1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: A very good morning and a massive happy birthday to Sam, 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: co founder of the Dahlly OAHs and all round legend. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: It's the thirteenth of December. Sam, how are you feeling? 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Are you feeling old? 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: I am? I'm in my late twenties now I'm twenty seven. 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: No longer cool, no longer young, no. 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Longer I have three more years until I am officially 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: not a young person ever. Sorry to all those thirty 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: one year old listeners out there, but no, A fun day, 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: A fun day to have a birthday, sharing it with 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: From Taylor Swift to COVID nineteen booster shots. How's that 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: for a segue? Ausis can now get a COVID nineteen 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: booster shot at the five month mark. So it was 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: that you were to get it six months after your 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: second JAB, but now that has been brought forward thanks 17 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: to Omicron. The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunization more 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: fondly known as ATAGI has also approved MODERNA booster shots. 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: So now a TARGI is recommending either Pfizer or Maderna 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: for use as a booster vaccine. And I know that 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm booking mine in this week. 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: In the US, at least seventy people have died after 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: twenty two tornadoes hit six states on Friday and over 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: the weekend, with some of the worst destructions seen in 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: the state of Kentucky. The National Weather Service's Storm Prediction 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: Center has received at least thirty six reports of different 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: tornadoes affecting the states of Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Mississippi, 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: and Arkansas. 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: The US has told Russia to withdraw from Ukraine, saying quote, 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: a large number of democratic countries will join us in 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: imposing costs. After diplomats from the Group of Seven Richest 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Democracies met in Liverpool, a US senior State Department official 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: said if they Russia choose not to pursue that path, 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: there'll be massive consequences and severe costs in response, and 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: the G seven is absolutely united in that. 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: Quite a tense situation that the world will be watching 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: this week. In some much needed good news today, Queensland 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 2: has eased its borders after the state's eligible population reached 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: eighty percent. Fully vaccinated vaxed individuals can now travel to 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: the state without quarantining and can arrive by air or 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: by road. Don't forget to check the testing requirements upon entry, 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: though there are still some rules around that Zara. On 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: Friday in the UK, so Saturday our time, the UK 44 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: High Court ruled that Julian Assange, who is wanted in 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: the US over charges of the publication of classified materials 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: and conspiring to hack into US military databases, can be 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: extradited from the UK to the US. 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: You just said a lot of words in a short 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: period of time. Breakdown what you just said. So first, 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: who is Julian Assange? Fanny listeners who aren't familiar, and secondly, 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: how we got into the stage here where there are 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: countries involved in extradition and high court cases. 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: So first let's start with the man. Julian Nossannge is 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: the founder of website and organization WikiLeaks. They publish whistleblower content. 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: They're most notable for publishing contents surrounding the US war 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 2: in Iraq and Afghanistan. Just reminding here, a whistleblower is 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: somebody who releases information that they believe is from an 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 2: organizational person engaging in an unlawful or immoral activity. They're 59 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: normally on the inside of the organization, and Wikiliks is 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 2: founded upon confidential documents being leaked to them and they 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: then take charge of broadcasting them over the Internet. So 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: some of the big documents that put Wikiliks on the 63 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: map were surrounding the Afghan and Iraq wars. There were 64 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: documents from each war that were classified as secret, detailing 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: killing of civilians by US military. And after the twenty 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: ten leaks, so all these documents came out of them, 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: the US government launched an investigation into Wikiliks and Assange. 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: By this point, Assange was actually living in the Ecuadorian 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: embassy in London. He lived there for seven years, from 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: twenty twelve until he was arrested in April twenty nineteen. 71 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: He was at that embassy because he was wanted in 72 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: Sweden for allegations of sexual assault. Now that case was 73 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 2: later dropped. The reason why he was in the embassy 74 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: is because when you're in side an embassy that doesn't 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: have an extradition agreement with another country, you're protected and 76 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: you're almost not under the rules of the UK. If 77 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: you're inside the Ecuadorian embassy, Zara quickly runs through what 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: extradition is. 79 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: Extradition is the process by which one country sends a person. 80 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: So in this case Julian Assange currently in their custody 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: to another country to face criminal prosecution or to serve 82 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: a prison sentence. So if someone is in the control 83 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: of one government but another government wants to prosecute them, 84 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: that process and the process of bringing them out to 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: the other country is called extradition. 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: And so putting aside the Swedish extradition attempt that was dropped, 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: this extradition attempt is from the US who wants him 88 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: on these charges of the releasing of confidential material, and 89 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: the UK High Court has now ruled that he can 90 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: be extradited. He wasn't being extradited before this weekend because 91 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: there were concerns over his mental health and the concern 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: was that the US system would not allow for a 93 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: s to be safe. Therefore, the UK District Court said, 94 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: we can't agree to extrite somebody where there's a risk 95 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: to their life. Now the High Court has gone back 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: on this and said that when the US administration gives 97 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: a promise to the UK of fair and humane treatment 98 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: of a detainee, it must be trusted. 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: This isn't the end of the road, though, there is 100 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: still one more UK court that can hear and appeal, 101 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: and that's the UK's Supreme Court. Assange's lawyers said that 102 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: they would appeal the decision to the Supreme Court shortly 103 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: and it was just after this news that we heard 104 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: more news about Julian Assange. Stella Morris, who is his 105 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: partner and the mother of his two youngest children, posted 106 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: on social media to say that Assange had suffered a 107 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: stroke during this process. So during his High Court appeal, 108 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: she didn't provide any further update on his condition, but 109 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: did say that Julian is struggling and I fear this 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: mini stroke could be the precursor to a more major attack. 111 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: It compounds our fears about his ability to survive the 112 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: longer this long legal battle goes on. 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: And so what we're seeing now is a maive debate 114 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: over the health of Julian Assange, and not only the 115 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: mental health, but now interestingly the physical health as well. 116 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: You have to remember that this is somebody who's been 117 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: in some sort of custody or refuge for about ten 118 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: years now, so this is a long awaited extradition for 119 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: the us ZARA. Interestingly, Australia actually has a role to 120 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: play in this situation. Can you tell me a bit 121 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: about that. 122 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: When we're reading and hearing about Julian Assand they can 123 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: sometimes be this distance because his charges are almost movie 124 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: like it's this really big, massive moral story, but in 125 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: fact he's Australian and the story is extremely close to 126 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: home and of course goes to the heart of democracy. 127 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: What's the role of the Australian government during this whole process, Am. 128 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: It's an interesting one because he is, as you said, 129 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: an Australian citizen. So the government has a responsibility to 130 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: monitor the case of any Australian citizen around the world 131 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: in another jurisdiction. But they've said very clearly yesterday that 132 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: they would can you need to respect the UK legal process, 133 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: including any further appeals under the UK law. That's obviously 134 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: referencing the upcoming appeal by Assange, and the government emphasized 135 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: that Australia was not a party to the case. Where 136 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: Australia's role could come into play though, is an agreement 137 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: made with US prosecutors that Assige could serve out his sentence, 138 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: and he's facing up to one hundred and seventy five 139 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: years in prison, he could actually serve that out in Australia. 140 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: To be closer to family as a some sort of 141 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: mitigating factor for the health concerns that are clearly top 142 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: of mind for Assange and his team. 143 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: As we said earlier, there is still room left in 144 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: the appeals process for Assignger's team, so no doubt this 145 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: will be back in the headlines shortly and until that time, 146 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us on this Monday edition of The 147 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: Daily Ours. We hope you have a fabulous day and 148 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: enjoy your Monday