yeah, or worse. Yes,

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like what Yeah, I get what you mean.

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like they've come from a worse situation.

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Okay, Cooper, you have your last one that

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to tell us about, and this is a

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 1>good one.

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Okay. My second one is his name is Aiden. I

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 3>met him through a naked harvest. Whenever I've had problems

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 3>with packaging or logistics or even just personal problems as well,

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 3>I've always turned to him as well as he's turned

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 3>to me as well, and he's always helped me through.

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 3>He's just been a really good mate and plus he's

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 3>done it, so he's experienced a lot of it. He's

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 3>a little bit older and he's into his business a

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 3>lot further along. But yeah, he's helped me a lot

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 3>throughout everything. And yeah, some sort of challenge that I

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 3>just think it's impossible. I would give him a call

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 3>and he'd be like, what do you mean, of course

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 3>you can do it, just do it, and then it'd

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.720
<v Speaker 3>be a lot more conversation because he's a massive talker,

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 3>but I can tell your ear off. But yeah, he

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 3>has really helped me.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 1>So that's like such a good example because I feel

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 1>like menitia have touched on people around you who can

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>be expanders except my first one with my brother's girlfriend,

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>but that's like none of mine. But I think that's

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a big thing too. You can have both. You can

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>have you know, friends who are kind of doing the

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>thing you want to do, who are like further ahead,

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>or if you don't have the you know, the luxury

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>of having those sorts of relationships of finding it in

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the books and the podcasts.

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and do you reckon Like I don't know if

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>we'd call this an expand up, but just sort of

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 2>friends that remove those barriers for you. And your head

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, because I feel like the purpose of

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:39.839
<v Speaker 2>an expander is that when you have those blocks and

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:42.720
<v Speaker 2>all you see is challenges to doing something that removes

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 2>that for you. Would you say friends who when you

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 2>chat to them, even though they haven't done it, they go,

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>that's not an issue, like why are you stressing about that?

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, or even you know, just like friends

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:57.279
<v Speaker 1>who are like super encouraging of your idea.

0:48:57.320 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 3>If they are friends, they would know you and they

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 3>would know your problems as well, so they would know

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot more deeper than other people because it's a

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 3>lot more broad and bigger people and the new stuff.

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this is the reason why I brought Cooper in.

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I knew there was something.

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes, my last one is Georgia, my sister. Yes, actually

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 3>it's really weird because she's my younger sister. But yeah,

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:43.720
<v Speaker 3>Georgia was on her journey with this self development journey

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot sooner than me, and yeah, so she brought

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:51.720
<v Speaker 3>me along on her journey as well and has opened

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.800
<v Speaker 3>my eyes up to a lot of things. And yeah,

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 3>to not worry, to just dream bigger.

0:49:58.080 --> 0:49:58.839
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much.

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>And well, I think a big thing is like a

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Kooper just did not have a lot of belief in himself.

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 1>But you've got to we've got to pet them up. Yeah,

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>but that's just coming here.

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 3>System. You have to have a good support system, and

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 3>that's like the key with anything personal or business related.

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I literally just brought it in so he could tell you, guys,

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, you can leave now you've done it.

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:29.799
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:34.240
<v Speaker 1>But that's also like if you have, you know, personal

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>relationships that support you and make you feel good, like

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 1>make sure you keep those people close, and people who

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe aren't that supportive, I wouldn't be telling them your ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're starting off something like, Yeah, you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be very careful who you share your ideas with because

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<v Speaker 3>they just can't comprehend it and they're going to bring

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<v Speaker 3>you down.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think also when you're starting something, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>already have a lot of doubt in yourself. The last

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<v Speaker 1>thing you need is someone to put like one percent

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<v Speaker 1>out in your head even more. Yeah, So that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think it's even if you've got doubt,

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<v Speaker 3>it's you've got this energy. When you're starting something, you

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<v Speaker 3>remember like like you're this so much energy and you

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<v Speaker 3>think it's the best thing ever. And then you're so

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<v Speaker 3>excited and you had to tell someone and then they

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<v Speaker 3>shut it down that it just and then that's it

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<v Speaker 3>that wrecks you. But yeah, so choosual.

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<v Speaker 2>Any tips on how to if say, you haven't started

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<v Speaker 2>a business or you haven't had a huge dream before

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<v Speaker 2>and you do want to share it with people around you,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you know who are the right people to

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<v Speaker 2>share it with you?

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<v Speaker 3>To make your mistakes?

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<v Speaker 1>You test it, well, I think it's stick skin. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my honestly, my thing that I do is I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell anyone. I'm like hugely secretive because if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit of doubt that I see in other people,

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<v Speaker 1>I like collapse like I can't. So I make it

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<v Speaker 1>a huge thing that I'm quite secretive, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>to protect me because I know what happens, Yeah, once

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<v Speaker 1>doubt seeps in, And so if you ask someone similar

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I just would be keeping it to yourself

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<v Speaker 1>unless you know that person is going to be supportive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But a big thing I talk about is like it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard enough getting yourself on board to believe it. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to then have to go and spend energy

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<v Speaker 1>on getting other people to believe it. All right, guys, Sears, welcome, thanksgiver,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we love his perspective because it's always so different

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<v Speaker 1>to us. It's so different. All right, guys, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed this episode. I hope you've got a dose

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<v Speaker 1>of inspiration and like I said, homework. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>doubt in your dreams or just your next step, go

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<v Speaker 1>and seek how people who have done it. Consume their content,

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<v Speaker 1>be around them, even if it's like an audiobook or

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast or Instagram. You know, follow those people, put

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<v Speaker 1>them on your favorites list on Instagram, so you're just

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<v Speaker 1>consuming their content because that is such a huge catalyst

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<v Speaker 1>to then, you know, following your things. Such a great

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<v Speaker 1>manifestation hack.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude.

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