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Speaker 1: Coming up.

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Speaker 2: On today's show, Ruby Tuesday, Matthews turns into an FBI

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Speaker 2: agent to investigate Popgate, the controversial Elizabeth Arden brand trip

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Speaker 2: featuring Simone Anderson and Taylor Swift's homemade pop tarts. Hello,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest

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Speaker 2: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie Tolbert,

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Speaker 2: and I have some bad news.

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Speaker 1: Gen zetters.

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Speaker 2: They've been canceling everything that millennials love, and this time

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Speaker 2: it's eyeshadow, and I'm not standing for it. I'm feeling

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Speaker 2: rather cocky because I didn't put eyeshadow on today Normally

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Speaker 2: I do. It was out of pure laziness. Can I

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Speaker 2: just ask why are we letting gen Z cancel everything?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Why are we actually listening to everyone?

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Speaker 1: We're not allowing it. I'm not allowing.

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Speaker 2: I'm putting my foot down because apparently, as well as

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Speaker 2: not being allowed to wear eyeshadow, we have to wear

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Speaker 2: very minimal mascaa. There's no eye line it, there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: So what are they warning us to look like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What are we allowed to wear on our But I

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Speaker 2: don't really want to look like a teenager.

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Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out there.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to look like I've just woken up

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Speaker 2: and got out of bed and put my big massive

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Speaker 2: pants on that looked like shit and give you no shape.

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Speaker 1: God, Sophie's really going for gen Zetta's.

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Speaker 2: But aren't they the same generation that we're also drawing

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Speaker 2: on bags recently, like they wanted to look tired.

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Speaker 1: It really doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: I actually became invested in a similar makeup story on

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Speaker 2: TikTok So this woman she's about fifty, and her audience

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Speaker 2: started telling her that she needed to get rid of

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Speaker 2: the under eyeliner.

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Speaker 1: And I really.

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Speaker 2: Felt for her because you could tell the emotional struggle

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Speaker 2: she was having, and it was so funny. She kept

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Speaker 2: coming on camera and being like day one with no

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Speaker 2: under eye eyeliner, and everyone's like.

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Speaker 1: You've still got it on, and she's like, I just

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Speaker 1: put it. I just smashed a bit of masca. I

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Speaker 1: just couldn't deal with it not being black under there. Wait,

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Speaker 1: so did she actually look better? She would be so

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Speaker 1: much better.

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Speaker 2: Ten years younger, And I mean, this is why I

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Speaker 2: still think that we should be open to new makeup trends.

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Speaker 2: But this is just removing a very pivotal step. But

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Speaker 2: I don't agree with it at all. Yeah, you only

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Speaker 2: have to look back at the makeup influencers we're rocking

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen to see.

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Speaker 1: That we do need to progress.

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Speaker 2: While I think that makeup looks good for an event out,

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Speaker 2: it was getting a bit ridiculous when influencers were wearing

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Speaker 2: over the top glam to go and get their male

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Speaker 2: and to make smoothies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that you can definitely tell people's

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Speaker 2: ages by the way that they do do their makeup,

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Speaker 2: and you don't want to be frozen in I suppose

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Speaker 1: But that being said, I think that you.

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Speaker 2: Should just wear what looks good on you and what

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Speaker 2: you feel confident in. I think there are definitely levels

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Speaker 2: to conforming to what's in fashion and what's on trend

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Speaker 2: on TikTok. But I was just so shocked to hear

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Speaker 2: Muscaa was apparently out Like I thought that was something

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Speaker 2: that would never go out of fashion. My first thought was,

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Speaker 2: these makeup companies are going to be so pissed off

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Speaker 2: that no one's wanting to wear eyemacup. But then I

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Speaker 2: remembered all GenZ does is buy skincare. Yeah, well that's

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Speaker 2: the thing. Cosmetic companies are pivoting, and they're basically turning

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Speaker 2: into skincare companies as well. I'm sure there's something that

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Speaker 2: they can sell you to have luscious natural eyelashes where

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Speaker 2: you don't need MUSCAA. But yeah, it will be interesting

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Speaker 2: to see what sort of marketing tactics they start doing,

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Speaker 2: whether they are going to promote this new makeup look further,

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Speaker 2: because I thought mob wife was in and my wife

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Speaker 2: is all about heavy eye shadow. I'm just so sick

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Speaker 2: of these different trends though coming about. And you know,

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Speaker 2: one teenager basically says something isn't in fashion, and we're

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Speaker 1: I just don't agree with it. She durged me to reply,

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Audenkreme, my mum used that on her lips. You

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Speaker 2: Four years on from the pandemic and influencer trips are

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Speaker 2: back in full swing. Cosmetic brand Elizabeth Arden created a

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Speaker 2: stir online this week for hailing a private jet to

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Speaker 2: take influences on and all expenses paid luxury holiday to

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Speaker 2: promote their new product. Now so this trip was very

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Speaker 2: reminiscent of what we'd see back in twenty seventeen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it really did surprise me to see Elizabeth Arden throwing

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Speaker 2: this sort of excessive luxury in the faces of their customers.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely a very old school marketing tactic and one

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Speaker 2: that we saw a lot in twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: and it did go out of favor when the pandemic hit.

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Speaker 2: And it's just bizarre to me that, whilst we're in

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Speaker 2: the midst of a cost of living crisis, this brand thinks, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is a great time for us to pamper influencers

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Speaker 2: on this very unrelatable and out of reach trip. Do

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Speaker 2: you think it might have anything to do with the

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Speaker 2: fact that it's Elizabeth Arden, because it is known for

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Speaker 2: being a bit of an old lady brand. Maybe they've

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Speaker 2: only just discovered this form of influencer marketing. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: seems like they might be trying to open themselves up

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Speaker 2: to a new market, but they've really missed.

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Speaker 1: The mark with this one.

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Speaker 2: These brand trips often turn more into actually promoting the

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Speaker 2: destination they're going to than the actual pred The product

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Speaker 2: gets really lost in the messaging and people might be

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Speaker 2: wondering what was the actual product that was being promoted

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Speaker 2: on this trip, and it was a retinal sort of

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Speaker 2: capsule which is supposed to target wrinkles. So they did

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Speaker 2: seem to select people who were more mid thirties to

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Speaker 2: be sent on this trip, so people who actually have wrinkles,

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Speaker 2: so they do get a tick there. I'm offended by

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Speaker 2: that you said mid thirties. They do have wrinkles. Everyone

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Speaker 2: has wrinkles. In terms of looking at the return on

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Speaker 2: investment for these types of trips, I do think that

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Speaker 2: there is a focus on the holiday destination and all

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Speaker 2: of the services that they're providing for the influencers, because generally,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of those aspects a contra so

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Speaker 2: the brand actually has to promote them in order to

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Speaker 2: then give them to the influencers and then in turn

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Speaker 2: get the marketing from the influencers.

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Speaker 1: Well, this trip was not cheap at all.

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Speaker 2: They selected seven New Zealand based influencers and they sent

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Speaker 2: luxury resort called Eagle's Nest. So I had a look

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Speaker 2: online and one of the packages cost ten thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: a night. Luckily the influencers were only there for one night,

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Speaker 2: but still very costly for the brand. You would assume

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Speaker 2: if all the influencers were tagging the venue. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, they also.

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Speaker 2: Gifted the influencers custom suitcases and there was a lot

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Speaker 2: of branding. Of course, they also received custom made drink

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Speaker 2: ostentatious trips I've seen for a while, because when the

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Speaker 2: influencers arrived at the airport, they were greeted with buckets

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Speaker 2: of MOI, and the PR team had made up branded

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Speaker 2: plane tickets and even the inside and outside of the

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Speaker 2: jet had Elizabeth Arden.

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Speaker 1: Branding on it.

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Speaker 2: I've got to pick you up there, so because a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, we got in trouble for you

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Speaker 2: saying mouey. Oh my god, wellet I don't think it is,

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Speaker 2: but there's a huge debate of whether it's MOEI or

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Speaker 2: mowett because people used to pay others out for saying moett.

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Speaker 2: But that's technically how you're meant to prefounce. When I

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Speaker 2: worked in a bar, everyone said MOI. So that is

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Speaker 2: why I'm saying moe now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's moet.

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Speaker 2: Getting back to the trip, they also had Elizabeth Arden

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Speaker 2: was so much like a twenty seventeen trip. There were

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Speaker 2: a few tiny podiums where the new product was standing

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Speaker 2: on it for photos, but it really wasn't the major focus.

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Speaker 2: And that night the influencers were then treated to a

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Speaker 2: was a very luxury trip. But I said, not much

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Speaker 2: focus on the actual product. We didn't see them trying it,

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Speaker 2: so it was more around the brand and getting the

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I haven't heard of Elizabeth Arden for about fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: so from a branding perspective, it's actually been quite good. Well,

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Speaker 2: everyone said it reminds them of their grandma or their nana.

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Speaker 2: It's I think of tau compowder when I think of it.

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Speaker 2: I think because my grandma used to use their toa compowder.

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Speaker 2: I actually saw someone saying the last time they heard

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Speaker 2: about it was in Prince Harry's book. He used some

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Speaker 2: of Princess Diana's was a face cream, a moisturizer, had

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Speaker 2: put on what.

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Speaker 1: Is called his todja. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, many people have also slammed Elizabeth Arden for sending

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Speaker 2: Simone Anderson on this trip. Now, she traveled alongside six

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Speaker 2: other New Zealand influencers and the majority of those influencers

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Speaker 2: seem to have micro followings. I mean some had as

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Speaker 2: was one of the big influencers that they managed to

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Speaker 2: get on this trip. Kate, for those who haven't heard

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Speaker 2: very divisive influencer, and she rose to fame after documenting

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Speaker 2: her four year weight loss journey. So she ended up

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Speaker 2: of controversies to her name. So in May twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: she was investigated by the Commerce Commission after she was

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Speaker 2: accused of falsely claiming to make donations to the Women's

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Speaker 2: Refuge from the proceeds of her gifted clothes.

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Speaker 1: So the closing.

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Speaker 2: Question was sold on a Facebook page called Simone's second

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Speaker 2: Hand Wardrobe, which had over ten thousand members, and the

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Speaker 2: investigation stemmed after multiple complaints were received by the Advertising

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Speaker 2: that Facebook page was deemed advertising and therefore appropriately identified.

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Speaker 1: While Simone was.

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Speaker 2: Found in breach for not clearly identifying advertising and commercial standards,

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Speaker 2: the Commerce Commission decided not to continue their investigation into

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Speaker 2: her charity donations. So a spokesperson for the Commerce Commission said,

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Speaker 2: one charity has confirmed it received some funds and we

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Speaker 2: do not consider this is ongoing conduct to investigate now.

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Speaker 2: At the time, Simone publicly denied the claims, and six

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Speaker 2: months later she actually took legal action against two fellow influencers,

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Speaker 2: Makiah Carr and Pebble's Hooper, who called her out about

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Speaker 2: the charity donations. Now, this move was heavily criticized by

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Speaker 2: lawyers who said that influencers were now using the act

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Speaker 2: their online behavior. Interestingly, the influencers settled out of court

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Speaker 2: after spending thousands.

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Speaker 1: In legal fees.

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Speaker 2: So I did want to add that in because when

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Speaker 2: we did share an Instagram post about this brand trip,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people were writing defamatory comments about Simone

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Speaker 1: Like oh why did you delete those? And I just

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Speaker 2: To provide the context because while we all may have

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Speaker 2: I think when they send influencers who are part of

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Speaker 2: However, to me, the competition winners, it doesn't work from

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Speaker 6: Good evening, everyone, It is comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Oyster Gate Ruby Tuesday Matthews has captivated her audience with

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Speaker 2: my mum's pot back now. Ruby then shared further security

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Speaker 2: I think you scoped it out, and I think you

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Speaker 2: sent someone there to do your heavy lifting, asshole. Now,

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Speaker 2: normally I'm not a fan of lauences, docks and people

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Speaker 1: Up over this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, she admitted to her followers that popgate had

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Speaker 1: Let's throw to what Ruby said, I have so.

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Speaker 4: Much information and basically the FBI at this stage. If

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Speaker 4: her name is actually Karen, and I'm sure there's lots

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Speaker 4: He's wearing a certain cap, follows the same that that's

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Speaker 4: how deep I've gone. He follows that he's linked with

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Speaker 4: I just hope they just do the right thing. I'll

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Speaker 4: update you tomorrow. Pot game and not that kind of plot,

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Speaker 6: Attacking with we the footbil.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Potgate, I'm going to get oyster gate shirts

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Speaker 2: Later in the evening, Ruby provided a further update, saying, this.

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Speaker 6: Good evening everyone.

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Speaker 3: It is constable oyster Gate, reporting it in the closing

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Speaker 7: Mama, Mama.

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Speaker 6: So turns out I have figured it all out.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love that she's referenced to oyster Gate.

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Speaker 1: This is so funny.

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Speaker 2: So for those who can't remember, back in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: Ruby made headlines when she held up a jet Stuff

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Speaker 1: You can't make this stuff up.

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Speaker 2: Our grandma at her nursing home. There used to be

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Speaker 1: See.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just a coincidence because Ruby has done

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Speaker 1: So she told her followers.

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Speaker 2: On Friday night that she'd worked out the main characters

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Speaker 2: I know it's actually and from flood victims as well

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Speaker 2: as disgusting Now. Ruby also revealed that she knows the

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Speaker 2: artist who painted a painting for the luxury Airbnb, and

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Speaker 2: she said now that she had given everyone a chance

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Speaker 2: to come forward because she had messaged everyone that she

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Speaker 2: was handing the case over to the bigger boys.

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Speaker 1: Let's throw to more of what she said.

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Speaker 6: I know where they're from in Milton, England.

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Speaker 3: Like this is ADHD, Like I didn't know washing isn't dry.

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Speaker 6: But I am part of the task force.

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Speaker 7: So I've called in my old mates, the boys in Blue,

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Speaker 7: because I feel like I gave a substantial amount of time, stantial.

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Speaker 6: Amount of like just drop it back, guys, zero fucks given.

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Speaker 6: So call me a stitch or call.

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Speaker 3: Me a real investigator, because this crime could be solved.

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Speaker 4: I could have got an all rom and this poor

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Speaker 4: pot couple could be No, it's definitely them.

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Speaker 6: It's one hundred percent them. I've had confirmation from multiple

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Speaker 6: people it's them. So bomb got it. Bomb.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, anyway, good on you, beautiful husband and wife duo,

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Speaker 5: love your BMB, love the Coco Republic styling, Love that

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Speaker 5: my girlfriend did one of your artworks connecting the dance

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Speaker 5: that Pot's coming back and you are thieves, got red handed.

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Speaker 6: By me, constabllized to gate and fuck with my family.

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Speaker 7: I will come for you, and if I can't, I

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Speaker 7: will send the boys in blue.

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Speaker 6: That should be a wrap. That's it for me, son.

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Speaker 1: This is so good.

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Speaker 2: I know we have covered some of Ruby's controversies in

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Speaker 2: the past, but this made me a big fan of

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Speaker 2: hers and I think I will be tuning into her

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Speaker 2: social media more regularly now because this was just so funny.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll be hearing about it on a new podcast,

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Speaker 2: which seems to be doing very well now. She did

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Speaker 2: urge her followers to keep their eyes out when driving

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Speaker 2: around the Federal area because she suspects.

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Speaker 1: The thieves will discard the pot.

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Speaker 2: She said, someone who steals like that doesn't have the

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Speaker 2: balls to give something back and go I fucked up

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Speaker 2: someone who steals like a coward.

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Speaker 1: They chucked that shit in the boo.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: On Saturday, Ruby was back at her mum's house to

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Speaker 2: deliver food because her mum wasn't well, and she also

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Speaker 2: revealed potgate was continuing. So Ruby shared that the suspects

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Speaker 2: had actually responded to her message and they confirmed it

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Speaker 2: was them who took the pot, but they claim they

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Speaker 2: took it because they thought the house was being demolished.

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Speaker 1: Oh shit.

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Speaker 2: Now, the woman also said that she spoke to someone

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Speaker 2: out the front who said that the house was being demolished. Now,

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Speaker 2: Ruby shut down the claim, saying that her mom's house

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Speaker 2: is iconic in the area and is one of the

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Speaker 2: oldest houses. Let's write a more of what she said.

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Speaker 3: Because there's one hundred and thirty people in this group

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Speaker 3: of people trying to save these houses. Nos, my mum

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Speaker 3: is trying to get her house raised. Knows she's fighting

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Speaker 3: this fight because she's literally on the fucking front page

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Speaker 3: of the newspaper.

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Speaker 6: She's talking to the media.

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Speaker 3: She's doing everything she can to try and help not

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Speaker 3: just herself, but the whole fucking community that's been left out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, playing devil's advocate here.

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Speaker 2: Could these old people be telling the truth? It sounds

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Speaker 2: like they are nuvo reach. Maybe they've just moved into.

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Speaker 1: The area in this flashy new airbnb.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're not across the iconic houses in the air

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Speaker 2: and who lives there? Could this be goodly innocent and

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Speaker 2: they've taken a pot from a house I thought was

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Speaker 2: being demolished. So you think it's okay for someone to

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Speaker 2: go past the house that they think it's being demolished,

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Speaker 2: that someone still owns and just take a pot. As

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Speaker 2: Ruby says, I actually, I actually don't think there's anything

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Speaker 2: wrong with that. If there was a house, if there

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Speaker 2: was a house that you were told is being demolished

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Speaker 2: and there was a lovely pot that was probably going

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Speaker 2: to get caught up in the carnage, I actually think

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Speaker 2: you might take it because maybe it's a deceased to stage.

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Speaker 1: I think you've been smoking some pots so vi. Because

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Speaker 1: that is absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Because Ruby came out and said that the CCTV vision

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Speaker 2: showed that the woman did not speak to anyone, and

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Speaker 2: also there is a vision of her actually visiting the

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Speaker 2: property two months ago and scoping it out and walking inside. Also,

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Speaker 2: as Ruby said, if you thought the house was being demolished,

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Speaker 2: then why wouldn't you leave a note in the letterbox

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Speaker 2: that asked if you could take the pot? I think

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Speaker 2: it is ridiculous to think that someone can just go

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Speaker 2: on to private property and take whatever they think because

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Speaker 2: they think that it's being demolished.

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Speaker 1: It's bullshit. It's an absolute lie. This is a good

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Speaker 1: lie from the couple. Though alleged lie.

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Speaker 2: See it's actually not a very good excuse because earlier

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Speaker 2: on Friday, when Ruby was in the full force of

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Speaker 2: her investigation, she actually predicted on her Instagram story that

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Speaker 2: the couple who stole the pot were going to claim

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Speaker 2: they didn't think anyone lived there, which she said is

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Speaker 2: absolute bullshit because anyone that's been living in that area

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Speaker 2: for more than two years knows that there are either

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Speaker 2: brand new houses that have been repaired or there are

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Speaker 2: houses that look like her mums because they're still waiting

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Speaker 2: for the insurance to come through. And I think this

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Speaker 2: couple has seen her stories and gone fuck, I need to.

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Speaker 1: Do something quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people will be very happy to know that this

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Speaker 2: pot has been returned to its rightful home. So the

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Speaker 2: couple returned it with a note and a bottle of wine.

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Speaker 2: The note read, so sorry, I thought this was an

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Speaker 2: abandoned house for demolition. My fault entirely. I'm actually really

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Speaker 2: surprised that the pot was returned, particularly after Ruby named

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Speaker 2: and shamed this couple. I would have thought that they

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Speaker 2: probably would have done what Ruby predicted and just abandoned

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Speaker 2: it somewhere destroy it. No, I think it sort of

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Speaker 2: ties into their lie, though they're able to reiterate that that's.

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Speaker 1: What they thought happened.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they clearly did have plans to show it

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Speaker 2: off in the Airbnb and thought, fuck, I can't.

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Speaker 1: Even put it there now.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I made cookies, cookies. Yes to me, there are

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Speaker 2: pumpkin cookies with cream cheese.

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Speaker 1: I sing, do you want to take some with me?

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's ability to do it all continues to baffle

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Speaker 2: the world. If performing on stage at back to back

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Speaker 2: concerts for three and a half hours wasn't impressive enough,

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Speaker 2: it's now been revealed that she's been baking for Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelsey's teammates. So the Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy

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Speaker 2: Reid dropped in an interview that Taylor often comes to

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Speaker 2: team events with home baked. Most recently, she made the

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Speaker 2: offensive linesman on the team homemade pop tarts. I think

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Speaker 2: this just adds more fuel to the fire that she

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Speaker 2: is a time traveler. Everyone was trying to work out

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Speaker 2: how the hell she managed to travel from Tokyo to

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl without getting any sort of jet lag

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Speaker 2: or any signs of jet lag.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there is a theory that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she has an oven on the private jet and

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Speaker 2: that's how she's making all these treats. Maybe it's not

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Speaker 2: actually her that's making it. Maybe she's got a chef

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Speaker 2: at home that whips it up and then she just

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Speaker 2: adds a few toppings to it.

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Speaker 1: She is making the pop tarts. That's the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: She loves to bake.

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Speaker 2: And it's not something new because remember back when she

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Speaker 2: was hosting the nineteen eighty nine listening parties, she was

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Speaker 2: making cookies for all of the fans. I remember when

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Speaker 2: we actually got to meet her and we got taken

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Speaker 2: to the loft after a nineteen eighty nine tour, they

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Speaker 2: had cookies there.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they were homemade.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they were, but they That's a part

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Speaker 2: of her branding that she loves baking. She even made

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Speaker 2: cookies for Joe Biden back in twenty twenty. So this

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Speaker 2: is something that this girl does. And I get why

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Speaker 2: she wants to do this for Travis Kelsey because she's

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Speaker 2: trying to show his teammates. I'm human, I'm like everyone else.

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Speaker 2: I like doing baking and this sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: And how else is a Southern gal?

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Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine you're already impressed by the

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Speaker 2: fact that it's Taylor Swift, and then she's showing up

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Speaker 2: to training and events with home baked goods. Apparently she

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Speaker 2: made Travis Kelsey cinnamon rolls for his pregame meal. That's

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Speaker 2: pretty cute. I mean, I'm confused though, that it's homemade

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Speaker 2: pop tarts. I didn't know that this was a homemade delicacy.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just something you bought in a

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Speaker 1: box and then put in the toaster.

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Speaker 2: I won the recipe. I would love to make homemade

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Speaker 2: pop tarts because I loved pop tarts back in the day. Well,

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll get a recipe soon. I think that this

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Speaker 2: is something that TikTok would be absolutely crying out for.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, she has previously posted some of her recipes before

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Speaker 2: and all over TikTok. Leading into the Eras tour in

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Speaker 2: Australia was her Chai cookie recipe, which I really do

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Speaker 2: want to try out. It just reminds me of the

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Speaker 2: whole tild wife thing. It keeps popping up in my

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Speaker 2: TikTok Allergi rhythm for some reason. It's says woman making

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Speaker 2: handmade knocking tender.

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Speaker 1: Swift is further away from a.

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Speaker 2: Tread wife could, but it's almost that thing.

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Speaker 1: If you've got to be able to do it.

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Speaker 2: All, you've got to be super successful and still make

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Speaker 2: your partner and his teammates homemade cookies. Well, I think

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Speaker 2: we're going to leave things there. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for listening to another episode. If you do enjoy the show,

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Speaker 2: a five star review.

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Speaker 1: This episode was.

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Speaker 2: Recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of

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Speaker 2: the Adelaide Planes.

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