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Speaker 1: Well, the federal budget was handed down last night and

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Speaker 1: me on the line is the Federal Finance Minister, Simon Birmingham.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Great have you on the show, Minister. Among these big

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Speaker 1: ticket items for the territory, the federal government's flagged a

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Speaker 1: one point five billion dollar upgrade for the Darwin Port

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Speaker 1: and another four hundred and forty million dollars for logistics

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Speaker 1: facilities in three other territory centers. Firstly, what is that

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Speaker 1: one point five billion to the Darwin Port going to entail?

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Speaker 2: This is really about ensuring that we have the capability

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Speaker 2: for the Northern Territory, which has seen phenomenal growth in

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Speaker 2: its export opportunities in recent years, and to keep that

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Speaker 2: and more export opportunities there is It's crucial we see

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Speaker 2: this about investing in the future energy potential of Australia.

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Speaker 2: So ensuring that we realize the hydrogen potential for Australia

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Speaker 2: the world are underway, and we want the territory, just

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Speaker 2: as it is currently an export hub for LNG, to

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Speaker 1: To a minister, we know the port is currently leased

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Speaker 2: So these are providing for potentially new facilities as part

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Speaker 2: Around around sixty seven percent of all of Australia's exports

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Speaker 2: We're backing those big industrial centers or potential industrial centers

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Speaker 1: Minister, I think that you know, very often regional Australians

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Speaker 2: Very much for the reasons that I outlined that regional

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Speaker 2: of these things. Manufacturing agenda, with another billion dollars of

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Speaker 1: Australian So, of course as part of this flagged are

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Speaker 2: So what we've got there is clearly a funding pipeline

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Speaker 2: Recognizing that building big industries like this take time, Building

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will get to that targeted support in

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Speaker 2: Katie, So, I don't think we've got a specific one there,

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Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty eight million dollars. But importantly, in

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Speaker 1: And I know that those GST shares it's always something

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Speaker 1: Finance Minister Simon Birmingham Minister, we know that more broadly,

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Speaker 2: So the saving will flow through over the next couple

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Speaker 2: it's a recognition that those international factors, the tragic, terrible

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Speaker 1: Yeah good. I know that a lot of listeners are

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Speaker 1: the government says that ten million Australians will benefit. Minister,

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Speaker 1: it is a good step, but who's eligible.

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Speaker 2: So in terms of that additional payment it's going to support,

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Speaker 1: Now there does seem to be a lot in this

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Speaker 1: the seats of Solomon and Lingiari as being winnable once well, we.

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Speaker 2: Will certainly compete hard in those seats. But the reason

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Speaker 2: so it's about the long term plans and vision that

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Speaker 2: But when it comes to the election campaign, we will

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Speaker 2: certainly campaign hard for the two seats in the territory.

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Speaker 1: And we will indeed speak to the Labor Party later

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Speaker 1: is the budget anything other than an attempt to win

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Speaker 2: Katie, It's much much more than that. We have actually

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Speaker 2: more than one hundred billion dollar reduction in deficits in

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Speaker 1: Well, Federal Finance Minister Simon Birmingham, we really appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Thanks so much for having a chat

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Speaker 1: with us and talking us through how the budget is

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Speaker 1: going to benefit the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Katie, my pleasure, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You, Thanks very much. You are listening to Mix one

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Speaker 1: in contact with us this morning, give us a call

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Speaker 1: eight nine to four one one four nine. What was

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Speaker 1: your reaction to the federal budget being handed down? What

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Speaker 1: do you see as it as it doing for you?

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Speaker 1: There does seem to be a massive spend for the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory this time round, as I said there with

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Speaker 1: the Federal Finance Minister, more than two zero point six

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Speaker 1: billion dollars to be spent on infrastructure projects across the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory coming your way after ten o'clock we are

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Speaker 1: going to be speaking to various industry groups to find

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Speaker 1: out how this is going to benefit those various industries.

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Speaker 1: Once again, if you'd like to call through eight nine

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