1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: My name is Tatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Ganya Niana, Kaka yah Ya bin Ahaka Nian our gay 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: in Mbina, yakarum Jar, Dominyamiga Umagahawakaman, damon Imlan Bomber bang 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Gadabomba in and now in wakah Ghana on yak rum 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Jar Water Nada. Hello, beautiful friends, we gather on the 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: lands of the Aboriginal people. We thank acknowledge and respect 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the Aboriginal people's land that we're gathering on today. Take 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: pleasure in all the land and respect all that you see. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: She's on the Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: bringing you the tools, knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. 14 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 15 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: where we share the secrets to starting, growing and thriving 16 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 4: in your business. I'm your host of Victoria Devine, and 17 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 4: today we're going to be diving into a very special 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: business Diaries episode with a voice you might just recognize. 19 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: She's the powerhouse behind She's on the Money's acknowledgment of country, 20 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: a trailblazer in this space, an absolutely magic human being, 21 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: and an absolute force for change. Natasha bamblet aka the 22 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: Queen of Acknowledgments. 23 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Even though you're on the show 24 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: every week, I know, it's so nice to actually be 25 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 3: here and be with you. 26 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: I'm so excited. This is such a good conversation. And 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: before or I know it's going to be a good conversation, 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: and before we get into it, I think we should 29 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: talk about how we met, because offline we were like, 30 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: oh yeah, like how did we meet? And we met 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: at it was International Women's Day event and you were 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: a guest at that event, as was I and I 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: remember seeing you. You were wearing themos gorgeous. I don't 34 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 4: know if you still have it, Hope you do zebra dress, yes, 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: and you looked so hot. Like I just looked at 36 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: you and I was like this woman, Oh my goodness, 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 4: who is she? 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 3: What does she do? 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: And so after like all of the like formalities happened, 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 4: I literally went up and introduced myself, was like, Hi, 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: I'm Victoria, and. 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 3: You just look like someone I would want to know. 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 4: And you're like Okay, so that's how we came to 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: be and you know, learn more about you and your 45 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: business and what you did. And then I was just obsessed, 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: like I loved the idea of a really meaningful acknowledgment, 47 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 4: and I think that that's where we could probably dive 48 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: in what were you doing before? Like, let's backtrack before 49 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: we actually dive in what were you doing before you 50 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: were the queen of acknowledgements? Like did you see yourself 51 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 4: running your own business? Were you already doing something? 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: Well? I had been doing it for a little. 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: While without it being what it is today as queen acknowledgments. 54 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: But I was just doing acknowledgments because that was just 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: a part of who you were. I am and bringing 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: that into the space of who it is that I'm 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: connecting with. And I started dancing. I started with a 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: group of kids in my shed dancing, and I was like, 59 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do because I knew 60 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: dancing could connect to all people. Music, dancing, moving our bodies. 61 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: It didn't have you know, age, gender, race, It connected 62 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: us all and it brained joy. And that's where I started, 63 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: and from then on it grew into workshops and my 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: acknowledgments were very short at the start. I didn't talk much. 65 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: I moved my body more than I did my mouth. 66 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: And then it just grew and somebody just said. 67 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: So is this what you do? 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, yeah, but like it's just 69 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: for fun, Yeah, just because I just. 70 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: Do it, because it's I just do it. 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: Were you always charging for it? Like, were people paying 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: you for this privilege? 73 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: No? 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: So I just did it. 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: It just come with what point, did you go, this 76 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: is actually something I need to be charging. 77 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: For twenty twenty so it seems still fresh. And it 78 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: was in a time where life was chaotic already. Yeah, 79 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: And I started working on myself and found myself in 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: like women's spaces and with sisters who were also had 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: business because I was like, I don't even know what 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: being a business woman is, even though that I was doing. 83 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: We're still just all making it up. 84 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: Now that you're in it, in it, are you like, Oh, 85 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 4: we all don't know what we're talking about. We just 86 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: walk into the room with enough confidence that people take 87 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: us seriously, and yeah, then we actually go to our 88 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: work for the business side of things. 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, still figuring. 90 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: That out as I go, But I think I just 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: led with myself first. Yeah, and the business followed. 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's been the beauty of discovering this 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: work that I get to do because I'm just really 94 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: being my authentic self. 95 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: And that is so beautiful and like, I mean, I 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: don't do anything similar, but like being able to find 97 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: your authentic self with the work that you do is 98 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: so liberating, Like you genuinely don't feel like you're working, 99 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: and it's very similar with what I do. 100 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: Like I adore what I do. But I remember back when. 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: I was a financial advisor for a demographic of people 102 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 4: I didn't resonate with for you know, content that I 103 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: was like, oh, I just I really don't love this. 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: I was consistently burnt out. I was overwhelmed, Like I 105 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 4: didn't feel inspired with the work that I do. And 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: now you might go, Victoria Devine, you are crazy, like 107 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 4: you do these crazy hours. You're a mum, you do 108 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: and it's exactly what you do. But like that's what 109 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: brings me energy. Yeah, Like, yes, I'm very happy. Like 110 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 4: last night I ran a webinar from like eight till 111 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: nine thirty pm, and lots of people will be like 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: you did that after a day. 113 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: Of work five. 114 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 4: I couldn't wait to do that, Like I was so excited. Yeah, 115 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: I would have been more disappointed if I wasn't able 116 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 4: to do that. And I think that when you find 117 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: that passion, like, yeah, we do need to instill a 118 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: lot of good work life balance, and they're still like 119 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: pushing back to maintain my priorities. But it's really about 120 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 4: that being nourishing instead of it being training. 121 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I find like you, I wake up wanting to work, 122 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: wanting to do what I do in service of people 123 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: because I know it's impactful and it impacts me just 124 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: as much as it does those that are in my space. Yea, 125 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: I wake up with creative thoughts of what more can 126 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: I do and how more I can you know, impact 127 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: people that I haven't seen or you know, spoke with before. 128 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: I love it. 129 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 4: Talk to me about how you made it work financially? 130 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: What was it like going from you know, doing this 131 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: for free because you're like genuinely so passionate about it 132 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: and that comes across but then going, ah, actually my 133 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: fee is X, Like was that awkward or weird or 134 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: like that was I feel like most of us have 135 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: had that like a moment where you're like either I'm 136 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: under charging or I'm not charging. 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: What did that look like? 138 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 139 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: So I was like dabbling in the business, like one 140 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: foot in flirting with it, like doing this. 141 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: When somebody would approach me, thinking. 142 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow, this is amazing. I don't know, you know, 143 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: is this what I'm really here to do? And still 144 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: holding onto a job because that was that's what you're 145 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: supposed to do, Like that was what I was. 146 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: Totally good thing. That's like the sensible thing when you're 147 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: a mom and makes a lot of sense. 148 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: I've done. You go get your full time employed job 149 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: because that is what the world expects of you. 150 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: And that fell apart in the most you know, blessed way. Yeah, 151 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: because I had no security blanket, and it was like, well, 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: here's this thing that I do. It's a gift and 153 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: people are asking about it and wanting it. So I 154 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: went in and I had no idea what I was doing. 155 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: And there was moments where I was taking gift batches 156 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: and you know, a few one hundred dollars here and 157 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: there from it, and more asking like oh so like 158 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: what do you think you know, just not understanding that 159 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: this is a and. 160 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: How do you charge? 161 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 4: Like that's really, And I'm not asking you how you charge, 162 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: but like, how do you work out what value you 163 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: placed on it? Because it's a service, it's not a product. 164 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: And then on top of that, it's a very meaning 165 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: for service that I think needs a lot of respect. 166 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 4: And to me, it's not like you know, a service 167 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 4: like an accountant doing your bookkeeping. No, like it's a 168 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: different like how did you go? 169 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: All right? 170 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: Well, I feel like this is the right price to charge. 171 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 4: Like was that a process of conversation or thought or 172 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: where did you land? 173 00:08:59,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 174 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: It was really hard because I didn't go to school, 175 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't study for this. So it's it's 176 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: an ancient wisdom. It's culture and connection. So I'd had 177 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people in my life that supported me, 178 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: you know, coaches at the time that were like, okay, 179 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: so this is a thing. And I had a lot 180 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: of other business women that were like this is you know, 181 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: they had a lot of ideas that they brain to me. Well, 182 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: I guess I wasn't seeing things the way they were 183 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: seeing it. So I think I just started with a 184 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: price and close my eyes and press some men. 185 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel a bit sick. 186 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 4: So when you first it, you're like, they're going to 187 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: think that's astronomical. 188 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 2: And I just I put myself out there. 189 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 190 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: Social media was a big, you know, part of my 191 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: growing of my business and the platform to what it 192 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: is today. So you know, I was I didn't even 193 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: have a website. I was just like put it out 194 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: there and say this is what you're off, meaning what 195 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: you're doing, and people wanted it. 196 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, well that's not how I 197 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 3: thought this would go. 198 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so then people started booking yeah, and I was like, oh, 199 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: this could be as easy and simple as that, you know. 200 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: So I had to go through a lot of limiting 201 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: beliefs and around making money and what that means and 202 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: what working for myself is and you know, the whole 203 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: new way of being and living and. 204 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: You know, business and mothering. 205 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: It's crazy, isn't it. 206 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: Do you like when you first started, did you feel 207 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: that businesses really understood the value of acknowledgments of country 208 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: or did you feel like you also had to educate 209 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: them to get them on board in addition to doing it. 210 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: Because I know that you probably started from people who 211 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: you know, there was already a pre existing demand, right 212 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: and people like we would love for you to do 213 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 4: this for us and you go, yep, no worries. But 214 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,479 Speaker 4: to scale a business you need to have consistent engagements. 215 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 4: You need consistent clients. Was that an education piece or 216 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 4: did you find that? You know, how did that work? 217 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so when it comes to acknowledgments or a cultural 218 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: sentiment piece, when you're offering a service to a business, 219 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: it's not just itself, it's me as well, you know, 220 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: it's all weaved in as one. And yeah, there is 221 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: and there still will be an education piece. 222 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 2: And I think that is a part of it. That 223 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: is a part of what I get to do is 224 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: take people. 225 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: Along the journey with me and they learn, you know, 226 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: from the moment they inquire, you know, through the emails 227 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: or a conversation. And I understand that people are going 228 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: to get it wrong. You know, they're not going to 229 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: understand or have the full knowledge and scope of it. 230 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: And that's okay. 231 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: And I think maybe that's why they enjoy the process 232 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: of working with me, because you know, clients do learn 233 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: along the process. But yeah, we're learning, and we've still 234 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: got some more to learn. But yeah, I understood that 235 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: this is also a gift that I have is. 236 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: One thousand percent like, this is not just a service 237 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: you provide. 238 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 4: And for those of you who maybe you've heard the 239 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 4: beautiful acknowledgment at the start of our podcast, no doubt, 240 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 4: but it is only not even a tenth of the 241 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,599 Speaker 4: energy that you put into you know, your live acknowledgments. 242 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: And we have been privileged enough at She's on the 243 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 4: Money to have you, you know, acknowledge at our live 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 4: events and oh my goodness, like the energy, Like there 245 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: have been times where I'm like, if we can't get Natasha, 246 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: I don't want it, Like I just I adore the 247 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: way that you do it. People like, and you've heard 248 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: this before, I know you have. But the way a 249 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: room connect, the way a room engages with you, and 250 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 4: the energy that carries on after in acknowledgement that you 251 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: perform is so above and beyond anything I've ever experienced. 252 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: And I think that it is you know, in corporate 253 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: there is definitely and it's not, you know, a secret. 254 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 4: We do know that people often see an acknowledgment of 255 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 4: country as a tick box exercise, and for me, that's 256 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: heartbreaking because it can be so much more like even 257 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: at the crux of it, like let's get rid of 258 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: all of the conversation about it. You are giving people 259 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 4: an opportunity to feel a little bit more grounded at 260 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 4: the start of a meeting. Wow, Like that is an 261 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 4: opportunity that we don't always get, but your approach makes 262 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 4: it so much more meaningful. What's the difference between I 263 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: guess a generic acknowledgment of country someone just. 264 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: Reads it off, and what you're doing and how it 265 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: should be done. 266 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Well, it's an embodiment. We can all read off a 267 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: piece of paper, But do you actually connect to what 268 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: it is that you're saying? 269 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: Are you feeling it? Are you meaning? 270 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: Are you expressing it from a place that is beyond 271 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: the words? And I really encourage people to take a 272 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: different insight or a perspective. And what an acknowledgment of 273 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: country is. It's not just about acknowledging the place. It's 274 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: about acknowledging all that exists in the present moment. 275 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: And that's just the energy that I bring. 276 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: And yes, you literally do that in every facet of 277 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: your life. Like I swear, I don't know anybody who 278 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: has the same energy as you, like even you. Walking 279 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: into this podcast studio, I was like, God, Natasha is here. 280 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: I just know, like there's an energy shift, like and 281 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: I think that that's really your connection with the land, 282 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: the waterways, that everything you say it's an embodiment. I 283 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: can absolutely see that, and I just that's I think 284 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: what ends up making me so frustrated when I see 285 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: people just read it off a paper. I'm like, Oh, 286 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: you had such an opportunity there, Like that's that you 287 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: were already spending the time on it, Like you were 288 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: already like, oh, you just missed it. 289 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I see and feel. It is 290 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: a missed opportunity for the person who it's coming from. 291 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: And as an Indigenous person who's sat in the audience 292 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: when people have done it, you can feel the difference. 293 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: You can feel the difference of those who are. 294 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: Saying it to just do it and those who are 295 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: saying it to mean it and create an environment for 296 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: all people's whether it's First Nations or just all people 297 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: in the audience to understand that there's a presence here 298 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: and a grounding and an opportunity to connect to the 299 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: oldest living culture, which I think is a real blessing 300 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: and a privilege. 301 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: You know, and the fact that you want to share 302 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: that with us, Like how beautiful that that I just 303 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 4: I am obsessed with this idea that opportunity exists and 304 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 4: that after everything that happens, your culture is still so No. 305 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: We welcome you, we want to teach you, we want 306 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: to hold your hands and help you feel as connected 307 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: as you deserve to, but we don't deserve that. 308 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: I think it's my responsibility. I feel a responsibility to 309 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: my ancestors. I feel a responsibility to this country that 310 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: holds this richness that anybody that walks on this land 311 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: can feel the custodian ship of this place in their time, 312 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: and how that looks for us to care for it, 313 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: care for ourselves, our communities, our children, and the country 314 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: that has been supporting us. It's all of our responsibility. 315 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: And as a First Nations person, that's an advantage. 316 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: That I have one hundred percent. And it's just it's 317 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: so special that we get to experience that. But you 318 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: said before that you know, even when I'm sitting in 319 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: an order and someone reads off an acknowledgement of country 320 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: and they're just their heart isn't in it, and you 321 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 4: feel it, how does that feel as a First Nations person? 322 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 4: Is that really offensive? And you're like, Okay, cool. They 323 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 4: just don't get it, like, how do we Because from 324 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 4: my perspective and I've got no idea, I would assume 325 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: that's pretty disrespectful. 326 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm not like all people, and I just speak from 327 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: your experience experience, and you know, my behalf is that 328 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: I want to hold their hand and I want to 329 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: go and connect them to country and to themselves and 330 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: allow them to feel what it feels like to acknowledge 331 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 1: from the heart and encourage them to go back out 332 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: and do it again. 333 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it definitely feels like hmm. 334 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: The meaning of acknowledgment is to truly feel acknowledged, and 335 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: sometimes that's missed and it's. 336 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: Literally in the name it. It's right there, guys, right there. 337 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Natasha, I hate to pull this to 338 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: a grinding hole, but let's go to a really quick 339 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: break and we'll dive back in on the flip side. 340 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: Let's shift a little bit back to business. This is beautiful, 341 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: but like we are talking business pricing obviously stupidly hard 342 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: for anybody, but you are offering something that people historically 343 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 4: haven't been used to paying for. This is something that 344 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: you know is now being embraced as it should be. 345 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 4: But not only have people not paid for it, they 346 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: haven't included it. How are you figuring out how to 347 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: have those conversations or you know when you do up 348 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 4: a quote and go great, this is my time, my energy, 349 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: my effort, this is what I am worth, full stop. 350 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: End of story. 351 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: Push back from that, Yeah, there was a lot of 352 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: interpersonal stuff that I needed to work on just on 353 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: a surface level. 354 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: But it's more than an acknowledgment. It's more than the 355 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: word itself. It is the energy. It is me as 356 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: a unique being and what I bring to all. 357 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: Of it and anybody else that doesn't acknowledgment, it's always 358 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: going to be different because the person is different. It's 359 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: coming from a different place and experience and embodiment. 360 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: So I've got to stay true to that. 361 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: There's times that I've you know, missed opportunities and lost 362 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: jobs and whatnot, but I've had to trust. 363 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: That this is something that I am honoring and understanding that. 364 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a cultural you know, there's sacredness in that, 365 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: but there's also I'm here to hold true to the 366 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: value and the worth of my time and energy. 367 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: I am a mum, Yeah, and that's like first and 368 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: foremost yes, So I have. 369 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: To make sure that it flow in with my life. 370 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: And there's time I'm you know, spending away from my 371 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: other responsibilities, so I. 372 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: Need except for the sheese on the money even where 373 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: you got to bring your babies. 374 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: And I was like, this is the best. 375 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's been the you know, the beauty of 376 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: it that I've been able to show up authentically. 377 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: Not only do I get Natasha, I get two point 378 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: zero like, oh and there's so cute. So like, I 379 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: just feel like this space is so wildly misunderstood and 380 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 4: I would assume and this is just assumptions. This is 381 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: why we're having these conversations so that you can help 382 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: guide me as well. But there is often this expectation 383 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: that work that we do out of passion is not 384 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 4: for profit, especially women, and then piling on First Nations women, 385 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 4: they have it even harder. There's this expectation that they 386 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 4: would discount their rates or you know, really want to 387 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: work with a client. Have you had people question, ah, 388 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: why would I pay for this or what does that 389 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: look like? And how are you handling this pushback? Because 390 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: I know that you're saying, oh, be like there have 391 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 4: been times where I have lost you know, an opportunity 392 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: to work with a client. I don't think that any 393 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: opportunity that misses you was actually meant for you. Like 394 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: if some reason they came into your own box and 395 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: you said my price was my price and they said 396 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 4: it's too much, like that was not meant to be 397 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: to begin with. And I think letting it go graciously 398 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 4: is really helpful because it's making time and space for 399 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 4: those who do really value the work that you do. 400 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 4: But how do you have to and how do you 401 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: have the energy to consistently navigate those questions of people going, oh, 402 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: I didn't think i'd have to charge for this, or 403 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: you know, expecting it to be less because I even 404 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: working in the finance space, I go, these are my 405 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: workshop chargers who are, oh, well, actually. 406 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: Our budget is this, can you still do it? 407 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: And you're like, well, no, do you think that I 408 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: just pulled that number out of nowhere and I just 409 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: hoped i'd get that and oh yeah, no worries whatever 410 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: you've got in your back pocket or do like that's 411 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: less than ten percent of my fee, Like that is 412 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 4: at this point taking the mickey, Yeah, how are you 413 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 4: having those conversations with people who just maybe feel like, 414 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: why should I pay for this, Natasha. 415 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few things. 416 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: One I feel like, as time goes on, I am 417 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: attracting more of the people who are aligned and see 418 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: the fit of the value and my purpose in it. 419 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: So I am saying, on the path of purpose and profit. Yeah, 420 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: you know, we're on the path of purpose and profit. Yeah, 421 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: purpose and profit. You know, it's been hard. I come 422 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: from a community who, you know, we've always just given. Yeah, 423 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: And I come from a family that we've just always 424 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: just given. And I remember realizing that what do I 425 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: give best is myself myself. So I've had to understand 426 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: that giving myself, I can put a price to that. 427 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: So that makes things work, because let's be real, we 428 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: need money. 429 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: GIF cards don't actually pay your bills. It's a weird flex, 430 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: but they just don't. And at least give me, like 431 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: a beauty, just give me something you actually want as well. Yeah, like, 432 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: give me something that's helpful at least. And you said before, 433 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 4: you know, let me put a price on myself. And 434 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 4: there was always a price. It just wasn't financial. You 435 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: were already paying in your time and your energy and 436 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 4: your effort. And you know, I would imagine that these things, 437 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 4: they nourish you, they get you know, you in the mood. 438 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: But you're still going to go home having performed a 439 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 4: very physical task. You're going to be tired. You did 440 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 4: spend time away from your family. Like, yes, you're putting 441 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 4: a financial price tag on that today, but hystorically, you've 442 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 4: always been paying for it, and now it's other people's 443 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 4: turn to pay for it. 444 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: That's right. 445 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: And I was paying more of a price than anybody 446 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: else was paying me. And that's just how I. 447 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: Was going home. I was burnt, I was spent. 448 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I would have headaches, and I couldn't be present in 449 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: my life for the people who I, you know, loved 450 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: and cherished the most. And that was the biggest price. 451 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: So I said, all right, if I'm going to do this, 452 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to play baby. Yeah, put up the price, 453 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: and if people meet me, then amazing. And if they don't, 454 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: hopefully I can work with them again in the future 455 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: when they come back, and they can. 456 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. So talk to me about work 457 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: life balance. You have two beautiful boys and you have 458 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 3: a mini on the way, you're gonna be or you're 459 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: a mom of three? 460 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, three that's a full car. 461 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, exactly, like you were going to have to 462 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: go to a seven seater at some point, babe, Like 463 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, I wouldn't be mad. And as somebody 464 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: who now has a one year old, I get it, 465 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 4: like I'm going to need some more babies like I 466 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: adore it. But how are you managing work life balance? 467 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: Because personally I'm finding it really challenging, Like I want 468 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: to spend so much more time with Harvey, like I 469 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: just obsessed with him. Yeah, when he falls asleep, I'm 470 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 4: watching videos of him that I took that day on 471 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 4: my phone, Like I never thought i'd be that, mum, Natasha, 472 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: but we hear. So how are you managing work life balance? 473 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 3: What does that look like? 474 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm managing of it. See I 475 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: don't believe in it for me or like it just 476 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: manages itself. Yeah, and I've got a ten year old 477 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: and a two year old, so you know, there's vast 478 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: differences in demand. 479 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: There's a lot of different needs. 480 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 4: You can lump them in and be like you guys 481 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 4: are both going to enjoy duplo because your ten year 482 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 4: old's going to be. 483 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: Like, Mum, what the hell yeah, Yeah, he's more like 484 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: a teenager than anything. So they have seen me since 485 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: they were babies doing what I do, and they know 486 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: it and they respect it, and they trust mommy to 487 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: do what I'm doing because they've seen what it does. 488 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: So I have a great family and partner and support network. 489 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: Does that mean it's easy. Absolutely not. 490 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: I have had moments where I've you know, just wanted 491 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: to curl open a ball, and. 492 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: You call me and I will deal with it. You 493 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 3: call me. Anybody pushing back in your emails, I write 494 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: a nasty one. 495 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: Oh. And I also have, you know, been able to 496 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: grow in my business with people in a team, and 497 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: I have my wing woman who just comes in and 498 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: helps me out. So having people in your network, whether 499 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: it's somebody that works for you or just some one 500 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: that you can call and say, hey, I need this, 501 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: or can I ask you this, or can I tell 502 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: you this and this, because what you're feeling is real 503 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: and life's always not gonna. 504 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 2: Look like pretty Instagram reels. 505 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, But we're so good at making them 506 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: and lulling well into this false belief that that's my 507 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: entire life, right, And I think that that's the reality 508 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: of it. Have you found a really beautiful network of 509 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 4: people to support you in that way? 510 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 511 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: I have in many facets physically, emotionally, spiritually, culturally, financially, family. 512 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: And has that shifted and changed and grown and stretched 513 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: and shrunk over time. 514 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: As I've changed and evolved and grown into the person 515 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: that I want to be, people in my circle change. 516 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 517 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 4: It's wild, isn't it any People that you thought were 518 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: going to be around forever? 519 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 520 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 4: Wow, we not not you just haven't disappeared, but like 521 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 4: you just don't align with anything I stand for anymore. 522 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 523 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: And I think when you are in business, especially as 524 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: a woman, it can feel lonely. 525 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 526 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: You know, and I've felt those moments in my life 527 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: throughout ten years of trying to figure this out. But 528 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: it's trusting your conviction and your purpose more than the 529 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: challenge that you face in the moment. 530 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 531 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: And people will show up. People will show up when 532 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: sometimes you're not even looking or expecting it. 533 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 534 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 4: I love that you mentioned before that your kids see 535 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: respect what you do, Like they know they trust mom 536 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: to go and do her work. What are you hoping 537 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: that they take away from this? Like you mentioned before, 538 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: like vie. I didn't go to school to learn this stuff, 539 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: but like they're getting an education by watching mum, like 540 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: start a business, like a mom can do it. Like, 541 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: I feel like you're teaching them so much. But what 542 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: are your hopes for what they take away from watching 543 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: you do this? 544 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 545 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: The legacy that I want to leave is. 546 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: The wealth and knowledge instilled in my children that they 547 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: can thrive in both ways eld Yeah, and that being 548 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: culture and that being in the world of business and 549 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: making a life for themselves in however that fits, and 550 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: that they don't have to fit into any boxes. Yeah. 551 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: And if they want to make a pathway of sharing 552 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: their culture and their connection, they can do so. And 553 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: if they don't, then they get to choose. So fine, 554 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: they've got the choice. 555 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: They get to choose, and the choice is their's. 556 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: I love that so much. 557 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 4: Talk to me, you said before, you know, it's not 558 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 4: all pretty Instagram reels? What's the day in the life 559 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: actually look like. 560 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: You're like, I don't really know. 561 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 4: I'm the same, Like, what day do you want? Because 562 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: Wednesday I'm in a studio all day. Thursday, who knows 563 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: what I'm up to? 564 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: Like, I don't even know for me, I try and 565 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: have my mornings and nighttime routines very the same love 566 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: that I was a free spe We're at a gypsy 567 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: that would just do anything and anything wherever it would 568 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: call me. I would be, you know, at any different place, 569 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: at any different day. But these days I'm grounded. I'm 570 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: committed to my practice that connects me to my. 571 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: Body holy like wholeheartedly mind, body and spirit. 572 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: So I meditate in the morning, and my children usually 573 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: gravitate towards me, and then once I know that the present, 574 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: it's like mum mode until the children are settled and 575 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: eating and quiet, and then I go into work mode. 576 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: And workdays. Each day are different because the demands are different. 577 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm still in the emails, you know, 578 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: so still. 579 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: Very humbled by the work that I get to do. 580 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: And then some days I look glamorous and I'm on 581 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: stage in front of thousands of people. 582 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 3: That's very cool. 583 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 4: But then other times you're just meditating in your loungdream 584 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 4: and your kids climbing all over. 585 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 586 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love that there's hair's mess and. 587 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: Look, honestly, I don't trust people who have it together 588 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 4: all the time. Oh have you got perfect hair? All 589 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: the time, Like I know that my photos online make 590 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: me look like that I do not. I look like 591 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 4: I have a rat snares most of the time. And 592 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 4: you know what, that's why you can trust me. Yeah, yeah, 593 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 4: that's why talk to me about I feel like, you know, 594 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: throughout your journey, there would have been things that you 595 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 4: know stressed you out in the early days. Is there 596 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 4: something looking back you're like, oh, my goodness, b I 597 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 4: was so stressed about this, and now I look back, 598 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 4: it didn't even master Like, yeah, have you had those 599 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 4: moments where you're like, I don't know why I gave 600 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: that so much energy? 601 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: It literally means nothing today. 602 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, two big things stand out for me. One pricing. 603 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, if I do this, no one's 604 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna like me and want to buy from me and 605 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: think that I'm you know, all these things that I'd 606 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: had internalized of my own judgments right to myself and 607 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: thinking that I couldn't do it and it wasn't possible. 608 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: But as soon as you do it and somebody purchases 609 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: or you know, books and should I be charging more? 610 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: You know, having this mini panic attack and then you know, 611 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 1: as soon as you get there, everything just feels easy, 612 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: and you know, I've had moments where I'm like, can 613 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: this really be my life? 614 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: Is this real life? Is this what I get to do? 615 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: This? 616 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: And a great yeah? 617 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: So and I get to go to fancy fun events 618 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: and connect you would, yeah people, and I'm just like, 619 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: this is my life. And one time, you know, I've 620 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: had my partner there with me, and you know it 621 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: is it has been a family affair sometimes that we've had, 622 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, my parents involved, and it's just like I 623 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: get to spend time with my family and make money 624 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: and be of service and have impact. 625 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: So that's a good deal. 626 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, sign me up for that. I want 627 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: more of that. So that was one and then the 628 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: other one was social media. 629 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: Okay, talk to me about social media. 630 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: Social media is a platform where you're out there for 631 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: people to see you and hear you and or open 632 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: to their judgments and opinions. 633 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: And I remember being really afraid of it wasn't being 634 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: out there, but it was being myself. Okay out there. 635 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: You're like, you can put pictures in me everywhere, but 636 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 4: like showing you who I really am. And that's a difference. 637 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: I can pick the best one, you know, the one 638 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: that looks the most prettiest. It be so good at that, right, Yeah, 639 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: you know the photoshopping or whatever that looked like back then. 640 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: But now I'm like, let's just in real life showing 641 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: up because the reactions and responses that I get from 642 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: particularly women and mothers, they're just like I needed that, Yes, 643 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: I needed to hear that, and I needed to see 644 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: you show up in that because that's what's going on 645 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: for me too, and the connections that I've made from 646 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: showing up authentically as myself, I'm now addicted to it. 647 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, and it just gets better and better. 648 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. 649 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: Like it's wild how much emphasis we put on the 650 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: value of someone's opinion that's an individual we'd never want 651 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 4: to trade places with. Yeah, and you're like, hold on, 652 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: why am I valuing that opinion at all? When I 653 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 4: don't want to be anything like them? Like why am 654 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: I taking feedback from a place that doesn't get me? 655 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: Yeah? 656 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 4: And so I think that's very hard and it's genuinely 657 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 4: still something that I struggle with, like im and I 658 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: think as you grow, like your business grows and changes 659 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 4: and things ebb and flow, I go through periods of 660 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: being really confident and putting lots of content out and 661 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 4: then you're like, oh, this is actually really big and 662 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: you kind of like feel yourself pulling back and you 663 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 4: have to like do some more inner ware and be like, well, 664 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: why am I feeling this way? And it might be 665 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 4: because it's become overwhelming again, or maybe you did get 666 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 4: some negative feedback and you took it on board that 667 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: you needed to zoom. 668 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: Out and go. 669 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 4: Actually that was so not valid, Like that was you know, 670 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: I like to look at all pieces of feedback and go, 671 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 4: you know, can I learn something from this? Because you know, 672 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: the loudest voices they might not be correct, but consistency 673 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 4: is what I look for. Yeah, so I think that, 674 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 4: you know, if someone's consistently saying X or Y, I'm like, okay, cool, 675 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: Like where's this coming from? 676 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: Is this something that I could learn from? 677 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: Grow from? 678 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: Change and let's implement that. 679 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 4: And that can be hard in itself, because like we 680 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 4: don't like being told we're wrong, we don't like feeling 681 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: like we're doing the wrong thing or like we do 682 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 4: need to change, but that can be liberating in itself, 683 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 4: and I just I resonate so much with that because 684 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 4: it's just so relevant. 685 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the as time goes on, the more I've 686 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: felt confident in who it is that i am. And 687 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: there's many parts of me. Yeah, I play many roles, 688 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, and Natasha just gets to be all of 689 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: them at any given moment. But there's been times, especially culturally, 690 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, there's cultural protocols and you know, different areas 691 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: and mobs do different things, and I'm learning. 692 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: I am no expert, no. 693 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: Guru in this this life and field and you know, 694 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: subject of culture by all means. So yeah, I've had 695 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: moments where people have come to me, checked me, and 696 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: I always go back to my family, and you know, 697 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: there's go. 698 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 2: Back to yourself. 699 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 3: You can go back. So I heard this and. 700 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: Always open with a curious mind and an open heart, 701 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: like I said, to learn and receive, you know, feedback 702 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: and take from that what works. And also if you 703 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: know who you are and where you come from, like 704 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: that's a really good place to be and start and 705 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: to always go back to whenever you need. 706 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it can be overwhelming, especially if 707 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 4: you're a woman in business like you just you're already 708 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 4: putting yourself out there. That feels really unnatural. But I 709 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 4: think I make peace with the fact that I know 710 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: inherently I'm good, I am kind. Everything I'm doing is 711 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 4: coming from a place of love, and at the end 712 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 4: of the day, yes, I'm not going to be a 713 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 4: correct one hundred percent of the time. In fact, if 714 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 4: I think I know everything, I need to get out 715 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 4: of the game, because like this game is always moving. Yeah, 716 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 4: And so I think if I'm always doing it with 717 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 4: the right intentions, that's always going to ultimately shine through. 718 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 2: That's right. 719 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 3: And I think that that really helps me go. 720 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 4: No, even if I'm turning up and I say something 721 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 4: silly online or do this or do that, like go 722 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 4: back to my roots. You know that inherently I'm operating 723 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 4: in good faith, And I think, to me, that's the 724 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 4: most important thing. 725 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: Talk to me. I know that I'm running out of 726 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 3: time with you, and I hate that. 727 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: Talk to me about what you. 728 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 4: Think is the most important skill that you have that 729 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 4: has led to success in your business. 730 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: Adaptability. 731 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I love that she's so quick at that response. 732 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 3: She's adaptable. 733 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: Like you said, there's always things changing, moving, evolving. Things 734 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: become relevant and irrelevant very quickly. In this time, we're 735 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: just learning to be adaptable. Assessing the moment. Every room 736 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: that I step in to do what I do is different, 737 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: even if there are a bunch of women in each room. 738 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's each different. 739 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: Woman has an energy, you know, like that. 740 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: You're doing the event for every event's different. So just 741 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: being able to adapt the energy to that has been 742 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: a skill that I've grown over time. And I love 743 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: that because it's so relevant. 744 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 4: But it's also so hard to hone in on, Like 745 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 4: that is not something that is easy, and like, as 746 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 4: somebody who hates change, like, I need to learn more 747 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 4: from you about being more adaptable because that's not usually 748 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 4: for me. Now for First Nations women and people who 749 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 4: are listening to this and they're like, my goodness, like 750 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 4: I'd love to do what Natasha does. What advice do 751 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 4: you have for them? Because obviously you're not going to 752 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 4: get into this space if you don't have that background. 753 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 4: But then also I feel like I speak to so 754 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 4: many beautiful people in our community who are First Nations women, 755 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 4: and they, you know, they just don't have the confidence 756 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 4: they deserve to have, Like you are so powerful and 757 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 4: so beautiful and if you just stepped out, like you 758 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 4: could be exactly who you say you want to be. 759 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see this, see this in my family and 760 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: my community. 761 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: There are sisters out there that have got it, that 762 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: have got magic. You know, we call that, you know, 763 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: black magic. You've got a gift, You've got something to give, 764 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: and each person does. 765 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: But to my sisters, I would. 766 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: Just say, follow the calling, trust yourself. You're here for 767 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: a purpose and a greater purpose at that that we 768 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: come from sixty five thousand plus years of lineage, ancestry 769 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: and warriors. And if you feel a calling to share that, 770 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: then find women who are already doing it, get connected, 771 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: get them a part of your network. And sometimes we 772 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: just have to like copy and paste and then put 773 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: our own essence into it, you know. 774 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: Like follow what works. 775 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 3: I say, you don't need to reinvent the wheel. 776 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 2: No, like jump on the things that are. 777 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: Already moving and working and put your own self, story, 778 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: essence and flavor into it because no one is you, 779 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: and you're going to bring something different to every room 780 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: and experience. 781 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 2: I love that that is. 782 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 3: Genuinely so powerful. 783 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 4: Feel like this whole conversation has felt like people who listen, 784 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 4: I feel like they're just going to feel your energy. 785 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 4: They're going to feel grounded, they're going to feel like 786 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 4: this was really really powerful for them. And I feel 787 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 4: like we've covered so much. We've discussed, you know, the 788 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 4: different challenges you've faced in your business. We've talked about pricing. 789 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 4: We've talked about, you know, how to get people around 790 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 4: when it comes to acknowledgments of country and making sure 791 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 4: that you are actually acknowledging the country. We've talked about, 792 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 4: I guess the financial realities of like not getting paid 793 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 4: and potentially losing clients because we're just going to put 794 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 4: some boundaries in place, and that's so important. But I 795 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 4: think you and I can both agree the more you 796 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 4: put those boundaries in place, the more the right clients 797 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 4: find you. That's right, Like it's crazy you say no 798 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 4: to people and you're like, oh my goodness, am I 799 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 4: doing the right thing? And then around the corner there 800 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 4: is another client that is bigger and better and exactly 801 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 4: what you were looking for. Like, it's crazy how that works. 802 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 4: And I think people often don't understand the value and 803 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 4: the reality of running business and also being a mum. 804 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 4: I am learning real quick. You have been doing this 805 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 4: for ten years, and I just I'm so grateful to 806 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 4: have you share your story. With our community, but also 807 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 4: kind of just a little bit of a mentor today. 808 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 4: So I'm grateful for that. 809 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 810 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you for having me of course, my goodness, 811 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 4: I feel like that is a perfect place to end, Natasha. 812 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 4: I adore this, and I feel like, honestly one of 813 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 4: the most powerful Business Bible episodes I've ever done. But 814 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 4: for anyone who's listening, thinking, holy moly, this woman does 815 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 4: have that energy, she does have that vibe. I need 816 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 4: more of her in my life. Where can I find 817 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 4: the Queen of Acknowledgments? 818 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: You can find Queen of Acknowledgments on Instagram, as the 819 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: name suggests, Queen Acknowledgments, or on my website, and I 820 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: look forward to. 821 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 3: All the in any of our Yeah, she's right there, guys. 822 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: Or you might find me on stage at an event 823 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: you find yourself. 824 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 2: If you should be so lucky, Yasha, please come and 825 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 2: say hello, because I'd love to give this piece. 826 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 827 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 4: All right, well, I'm going to link literally everything in 828 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 4: the show notes. You're in all the other show notes 829 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 4: as well. This has been a really inspiring conversation, and 830 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 4: I know so many of our listeners are going to 831 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 4: take so much from it. If you guys love today's episode, 832 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 4: make sure that you follow and subscribe to the Business 833 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 4: Bible for more business stories. 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