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Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio as she does most

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Speaker 1: Tuesday mornings. It is the opposition leader Leofanocchiaro. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Leaving Katie and you're wonderful Listenersnalia.

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Speaker 1: We have just finished that interview with the Federal Treasurer

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Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers. It doesn't sound as though he's going to

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Speaker 1: be moving things towards a needs based funding model when

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Speaker 1: it comes to domestic violence. What do you make of that?

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Speaker 2: I think the treasurer is visit this week really is

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Speaker 2: just another example of the federal government having to tell

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Speaker 2: Natasha Files and labor how to do their job. He

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Speaker 2: should be arriving with two hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 2: which the Prime Minister promised to Alice Springs six months ago, Katie,

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Speaker 2: So to come up empty handed with money that we're

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Speaker 2: entitled to is a huge disappointment and it shows that

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Speaker 2: Natasha Files isn't out there fighting for the territory and

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Speaker 2: we continue to go backwards.

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Speaker 1: Lea, do you think that we do need to move

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Speaker 1: to needs based funding when it comes to domestic violence?

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Speaker 1: I mean, even right now, we know that the coronial

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Speaker 1: inquest into the deaths of four women is currently underway

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Speaker 1: in the nor Than territory, some absolutely tragic detail emerging

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Speaker 1: from that. But do you think we do need to

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Speaker 1: move to needs based funding? It is it's obvious that

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Speaker 1: we've got a really serious issue with domestic violence.

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Speaker 2: Well, needs based funding is something the territory champions irrespective

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Speaker 2: of political stripes, Kadie, and it's an issue not just

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Speaker 2: in that domestic violence space, but of course in education

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Speaker 2: as well and other areas. But this is something that

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Speaker 2: the territory government really need to be focused on. They've

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Speaker 2: got their labor mates in Canberra now and so you know,

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Speaker 2: are they able to actually leverage that relationship or not

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Speaker 2: I think is the major question. And they've failed at

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Speaker 2: the first hurdle, which is coming in and promising Alice

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Speaker 2: brings two hundred and fifty million dollars and coming up

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Speaker 2: with zero dollars of that, you know, six months later.

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Speaker 2: So it's not a good track record for territory labor now.

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Speaker 1: Another concern right now is obviously accommodation for international students,

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Speaker 1: but student accommodation more generally. Again, that's something that we'd

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Speaker 1: asked the Federal Treasurer about. Is there going to be

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Speaker 1: any kind of an ouncement is going to be any

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Speaker 1: sort of movement in this space in terms of trying

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Speaker 1: to really to boost that accommodation for students in the territory.

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Speaker 1: At CDU, what do you think needs to happen.

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Speaker 2: Here, Well, we've got seven hundred international students imminently arriving

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Speaker 2: and there's nowhere for them to live. I mean CDU

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Speaker 2: have literally asked territorians to open their spare bedrooms. This

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Speaker 2: is a government that is telling territories it's expecting another

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Speaker 2: two thy nine hundred this financial year. They haven't planned,

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Speaker 2: they haven't done the work that's required to support international

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Speaker 2: student growth across the territory. And of course we're going

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Speaker 2: to have a brand new university campus built and the

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Speaker 2: Chancellor himself has said that there's going to be an

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Speaker 2: eighteen to two year lag time on accommodation for students

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Speaker 2: who will actually be attending that facility. So this is

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Speaker 2: once again a government that doesn't have a plan, hasn't

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Speaker 2: properly done the work required to make sure that we've

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Speaker 2: got the housing available, and it's our economy that's going

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Speaker 2: to suffer for that. Now.

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Speaker 1: I know that you've obviously spoken about the need to

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Speaker 1: convert some of that commercial property that we've got around

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory to be able to use be used

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Speaker 1: for residential accommodation. How quickly, though, do you think that

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Speaker 1: we really need to get something like this happening? I mean,

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Speaker 1: at the moment, we know that Scott Bowman had said

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Speaker 1: if people have got spare rooms, if they've got somewhere

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Speaker 1: like a groaning flat where people can stay. But this

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Speaker 1: is a pretty like this is actually pretty urgent. Seven

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Speaker 2: It's extremely urgent, and we want to activate our CBD,

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Speaker 2: which will help drive down crime, it will put more

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Speaker 2: dollars into businesses in our city, and yet we don't

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Speaker 2: have anywhere for them to live because labor haven't done

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Speaker 2: the hard work. So we said that there should be

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Speaker 2: a guideline in place, much like South Australia, which gives

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Speaker 2: which is around seventeen percent, that they can then you know,

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Speaker 2: those developers can then have the opportunity to convert those

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Speaker 1: Still reckons that that's already able to happen.

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Speaker 2: Said the same, Yeah, it's absolutely rubbish. There's currently the

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Speaker 2: normal planning process which is very cumbersome and very uncertain,

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Speaker 2: and of course industry and business needs certainty at this time.

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Speaker 2: By having a guideline, it means that people who own

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Speaker 2: will be. So this is again just more spin from

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Speaker 2: labor who want to deflect from the fact that they

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Speaker 2: have not planned properly for accommodation for international students.

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Speaker 1: So you reckon they need to scrap the normal planning

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Speaker 1: process and move things along much more urgently.

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Speaker 2: There can be a separate set of guidelines for temporary

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Speaker 2: conversion of commercial space in the CBD for this purpose.

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Speaker 2: There is nothing stopping the government from doing that, and

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Speaker 2: Adelaide and South Australia have done that deliberately to make

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Speaker 2: it easier and more cost effective to feel that really

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Speaker 2: important gap that we have because this government hasn't done

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Speaker 2: the whole homework and Ultimately, with seven hundred people arriving

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Speaker 2: to put another twenty nine hundred. It's just not possible.

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Speaker 2: Their numbers are rubbery. They haven't got a plan. And

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Speaker 2: again it's our economy that suffers, which means that's less

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Speaker 1: All Right, I want to talk about a story from

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Speaker 1: the ABC on the weekend reporting that two Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: government MLAs had charged taxpayers more than three thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: in private interstate travel this year. It is thanks to

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Speaker 1: well it was over last year and this year thanks

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Speaker 1: to a fuel card entitlement. It's really fired up our listeners.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of people getting in contact yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So the fuel disclosure records show back Bench MLA Duran

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Speaker 1: Young spent more than seven thousand dollars in fuel purchases

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Speaker 1: over a four month period from December twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Now there's been quite a few people in contact saying Katie,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars in four months is obscene of this.

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Speaker 1: More than two and a half thousand dollars was spent

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Speaker 1: on private travel in New South Wales and Queensland. Now.

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Speaker 1: The records also show that the Northern Territory is Attorney

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Speaker 1: General Chancey Paig racked up more than seven hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: Lea is the colp going to write to the tribunal

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Speaker 1: saying that you think there needs to be some changes

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Speaker 1: General or somebody to look into this what needs to happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, my understanding, this decision sits squarely with the Speaker.

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Speaker 2: He's made the call that Territory labor members of Parliament

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Speaker 2: can have taxpayer funded holidays. I mean, this is at

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Speaker 1: The Northern Territory Government said that they gave me a

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Speaker 1: statement yesterday from a Northern Territory Government spokesperson saying the

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Speaker 1: renumeration Tribunal is an independent body that sets the entitlements

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Speaker 1: for all members of the Legislative Assembly. Vehicles are provided

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Speaker 1: to members of the Legislative Assembly for primary for parliamentary business,

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Speaker 1: electric use, and private use. Members who opt to not

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Speaker 1: receive an authern territory government vehicle are given a financial

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Speaker 1: entitlement that they can use instead. The entitlement varies for

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Speaker 1: different electorates, and additional entitlement for allowances and expenses for

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Speaker 1: six and seven of that determination. LEA, from your understanding

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Speaker 1: as an elected member, are you allowed to use a

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Speaker 2: That was not my understanding. We had no notification of that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is actually written in the RTDKD.

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Speaker 2: I believe from estimates and I can go back and

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Speaker 2: check that it's actually through a speaker's determination that that

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Speaker 2: check that spective of it. Whether you can or can't,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't. Just because you can do something does not

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to point out as well, my understanding

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Speaker 2: This is not for you personally. It's taxpayer funded personal holidays.

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Speaker 2: And this is a government that has a track record

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Speaker 2: of poorly spending taxpayers dollars. They have no respect for it.

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Speaker 2: We've got a ten billion dollar debt, we've got a

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Speaker 2: cost of living crisis they haven't dealt with, and now

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Speaker 2: we've got Labor members of Parliament spending taxpayers dollars going

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Speaker 1: I think at the very least listeners expect that this

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Speaker 1: isn't going to happen again. So what can you do

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Speaker 1: ensure that it doesn't happen again? Are you able to

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Speaker 1: write to the Renumeration Tribunal? What are you able to do?

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Speaker 2: Look, we can certainly make submissions to the tribunal, but

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Speaker 2: ultimately this is about members of Parliament having integrity and

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Speaker 2: I can't fix Labour's integrity crisis. But it's shown not

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Speaker 2: used taxpayer dollars to pay for their personal fuel while

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Speaker 2: There is no question in my mind that that money

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Speaker 2: or any other standard of integrity. And again at a

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Speaker 2: time when cost of living is crippling territorians and fuel

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Speaker 2: is through the roof, we've got Labor members of Parliament

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Speaker 2: getting taxpayers to pick up the tab. It's not okay.

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Speaker 2: It should never have happened and they should pay it

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Speaker 2: back immediately.

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Speaker 1: So are you calling on the on both of those

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Speaker 1: pay that money.

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Speaker 2: They pay that money back. It's not your money. And

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Speaker 2: this is what Labor doesn't understand. Taxpayers dollars are from

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Speaker 2: the taxpayer. They are not Labour's money to spend.

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Speaker 1: What if it falls under the entitlements? What if it

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Speaker 1: is a situation where even you can travel into state

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Speaker 2: I just don't think it matters. I think just because

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Speaker 2: you can do something doesn't mean you should. And there

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Speaker 2: is no way on earth that any person in the

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory thinks it's okay for a member of Parliament

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Speaker 2: to travel into state on the public perse. It's just

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Speaker 2: not okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, and for full disclosure, we have certainly put in

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Speaker 1: a couple of requests to have the member for Daily

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Speaker 1: on the show. Duran Young Chrystal my producer working on that,

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Speaker 1: so hopefully at some point throughout this week we are

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Speaker 1: able to get him on the show. And we know

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Speaker 1: that it is also those records showing that the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territories Attorney General Chancey Paike also wrapped up more than

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Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars in fuel costs on private travel driving

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Speaker 1: between Adelaide and the Northern Territory. Leah, can you guarantee

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Speaker 1: that none of the members of the COLP have done

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Speaker 1: anything dodgy with their fuel.

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Speaker 2: Custs one hundred percent, Katie, And we never would because

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Speaker 2: we have respect for taxpayers dollars and ultimately would never

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Speaker 2: charge taxpayers to go on a holiday.

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Speaker 1: All right, just very quickly before we wrap up this morning.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we spoke pretty extensively to Marie Claire Boothby, your

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Speaker 1: spokesperson for Tourism, around the comments that have been made

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Speaker 1: by Alan Joyce, the CEO of Quantus, about the impact

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Speaker 1: that crime is having in Alice Springs, and various other

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Speaker 1: comments that were made. I understand that you have written

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Speaker 1: now to the Chief Minister or the colp's written to

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Speaker 1: the Chief Minister on this topic yes now.

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Speaker 2: Mary Claire Boothby wrote to the Chief Minister yesterday saying

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Speaker 2: that Conners are way out of line, not only with

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Speaker 2: their flight prices but of course with their comments essentially

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Speaker 2: blaming tour operators in Alice Springs for what is a crime,

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Speaker 2: crisis of labours making. And the Chief Minister passed the buck.

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Speaker 2: She said that was not her responsibility and flicked it

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Speaker 2: over to Nicole Manison, the Tourism Minister, and again, how

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Speaker 2: many other areas of responsibility ken Natasha files shirk off

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Speaker 2: to other ministers. She's not responsible for crime according to

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Speaker 2: her in estimates. Now she's not responsible for tourism. As

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister, she should be standing up for territorians and

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Speaker 2: our tourism operators because this is a huge blow to them.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so proud of Mary Clare Boothby. She walked

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Speaker 2: up to Alan Joyce and the Chairman of Quantis and

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Speaker 2: said flight prices are unacceptably high. We are watching you.

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Speaker 2: You've got to do better, and ultimately did the job

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Speaker 2: that the government should be doing.

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Speaker 1: I mean to play devil's advocate here, though surely the

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister can rely on her ministers who are responsible

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Speaker 1: for various portfolios to actually to answer to those portfolios.

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Speaker 2: Where is Natasha Files or any labor minister or member

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Speaker 2: condemning the comments and backing in our tourist industry. We

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Speaker 2: have heard nothing. They are silent and under them, the

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Speaker 2: territory continues to go backwards because they don't have fight,

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Speaker 2: they don't have the passion, They're not doing their job

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Speaker 2: and ultimately the territory and territorians are the ones who suffer.

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Speaker 1: Lea Finocchiaro, the opposition leader, we are going to have

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Speaker 1: to leave it there. Thanks very much for your time,

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Speaker 1: Take care everyone. Thank you,