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Speaker 1: The Rising Conker Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of the

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Speaker 1: land which this episode is being recorded, the yugen Bear region.

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Speaker 1: and terrestrid Islander peoples. Today. Hello and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This is the podcast for

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Speaker 1: ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things. Hello and

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Verizon Ponker Podcast. It is your host,

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Speaker 1: Georgie Stephenson, lawyer turned entrepreneur, mum, business owner, all the things.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another Tuesday episode. Today we are chatting expanders.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know what that is, hold tight. We

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Speaker 1: But before we get into it, a little update on

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Speaker 1: my week. Honestly, not too much to update. Had a

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Speaker 1: very chill weekend. Wanted to spend a lot of quality

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Speaker 1: I even got a massage. It was lovely. I was

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Speaker 1: all right, guys, today we are chatting expanders. This is

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Speaker 1: you know, the hype, the hype. And that was just

433
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Speaker 1: like like one example that I thought was, you know,

434
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Speaker 1: it's like costing her money, but it's putting it back

435
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: in the business. But it was just like just the

436
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: little thing she did was like really incredible in her story.

437
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And another little thing she did that I love

438
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Speaker 2: was she sent a basket of Spanx to Oprah Winfrey's

439
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: TV address with a gift card and it just also

440
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 2: a letter explaining what she was trying to develop. And

441
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: in the end Oprah ended up picking it up and

442
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: finding out about the business and bringing it up on

443
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: her TV show saying they were one of her favorite things,

444
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: which at that time was huge.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, oh my god, do you remember you told

446
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Speaker 1: me that story about the person who like jumped the

447
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: Kardashians fence. She's amazing tell us about that. Her name is,

448
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: It's Olivia something, and she's the founder of a business

449
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: in Melbourne called Silk Olivia Carr. So she started a

450
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Speaker 1: silk brand in Melbourne and she really really wanted to

451
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Speaker 1: get the Kardashians on board. And the way she did

452
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Speaker 1: this was she saved up, bought a ticket to La

453
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Speaker 1: literally jumped the fence to their house and left a

454
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Speaker 1: basket of products and like a five page letter about

455
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Speaker 1: who she was. She was a single mom at the time,

456
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Speaker 1: raising her daughter very young.

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Speaker 3: Mum.

458
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Speaker 2: I think she had her daughter when she was about

459
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 2: twenty years old and she'd started this brand, and they

460
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: endorsed the products, and the Kardashians order from her now

461
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 2: and her brands built to this amazing thing. And what

462
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Speaker 2: I really loved about that story was it was nuts,

463
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: but she did it such.

464
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Speaker 1: A risk, big risk, because they could have just got

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Speaker 1: it and been like, yeah, we get a thousands of these.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and she was. I think what's important as well

467
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: that Sarah did is that they both showed themselves in it,

468
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: Like they didn't just send this perfectly packaged PR box.

469
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: They went there themselves, they dropped it off, they wrote

470
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Speaker 2: a letter explaining who they were and why their goal

471
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Speaker 2: was so important to them. And then the other thing

472
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Speaker 2: she did was she did the same thing with the

473
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Speaker 2: Beverly Hills Hotel, so they manufactured the Beverly Hills Hotel PJ.

474
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Speaker 2: And she did that by going to Beverly Hills Hotel,

475
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Speaker 2: finding out who was the person in charge of that beforehand,

476
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Speaker 2: and going to actually meet them in person and making

477
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Speaker 2: that effort even though she was technically still a tiny business,

478
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Speaker 2: and not letting that stop her from going for those

479
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Speaker 2: huge clients.

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Speaker 1: Love, I'm excited, what's the next one? I love this episode.

481
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: Shit's getting me excited. Yeah, all right, next one. So

482
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: this this was like a recent expander. So I had

483
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: a lot of limiting beliefs around getting pregnant and having

484
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: a baby and you know, still being successful in business

485
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: and so content that I really kind of looked for

486
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: and consumed when I was pregnant was like other female

487
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs who you know, were either pregnant or had kids.

488
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Speaker 1: And someone who I found who I love is Jenna Kutcher.

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Speaker 1: So she actually has the Goal Goal Yeah, Goal Digger podcast.

490
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: She's great. She's on Instagram as Jenna Kutcher and she

491
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: is this. So her backstory is she was a photographer

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00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: and she would work a week. She like photograph weddings,

493
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Speaker 1: so yeah, she used to do weddings, so she'd work

494
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Speaker 1: all weekend edit photos during the week, and you know,

495
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: it was not sustainable. So then she started an online

496
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: course all about teaching I believe it was like other

497
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: photographers how to market, because she got so busy that

498
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: she couldn't keep up. So she had obviously like you know,

499
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: found a niche or whatever. So then she helped other

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Speaker 1: photographers market. So then she started doing like online courses

501
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: and that's her bread and butter now is online courses,

502
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: so she teaches about marketing in a very simplistic way,

503
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: like she has courses about like Pinterest and just how

504
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: to utilize things. And then also herself, she has a

505
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: backroun of you know, having three miscarriages and she puts

506
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: a lot of her personal life online, so you know,

507
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: you know her and you you feel like you know her.

508
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: So then she has this really beautiful story of you know,

509
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: finally having a pregnancy that went to full term. And

510
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: what she did was she like really prepped her team

511
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: and had a whole process of she wanted to take

512
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: time off, so maternity leave. And also another thing is

513
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: like her husband, like she was the breadwinner and her

514
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: husband the plan was to stay at home with baby

515
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 1: and she would go back to work. So similar with

516
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Speaker 1: me and Tim as well. So like I found her

517
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, Yes, she's my

518
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: expander at the moment. And she has this really cool

519
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: episode where she she always does like a year in

520
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: review where she'll literally tell you like the number figure

521
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: of like how much she earned. Wow. Yeah, Like she's

522
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: very transparent, and in this episode she was going like

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Speaker 1: the year of I think it was like twenty ninety

524
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Speaker 1: and so that's the year that she had her baby.

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Speaker 1: She was on maternity leave, but she had prepped her

526
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Speaker 1: team so they could still work, still launch, but she

527
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Speaker 1: you know, wasn't working and she got time with her baby,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, she came back to work and

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Speaker 1: she said, it was the year that I spent the

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Speaker 1: least time in my business. And I'm pretty sure they

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Speaker 1: like double their income. Oh my god. Yeah, so she's like,

532
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Speaker 1: this is the most I've ever earned and it was

533
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Speaker 1: like seven million, seventeen million or something ridiculous like that

534
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Speaker 1: while having her first baby and being on maternity leave.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible. It was, and it was incredible, and it

536
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Speaker 1: made me believe. I'm like, oh my god, I have

537
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Speaker 1: so many limiting beliefs around getting pregnant and around running

538
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Speaker 1: my business and around having our baby. And she was

539
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Speaker 1: just such like an expander for me during that time.

540
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Speaker 1: And then also what I love too is she also

541
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Speaker 1: a huge thing we did with Naked Harvest was like

542
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Speaker 1: really prep so I could take time off with Ivy

543
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: and have maternity leave and be like really ahead. And

544
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: she was like a catalyst for like doing that and

545
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: that's what we did, and that was like really good

546
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: to you know, be really prepped. Yeah. Yeah, So she

547
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: was such a huge expander for me. Of and she

548
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: still is in regards to She just had her second

549
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: baby and she still like the company still runs. You know,

550
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Speaker 1: her husband is at home with the kids, and she's

551
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Speaker 1: just such an inspiration. I love that, love love her.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to start this by reading out an

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Speaker 2: Instagram post to you, and then I'm gonna say who

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Speaker 2: it is. This wasn't posted by that person, It was

555
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: posted by someone else. The Instagram post is by Holly Branson,

556
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: which is Richard Branson's daughter, and it says ten years ago,

557
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: while at a music event for up and coming artists

558
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Speaker 2: with some friends, my then fiance grabbed me and pulled

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Speaker 2: me over to a makeshift stage and said, you've got

560
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: to hear this young guy sing. He's amazing. On stage

561
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: was an eighteen year old guy on his own with

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Speaker 2: his guitar, and Freddie was right. He blew me away.

563
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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask if he would if he would

564
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Speaker 2: want to play at our wedding. I don't think I've

565
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Speaker 2: ever seen Freddie so excited. We were both delighted when

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Speaker 2: he agreed and said, I've never been to the Caribbean,

567
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Speaker 2: so if you book my flat and give me somewhere

568
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Speaker 2: to sleep, then I'm game, he said. Eight months later,

569
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Speaker 2: as our wedding loomed, he had released his first hits

570
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Speaker 2: and pretty much broke the internet on SBTV and appeared

571
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Speaker 2: on Jules Holland. I don't know what that show is,

572
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: Bud seem it's big. There's no way he's still going

573
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Speaker 2: to come. Freddie I insisted he's a superstar with the

574
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Speaker 2: heavy heart of a bride to be. I emailed saying

575
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Speaker 2: we completely understood if he could no longer make it,

576
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Speaker 2: and congratulated him on his much deserved huge success. His

577
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Speaker 2: reply stunned me. A promise is a promise. I still

578
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: haven't managed to get to the Caribbean. I'll be there.

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Speaker 2: We genuinely couldn't believe it. Your promise made our wedding

580
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Speaker 2: even more special. Last week, Freddie and I had yet

581
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Speaker 2: another magical evening watching one of the most successful artists

582
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Speaker 2: of the last decade on star Age in London performing

583
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Speaker 2: at his tenure anniversary concert at the Shepherd's Bush Empire.

584
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Speaker 2: It was so nostalgic for us as we watched him

585
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Speaker 2: in the same spot ten years ago when people were

586
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Speaker 2: only just starting to get to know him. Congratulations, you

587
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: deserve every ounce of your success. You're amazing, Freddie. And

588
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: I could not be happier to have been at the

589
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Speaker 2: event on that fateful night. And that's about Ed Sheeran.

590
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Speaker 1: Stop how crazy. And he's like literally the number one

591
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Speaker 1: artist on Spotify. Now. I love Ed Churan, I love

592
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: Edcheeran just like he's amazing. I just I'd adore him.

593
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Speaker 1: And so what's the backstory.

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Speaker 2: What's even crazier is that he was bullied all through school.

595
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: So he had a speech impediment, he had his glass

596
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: and red hair. He had his red hair, so people

597
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: bullied him a lot, and he had a rough time

598
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: in school. And he also had a surgery that went

599
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Speaker 2: wrong and left him with a lazy eye and even

600
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Speaker 2: worse speech problems. So the bullying just got worse and worse. Yeah,

601
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Speaker 2: to the point that he couldn't even talk in class,

602
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Speaker 2: Like he'd put his hand up to answer a question

603
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Speaker 2: and nothing would come out. Speech therapy didn't work for

604
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Speaker 2: him at all, Like he kept going and going and going.

605
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: Nothing worked, Nothing happened and the thing that changed was

606
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Speaker 2: when his dad bought him Eminem's record and Ed Sheeran

607
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: loved the rapping, you know, the really really fast one,

608
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: and he made sure to learn every word. And that's

609
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Speaker 2: how he got out of having a speech impediment, is

610
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Speaker 2: by learning Eminem's rapping because he wanted to rap as

611
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Speaker 2: fast as Eminem.

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Speaker 1: Should I buy Eminem.

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Speaker 2: Next episode, guys, George's going to be daring some Eminem

614
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: just rapping. But basically from there, when he was pretty

615
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: much a nobody, still in school, still very young, he

616
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: began writing his own music and singing, and his starter disappeared,

617
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: and from there he would just start gigging. And he

618
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,959
Speaker 2: was like thirteen years old and he'd be like doing

619
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Speaker 2: two shows every night, just digging wherever and whenever he could.

620
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Speaker 2: And when he got to fourteen, he dropped out of school,

621
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Speaker 2: took his guitar, packed some clothes and went to London

622
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 2: and was like, I'm going to be the next big thing.

623
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, fourteen years old, like grade nine, and

624
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Speaker 1: so he went to London.

625
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: He'd couch surf or sleep on the subway if or

626
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Speaker 2: not subway but underground train if there was no one

627
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Speaker 2: to take him, and he was just busking and started

628
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: playing a lot of small venues until he until sort

629
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Speaker 2: of social media happened in twenty ten and he started

630
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Speaker 2: showing his videos online and started gaining a little bit

631
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Speaker 2: of a following. But the massive catalyst was when he

632
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: was I think, busking in LA and he was invited

633
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Speaker 2: to go on a radio show and the host let

634
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Speaker 2: him sing and it was just a local radio show,

635
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: nothing big, and he got a standing ovation from people

636
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: in the studio when he played. And that was Jamie

637
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: Fox's radio show. And then he also slept on Jamie

638
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: Fox's couch for the next few weeks until he started

639
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: getting some bigger things happening.

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Speaker 1: Love, Oh my god, I love you bringing out the

641
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: big boys. Yes, Sharon, and I just never would have guessed. Yes.

642
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: And this is like such a huge thing. As you'll notice,

643
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: like with the really inspiring stories, they often had a

644
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: lot of adversity. Huge Yeah, like bullied all through school? Yeah,

645
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: love Okay, my next one, so wow, I'm really just

646
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: making mine all about myself. But it is my podcast exactly.

647
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: That's fine. But otherwise I just don't have good examples

648
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: because like when do I have the time of course

649
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: it's about me. So another great expander and this is

650
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: honestly more as I use this. I use this a

651
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: lot in the project when people are like I want

652
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: to start a business, but I don't have a following

653
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: like you Georgia blah blah blah. Like a huge example

654
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: of that. And we've actually had her on the podcast

655
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: and will link the episode in the show notes. Is

656
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Priscilla who started Bang and Body love her, which is

657
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: like it's the firm and cream. It's amazing, it's in

658
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: the yellow tube. You'll know what it is. It's in

659
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: the yellow tube. So she has this really cool story

660
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: where she's not an influencer. She never wanted to be

661
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: an influencer. But the way that she like built her

662
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: brand was she created in Instagram, which was just like

663
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: an inspo Instagram, and she kind of it's like, you

664
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: know a form of blogging. And then she really kind

665
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: of went a different way than how everyone else was

666
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: doing it. And then she had you know, like a

667
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: vip list and like she had a marketing strategy that

668
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: was just different and outside the box. Yeah, and had

669
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: a huge launch and like recently she's gone in Mecca

670
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: and like just like done some really cool things, and

671
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: I just love it because I feel like a lot

672
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: of businesses right now are built off followings and Instagram.

673
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: Like this morning, I was telling a tear about the

674
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: Uninspired boys, the what's it called unemployed, uninspired? Unemployed? Yeah, no, inspired, uninfluenced.

675
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: So I was just listening to the Shameless podcast and

676
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: they were saying how those boys they started to be

677
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: a company and it is the fastest growing beer company

678
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: in like eight years. Insane, insane. But anyway, like that's

679
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: a great example of like off a following. Yeah, so

680
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: I just love her story because it's a very like

681
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: Instagram social media business. But it's like, no, you don't

682
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: have to be an influencer exactly.

683
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: You can just put the work in and grove following

684
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: without starting from nothing, essentially, Yes, exactly. Well my next one.

685
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: So these girls are pretty young, which is why I

686
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: think I relate to them a lot as an expander

687
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: because I am a little bit young too. So I

688
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: have picked these girls as expanders because it's very much

689
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: sort of the industry vibe that I want to go into,

690
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: and they've just done incredible things. So they're called Barlow

691
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: and Bear, So their actual names are Abigail Barlow and

692
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: Emily Bear. Emily is twenty, I think or twenty one,

693
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: and Abigail is about twenty two or twenty three. So

694
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: it was very inspirational because I've always felt like, oh,

695
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: and I noticed a lot of my other friends feel

696
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: like I can't yet, I'm too young kind of thing.

697
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: People won't take me seriously when I'm twenty something. Huge block, Yeah,

698
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: massive block. And this really told me to sort of

699
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: just get off my high horse and just start working

700
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: because there's no point and what am I waiting for?

701
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: But they watched bridgeton the first season when it first

702
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: came out and was so inspired by that they wrote

703
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: a musical around it. But what I love about what

704
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: they did is they shared it on TikTok straight away,

705
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: like it was never a oh, people are going to

706
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: take our idea. Oh we're gonna get in trouble with copyright.

707
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 2: There was just no blocks. They shared every song they wrote.

708
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: They did Instagram lives during the day while they were

709
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: writing songs for people, and that was still sort of

710
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: during COVID lockdown ish, so they had a lot of

711
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: engagement and they grew a massive following from that and

712
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: people loved being included in the process, and that in

713
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: itself is like a marketing strategy because it's the process

714
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: as the product kind of thing. And that's how they

715
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: grew this huge community and following to the point that

716
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: they were able to produce this musical theater album without

717
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: a record label and still get away with Like there

718
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: were obviously legal discussions because it's now been branded as

719
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: the unofficial Bridgeton Musical because.

720
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, so were they Like the songs were they

721
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: based off Bridgeton and they just did their own spin

722
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: on it.

723
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: Literally, Like some of the words are exact, so if

724
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: you listen to the opening number, it starts with the

725
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: exact word for word narration that Lady Whistledown gives at

726
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: the beginning of the series. So it's sort of that

727
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: if you took these songs and turned it into a

728
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: stage show, it would be Bridgeton Season one as a

729
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: stage show.

730
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: You can go watch it.

731
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: Wow incredible and so well written. People loved it and

732
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: massive following. They grew and they produced this album and

733
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 2: recently they've now they got nominated for a Grammy, which

734
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: is huge for Best Musical Theater Album of the Year.

735
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

736
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: And they were against I think they were against like

737
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: the redoing of West Side Story and they won that.

738
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: Wow, I know and creditcu me.

739
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: Goosebumps, yes, because next level and now there their living life.

740
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: It's been just maybe over a year and a bit

741
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: or almost two years, and they're now working on another

742
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: musical in Punt that Dolly partners in. So they've just

743
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: gone from no one knowing who they were. They just

744
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: worked really really hard.

745
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: And they didn't think that they couldn't, you know what

746
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: I love. This is also a story coming up, like

747
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: an x ME coming up for me is Kara our

748
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: will Labor, who has actually been on the potty as

749
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: a guest. She has this really cool story of she

750
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 1: wanted to publish a book and she got turned down

751
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: by I think it's like twenty nine publishers, but she

752
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: was like, no, this needs to be a book. So

753
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: she's self published and she kept self publishing books and

754
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: now she's like a best selling author and it's like

755
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: she didn't need someone to validate her. She just like

756
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: went and did it herself and she said it was like, honestly,

757
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: so much easier. And then it's funny because she then

758
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: got a book published by a really high end publisher

759
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: and didn't like the experience and went back to self publishing. Wow. Yeah,

760
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: that's so cool. Yeah. So it's like you don't have

761
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: to do it in the way you're thinking.

762
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: No, you can do it however you want. And I

763
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: think as well, people think industries like that are super

764
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: hard to get into, but just don't think too much

765
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: to just do it.

766
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: They are. But you can make your own seat. Yeah

767
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: that's not a good quote. Yeah, you can make your

768
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: put give yourself a seat at the table. Amazing. So

769
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: we've just randomly brought Cooper in here because it's our

770
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: new thing. I was talking to Cooper about this before

771
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: we started recording, and he wanted to talk about his expanders.

772
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: I love that. So Coop, me and Tear have just

773
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: gone back and forward with our expanders.

774
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, everyone, I'm back. You're welcome. One of mine

775
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: is Jen Czero. She wrote the book How to Be

776
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: a Badass of Making Money, and that definitely changed my

777
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 3: life pretty much, a bit dramatic, but it kind of did.

778
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: It was, yeah, all things money mindset, how to have

779
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: a good relationship with money, and that changed everything for me.

780
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that book Cooper also because I'm much

781
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: the same on you, but it was more expanded to

782
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: like believe in yourself to go after what you want.

783
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: But also, like I think a big thing for that

784
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: book and me was like doing what you like can

785
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: also be your job. That was huge for me in

786
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: Cooper because we grew up with with you don't like

787
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: your job, you just do it for money, You work

788
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: eight to five and then you have fun after. Yeah,

789
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: And that was like huge in that book for me.

790
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: So I if you don't know who this person is,

791
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: you'll know her TV shows. Her name is Shonda Rhimes

792
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: and she is the creator. She now owns her own

793
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: production company called Shondaland, but she produced in creatively produced

794
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: Gray's Anatomy, bridgeton How to Get Away with Murder. She's

795
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: done a lot of good, huge TV shows, And what

796
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: I love about her in particular is that she just

797
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: did the work.

798
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: Like.

799
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: Her parents weren't in the industry of making movies or TV,

800
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: which is typically that's how people get into it. But

801
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: they were just uni professors. One of her mum was

802
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: worked in admin, her dad was a lecturer. She just

803
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: ticked every step that you think you'd need to kind

804
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: of thing.

805
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: And she went to.

806
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: School, graduated school, went to some really good colleges, studied

807
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: English and film studies, and then interned and then just

808
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: worked her way up slowly to the point that she

809
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: was able to start her own production company. And what

810
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: I think and you'll love this, she wrote the screenplay

811
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: for The Princess Diaries too.

812
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

813
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she did. She did the normal work that

814
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: you think, and I think people discredit that sometimes because

815
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: they'll go, if I go through the normal channels, there's

816
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: no way I'm going to be able to get to

817
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: where I need to. I need to make this massively

818
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: and just end up at the end, at the end goal.

819
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: But it's not really necessary. Like you can go to UNI,

820
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: you can study the business degree, you can study the

821
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: film degree, and then just get the internships and slowly

822
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: work your way up to your goals, but you still

823
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: need to know that you can achieve them kind of thing.

824
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think so with that a tea, it's

825
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: also realizing enough think has to be a certain way. Yeah,

826
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Like I think this whole episode, it's like you don't

827
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: actually have to do anything a certain way. It's exactly

828
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: that's that's the gi just yeah, I hear you. What. Well,

829
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like we know expanders who have

830
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: done it the like Shonda Rhymes and she's checked, you know,

831
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: checked each box then and it's like I don't think

832
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: there's any right or wrong way. And that's the beauty

833
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: of It's like what feels good to you. But a

834
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: huge thing is if you come from a certain background,

835
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: or you have certain blocks or certain things that you

836
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: think are stopping you from, you know, creating your dream life,

837
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: I guarantee you there's someone out there who has the

838
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: exact same but has created the dream life. Yeah, or worse. Yes,

839
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: it's like what Yeah, I get what you mean.

840
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they've come from a worse situation.

841
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Okay, Cooper, you have your last one that

842
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: you wanted to tell us about, and this is a

843
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: good one.

844
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: Okay. My second one is his name is Aiden. I

845
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: met him through a naked harvest. Whenever I've had problems

846
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: with packaging or logistics or even just personal problems as well,

847
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: I've always turned to him as well as he's turned

848
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: to me as well, and he's always helped me through.

849
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

850
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: He's just been a really good mate and plus he's

851
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: done it, so he's experienced a lot of it. He's

852
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: a little bit older and he's into his business a

853
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: lot further along. But yeah, he's helped me a lot

854
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: throughout everything. And yeah, some sort of challenge that I

855
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: just think it's impossible. I would give him a call

856
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: and he'd be like, what do you mean, of course

857
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: you can do it, just do it, and then it'd

858
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 3: be a lot more conversation because he's a massive talker,

859
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: but I can tell your ear off. But yeah, he

860
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: has really helped me.

861
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: So that's like such a good example because I feel

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Speaker 1: like menitia have touched on people around you who can

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Speaker 1: be expanders except my first one with my brother's girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: but that's like none of mine. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: a big thing too. You can have both. You can

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Speaker 1: have you know, friends who are kind of doing the

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Speaker 1: thing you want to do, who are like further ahead,

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Speaker 1: or if you don't have the you know, the luxury

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Speaker 1: of having those sorts of relationships of finding it in

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Speaker 1: the books and the podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and do you reckon Like I don't know if

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Speaker 2: we'd call this an expand up, but just sort of

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00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: friends that remove those barriers for you. And your head

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Speaker 2: kind of thing, because I feel like the purpose of

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Speaker 2: an expander is that when you have those blocks and

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Speaker 2: all you see is challenges to doing something that removes

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Speaker 2: that for you. Would you say friends who when you

878
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: chat to them, even though they haven't done it, they go,

879
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Speaker 2: that's not an issue, like why are you stressing about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, or even you know, just like friends

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00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: who are like super encouraging of your idea.

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Speaker 3: If they are friends, they would know you and they

883
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: would know your problems as well, so they would know

884
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Speaker 3: a lot more deeper than other people because it's a

885
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Speaker 3: lot more broad and bigger people and the new stuff.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this is the reason why I brought Cooper in.

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Speaker 1: I knew there was something.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my last one is Georgia, my sister. Yes, actually

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00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: it's really weird because she's my younger sister. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Georgia was on her journey with this self development journey

891
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: a lot sooner than me, and yeah, so she brought

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Speaker 3: me along on her journey as well and has opened

893
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Speaker 3: my eyes up to a lot of things. And yeah,

894
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: to not worry, to just dream bigger.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much.

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Speaker 1: And well, I think a big thing is like a

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Speaker 1: Kooper just did not have a lot of belief in himself.

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Speaker 1: But you've got to we've got to pet them up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's just coming here.

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Speaker 3: System. You have to have a good support system, and

902
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: that's like the key with anything personal or business related.

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Speaker 1: I literally just brought it in so he could tell you, guys,

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00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: all right, you can leave now you've done it.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: But that's also like if you have, you know, personal

907
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: relationships that support you and make you feel good, like

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00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: make sure you keep those people close, and people who

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Speaker 1: maybe aren't that supportive, I wouldn't be telling them your ideas.

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Speaker 3: When you're starting off something like, Yeah, you've got to

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00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 3: be very careful who you share your ideas with because

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00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 3: they just can't comprehend it and they're going to bring

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Speaker 3: you down.

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Speaker 1: So I think also when you're starting something, you probably

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Speaker 1: already have a lot of doubt in yourself. The last

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Speaker 1: thing you need is someone to put like one percent

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Speaker 1: out in your head even more. Yeah, So that's like

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Speaker 1: a huge thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's even if you've got doubt,

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Speaker 3: it's you've got this energy. When you're starting something, you

921
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 3: remember like like you're this so much energy and you

922
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: think it's the best thing ever. And then you're so

923
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 3: excited and you had to tell someone and then they

924
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: shut it down that it just and then that's it

925
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: that wrecks you. But yeah, so choosual.

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Speaker 2: Any tips on how to if say, you haven't started

927
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: a business or you haven't had a huge dream before

928
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: and you do want to share it with people around you,

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00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: how do you know who are the right people to

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Speaker 2: share it with you?

931
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Speaker 3: To make your mistakes?

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Speaker 1: You test it, well, I think it's stick skin. Well,

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Speaker 1: my honestly, my thing that I do is I just

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Speaker 1: don't tell anyone. I'm like hugely secretive because if there's

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Speaker 1: a tiny bit of doubt that I see in other people,

936
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Speaker 1: I like collapse like I can't. So I make it

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Speaker 1: a huge thing that I'm quite secretive, and that is

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Speaker 1: to protect me because I know what happens, Yeah, once

939
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: doubt seeps in, And so if you ask someone similar

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00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: to me, I just would be keeping it to yourself

941
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Speaker 1: unless you know that person is going to be supportive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

943
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: But a big thing I talk about is like it's

944
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Speaker 1: hard enough getting yourself on board to believe it. You

945
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: don't need to then have to go and spend energy

946
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Speaker 1: on getting other people to believe it. All right, guys, Sears, welcome, thanksgiver,

947
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: Like we love his perspective because it's always so different

948
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: to us. It's so different. All right, guys, I hope

949
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: you enjoyed this episode. I hope you've got a dose

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00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: of inspiration and like I said, homework. If you have

951
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: doubt in your dreams or just your next step, go

952
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: and seek how people who have done it. Consume their content,

953
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: be around them, even if it's like an audiobook or

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00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: a podcast or Instagram. You know, follow those people, put

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00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: them on your favorites list on Instagram, so you're just

956
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: consuming their content because that is such a huge catalyst

957
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: to then, you know, following your things. Such a great

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Speaker 1: manifestation hack.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for listening to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Rise and Concer podcast. If you enjoyed it

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965
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,120
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