1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: She's on the Money. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: for millennials who want financial freedom. 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: Surprise. 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: My name is Tony Lodge, and I am obviously here 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: with Victoria to fine. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: Why is it so obvious and why is it so 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: drawn out? 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Oh? 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: I just thought that would be cute. 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. 13 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: We don't have to jump in it. 14 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, don't start again. 15 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 16 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: Just keep this in there. Okay, this is a money diary. 17 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: I'll never do it again. Yep, we're here from money 18 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Diary and I really like this one. I think it's 19 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: going to be a nice one. 20 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: Well, I haven't seen the email just yet to want 21 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: to read it to you, all right, I would love 22 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: for you to read it to me. 23 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Hi there. I'm twenty nine and live with my 24 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: partner of ten years. 25 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: Oh cute. 26 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: We currently have around eight hundred dollars in savings. I 27 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: have a full time job, a casual job, and I'm 28 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: also self employed as a disability support worker. 29 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what cezy. 30 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Around eighteen months ago, my partner was in an accident 31 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: while holidaying overseas. Oh no, as a result, he has 32 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: severe brain damage and will never work or drive again. 33 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: We currently owe his family around ninety thousand dollars for 34 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: money borrowed to pay for overseas medical bills and an 35 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: air evacuation. Any money my partner receives from the government 36 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: goes to these bills, which leaves him with next to 37 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: nothing to live on, and my income covers both of 38 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: our daily living costs including rent, insurance, medication, utilities, etc. Thanks. 39 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we've got our money, diarrest on the line. 40 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: We do. 41 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: Let's have a chat, and I guess we'd first like 42 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: to say thank you for sharing your story with us. 43 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: It's like a quite intimate story. 44 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, thank you for reaching out to us and 45 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: you know, I guess trusting us to share this that's 46 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: really special. 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: Thank you. 48 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Oh well, do you know what in true? 49 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: She's on the money money dary fashion. Let's get into 50 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: all of the questions. I have a lot for you, 51 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: but we'll get to them at the end of the 52 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: podcast when we get to have a good chat. But 53 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: let's kick off straight away with what is your attitude 54 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: towards money? 55 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: I'm very conservative. I don't like to spend money unless 56 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: it's absolutely necessary. 57 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: So you don't like treat yourself a lot. You just 58 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: kind of you stick to your means and that's it. 59 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. 60 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: And where do you think that attitude towards money came from. 61 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: Do you think it's, you know, something you've. 62 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: Always had, or is it recent or how's that come 63 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: to fruition? 64 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: I think it's something that I've always had. I grew 65 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: up in a single family home, so it was just 66 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 4: my mom supporting the three of us kids. 67 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: Three I got a queen my god. 68 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So as I got older, I was always 69 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 4: aware of the value of money. Yeah, and yeah, because 70 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: you know, we went through some really hard times when 71 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: I was younger. When I have money, I don't really 72 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: like to part with it. But the recent events in 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: my life have sort of exacerbated that. I definitely don't 74 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: mind spending running. 75 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that must be so hard, And we'll get into 76 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: that a little bit later, because I do want to 77 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: be able to ask you some perfect questions that I'm 78 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: sure friends and family probably haven't had the permission to ask. 79 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: But being a money direct means that you're open to it, 80 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: which were so grateful for. But let's jump into the 81 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: next question, which is what do you do for work 82 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: and how much do you currently earn? 83 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: Okay, so, my main job, my full time job, I 84 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: am an assistant account manager in the insurance division of 85 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: a large building company. I also work casually in retail, 86 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: and I'm self employed as a disability support worker. 87 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: So you must do so many hours a week. What 88 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: does your average workweek look like? 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: About six to seven days? 90 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 91 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I do between forty eight and fifty eight 92 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: hours a week. 93 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that is so many hours, especially because 94 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: I know, and I guess, I guess this is a 95 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: bit different because we've read that email out and I 96 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: kind of know why you do what you do, and 97 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: you know, so many people do work fifty eight hours 98 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: a week, Like I definitely would run loops around that, 99 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: And that's not a flex at all. 100 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: It's just more I run loops around that. 101 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: But I'm so lucky that I get to do that, 102 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: just because it's a choice of mine, whereas yours is 103 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: not coming from choice, right, Yeah, I have to Yeah, absolutely, 104 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: So next question, let's try keeping this on track, because 105 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: I genuinely want to have such a beautiful chat with 106 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: you soon. 107 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: But what is your big money goal. 108 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: So my big money goal at the moment is to 109 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: pay off an existing debt and say it wasn't for 110 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: a home. 111 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: Awesome. How how's that tracking? 112 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: It's actually getting a little bit better. I've recently started 113 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 4: a new role which changed with a HAVES wage increase. 114 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah congrats, yes, yeah, so really excited about that. So 115 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: at the moment where they're smashing out repayments on a loan, 116 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: and then once we're in a more comfortable position, we 117 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: will start saving for a house deposits. So we haven't 118 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 4: started that yet. 119 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: That is so good. 120 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: So do you currently have investments? 121 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: I do use rais Yes, yes, so I did. I 122 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 4: had probably about five hundred dollars in there was very 123 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: recent but when I changed jobs, I actually had to 124 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: go four weeks without any income all out yees, so 125 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: I had to use up my emergency find andre all 126 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: on my Rave account in order. 127 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: So excited to hear that you had an advice you'ven 128 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: So how good is that? 129 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 4: It's really good? And it's you'd get up through that 130 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: entire four weeks? 131 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: Oh good, I'm so glad. 132 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: All right, next question is do you currently have any debts? 133 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: If so, what are they yes. 134 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: So we now have about fifty seven eight hundred owing 135 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 4: to my partner's grandparents for the loan we got to 136 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: his air evacuation. I have about sixteen thousand in hext 137 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: and a twelve hundred dollars tax bill. 138 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: It sounds like you made a pretty big dent in 139 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: the Oh sorry, is that giving ahead? No? No, no, it 140 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: sounds like you've made a really big dent in the 141 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: money you owe to your partner's family. That's amazing. 142 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. So we did organize a growth fund me, and 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: the donation from that puts, you know, a hefty dent 144 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: into the debt. 145 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 146 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: And I think in the last eighteen months we've paid 147 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 4: down about ten to fifteen thousand. 148 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: God, that's so googe. 149 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: That's so much money that you guys have. Okay, sorry, no, no, no, 150 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: next question. 151 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: All right, So what is one of your best money habits. 152 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: I'm always saving, so I use up. Thanks, Yes, we 153 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: love up. Yes. And so I get paid monthly. So 154 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: I have my little side accounts for week two, three, 155 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: and four, and I split up my my wages into 156 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: different weeks. And then I also have so one of 157 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: my jobs. Everything gets paid into the emergency fund account, 158 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: so it's automatically transferred. And then I do also have 159 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: a car account. We're another one of my jobs get 160 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: paid directly into my car account. 161 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: So that is actually really good. 162 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: And I'm so glad to hear that you're on top 163 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: of your money story, because when something traumatic like what 164 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: you've been through happens, often people do bury their heads 165 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: even further into the sand when it comes to money. 166 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: But it sounds like you guys are absolutely on top 167 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: of it. So to contrast that a little bit, what 168 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: is your worst money habit? 169 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: I think that my worst money habit would be I 170 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: want to say food. 171 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: It's the same time common. 172 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: It's so common. Yeah, it's so easy. 173 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: So in the last week, I think I've cooked once, 174 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: and if I go to the sous market to one thing, 175 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: I come out with ten things. And especially tap Aware. 176 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm girls say. 177 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: I've come out with so much tup aware and take 178 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: get like takeaway coffee cups from the souitmarkets. I have 179 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: like fifteen or twenty in my cupboard and I just 180 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: keep buying them. 181 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: It's like an addiction. 182 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: I always walk past the tuperware section and look at it. 183 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: And grade. 184 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: Jumping back into the questions with you, my friend, last 185 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: question before we get to have a chat with you 186 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: properly is what grade would you give yourself if I 187 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: forced you to give yourself a grade? 188 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: I think maybe like a seven and a half. I 189 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 4: think because I feel like we're still recovering, You're totally 190 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: quite there yet, but we're getting there. 191 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a nine. I feel like 192 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: I'm doing so but I feel like you're doing. 193 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: So well given the situation, and I'm sure after the 194 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: chat all of our listeners will absolutely agree. So we'll 195 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: be back in just a minute to have a really 196 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: good chat with you. Okay, let's jump straight back into 197 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: the questions. This is such a special story to be 198 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: sharing money, direst. I think the best place to start is, actually, 199 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: can you give us a little bit of a backstory, 200 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: like what happened? Tell me a little bit about your 201 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: partner and what he did before the accident. 202 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, my partner was a painter, like a house painter, 203 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: and has been for a really, really long time. We 204 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: were scheduled to get married in September of twenty nineteen, 205 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: and a week before he went on his Bucks party 206 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: in Bali and that's where he had his accidents. So 207 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: he required emergency surgery and that was thirty five thousand 208 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: dollars and we had to make that payment before they 209 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: would operate. So essentially he was just laying in a 210 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: room and you weren't a young mayor, no, So I 211 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: was at home and it was exactly seven days before 212 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: the wedding. So the following day I got on a 213 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: plane and went straight to Bali and we spent a week. 214 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, we did incredibly traumatic. I'm so 215 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: sorry to hear that. 216 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 3: It was. 217 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: We did manage to get together enough money in time. 218 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: We had like an eighteen hour window to have that 219 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: surgery done and we managed to pull it together just 220 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 4: in time. So he's had an emergency. It's called a 221 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: decompressive craniot of me because he had bleeding and swelling 222 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: on his brain and then he spent he was on 223 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: life support for a week in a coma before we 224 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: were able to medivac him back to Australia. So he 225 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: did have insurance and he took out insurance to be 226 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: writing a scooter, but he did not have an international 227 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: driver's license, so the insurance company Tonight our claim. 228 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: See even when you think you've done think he's done that. 229 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 2: And that was actually going to be my next question 230 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: link how does that work? 231 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: And did he have insurance? 232 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: In my financial advisor brain going straight back to Kay 233 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: what coverage did he have? 234 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: How did that work? And what did that mean? 235 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: So? 236 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: How old is your partner now? 237 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: So he is he turned thirty four last week. 238 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: And how has he recovered thus far? 239 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: So he spent once we got him back to Australia. 240 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: I think we got him back to Australia on the 241 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: sixth of September twenty nineteen. I flew with him on 242 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: a medevac to Perth. And then once we actually arrived, 243 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: he was staffed by the trauma team and he had 244 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: to undergo emergency surgery again, and then he spent another 245 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: week in the ICU in a croma and then after 246 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: that he was sort of transferred to a brain injury 247 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: ward for a week or two, and then he spent 248 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: four months in a rehabilitation facility where he learnt to 249 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: walk and talk and eat and all the rest of it. 250 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: Again, that is so traumatic for both of you, So 251 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: I guess I'd love that's such a special story and 252 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm just in awe that you're so willing to share 253 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 2: this with you know, Tony and I, but also our 254 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: entire ses on the money community to learn from. Is 255 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: he himself now or what's his capability and capacity? 256 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: Like? 257 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know we've we've seen neurologists, neurosurgeons, neurocycs, 258 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: occupational therapist, anything you can think of, we have seen them. 259 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: So he is able to walk and talk, He spent 260 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: like he can be home alone during the day. But 261 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: he does have a severe memory impairment, so he has 262 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 4: short term memory well, and he has left side weakness 263 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: as well. So he it's like somebody who's had a stroke. 264 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: They sometimes was function in one side of fair body, 265 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: and it's quite similar for him. He did have a 266 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 4: stroke during one of his surgeries, but there was it 267 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: didn't do anything further, it's just the impact of the 268 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: brain injury means that he's got reduced dexterity in his 269 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: left hand. He is also now epileptic and he's hearing 270 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: in ted as well. 271 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: Oh my heart, that is such a hard story to 272 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: one go through, but also just to hear and go 273 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: you know what, that must be so traumatic. 274 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: How are you my friend. 275 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: I am actually okay. So it's been just over eighteen 276 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: months now to be two years in August, and you 277 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: don't really have any other option except to keep going. 278 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: You can't stop. So you know, we live together. I'm 279 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 4: his main support and so you can't stop. You just 280 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: nobody is going to do it for us, So we 281 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: need to do it for ourselves, and we've got to 282 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: keep going. So we have access to NDIS, which means 283 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:20,479 Speaker 4: that he has a support team and they are absolutely incredible. 284 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: He now goes to the gym a couple of times 285 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: a week with a personal trainer. He volunteers with other 286 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: people with disabilities, and we're hoping that in the future 287 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: he can advocate for people that have been in his position. 288 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: But he still does have a bit of recovery to 289 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: go before we can sort of start looking at that. 290 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, that is such a special story. 291 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: I'm just in awe and to be honest, I don't 292 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: know where to go next. But my financial advisor brain 293 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: is ticking over to personal insurances? Did he because he's young? 294 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: Personal insurance isn't something that a lot of young people 295 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: think they need. We always say things about situations like 296 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: Yoursbert it'll never happened to me, or you know, I 297 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: know a friend of a friend and that's really awful. 298 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: And then there's no real call to action. We don't 299 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: set it up. I know you said he didn't have 300 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: travel insurance, but did he have any like trauma or 301 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: TPD or other insurances he could have come back to, 302 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: like income protection. 303 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he didn't have the travel insurance. It just 304 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: didn't pay. But he was a contractor and worked under 305 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: his own aben and I nagged and nagged about personal 306 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: accident and illness insurance and all those sorts of things, 307 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: and he just did not set it up. They they don't. 308 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: We are in the middle of launching a claim with 309 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: his super for a total permanent disability claim. Unfortunately, the 310 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: super company that he's with, and they're probably one of 311 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 4: the only ones that they pay out in installments over 312 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: a period of five to six years rather than in 313 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: a lump sum. So the only situation where they will 314 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: pay out in a lump sum is if you have 315 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 4: lost twenty five percent of your cognitive functions, or if 316 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: you've lost a limb or permanently blind, that sort of thing. 317 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 4: So we are hoping that we will be able to 318 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 4: get by on the loss of twenty five percent of 319 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: cognitive function because if they do the installments, you have 320 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 4: to go through and provide medical evidence and reports every 321 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: year before they'll make the next installment, which. 322 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: Is which is hard, right, and it's something that. 323 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: People hard and it's extensive. Yeah, and that is why. 324 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 2: And you know, back to my financial advisor hat, I'm 325 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: so sorry I keep bringing this up, but you know, 326 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, this is a money 327 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: podcast and this is such a good learning for our 328 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: community that this is why it's so important and to 329 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: understand the terms and conditions of the policy that you 330 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: do take out. And a lot of the time, you know, 331 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: as an advisor, I will recommend a policy that's slightly 332 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: more expensive than the cheapest one. And the reason is 333 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: often the claims process is a lot smoother and it's 334 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, better payout sums. Because at the time you 335 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: sign a policy, you just don't care. You like, whatever, 336 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: if it gets paid over a certain period of time, 337 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter. But if shit hit the fan, 338 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: like it has with you, like having a up sum 339 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: of money because you're currently in debt and actually need 340 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: it to pay for physio and pay for all of 341 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: the therapies he's having is essential, right, And it does 342 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: make a world of difference. 343 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: It does, and it prompted me. I was with the 344 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 4: same superannuation company and I actually changed mine last week 345 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: and I called and I made sure that they paid 346 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 4: out in month sums. Yeah, and I also made sure 347 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: that they had a smaller waiting period on their protection 348 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 4: perfection as well. And I change mine over because I 349 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 4: am our main income earner and I something, what's happened 350 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: to me that there's you know, there's nothing. 351 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 2: There's nothing. And that's what's so hard. It's not just 352 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: the responsibility is on you. It's financially on you as well. 353 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: And that's a massive point of stress for a lot 354 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: of people. 355 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: It's human nature to just think that's not going to 356 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: happen to me. And that's why these things happen because 357 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: we just think that's not going to happen to me. 358 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: And you don't look into all these insurances, you don't 359 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: know how they're going to impact us, and yeah, those 360 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: kinds of things. 361 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, and that was his attitude as well. 362 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 4: That's what nothing's just nothing about happens to me and 363 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: all the rest of it. And now I've seen the 364 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 4: worst that can happen, and I, yeah, that's not happening. 365 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: I can no, absolutely not. 366 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: And I think that it's so special that you're willing 367 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: to share this story with our community. But also, let 368 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: me just take a second to give some props to you, 369 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: Like you deserve it, You deserve it, But also like 370 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: how lucky is he to be so loved? Like so 371 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: many partners would you know, put that responsibility on their 372 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: parents or you know, their family members and it might 373 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: be too much. And I've seen it as someone who 374 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: goes through insurance claims and actually deals with. 375 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: This stuff a fair bit. It's shit. 376 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's actually terrible. 377 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 4: It is and it does suck. And you know, situations 378 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: like this as well, you do really find out the 379 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 4: sort of people that you need in your life and 380 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 4: the people that you don't need. But there was never 381 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 4: a question of being there for him. It was it 382 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 4: was not something I thought about. It was it was 383 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: just something that I did. 384 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: There was Well, I've got a really insignificant question, but 385 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: are you guys still planning on getting married? 386 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Are you? 387 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 3: What does it need to look like? 388 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 4: So, yes, we don't still will get married. He is 389 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: absolutely on my back about it. 390 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: He's like, I've got to lock this woman down. She's 391 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: the best. 392 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: She does everything for me. 393 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so my wedding dress is still in the cupboard. 394 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: I hope we've seen it. 395 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: No, he hasn't. We've been engaged for It'll be six 396 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: years in July, so it's yeah, it's been a really 397 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 4: really long time. But he wants time. Happy to go 398 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: to the courthouse and sign the papers and whatnot, but 399 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: he wants a wedding. He wants he does he does 400 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: a characters in the backyard or if it's a fancy one, 401 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: and he just wants a party. 402 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: But I mean it sounds like he just really wants 403 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: to celebrate you. And that is so so special to 404 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: have someone that you obviously love him so much, you know, 405 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: and he feels the same way about you. 406 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he is so sweet and he is so kind 407 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: and he appreciates everything. Oh. 408 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: I just love love. 409 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 2: I love when people we love and they're just caring 410 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: and look after each other. And yeah, it's it's crazy. 411 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: So what does the future look like for you guys? 412 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: Obviously we want to get married and then what what next? 413 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: So we yeah, definitely do want to get married. He 414 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: definitely wants to start having children yesterday. I love that. 415 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 4: I hear about it every day because he's getting a 416 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: little bit. He's a few years older than me, so 417 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: hem he's like, I don't want to be forty and 418 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 4: have a one year old and all the rest of it. 419 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 4: So that's definitely something that he wants to do. But 420 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 4: I'm very, very career driven. 421 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there would be an always possibility as well 422 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 2: on you to you know, be a care for him 423 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: as well as be a care for those children. And 424 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: I think that that's a really big step to take, 425 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: but an exciting one all the same. 426 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm the last one left of my 427 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 4: siblings to have a. 428 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: Child, so it's a little. 429 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 4: Bit of younger than me, and she's already started. 430 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 3: I know, Well, she can just prop that up. Then 431 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: you can share, you can share, you can just be 432 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: the cool aunt. 433 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: That's what I thought. And I have a dog, so, oh. 434 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: My god, that's a child. That's a fair child. 435 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a baby. 436 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: So it's really nice that he hasn't lost his like 437 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: lust for life. He sounds like a really happy person. 438 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Sounds like you guys make each other really really happy, 439 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: and that even though you've gone through, you know, a 440 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: really crazy life, even you've been together for ten years, 441 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: you've been through all of these ups and downs, that 442 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: you still share the same goals and he's happy to 443 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: trust you with your finances and you know, you run 444 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. It's just sounds like you've got 445 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: a really, really incredible relationship and I kind of feel 446 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: like we're part of it. 447 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for it. 448 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: A little peaking to your life, it's like so special. 449 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for sharing this story. Yeah, 450 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: it's so it's so great to learn about everybody's diverse 451 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: experiences and what they've been through. But also, you know, 452 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: this is kind of a little bit of a call 453 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: to action to make sure that your insurances are set 454 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: up properly, and you actually do understand what that claims 455 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: process looks like, because at the end of the day, 456 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: that if it had been set up properly, would have 457 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: taken a lot of that pressure off. 458 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of. 459 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: Pressure off the situation that is already so stressful. 460 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it can happen, you know, you know, these 461 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: things can happen to anyone, you know. 462 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for joining us today, 463 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: Money Diarist. 464 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: I think that's all you have done for today. 465 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, no thanks, And. 466 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: As always, just before we head off, we'd like to 467 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: acknowledge and pay respect to Australia's Aboriginal and Torres Straight 468 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: island of peoples. 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