1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,960
Speaker 1: But as I said, there is certainly a lot to

2
00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,040
Speaker 1: cover off this morning. And joining me on the line

3
00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,640
Speaker 1: right now is the Opposition leader Leah Fanocchiaro.

4
00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,160
Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Leah, Good.

5
00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,600
Speaker 3: Morning Katie and to your listeners.

6
00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,080
Speaker 1: Now Leah, first off, I want to take you across

7
00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,840
Speaker 1: to this story in the INNT News and I've seen

8
00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,120
Speaker 1: the email that Robin Lambley, the Independent Member for Arara

9
00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,680
Speaker 1: Luhn has sent myself to the She's sent it to

10
00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,479
Speaker 1: Brent Potter, the Minister for Police, and we know that

11
00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,520
Speaker 1: she's forced police to release details of a child rape investigation.

12
00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,920
Speaker 1: The Independent Member for Our Luhn released a statement to

13
00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,360
Speaker 1: the media on Tuesday reflecting the deep concern of Central

14
00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,800
Speaker 1: Australian residents worried at the information void around two incidents

15
00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,000
Speaker 1: over the past ten days. In this report, it says

16
00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,519
Speaker 1: one involved an alleged sexual assault in Ara Luhn on

17
00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,000
Speaker 1: December four, which police announced in a media release that day.

18
00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,680
Speaker 1: We know that somebody has been apprehended in relation to that.

19
00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:05,080
Speaker 1: But she says I'm informed of a second allegation of

20
00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,360
Speaker 1: the rape of a young child in Tenant Creek in

21
00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,120
Speaker 1: recent days, and she says I'm informed the child was

22
00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,080
Speaker 1: transferred to the Alice Springs Hospital for treatment. Leah, what, firstly,

23
00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,560
Speaker 1: what is your reaction to this?

24
00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,000
Speaker 3: Well, it's horrific, and of course we've seen violent sexual

25
00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,559
Speaker 3: offending increase across the territory and we have a labor

26
00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,040
Speaker 3: government totally incapable of making the decisions that it needs

27
00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,000
Speaker 3: to make to put the rights of people to be

28
00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,720
Speaker 3: safe above the rights of criminalism. So it's highly disturbing

29
00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,880
Speaker 3: that we continue to see this type of escalation in offending,

30
00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:48,280
Speaker 3: particularly violent and sexual offending, and ultimately, the community expects

31
00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,200
Speaker 3: better from its government in being able to give police

32
00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,280
Speaker 3: the resources they need.

33
00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,040
Speaker 1: Well, hang on a second, let's take a step back,

34
00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,600
Speaker 1: because the question here that's being raised, and yes, I

35
00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,880
Speaker 1: get what you're saying about the Northern Territory government, but

36
00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,680
Speaker 1: the question here that is being raised is not about

37
00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,000
Speaker 1: what the Northern Territory government is releasing or isn't releasing.

38
00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,880
Speaker 1: It's about the fact that this has happened and the

39
00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,120
Speaker 1: public haven't been informed. That's not the government, that's the

40
00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,359
Speaker 1: Northern Territory police.

41
00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,200
Speaker 3: Well, I genuinely question the influence of this government is

42
00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,800
Speaker 3: trying to put on our police, Katie. I think there's

43
00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,400
Speaker 3: been a number.

44
00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,280
Speaker 1: So you think the government's telling them to not release

45
00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:23,799
Speaker 1: this info.

46
00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,800
Speaker 3: I think there would absolutely be pressure coming down from

47
00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,519
Speaker 3: the top of government saying that we need to as

48
00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,400
Speaker 3: best we can keep a lid on crime and what's

49
00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,520
Speaker 3: being put out into the public. Now it's up to

50
00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,840
Speaker 3: police how they respond to that, but ultimately, the community

51
00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,200
Speaker 3: want to know about things happening right across the territory.

52
00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,120
Speaker 3: They have a right to know, particularly when they're a

53
00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,400
Speaker 3: dangerous offenders not in police custody, and this is just

54
00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,680
Speaker 3: another example of people losing confidence in the government's ability

55
00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,560
Speaker 3: to keep them safe.

56
00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:58,640
Speaker 2: So let me get this straight.

57
00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,520
Speaker 1: So you are saying that you do you feel the

58
00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480
Speaker 1: Northern Territory government would absolutely be putting pressure on the

59
00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,360
Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police Force right now to limit what they're

60
00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,400
Speaker 1: releasing to the public.

61
00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's that explicit, Katie, but I

62
00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,960
Speaker 3: absolutely believe that this government is putting pressure on our

63
00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,360
Speaker 3: police in a number of ways to keep them silent

64
00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,720
Speaker 3: and to try and keep a lid on the crime crisis.

65
00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,680
Speaker 3: I mean, we know just through the crimes we see

66
00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,079
Speaker 3: reported every day, Katie, we know there are hundreds, if

67
00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,160
Speaker 3: not thousands, more crimes happening across the territory that we

68
00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,440
Speaker 3: never ever learn about. Now, I'm sure police have some

69
00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,560
Speaker 3: sort of criteria on when they release information and when

70
00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,000
Speaker 3: they don't, but this isn't a new thing. This has

71
00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,360
Speaker 3: been failing the community expectation and pub tests for a

72
00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,240
Speaker 3: very very long time. And ultimately, the community have a

73
00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,600
Speaker 3: right to be safe, to know what's going on across

74
00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,880
Speaker 3: the territory. And this government can be as desperate as

75
00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,240
Speaker 3: it wants and trying to shut that down, but ultimately

76
00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,640
Speaker 3: it all comes to the surface.

77
00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,280
Speaker 1: Well, look, it's something that I have spoken to the

78
00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,160
Speaker 1: police on the show about before. In previous situations where

79
00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:09,160
Speaker 1: there has terribly been sexual assaults, things happen that then

80
00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,880
Speaker 1: the public have not been made aware of. So look,

81
00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't know where the breakdown is happening, but I

82
00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,800
Speaker 1: do know that the expectation from the community, whether you're

83
00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,240
Speaker 1: talking about Tenant Creek or whether you're talking about up

84
00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,839
Speaker 1: here in Darwin, no matter where you're talking about around

85
00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,960
Speaker 1: the territory, people have an expectation that they know and

86
00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,600
Speaker 1: that they are told if there is a dangerous offender

87
00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,760
Speaker 1: out on the streets. And I don't know whether like

88
00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,840
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know where the communication is broken

89
00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,400
Speaker 1: down here, but if we have got a situation where

90
00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,039
Speaker 1: a child has been sexually assaulted in Tenant Creek and

91
00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,400
Speaker 1: the public has not been made aware of it, and

92
00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,880
Speaker 1: that is you know, that is the accusation that's being

93
00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,560
Speaker 1: made by Robin Lamley.

94
00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,240
Speaker 2: I don't think that's good enough.

95
00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's exactly right, Katie. And of course police

96
00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,680
Speaker 3: have many considerations. So perhaps on occasion it's about protecting

97
00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,240
Speaker 3: the identity of the people involved, particularly around sexual assault cases,

98
00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,719
Speaker 3: but it's about a level of transparency that the community required.

99
00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,600
Speaker 3: Because the territory is a small place, Katie, a lot

100
00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,719
Speaker 3: of these things come to the surface one way or

101
00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,159
Speaker 3: the other and it's best that the government be upfront

102
00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,240
Speaker 3: from the start about it.

103
00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

104
00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,800
Speaker 1: Hey, I want to ask you about another story which

105
00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,880
Speaker 1: has just broken, this time on the ABC Online. It's

106
00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,160
Speaker 1: been reported that will Mark Turner, as we know, a

107
00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,320
Speaker 1: former Labor government MLA. He's released a statement yesterday saying

108
00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,479
Speaker 1: that he's received confidential legal advice in the wake of

109
00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,880
Speaker 1: the lack of response from the Northern Territory Cabinet to

110
00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,600
Speaker 1: alleged serious issues. He's referred to matters relating to the

111
00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,880
Speaker 1: Chief Minister and her office to the Northern Territory's I CACK.

112
00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,080
Speaker 1: So part of his referral to the I CACK, he

113
00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,799
Speaker 1: said related to Jared Richardson's consultancy position as a political

114
00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,440
Speaker 1: advisor to the Chief Minister Natasha Files. Now, mister Chardson,

115
00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,640
Speaker 1: as we know, I was the co owner of consultancy

116
00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,760
Speaker 1: firm Brookline Advisory, which has listed gas company tambor On

117
00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,839
Speaker 1: Resources as one of its clients on the Federal Lobbyist

118
00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,280
Speaker 1: Register since November eight. Now, according to this report by

119
00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,000
Speaker 1: the ABC, mister Richardson deregistered himself as a lobbyist for

120
00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,760
Speaker 1: Brookline Advisory on October twenty three. Tamboran, as we know,

121
00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,000
Speaker 1: has got a major stake in large scale gas export

122
00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,680
Speaker 1: projects in the Beaterloo Basin and the Middle Arm Industrial Precinct.

123
00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,080
Speaker 1: Mister Turner says in this statement, I've written to the

124
00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,560
Speaker 1: Aykak Commissioner urging him to consider investigating this matter and

125
00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,760
Speaker 1: to liaise with the Commissioner of Police if he deems appropriate. LEA,

126
00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,480
Speaker 1: do you think that needs to happen?

127
00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, clearly there are answers. There are questions that people

128
00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,520
Speaker 3: have that aren't being answered. So of course we had

129
00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,440
Speaker 3: the Shares saga, and now we've got this connection with

130
00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,039
Speaker 3: a senior advisor in the Chief Minister's office and it

131
00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,000
Speaker 3: just continues to reinforce him people's mind, this issue of integrity,

132
00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,920
Speaker 3: the fact that Natasha Files has got form in misleading

133
00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,800
Speaker 3: territorians around a range of issues. You think back to

134
00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,640
Speaker 3: the floods earlier this year and the flood victims being

135
00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,239
Speaker 3: at Howard Springs and the Chief Minister trying for weeks

136
00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,520
Speaker 3: to tell territories that was just wear and tear. You've

137
00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,000
Speaker 3: got the issue of the Order to General finding Natasha

138
00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,680
Speaker 3: File's guilty on two counts of misleading territorians when it

139
00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,960
Speaker 3: came to their bail reform. So all of these issues

140
00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,520
Speaker 3: just continue to reinforce that labor can't be trusted, that

141
00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,920
Speaker 3: they're willing to say and do anything to save faith

142
00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,600
Speaker 3: and to manage the optics around what they're doing as

143
00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,280
Speaker 3: a government. But these are serious issues which now the

144
00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,040
Speaker 3: Aykak will have to take into consideration.

145
00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, should you guys, should the opposition have referred

146
00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,800
Speaker 1: this to the Iyekak.

147
00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,480
Speaker 3: Well, we've been raising questions about the Chief Minister's integrity

148
00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,120
Speaker 3: for a very long time on.

149
00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,120
Speaker 1: This issue, like on the shares issue and also on

150
00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,840
Speaker 1: the issue with Jared Richardson and that consultancy.

151
00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,440
Speaker 3: Well, clearly Mirke Turner has felt that that's where he

152
00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,400
Speaker 3: sees the issue having to go and now that it's there,

153
00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,640
Speaker 3: that will take its course.

154
00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,880
Speaker 2: Is it where you see the issue though, going?

155
00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,600
Speaker 3: Well, we see this as an integrity issue, a clear

156
00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,240
Speaker 3: integrity issue which the Chief Minister and her cabinet have

157
00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,400
Speaker 3: failed to respond to, and we believe that Territorians are

158
00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,840
Speaker 3: at the point where they would judge them on these issues. Accordingly,

159
00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,720
Speaker 3: we're less than nine months out from an election, Katie,

160
00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000
Speaker 3: and if Labor are going to continue to treat Territorians

161
00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,360
Speaker 3: like fools, they'll be the ones who have to answer

162
00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,800
Speaker 3: to that at the ballot box.

163
00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:40,840
Speaker 2: Do you reckon?

164
00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like just sort of looking at

165
00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,480
Speaker 1: this from a different perspective, but looking at the fact

166
00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,120
Speaker 1: that they've got this consultancy firm that is helping the

167
00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,080
Speaker 1: government with various different things, I'm not sure exactly what

168
00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm assuming, and I guess this is a question that

169
00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,800
Speaker 1: I've got. Well, I wonder whether they're being paid by

170
00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,560
Speaker 1: the Labor Party or whether he is a consultancy firm

171
00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,720
Speaker 1: that's being paid by the Northern Territory taxpayer dollar.

172
00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,320
Speaker 3: Oh well, I don't know the answer to that, Katie.

173
00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,319
Speaker 2: What do you think is appropriate?

174
00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,240
Speaker 1: Do you think it is appropriate if it is the

175
00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,280
Speaker 1: taxpayer paying for the consultancy firm.

176
00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,959
Speaker 3: Well, my understanding is that it was. But you've raised

177
00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,000
Speaker 3: a really good question. I don't know the answer to that,

178
00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,000
Speaker 3: and it's a good one to put to the Chief Minister.

179
00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,920
Speaker 3: I think a lot of this gas issue that we're

180
00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,640
Speaker 3: talking about as well comes back to the fact that

181
00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,360
Speaker 3: labor are actually split.

182
00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:31,760
Speaker 2: On this issue.

183
00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,600
Speaker 3: You've got an enormous opportunity here in the territory to

184
00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:41,360
Speaker 3: have a really a much cleaner renewable not renewable, but

185
00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,199
Speaker 3: a much cleaner energy source, which will of course provide

186
00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,640
Speaker 3: that underpinning for our renewable sector, and yet you have

187
00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,480
Speaker 3: a labor party not supporting it. Then you've got the

188
00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,680
Speaker 3: Labor government trying to create optics like they do support

189
00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,480
Speaker 3: the industry, despite the fact that all of their actions

190
00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,360
Speaker 3: have been to the contrary. So I think this place

191
00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,280
Speaker 3: is part of a much bigger picture where you've clearly

192
00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:08,160
Speaker 3: got labor members unhappy with the arrangement with mister Richardson.

193
00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,160
Speaker 3: You've got a conflicted Chief Minister who is predominantly from

194
00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,719
Speaker 3: a Green seat, and then you've got overarching the importance

195
00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,040
Speaker 3: of this overarching government policy to grow our economy. So

196
00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,840
Speaker 3: I think this is part of a much bigger picture

197
00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,439
Speaker 3: which labor are desperately trying to manage and absolutely failing out.

198
00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,360
Speaker 1: All right, Lea, We had planned to have you on

199
00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,680
Speaker 1: to talk about a raft of other things, but obviously

200
00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,280
Speaker 1: this news all just sort of breaking this morning. I

201
00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,560
Speaker 1: do want to ask you though, we know that the

202
00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,520
Speaker 1: first day of the takeaway hours at bottle shops being reduced,

203
00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,040
Speaker 1: well that happened on Monday. Have I mean, what has

204
00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,120
Speaker 1: been your take Have you spoken to anyone in those

205
00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,440
Speaker 1: bottle shops or industry in recent days and what are

206
00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,320
Speaker 1: they saying to you?

207
00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,000
Speaker 3: Well, I know the golf clubs are pretty upset, and

208
00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,760
Speaker 3: of course coming into Christmas, people have got a lot

209
00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,920
Speaker 3: more time they might have been wanting to go out

210
00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,040
Speaker 3: and play with their friends and they can't even get

211
00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,360
Speaker 3: takeaway from the Gold Club right going out onto the course,

212
00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,760
Speaker 3: you know, So it's just ridiculous things like that. You know,

213
00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,880
Speaker 3: if there's four friends wanting to grab a stick pack

214
00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,480
Speaker 3: each and hit the golf course for eighteen holes, spend

215
00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,080
Speaker 3: most of the day out there. They're not going to

216
00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,440
Speaker 3: be driving back at twelve o'clock to come you meet

217
00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,440
Speaker 3: these times. I mean, it's just practically ridiculous. We know

218
00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,240
Speaker 3: the real people who are going to lose other workers.

219
00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,960
Speaker 3: I mean they've lost twelve hours a week in shifts

220
00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,120
Speaker 3: at a time when cost of living is through the

221
00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,920
Speaker 3: roof Christmas adds a massive dent to everyone's wallet's Katie,

222
00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,360
Speaker 3: and it's not going to drive down alcohol fuel harm.

223
00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a game the government targeting the

224
00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,000
Speaker 3: wrong people. This is about punishing everyone instead of dealing

225
00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,800
Speaker 3: with problem alcoholics. And that's why the Colp's plan couldn't

226
00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,280
Speaker 3: be more different. We're about focusing on alcohol fueled violence,

227
00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,360
Speaker 3: getting to the bottom of people's demand for alcohol, and

228
00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,360
Speaker 3: that's why mandatory treatment and measures like providing our police

229
00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,440
Speaker 3: greater power to deal with public drinking are an important

230
00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,200
Speaker 3: part of our plan.

231
00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,800
Speaker 2: God, just another quick one before I let you go.

232
00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,079
Speaker 1: I know that the opposition has come out pretty hard

233
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,800
Speaker 1: on the Northern Territory government regarding you know, this co

234
00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,720
Speaker 1: responder model that they've announced for both Alice Springs and

235
00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,720
Speaker 1: also Darwin when it comes to territory families workers then

236
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,200
Speaker 1: being able to well being on twenty four to seven,

237
00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,000
Speaker 1: I know that you guys are really questioning where the

238
00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,240
Speaker 1: staff are coming from.

239
00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,559
Speaker 2: Why are you concerned about that? Have we got a

240
00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,560
Speaker 2: shortage of staff?

241
00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,800
Speaker 3: This is again an integrity issue for this government. You've

242
00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,720
Speaker 3: got Brent Potter, the new police Minister, coming out talking

243
00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,840
Speaker 3: a big game, saying the things that Territorians want to hear,

244
00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,240
Speaker 3: when he knows full well he can't deliver them. So

245
00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,360
Speaker 3: first he promised that Territory Families would be there twenty

246
00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,320
Speaker 3: four to seven to support the youth justice response because

247
00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,800
Speaker 3: it's labor who took police's power away to deal with youth.

248
00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,040
Speaker 3: Now we find out that there is thirty percent reduction

249
00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,920
Speaker 3: in staff and Territory families they don't have the man

250
00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,760
Speaker 3: power they need to be able to provide the response.

251
00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,559
Speaker 3: The response is no longer going to be twenty four

252
00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,160
Speaker 3: to seven. So in a few short weeks he's proved

253
00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,920
Speaker 3: himself to not only be misleading territories, but that he's

254
00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,720
Speaker 3: willing to say and do anything to try and rewrite

255
00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,440
Speaker 3: history effectively. Katie, But this is a chronic issue. We're

256
00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,120
Speaker 3: yet to hear from the Territory Families Minister about how

257
00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,400
Speaker 3: they're going to support police, and it all comes back

258
00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,640
Speaker 3: to weak laws, a broken system, and a government that

259
00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,960
Speaker 3: continues to put the rights of offenders above the rights

260
00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,679
Speaker 3: of victims.

261
00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,640
Speaker 1: Lea f and Occhiaro, We are going to have to

262
00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,480
Speaker 1: leave it there. Thank you very much for your time

263
00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,880
Speaker 1: this morning, and i'd say we'll possibly talk to you

264
00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:41,720
Speaker 1: before Christmas.

265
00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm around. I'm working right through so I'll be

266
00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:46,600
Speaker 3: on whenever you want.

267
00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,920
Speaker 1: Katie, no worries it all. Thank you very much for

268
00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,520
Speaker 1: your time this morning. Much appreciated.

269
00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:51,360
Speaker 2: Thank you, pag