1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Sam, let's go down to the Jonesy no matter of arms, 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: it's the only thing open right now and discuss on 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: the pub test. Total lockdown? 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Does it pass the pub test? A number of people 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: are calling for total lockdown. 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 3: Lisa Wilkinson Route an open letter to the Prime Minister 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 3: yesterday saying lock us down. 9 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Do it. 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: The rules are a bit arbitrary. Five people at a wedding, 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: ten at a funeral. The hard thing is, we will 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: only flatten the curve if eight out of ten Australians 13 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: stay home seven out of ten Australians. 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: We don't flatten the curve severely enough. 15 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: So there is some thinking that we need to go 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: hard right now, and therefore we may not have to 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: be in this for six months. We may flatten our 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: curve earlier and come out of it earlier. 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Sure, but total lockdown that's hard. That's very hard. That 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: no one wants total lockdown for yourself. 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: So you look at us, so you're lockdown at the 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: moment you're at home. 23 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm here, not lockdown. 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: I can leave home and go to the shop, and 25 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: I can drive to appointments and stuff. 26 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm probably not going to That's what I mean. 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: So this is where it comes down to, See everyone's 28 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: asking for the government to do something. Why can't we 29 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: just be responsible for ourselves. So you just answered your 30 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: own question. You're at home. You've made that choice to 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: stay at home. 32 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: Well, I've got a cold, that's why I'm going. 33 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: But you've made the choice to stay at home. You're 34 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: not going to the shops. You're not going to jewelry 35 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: shops to look at stuff, you know most times. But 36 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: what I mean is, if we could all do that, 37 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: I've changed my life. All I do is I go 38 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: from work to home. I might drop in and see 39 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: my mom's if she say okay, and that actually said that. 40 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: I know. 41 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: But hairdressers are still open, Shopping shop shops are still open. 42 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: But you can go clothes shopping if you want to go. 43 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: So that's what people who are calling for the lockdown 44 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: is make this a directive for us, because if you 45 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: leave it to people, we're not going to get eight 46 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: out of ten hearts. 47 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: Banks that's everything. So they do lockdown. That means we're 48 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: not paying mortgages when no one's paying rent. It's a 49 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: big deal, which. 50 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: Is why Scott Morrison has chosen not to do it 51 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: just Cinda and Herder has brought it in overnight in 52 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: New Zealand. But maybe this big deal if you look 53 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: at how they've done it overseas, they've left it too 54 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: late to do this. 55 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: I'll be interested to know what you think. 56 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: It's just a bit rich for Lisa Wilkinson to say 57 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: lockdown everyone again. I wash my hands, but I don't 58 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: think it's that easy, is what I'm saying. What about Well, 59 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: who's going to enforce it? Police, doctors, nurses. You know 60 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: it's easy to say this stuff, but in reality we've 61 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: got to deal with it. 62 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: Well. 63 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: Other people are doing this, Other countries are doing it, 64 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: and they're wishing they'd done it early. 65 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: It's not easy for anyone. 66 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: Not easy is much smaller than ours. 67 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: Look at Europe, they're in lockdown and they've left it 68 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: too late. No one is saying this is easy. No 69 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: one is. But you have to make it hard for 70 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: us all to get through it. 71 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: What your problem is with this, We've just got too 72 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: much information, That's my thing. 73 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: One has an opinion and everyone has an opinion. 74 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: When coronavirus, when US swine flu came through in two 75 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: thousand and nine, it was as bad as what we're 76 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: going through now. In two thousand and nine, there were 77 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: six hundred cases a week of people going through hospital 78 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: with swine flu. There was two hundred and twenty thousand 79 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: Australians affected with swine flu in two thousand and nine. Okay, 80 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: these are the facts about that. 81 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: So are you saying we should do nothing but we 82 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: did that. 83 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: I'm not seeing this is where everyone's going. 84 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: Media people are getting so hysterical about this. 85 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: But there's too many people with information at hand, but 86 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: they're not using it and they're getting panicky about it. 87 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: But it's conflicting information. 88 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: Yes, so stay home, but you can go and get 89 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: a haircut and the clothes shops are over. 90 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Okay, you look at your house. 91 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: Look at your house. How many people need to go 92 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: out of your house right now? 93 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Well, Jack's going to school, he doesn't have to, but 94 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: he's choosing to. 95 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: Lilliams at home. You're at home. 96 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: Liam's about to go back to UNI, but probably to 97 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: pack up. We could be at home. 98 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: But if we're lucky, all my family had no reason 99 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: to leave the house. 100 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: But you're lucky too. 101 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: Say if everyone was like that, if everyone thought like that, 102 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: then we'd be okay, you'd get your aid out of 103 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: ten if. 104 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: We just were not. 105 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: That's why people are suggesting we need lockdown because people 106 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: aren't going to do it. 107 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: It's a tough one and it's not as easy as 108 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: just saying let's go into lockdown, and no. 109 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: One's saying it's easy. No one's saying it's easy. Total lockdown. 110 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: Does it pass the pub test? Join the and Amanda 111 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: good Morning on seven Tell You