1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:15,189 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear More kids podcasts, playlists and listen. 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:19,829 Speaker 2: Live on the Free. I had a Paul, you shouldn't 3 00:00:19,829 --> 00:00:23,349 Speaker 2: be alive my friend. Why? 4 00:00:23,389 --> 00:00:29,549 Speaker 3: Probably for many many reasons, but the main one that 5 00:00:29,629 --> 00:00:34,188 Speaker 3: sticks out is because I was eaten alive by a 6 00:00:34,269 --> 00:00:36,348 Speaker 3: ten foot bull shark in Sydney Harbor. 7 00:00:36,589 --> 00:00:41,709 Speaker 4: Wooahly. WHOA way at work? 8 00:00:43,668 --> 00:00:46,508 Speaker 2: So what was work for you back then, Paul? 9 00:00:46,748 --> 00:00:51,748 Speaker 3: Back then I had transferred from Army Airborne into the 10 00:00:51,869 --> 00:00:53,349 Speaker 3: Navy Clearance diving branch. 11 00:00:53,668 --> 00:00:55,629 Speaker 2: Okay, So how many days have you been working in 12 00:00:55,629 --> 00:00:56,949 Speaker 2: the Navy before this happened. 13 00:00:57,349 --> 00:00:58,869 Speaker 4: I've been there a few years, Okay. 14 00:00:58,949 --> 00:01:01,429 Speaker 2: Okay, So had a few years in the Navy jumping out. 15 00:01:01,269 --> 00:01:03,789 Speaker 3: Of planes and being dirty and smelly, and the Australian 16 00:01:03,789 --> 00:01:05,548 Speaker 3: bush got a little old. So I thought I'd go 17 00:01:05,669 --> 00:01:09,189 Speaker 3: for a dip in the ocean. And you know that's 18 00:01:09,188 --> 00:01:11,069 Speaker 3: how that's how things turn out. 19 00:01:12,229 --> 00:01:13,429 Speaker 4: Okay, So decisions. 20 00:01:13,509 --> 00:01:16,149 Speaker 1: Let's go to that day. So why are you in 21 00:01:16,189 --> 00:01:18,189 Speaker 1: the water. What are you doing in the water on 22 00:01:18,189 --> 00:01:19,629 Speaker 1: this particular day, Paul. 23 00:01:20,829 --> 00:01:23,949 Speaker 3: Job of sleerance divers is quite broad and quite complex. 24 00:01:24,029 --> 00:01:28,389 Speaker 3: We do many many things, everything to do with the ocean, bombs, welding, 25 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:29,669 Speaker 3: cutting all. 26 00:01:29,349 --> 00:01:30,029 Speaker 4: Types of stuff. 27 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:33,069 Speaker 3: And that day all I was doing was pretending to 28 00:01:33,109 --> 00:01:36,509 Speaker 3: be an attack swimmer, and the R and D Department 29 00:01:36,549 --> 00:01:41,069 Speaker 3: of the Military were testing unmanned video and sonar so 30 00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:44,069 Speaker 3: that they could see if it would work basically, and 31 00:01:44,109 --> 00:01:46,029 Speaker 3: they could take that equipment all around the world, put 32 00:01:46,029 --> 00:01:47,509 Speaker 3: it on a wharf, put it on a ship, turn 33 00:01:47,549 --> 00:01:50,269 Speaker 3: it on walk away, and the unmanned video would detect 34 00:01:50,309 --> 00:01:54,229 Speaker 3: attack swimmers, and the unmanned sonar would detect attack divers. 35 00:01:54,709 --> 00:01:56,989 Speaker 3: And so there was a three part testing. We were 36 00:01:56,989 --> 00:01:58,709 Speaker 3: going to have attack swimmers, then we're going to have 37 00:01:58,749 --> 00:02:01,269 Speaker 3: attack divers on scuba, and then we're going to have 38 00:02:01,309 --> 00:02:04,749 Speaker 3: attack divers on O two rebreathers, so no bubbles. 39 00:02:05,309 --> 00:02:07,429 Speaker 4: We didn't really even get to phase two. 40 00:02:07,669 --> 00:02:11,309 Speaker 3: I had my new guy Lockie in the water for 41 00:02:11,349 --> 00:02:14,509 Speaker 3: the first half an hour. And you know, this is Frary, 42 00:02:14,749 --> 00:02:19,069 Speaker 3: February eleventh, two thousand and nine, early morning. We've been up, 43 00:02:19,109 --> 00:02:21,269 Speaker 3: we've been at work since four thirty. It's about six 44 00:02:21,389 --> 00:02:25,549 Speaker 3: thirty now, overcast, early morning, murky water, Sydney Harbor. You 45 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:28,189 Speaker 3: can see the Harbor Bridge, you can see Fort Dennison. 46 00:02:28,269 --> 00:02:31,228 Speaker 3: We're right alongside all the warships there, and I pulled 47 00:02:31,309 --> 00:02:32,749 Speaker 3: him out, pull the new guy out of the water 48 00:02:32,829 --> 00:02:34,589 Speaker 3: to give him a break, and I roll over the 49 00:02:34,629 --> 00:02:37,109 Speaker 3: side in my black wet suit pair of black fins, 50 00:02:37,269 --> 00:02:39,829 Speaker 3: and I'm just swimming from point A to point B 51 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:42,709 Speaker 3: and I got his massive whack in my leg, and 52 00:02:42,749 --> 00:02:44,989 Speaker 3: I was looking in the other direction to make sure 53 00:02:45,069 --> 00:02:47,469 Speaker 3: I was headed towards the bow of one of the warships. 54 00:02:47,789 --> 00:02:50,229 Speaker 3: I thought, it's massive whack in my leg and I 55 00:02:50,269 --> 00:02:52,549 Speaker 3: was like, whoa, what's that? And so maybe the guys 56 00:02:52,589 --> 00:02:54,788 Speaker 3: in the boat got a little bit too close and 57 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:58,829 Speaker 3: I turned around and a massive shark's head was attached 58 00:02:58,829 --> 00:02:59,029 Speaker 3: to me. 59 00:02:59,389 --> 00:03:01,709 Speaker 4: Oh, and I was pretty I was pretty scared. 60 00:03:01,909 --> 00:03:04,349 Speaker 2: So still it was it was on you. It was 61 00:03:04,389 --> 00:03:05,788 Speaker 2: it was latched onto your leg. 62 00:03:06,269 --> 00:03:09,789 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. It grabbed me by the back of my 63 00:03:09,989 --> 00:03:10,949 Speaker 4: right hand string. 64 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:14,389 Speaker 3: But because I had my hand by my side, and 65 00:03:14,469 --> 00:03:19,349 Speaker 3: it also captured my right hand, and so I'm thinking. 66 00:03:19,069 --> 00:03:20,789 Speaker 4: Okay, I've got to jab it in the eyeball to 67 00:03:20,789 --> 00:03:21,349 Speaker 4: get it off me. 68 00:03:21,629 --> 00:03:23,788 Speaker 3: But I couldn't fight back because it had my hand, 69 00:03:24,389 --> 00:03:26,029 Speaker 3: and so I tried with my left hand. 70 00:03:26,069 --> 00:03:29,189 Speaker 4: I couldn't reach the eyeball. I tried to push it 71 00:03:29,229 --> 00:03:29,589 Speaker 4: off me. 72 00:03:29,589 --> 00:03:31,389 Speaker 3: Then I thought I got to punch it in the nose, 73 00:03:31,909 --> 00:03:34,269 Speaker 3: but by the time I got around to there, the 74 00:03:34,269 --> 00:03:37,469 Speaker 3: shark had decided I was food and just started thrashing 75 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:41,869 Speaker 3: me and took me underwater. I was ripping out my 76 00:03:41,949 --> 00:03:45,829 Speaker 3: handstring and ripping off my hand and I'm just thinking 77 00:03:45,869 --> 00:03:47,829 Speaker 3: to myself, I'm so dead. 78 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:49,989 Speaker 4: I'm not going home today. 79 00:03:49,989 --> 00:03:52,949 Speaker 3: I'm going to actually die right now. 80 00:03:53,309 --> 00:03:56,949 Speaker 2: So okay, so you're getting threshed around. This shark is 81 00:03:56,989 --> 00:04:00,309 Speaker 2: pulling you underwater. I mean, like, how the hell. 82 00:04:00,109 --> 00:04:02,709 Speaker 1: Am I talking to you today, Paul, Like, how did 83 00:04:02,749 --> 00:04:04,269 Speaker 1: you eventually get away? 84 00:04:04,909 --> 00:04:07,549 Speaker 4: It removed my handstring and removed my. 85 00:04:07,629 --> 00:04:11,629 Speaker 3: Hand because it wasn't attached to me anymore while it 86 00:04:11,749 --> 00:04:15,109 Speaker 3: was swimming away and swallowing and hopefully choking to death. 87 00:04:15,749 --> 00:04:18,669 Speaker 3: I've hopped back to the surface because my wet suit 88 00:04:18,709 --> 00:04:21,629 Speaker 3: made me buoyant, and I see my safety boat. I 89 00:04:21,949 --> 00:04:23,669 Speaker 3: got to get out of here before it comes back. 90 00:04:23,709 --> 00:04:26,509 Speaker 3: You know, I'm thinking bull shark swimming packs and they 91 00:04:26,509 --> 00:04:29,509 Speaker 3: can smell a drop of blood in ten thousand leagues 92 00:04:29,549 --> 00:04:32,748 Speaker 3: of it. I'm probably bleeding a lot right now. So 93 00:04:33,149 --> 00:04:35,429 Speaker 3: I'm like, I can see my safety boat. They're coming 94 00:04:35,429 --> 00:04:38,509 Speaker 3: towards me. So I start swimming towards them, but I 95 00:04:38,549 --> 00:04:43,109 Speaker 3: can see my hand is gone. Oh. So one of 96 00:04:43,149 --> 00:04:45,589 Speaker 3: the reasons that I'm still alive is because of the 97 00:04:45,629 --> 00:04:48,549 Speaker 3: great training that I had in the Defense Force, in 98 00:04:48,589 --> 00:04:51,229 Speaker 3: the Army and the Navy, and so I knew that 99 00:04:51,309 --> 00:04:53,669 Speaker 3: I needed to hit that wound above my heart to 100 00:04:53,669 --> 00:04:57,229 Speaker 3: try and stem the bleeding. So I'm swimming one hand 101 00:04:57,229 --> 00:04:59,149 Speaker 3: out of the water above my head, trying to stop 102 00:04:59,189 --> 00:05:01,789 Speaker 3: the bleeding, not knowing while I'm swimming back to my boat, 103 00:05:01,829 --> 00:05:04,349 Speaker 3: I've got an arterial bleed out of my leg, and 104 00:05:04,389 --> 00:05:05,469 Speaker 3: I'm swimming through. 105 00:05:05,309 --> 00:05:09,989 Speaker 4: A pool of my own blood. 106 00:05:09,988 --> 00:05:11,869 Speaker 5: You've got one in your hand and one in your leg. 107 00:05:11,949 --> 00:05:15,308 Speaker 3: I don't really remember blood coming out of my hand, 108 00:05:15,629 --> 00:05:19,549 Speaker 3: it probably was, but just the main arterial bleed in 109 00:05:19,589 --> 00:05:22,428 Speaker 3: my leg. The guys in the safety boat said that 110 00:05:22,469 --> 00:05:24,949 Speaker 3: when they got in close, the blood. 111 00:05:24,709 --> 00:05:26,789 Speaker 4: Was so thick they could taste it in the air, 112 00:05:27,309 --> 00:05:27,869 Speaker 4: and by the. 113 00:05:27,869 --> 00:05:30,628 Speaker 3: Time by the time we got to the wharf, the 114 00:05:30,669 --> 00:05:32,229 Speaker 3: boat was an inch deep in my blood. 115 00:05:32,669 --> 00:05:35,268 Speaker 4: One of the guys, actually the new guy again lucky. 116 00:05:35,309 --> 00:05:38,029 Speaker 3: He had to stick his hand inside my leg and 117 00:05:38,149 --> 00:05:43,069 Speaker 3: pinch closed an artery with his feels. The surgeon said 118 00:05:43,069 --> 00:05:45,349 Speaker 3: that if he hadn't done that, I would have led 119 00:05:45,389 --> 00:05:47,349 Speaker 3: out and died within thirty seconds. 120 00:05:48,109 --> 00:05:50,909 Speaker 2: Is my sounding an obvious Christian Paul? But so, what's like? 121 00:05:51,309 --> 00:05:53,509 Speaker 2: Are you just in shock at this point? 122 00:05:53,589 --> 00:05:56,509 Speaker 1: You're looking you don't have a hand, you've got it, 123 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:58,469 Speaker 1: You're in an inch of your own blood. You've got 124 00:05:58,509 --> 00:06:02,269 Speaker 1: a guy sticking his hand in your leg, pinching. 125 00:06:02,589 --> 00:06:04,628 Speaker 3: I was cracking jokes because I didn't want the guys 126 00:06:04,629 --> 00:06:06,748 Speaker 3: to feel so too stressed out. 127 00:06:06,829 --> 00:06:09,389 Speaker 2: Really, is that a joke? Please tell me you were 128 00:06:09,389 --> 00:06:10,389 Speaker 2: cracking those jokes. 129 00:06:10,589 --> 00:06:13,308 Speaker 3: So they pulled me into the boat, and I just, 130 00:06:13,389 --> 00:06:17,389 Speaker 3: out of sheer relief of being not eaten anymore, I relaxed, 131 00:06:17,669 --> 00:06:19,629 Speaker 3: my eyes rolled back in my head, and I passed out. 132 00:06:19,749 --> 00:06:22,428 Speaker 3: My buddy Tomo springs into action. He pummels me in 133 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:25,229 Speaker 3: the chest, thinking I'm going into cardiac arrests. So it's 134 00:06:25,229 --> 00:06:27,229 Speaker 3: got to stimulate my heart and wake me back up. 135 00:06:27,269 --> 00:06:29,669 Speaker 3: And so that works. I wake up and I look 136 00:06:29,709 --> 00:06:32,789 Speaker 3: over and my hand's gone freshly ripped off by a shark. 137 00:06:33,149 --> 00:06:35,469 Speaker 3: And I look up and Tomo's beating the crap out 138 00:06:35,469 --> 00:06:38,709 Speaker 3: of me, and I just think today sucks. And so 139 00:06:39,789 --> 00:06:42,188 Speaker 3: I looked at Tomo and I said, mate, and you 140 00:06:42,229 --> 00:06:44,109 Speaker 3: make sure someone looks after my motorbike. 141 00:06:44,149 --> 00:06:46,389 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm going to be riding home this afternoon. 142 00:06:49,069 --> 00:06:54,748 Speaker 4: And he's like, shut up. I'm pretty much consciously this 143 00:06:54,829 --> 00:06:55,149 Speaker 4: whole thing. 144 00:06:55,189 --> 00:06:56,789 Speaker 3: They get me to the wharf and that's when the 145 00:06:56,789 --> 00:06:59,389 Speaker 3: pain kicks in and I don't really remember. I think 146 00:06:59,389 --> 00:07:01,429 Speaker 3: it was kind of the thing like your brain cancels 147 00:07:01,469 --> 00:07:04,829 Speaker 3: out memories of the really bad trauma. Yeah, but there 148 00:07:04,869 --> 00:07:09,029 Speaker 3: are people that turned up to that site, medic from 149 00:07:09,109 --> 00:07:11,909 Speaker 3: the base and stuff that have PTSD from seeing me 150 00:07:12,069 --> 00:07:17,149 Speaker 3: like that. Wow. Yes, in absolute agony, waiting for the 151 00:07:17,189 --> 00:07:21,469 Speaker 3: paramedics to get there, no paying drugs, just barely holding on. 152 00:07:21,829 --> 00:07:23,429 Speaker 2: Oh. 153 00:07:23,629 --> 00:07:26,949 Speaker 3: I ended up having to take a path of my leg. 154 00:07:27,349 --> 00:07:30,149 Speaker 3: What the surgeon did was he cut off my foot 155 00:07:30,309 --> 00:07:32,469 Speaker 3: and then he sliced open the back of my leg 156 00:07:32,669 --> 00:07:36,229 Speaker 3: from the shark bite at my knee near the hamstring 157 00:07:36,349 --> 00:07:39,389 Speaker 3: all the way down to my ankle, feld all that 158 00:07:39,589 --> 00:07:42,229 Speaker 3: flesh off the bone and took out the tib fib, 159 00:07:42,509 --> 00:07:44,909 Speaker 3: took out my knee joint, cut the condiles off the 160 00:07:44,989 --> 00:07:47,389 Speaker 3: end of my femur, and then took all that calf 161 00:07:47,469 --> 00:07:50,829 Speaker 3: muscle and folded it into where my hamstring used to be. Wow, 162 00:07:51,669 --> 00:07:54,749 Speaker 3: the weird part about that when I get an itchy foot, 163 00:07:54,749 --> 00:07:56,309 Speaker 3: I've got to scratch my bomb. 164 00:07:56,349 --> 00:08:02,269 Speaker 5: A very weird. 165 00:08:02,829 --> 00:08:05,749 Speaker 2: Hey, Paul, it is Shark Week. 166 00:08:05,789 --> 00:08:07,909 Speaker 5: You guys can stream watch Shark Week from Sunday tenth 167 00:08:07,949 --> 00:08:11,349 Speaker 5: of seven on Discovery in HBO. Max, I'm really interested 168 00:08:11,349 --> 00:08:14,349 Speaker 5: to know your relationship with sharks. 169 00:08:14,389 --> 00:08:19,709 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, it's vastly different. I used to hate sharks. 170 00:08:20,029 --> 00:08:23,909 Speaker 3: My two biggest fears in life were sharks and public speaking, 171 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:27,189 Speaker 3: and now I am a shark diving public speaker, which 172 00:08:27,349 --> 00:08:30,709 Speaker 3: just makes me think. You know, after my attack, I 173 00:08:30,789 --> 00:08:34,029 Speaker 3: never blamed the shark. It could have been any number 174 00:08:34,069 --> 00:08:36,588 Speaker 3: of dangerous things that I did in my job, in 175 00:08:36,588 --> 00:08:38,869 Speaker 3: my life. At least that way, I got a cool 176 00:08:38,909 --> 00:08:41,429 Speaker 3: story about it. And it was just a shark out 177 00:08:41,429 --> 00:08:43,749 Speaker 3: there doing sharky stuff. It wasn't its fault. And so, 178 00:08:44,029 --> 00:08:46,669 Speaker 3: you know, every time there was another shark byer attack 179 00:08:46,828 --> 00:08:48,828 Speaker 3: across the share, the media would come to me for 180 00:08:49,468 --> 00:08:52,788 Speaker 3: an opinion, well, why did the shark attack this? Like, apparently, 181 00:08:53,108 --> 00:08:55,429 Speaker 3: now that I've been bitten, I'm the shark expert, so 182 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:59,508 Speaker 3: I wanted to give an educated opinion instead of just 183 00:08:59,588 --> 00:09:01,668 Speaker 3: an opinion, and make myself look stupid. Say, you know, 184 00:09:01,669 --> 00:09:04,389 Speaker 3: there's an old adage knowledge to spells fear. And so 185 00:09:04,508 --> 00:09:07,468 Speaker 3: the more I read and learned about sharks, the more 186 00:09:07,549 --> 00:09:10,949 Speaker 3: I realized how little we actually do have to fear 187 00:09:10,949 --> 00:09:14,029 Speaker 3: from them, but how much they have to fear from us. 188 00:09:14,309 --> 00:09:16,949 Speaker 3: And so, you know, everyone we love the underdog as 189 00:09:16,949 --> 00:09:20,029 Speaker 3: Ossie's and we've got all these dangerous animals. We do 190 00:09:20,069 --> 00:09:22,069 Speaker 3: take pride in them, but I feel like we've given 191 00:09:22,108 --> 00:09:23,749 Speaker 3: them a bit of a rough trot. We've got the 192 00:09:23,748 --> 00:09:26,108 Speaker 3: shark nets out there, we've got the drum lines out there. 193 00:09:26,189 --> 00:09:28,668 Speaker 3: Let's protect the sharks instead of killing them just because 194 00:09:28,708 --> 00:09:29,468 Speaker 3: they're sharks. 195 00:09:29,748 --> 00:09:30,869 Speaker 5: I think that's a great point, mate. 196 00:09:30,909 --> 00:09:32,028 Speaker 2: I mean, you were the first. 197 00:09:32,228 --> 00:09:34,148 Speaker 5: You were the first shark digg in Sydney Harbor in 198 00:09:34,789 --> 00:09:36,148 Speaker 5: sixty years. 199 00:09:36,069 --> 00:09:39,028 Speaker 2: Or something like that. And if you think about the number. 200 00:09:38,828 --> 00:09:41,428 Speaker 5: Of bull sharks that actually in Sydney Harbor and the 201 00:09:41,468 --> 00:09:43,749 Speaker 5: amount of people that actually go in there all the time, 202 00:09:44,029 --> 00:09:44,868 Speaker 5: it's pretty amazing. 203 00:09:45,789 --> 00:09:47,669 Speaker 3: I finally that this hasn't been any tracking of them 204 00:09:47,708 --> 00:09:51,309 Speaker 3: in quite a long time. DPI hasn't been tracking them 205 00:09:51,348 --> 00:09:54,228 Speaker 3: for probably six or seven years. And I went and 206 00:09:54,268 --> 00:09:56,989 Speaker 3: shot a documentary last year with Breakout Productions and Colin 207 00:09:57,069 --> 00:09:59,748 Speaker 3: throw up about bull sharks in Sydney Harbor and we. 208 00:10:00,029 --> 00:10:03,389 Speaker 4: We couldn't find any of them. I can see a 209 00:10:03,429 --> 00:10:05,549 Speaker 4: photo of shme and we're fishing. 210 00:10:06,309 --> 00:10:09,189 Speaker 5: They didn't come there everywhere looking I'm looking at a 211 00:10:09,189 --> 00:10:12,389 Speaker 5: photo of you with a shark at the moment, underwater, 212 00:10:12,988 --> 00:10:15,669 Speaker 5: petting a ball shark, So it feels like you've really 213 00:10:15,828 --> 00:10:16,789 Speaker 5: it's quite incredible. 214 00:10:16,789 --> 00:10:16,989 Speaker 4: Man. 215 00:10:17,429 --> 00:10:19,629 Speaker 1: Did it take a while to get there though, Paul, like, 216 00:10:19,669 --> 00:10:22,708 Speaker 1: surely was there a period there after the attack where 217 00:10:23,069 --> 00:10:26,029 Speaker 1: we're surely even going in the water was too scary. 218 00:10:27,149 --> 00:10:30,309 Speaker 3: Now going in the water was fine as a clearance diver, 219 00:10:30,508 --> 00:10:31,789 Speaker 3: you know, I was out of the water for three 220 00:10:31,828 --> 00:10:34,268 Speaker 3: months and that's a long time for a diver. So 221 00:10:34,388 --> 00:10:36,789 Speaker 3: as soon as my stitches and staples were out, I 222 00:10:36,868 --> 00:10:38,949 Speaker 3: was down at Bondi with two of my mates trying 223 00:10:38,949 --> 00:10:42,748 Speaker 3: to surf on one leg. Didn't didn't really go that well, 224 00:10:42,789 --> 00:10:45,429 Speaker 3: but you know, prattle around. 225 00:10:45,228 --> 00:10:46,309 Speaker 4: In a circle a little bit. 226 00:10:46,388 --> 00:10:50,708 Speaker 3: But it was just so nice to me back, and like, 227 00:10:50,828 --> 00:10:53,509 Speaker 3: I think it's one of the most the most special 228 00:10:53,549 --> 00:10:55,749 Speaker 3: things that we can have in this world is to 229 00:10:55,789 --> 00:10:59,588 Speaker 3: be absolutely submerged and contained by nature in the ocean 230 00:10:59,628 --> 00:11:02,509 Speaker 3: and it has such a healing properties as I was 231 00:11:02,588 --> 00:11:04,949 Speaker 3: just straight back down there. But the shark thing came 232 00:11:05,029 --> 00:11:06,869 Speaker 3: way later. I didn't I didn't want anything to do 233 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:08,788 Speaker 3: with them. I just wanted to try and keep my 234 00:11:08,909 --> 00:11:11,668 Speaker 3: career in the Navy, and so all my energy was 235 00:11:11,708 --> 00:11:14,669 Speaker 3: focused on that. But sixty minutes and my buddy Pete 236 00:11:14,708 --> 00:11:15,748 Speaker 3: over and comes along and. 237 00:11:15,708 --> 00:11:17,108 Speaker 4: A Paul, let's do a show. 238 00:11:17,669 --> 00:11:19,348 Speaker 3: And so all of a sudden, he's got me in 239 00:11:19,429 --> 00:11:22,149 Speaker 3: the He's got me in the Sydney Aquarium diving with 240 00:11:22,268 --> 00:11:25,108 Speaker 3: the gray nurse sharks, and I was much more comfortable 241 00:11:25,108 --> 00:11:28,189 Speaker 3: looking at their tail than their face. And two years later, 242 00:11:28,268 --> 00:11:30,189 Speaker 3: I'm back of work, I'm in the Navy and along 243 00:11:30,228 --> 00:11:32,669 Speaker 3: comes my body Peter over, and he goes, hey, Paul, 244 00:11:33,268 --> 00:11:35,148 Speaker 3: we want to go to Fiji and we want to 245 00:11:35,189 --> 00:11:37,269 Speaker 3: get you to dive with bull sharks. 246 00:11:37,309 --> 00:11:40,228 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, free, trick to fig with you, Pete. 247 00:11:40,268 --> 00:11:41,588 Speaker 4: No dramas. 248 00:11:42,949 --> 00:11:44,949 Speaker 3: And then on the very last day of the very 249 00:11:45,069 --> 00:11:47,388 Speaker 3: last dive, I've been watching these guys see the sharks, 250 00:11:47,388 --> 00:11:49,189 Speaker 3: and I looked at the guy running and I was. 251 00:11:49,189 --> 00:11:50,949 Speaker 4: Like, what do you reckon? Any goes go through it, 252 00:11:51,309 --> 00:11:53,468 Speaker 4: and so I grabbed the fish head and I held 253 00:11:53,468 --> 00:11:54,509 Speaker 4: it out a. 254 00:11:54,388 --> 00:11:57,468 Speaker 3: Massive bullshark like Fiji's bullsharks, the biggest sharks I've ever 255 00:11:57,468 --> 00:12:00,108 Speaker 3: seen in my life, biggest bull sharks. And so the 256 00:12:00,149 --> 00:12:02,069 Speaker 3: sharks coming in and I'm ready to go, and I 257 00:12:02,149 --> 00:12:04,229 Speaker 3: let go of it a little bit early, and the 258 00:12:04,309 --> 00:12:06,828 Speaker 3: current takes it and washes it straight into the lap 259 00:12:06,868 --> 00:12:07,588 Speaker 3: of the cameraman. 260 00:12:10,669 --> 00:12:12,908 Speaker 4: It's pretty good. One more go, one more go, one 261 00:12:12,909 --> 00:12:14,468 Speaker 4: more go, and so I do it again and I 262 00:12:14,588 --> 00:12:17,069 Speaker 4: seed the bullshark. I'm just like after that, I was addicted. 263 00:12:17,108 --> 00:12:23,588 Speaker 3: I was like, you can hand feed bullsharks with by 264 00:12:23,708 --> 00:12:24,949 Speaker 3: hand and not with a hand. 265 00:12:25,069 --> 00:12:28,029 Speaker 4: That's such a nice change. 266 00:12:29,348 --> 00:12:31,748 Speaker 2: That's great, mate, It's such a good attitude. It's an 267 00:12:31,748 --> 00:12:33,868 Speaker 2: extraordinary story. It's been such a treat mate. 268 00:12:33,868 --> 00:12:36,349 Speaker 4: In your Paul, are you two guys? 269 00:12:36,828 --> 00:12:41,228 Speaker 5: Thanks so much, Paul. That was absolutely, absolutely fascinating. As 270 00:12:41,228 --> 00:12:43,268 Speaker 5: I was saying. You can stream watch Shark Week Sunday, 271 00:12:43,309 --> 00:12:45,868 Speaker 5: tenth of August seven thirty on Discovery. 272 00:12:45,628 --> 00:12:47,468 Speaker 2: And HBO Max Pull Together. 273 00:12:47,508 --> 00:12:49,908 Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us here on Willim Woddy 274 00:12:50,228 --> 00:12:51,549 Speaker 4: My pleasure fellows, have a good one.