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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation with the job we have here.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel, but I try and

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Speaker 2: be careful about humiliating my children. How about you probably

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Speaker 2: cares much.

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Speaker 3: I'm very mindful.

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Speaker 2: I know is when they were little, you could tell

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Speaker 2: any story about them. But once they became thinking human

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Speaker 2: beings and had a social life of their own and

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Speaker 2: went to school, it was hard.

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Speaker 4: Well, the problem is when someone they hear it third hand,

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Speaker 4: they don't actually hear it on the radio. So you

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Speaker 4: make some sort of joke and then someone will say, oh,

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Speaker 4: your dad said this other radio, so it sounds worse

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Speaker 4: when it gets reported back to them.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking of all that when I look at

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Speaker 2: Roxy Jasenko, who openly puts stuff about her kids on

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Speaker 2: her Instagram. Yes, she's put a thing here, and presumably

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Speaker 2: the children are complicit with that. She has a nine

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Speaker 2: year old son.

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Speaker 3: Well, kids are complicit because they're part of you. They're

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Speaker 3: your kid, they do what you want.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not true. You can put stuff on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Remember that time and I still regret it, where I

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Speaker 2: found a Jack's school bag had about ten sandwich just

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Speaker 2: squashed in the bottom, and I took them all out

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Speaker 2: and put them on the counter, and I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: I should put this on Instagram, and he said, oh,

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Speaker 2: please don't. So the next day I spoke about it

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Speaker 2: instead on radio and he was in the car with

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Speaker 2: Harley when I said it, and Harley said, his little

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Speaker 2: head just went when I say little head.

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Speaker 1: He was a teenager. But I felt bad at the

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Speaker 1: same time, no, no, no, there's no.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, at the same can I say

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Speaker 2: this though, when you are in the public eye, your

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Speaker 2: family still has a right to its privacy and the

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Speaker 2: house has to be a safe place, in a safe space.

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Speaker 4: There's got to be a specificity as well with what

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Speaker 4: you're doing. So he said no to Instagram, but he

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Speaker 4: didn't say no to radio.

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Speaker 1: So you do have to be mindful. But then a.

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Speaker 3: Big forgiveness that asked permission.

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Speaker 2: I looked at roxy Jasenko, who openly puts this stuff

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Speaker 2: on Instagram about her kids. She now lives in Singapore.

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Speaker 2: I've got no gripe against Roxy Jasenko. She can do

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Speaker 2: what she likes with in Singapore.

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Speaker 3: This is my theory. Tax break massive.

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Speaker 1: Well, her husband's working there, he's still.

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Speaker 4: Got a massive tax to you. Yeah, I know a

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Speaker 4: lot of people pilots and stuff that go over there.

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Speaker 1: Really and they get this massive tax You just like

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Speaker 1: saying massive tax breaks.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to get a massive tax break.

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Speaker 2: Well, she flew her professional eyebrows stylist, as says, Singapore

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Speaker 2: from Australia for her nine year old son, so her

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Speaker 2: nine year old son's eyebrows could be waxed and shaped,

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Speaker 2: and then she put that on Instagram. So everyone looks

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Speaker 2: at her son and goes, you know, there's a nine

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Speaker 2: year old with his eyebrows wax.

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Speaker 1: That's that's not good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he goes to school in Singapore.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't he Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we won't get

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Speaker 2: his head flashed to here is what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: And they've got those squat toilets, so they're very hard

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Speaker 3: to flash.

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Speaker 1: They don't have squat toilets. When did you last go

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Speaker 1: to Singapore?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, they are one of the most they are

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Speaker 1: one of the most modern.

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Speaker 3: They've got great toys, cities, squats and upstand up.

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Speaker 2: If you were a traveler in Singapore or you're going

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Speaker 2: to an international school, you're going to a shopping center,

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Speaker 2: you will not see a squat toilet.

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Speaker 3: You'll see there's special rooms for them. Well, if you

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Speaker 3: want to go old school, sure.

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Speaker 1: But also in the past, when her daughter was nine,

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Speaker 1: she bought.

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Speaker 2: Her a two hundred and seventy thousand dollars a Cedes

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Speaker 2: Benz and put that on Instagram. She put on Instagram

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Speaker 2: her daughter's Christmas list, or it might have her birthday list.

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Speaker 1: Who's her daughter? Has written this long.

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Speaker 2: List of birthday list shoes part one very specific, a

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Speaker 2: whole page of the shoes she wants, clothes part one

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Speaker 2: Alexander McQueen blah blah blah blah blah, and then shoes

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Speaker 2: part two, and she's put all that on Instagram. Then

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Speaker 2: she puts pictures of all their birthday presents all wrapped

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Speaker 2: up on I just think you've just you know, it's

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Speaker 2: one thing if you think that stuff's fun.

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Speaker 1: But your poor kids.

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Speaker 2: People go and have attitude about them. And she likes roxy,

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Speaker 2: I know, likes the attitude about herself.

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Speaker 1: And that's great.

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Speaker 2: She's a pr person, that's what she does for a living.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know how the kids feel about it.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's something that there'll be a toll

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Speaker 3: to be paid one day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if that toll to be paid. I

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Speaker 1: just you know, it just makes me uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: And here's you worried about rotting fruit and sandwiches in

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Speaker 4: your son's bag.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, I know.

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Speaker 2: But it's the same principle, is that he was embarrassed

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Speaker 2: that I'd make it public. That's the principle. Whether it's

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Speaker 2: about sandwiches in a bag, whether it's about getting expelled

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Speaker 2: from school, which didn't happen. But I'm saying it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter how big or how small. If they that should

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Speaker 2: be a safe space. But Roxy's thinking is different. Everything's fodder,

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Speaker 2: it's all content. Everything's content.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, someone's going to pay for that gathering.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough. I don't know what you mean by that.

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Speaker 3: Well, someone's going to pay for the gathering content in

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Speaker 3: the pace.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And this is in social that there are now

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Speaker 2: calls for influences to not use their kids. That's saying

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Speaker 2: that the kids have rights not to be dragged in

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Speaker 2: to your TikTok dances for you to get content. Brendan Dead,

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty