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Speaker 1: This is jem Nation with Jones.

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Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the Jonesy Demount of Arms

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Speaker 2: for the pub test today. Ties do they pass the

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Speaker 2: pub test?

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Speaker 3: Independent Senator David Pocock if it delivered his first speech

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Speaker 3: in Parliament. He's a former rugby champion, so he's got

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Speaker 3: a big neck.

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Speaker 2: But mister big shoulders, broad broad shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Beautifully dressed in a suit, but he didn't wear a tie.

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Speaker 3: Then incoming Green's MP Max Chandler Mayer took a similar approach,

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Speaker 3: beautifully dressed in a suit, no tie.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's about the body type. If you're

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Speaker 2: a big unit like David Pocock is, it's like John Cena.

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Speaker 2: When you see him in it, you know he wears

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Speaker 2: those three piece seats. At the time of the tie,

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Speaker 2: he looks like a hired goon.

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Speaker 3: So do you think if you've got a big neck

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Speaker 3: you don't wear a tie? But if you don't you can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're if you're a slight like

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Speaker 2: old mate from the Greens. Look, he's a slight sort

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Speaker 2: of guy. He just looks like he's not taking it seriously.

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Speaker 2: David Pocock, I think it suits him, not wearing a tie.

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Speaker 3: Well, it should be one rule for all then which

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Speaker 3: way you go. But there was a complaint from the

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Speaker 3: National MP Pat Canahan, saying this was a state of

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Speaker 3: undress and disrespectful. More and more people aren't wearing ties.

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Speaker 3: I guess part of this is the working from home thing.

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Speaker 3: People are more casual even when they come back to work.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel ties Do they pass the pub test?

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Speaker 4: I think they do. It's as a level of decora.

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Speaker 4: The dress code, the way you present yourself is help.

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Speaker 4: You can be in the workplace as well. If you

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Speaker 4: wear a woody in the workplace, people don't get that

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Speaker 4: you respect. But if you get dressed up in your

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Speaker 4: own personal brand, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think they You know, that's my autician saying what

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Speaker 1: he said. I'd rather they're not wear tie. If a

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Speaker 1: critical liars as well. Now, I don't think tis a problem.

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Speaker 1: I think they're people of the problems. They absolutely do.

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Speaker 1: When you're in the chamber, you wear a tie. When

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Speaker 1: you go and see a client. You wear a tie

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Speaker 1: when you're in your office or no problems. Take a

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Speaker 1: tie off where you or yours don't care. When you're

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Speaker 1: representing the country and your people then you wear a tie.

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Speaker 1: It's a matter of respect.

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Speaker 4: DENSI with David Pocock. I think he's got his big next,

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Speaker 4: so it doesn't look.

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Speaker 1: Good on him. Actually, unfortunately, I think he was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Call that he wasn't wearing one.

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Speaker 4: I think they do. A man looks very smart in

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Speaker 4: a tie and clothes, making the man true.

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Speaker 3: Top Cat he wore a tie but didn't wear pants.

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Speaker 2: Did he know he wore a tie and he had

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Speaker 2: come a vest? No, just a tie. He might have

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Speaker 2: had a vest and a hat, but no pants A top.

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Speaker 3: Cat, Yeah, maybe don't follow the clothing advice of top Cat.

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Speaker 2: He was hooked up with the cops and everything. He

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Speaker 2: had a lot of power.

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Speaker 3: He also lived in a phone booth.

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Speaker 2: Didn't He lived in a bin, but he had little

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Speaker 2: phone thing where he kept his toothbrush and and all

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Speaker 2: his all right, Brendon