WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Is Single The New Relationship? Is Online Dating Dead? 0:00:10.379 --> 0:00:11.859 Hi heart Podcasts. 0:00:12.019 --> 0:00:14.819 Hear my Kiss podcast playlist and listen live on the 0:00:14.819 --> 0:00:16.099 Free iHeart app. 0:00:18.339 --> 0:00:22.979 A good Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura ben Bady. 0:00:23.379 --> 0:00:27.739 What our windows down? That's my world? Rison the dust 0:00:27.939 --> 0:00:33.099 only good labs all down. I don't much, but yeah 0:00:33.179 --> 0:00:36.098 I know I'll big get and what I want it 0:00:36.139 --> 0:00:38.858 don't matter where goes. This is the pickup. 0:00:39.259 --> 0:00:41.739 Hi, guys, you're listening to the Pickup with Britt Hockley 0:00:41.739 --> 0:00:43.219 and Laura ben Laws. 0:00:43.259 --> 0:00:45.139 I was just talking to my husband Ben on the 0:00:45.139 --> 0:00:47.979 way in here, and I always get a real insight 0:00:48.099 --> 0:00:50.979 into like the male mind when I talk to him 0:00:50.979 --> 0:00:53.619 because he plays football, so he's always surrounded by like 0:00:53.699 --> 0:00:56.299 thirty to forty guys. They spend all their time together 0:00:56.779 --> 0:00:59.899 locker room chat. Yeah, locker room chat, but it's always interesting. 0:01:00.019 --> 0:01:02.099 Sometimes it's not what you think the locker room chat 0:01:02.099 --> 0:01:04.659 would be. Anyway. I was like house today and so, yeah, 0:01:04.658 --> 0:01:07.378 we were having some interesting conversations today, so do please 0:01:07.419 --> 0:01:10.139 do tell? And he said, oh, it came up, would 0:01:10.219 --> 0:01:14.179 you take a bullet for your partner? Like that's that's 0:01:14.219 --> 0:01:17.379 the good the question that they that they answered, And 0:01:17.378 --> 0:01:19.499 I said, oh, that's the strange thing to be talking about. 0:01:19.578 --> 0:01:22.298 He's like, yeah, I said, well, where though, where's the 0:01:22.298 --> 0:01:24.659 bullet going? Well? Is it? Is it lethal? Or is 0:01:24.699 --> 0:01:27.059 it just like it's in the leg. That is a 0:01:27.098 --> 0:01:30.018 woman's response. I think they mean like you'd probably die. 0:01:30.098 --> 0:01:32.499 I think I think the meaning like you're sacrificing yourself. 0:01:33.259 --> 0:01:36.938 I know, and in my head, assuming that you know, 0:01:37.018 --> 0:01:39.178 the answer would be of course, I said what was 0:01:39.298 --> 0:01:41.738 what was the response? And he said only two people 0:01:41.859 --> 0:01:44.779 said that they would, fair. I don't think many people 0:01:44.818 --> 0:01:48.179 would actually, well, Ben said he would, but I'll never 0:01:48.219 --> 0:01:50.299 know the truth. I just think it's very. 0:01:50.259 --> 0:01:52.819 Easy to say how you're going to behave in those situations, 0:01:52.819 --> 0:01:55.139 and then if push comes to shave, you'll either be 0:01:55.179 --> 0:01:55.739 the hero or. 0:01:55.739 --> 0:01:57.659 You're going to run away like it's it's you're never 0:01:57.699 --> 0:02:02.139 going to know. It is our favorite time ask gunkut. 0:02:02.139 --> 0:02:04.019 We do this every single week on our podcast Life 0:02:04.099 --> 0:02:06.939 un Cut podcast. You guys writing or call up with 0:02:07.019 --> 0:02:10.339 your deepest, darkest problems predicaments. But today we have one 0:02:10.339 --> 0:02:12.978 we haven't really had before. We have Casey on the line, 0:02:13.059 --> 0:02:15.779 who is having a bit of a problem deciding what 0:02:15.819 --> 0:02:20.019 comes first, a baby or a dog. Casey, Welcome to 0:02:20.059 --> 0:02:21.578 the show talk us through the situation. 0:02:22.978 --> 0:02:27.659 So basically, I would really love a dog, and my 0:02:27.899 --> 0:02:31.939 partner is super hesitant because they want to get pregnant. 0:02:32.258 --> 0:02:34.059 I don't understand why you have to have a baby 0:02:34.138 --> 0:02:34.499 or a dog. 0:02:34.579 --> 0:02:36.099 Is the dog a puppy and you're wanting to do 0:02:36.099 --> 0:02:37.418 it at the same time, because that would be. 0:02:37.339 --> 0:02:39.739 A lot Well, no, it would be a puppy. We 0:02:39.779 --> 0:02:43.819 would have it like a year beforehand. But they're afraid 0:02:44.099 --> 0:02:48.059 that we're gonna stop loving the dog, or that it's 0:02:48.059 --> 0:02:51.179 going to be too hard for us. But I also 0:02:51.219 --> 0:02:52.499 see it as a bit of a test. 0:02:53.379 --> 0:02:55.059 It will be a test, for sure. I don't think 0:02:55.099 --> 0:02:57.099 you're gonna stop. I mean, I don't have a kid. 0:02:57.179 --> 0:02:59.819 Laura has a multiple kids and a dog. But I 0:02:59.819 --> 0:03:01.939 don't think you're gonna stop loving the dog. But it 0:03:02.059 --> 0:03:03.979 is a lot to be taking on because a puppy 0:03:04.019 --> 0:03:07.099 is really hard work, and puppies aren't puppies for like 0:03:07.138 --> 0:03:07.858 two or three months. 0:03:07.899 --> 0:03:11.659 Puppies can be Yeah, I mean it's interesting because no 0:03:11.698 --> 0:03:13.819 one wants to admit that. Like like when I had 0:03:13.859 --> 0:03:17.018 Buster so Busses, my dog. I had him for quite 0:03:17.059 --> 0:03:20.258 a few years before having children, and he was he 0:03:20.299 --> 0:03:23.139 came with me everywhere, Like everything I did, Buster just 0:03:23.258 --> 0:03:25.899 was in tow all the time. That became a little 0:03:25.939 --> 0:03:27.979 bit trickier to manage when I had a baby. So 0:03:28.418 --> 0:03:30.418 you know, of course he still gets all the love, 0:03:30.459 --> 0:03:33.299 he gets all the attention, but he wasn't as much 0:03:33.379 --> 0:03:36.459 as in like if I was dragging around a pram 0:03:36.579 --> 0:03:38.619 and the baby and then having to get from one 0:03:38.619 --> 0:03:40.139 place to another, the pram was. 0:03:40.059 --> 0:03:40.458 In the back. 0:03:40.499 --> 0:03:41.899 There was no space for the dog to be in 0:03:41.899 --> 0:03:45.059 the back. Mind you, he's also enormous, And I want 0:03:45.059 --> 0:03:46.859 to be careful about saying this. I know there's gonna 0:03:46.859 --> 0:03:48.259 be so many people here and who are like, you 0:03:48.259 --> 0:03:51.099 should not treat your dog any different. Of course in 0:03:51.139 --> 0:03:53.939 a perfect world, but like there's less time for everyone 0:03:54.019 --> 0:03:56.499 because you're bringing in a whole human into the world. 0:03:57.619 --> 0:04:00.819 So for a lot of people, it deprioritizes a little bit, 0:04:01.099 --> 0:04:03.099 but you don't love them any less, and it rebalances 0:04:03.139 --> 0:04:05.379 once you get a grip on the whole motherhood thing 0:04:05.419 --> 0:04:07.539 and you and you figure it out and you find 0:04:07.539 --> 0:04:10.779 your feet and then you know. And now in our situation, 0:04:10.819 --> 0:04:12.859 we've got two kids and our dog adapted. 0:04:13.019 --> 0:04:14.979 He's eleven. He loves life and now he's got two 0:04:15.059 --> 0:04:18.019 kids terrorizing. I think that's the thing. Laws he's eleven, 0:04:18.299 --> 0:04:19.939 and so even when you started having kids, he was 0:04:19.979 --> 0:04:22.859 quite old six at the time. Is there a way 0:04:22.899 --> 0:04:24.739 you could maybe adopt a dog that's not a puppy, 0:04:24.819 --> 0:04:26.499 or get, you know, a dog that's a little bit 0:04:26.539 --> 0:04:29.779 older in life, that's not as needy and as energetic 0:04:30.019 --> 0:04:30.499 as you know. 0:04:31.419 --> 0:04:34.259 I mean, that's not a bad idea, that's a good compromise. 0:04:34.379 --> 0:04:37.099 But I think the idea of having a puppy is 0:04:37.139 --> 0:04:39.459 seeing how he raised something together. 0:04:40.619 --> 0:04:43.819 Different a baby dog and a baby human. 0:04:43.859 --> 0:04:49.939 They're so different. They yes, yeah, they are, they really are. Controversially, 0:04:50.019 --> 0:04:50.619 I reckon. 0:04:50.379 --> 0:04:52.259 A puppy is sometimes harder than a human. 0:04:52.579 --> 0:04:55.739 I really do. They're harder to like just I know, 0:04:55.779 --> 0:04:57.178 you can kind of leave them at home and stuff 0:04:57.179 --> 0:04:57.339 like that. 0:04:57.419 --> 0:04:59.459 You come home, they've eaten through your underwear, They've pissed 0:04:59.499 --> 0:05:00.099 on your laptop. 0:05:00.179 --> 0:05:02.499 Like puppies are hard work. Yeah, I would agree. 0:05:03.299 --> 0:05:05.019 Okay, so what's the decision here? 0:05:06.739 --> 0:05:10.339 Advice? My advice is get a dog, for sure, because 0:05:10.539 --> 0:05:12.139 you know, my dog is the best thing in my life. 0:05:12.179 --> 0:05:15.139 Get a dog. I just don't think you should probably 0:05:15.219 --> 0:05:17.219 be having a baby and a dog at the exact 0:05:17.259 --> 0:05:21.059 same time. The way you train your puppy is like 0:05:21.499 --> 0:05:24.379 instrumental in for that dog's the rest of its life. 0:05:24.419 --> 0:05:26.219 Like the way how easy it is for you in 0:05:26.259 --> 0:05:27.859 your day to day, how well it's trained, how well 0:05:27.859 --> 0:05:30.139 it obeys you, Like the way you set up your dog. 0:05:30.179 --> 0:05:32.219 And I hate saying set up, but it's so true 0:05:32.619 --> 0:05:35.259 that makes the rest of its life, you know, make 0:05:35.379 --> 0:05:38.139 or break. I'm confused. Is it you who wants the puppy? 0:05:39.259 --> 0:05:43.179 So I want the puppy, but she thinks it's going 0:05:43.219 --> 0:05:46.619 to be too much work, and I think it's a 0:05:46.659 --> 0:05:47.178 good test. 0:05:47.779 --> 0:05:48.299 It might be. 0:05:48.339 --> 0:05:49.499 Who do you think is going to end up doing 0:05:49.499 --> 0:05:51.059 the majority share of the puppy load? 0:05:51.779 --> 0:05:51.819 Me? 0:05:52.579 --> 0:05:53.059 You reckon? 0:05:54.979 --> 0:05:55.259 All right? 0:05:55.339 --> 0:05:57.699 Well, maybe look it might work. Good luck, that's all 0:05:57.739 --> 0:05:59.819 I have to say. Good luck. A baby and a 0:05:59.859 --> 0:06:00.899 puppy is hard work. 0:06:03.099 --> 0:06:07.299 Now we are asking the question is online dating dead? 0:06:07.619 --> 0:06:09.499 And the reason for this is because there has been 0:06:09.539 --> 0:06:11.259 some figures that's come out that said there has been 0:06:11.299 --> 0:06:14.099 a huge decline not just in the amount of people 0:06:14.139 --> 0:06:17.339 who are using online dating apps, but also I mean 0:06:17.379 --> 0:06:18.779 bumble has come out and said that they've had to 0:06:18.819 --> 0:06:22.339 lay off like massive amounts of their workforce because simply 0:06:22.379 --> 0:06:23.979 the apps are not as popular as what they used 0:06:23.979 --> 0:06:27.139 to be, say, five, ten years ago. The interesting thing 0:06:27.179 --> 0:06:30.059 about this is that literally everyone in this room has 0:06:30.099 --> 0:06:33.099 met their partners via a dating app except for me. 0:06:33.179 --> 0:06:34.739 I met him on a reality TV show, which I 0:06:34.739 --> 0:06:35.819 would say is one step worse. 0:06:36.539 --> 0:06:40.219 Yeah, definitely not the same. No, but don't get me wrong. 0:06:40.259 --> 0:06:43.779 I exhausted all the dating apps, every single one, and 0:06:43.819 --> 0:06:45.539 then I went on a reality TV show to meet 0:06:45.539 --> 0:06:47.139 someone because I couldn't find them on the apps. 0:06:47.219 --> 0:06:51.099 Yeah, three of us here online dating. My sister got 0:06:51.099 --> 0:06:55.299 married from Tinder. So many people I know are in 0:06:55.339 --> 0:06:58.299 relationships on actually more people than not that I know 0:06:58.379 --> 0:07:01.339 in my life are in relationships based off online dating. 0:07:01.739 --> 0:07:03.139 But just like you said, Laura, to give you a 0:07:03.179 --> 0:07:06.339 statistic match group who own Tinder and then Bumble is 0:07:06.339 --> 0:07:08.979 independent of that, but have laid off like two percent 0:07:08.979 --> 0:07:10.899 of their staff and CEOs in the last year to 0:07:10.939 --> 0:07:14.819 eighteen months. That I think comes back to not only 0:07:14.859 --> 0:07:18.059 the fact that people are finding online dating hard and 0:07:18.139 --> 0:07:23.299 hopeless and unsuccessful, but they're starting to charge for online 0:07:23.379 --> 0:07:26.099 dating now like online dating used to be free, or 0:07:26.139 --> 0:07:28.499 maybe you would pay like two dollars to unlock an 0:07:28.499 --> 0:07:31.739 extra feature. It is so expensive now to online date. 0:07:31.779 --> 0:07:33.899 You need subscriptions or you're not going to be shown 0:07:33.939 --> 0:07:36.019 to people. Do you want to boost your profile to 0:07:36.019 --> 0:07:38.379 make sure the top people see you pay forty dollars 0:07:38.419 --> 0:07:38.739 a month. 0:07:38.779 --> 0:07:41.019 I would have thought people would have paid for romance 0:07:41.059 --> 0:07:42.419 like you would have paid for love. But maybe it's 0:07:42.419 --> 0:07:44.739 because they're not having the success right, Like people are 0:07:44.739 --> 0:07:46.979 paying for a certain amount of time and then they're 0:07:47.019 --> 0:07:49.539 not getting any return on that investment because they're not 0:07:49.579 --> 0:07:51.939 going on dates. Yeah, people are maybe like sending a 0:07:51.939 --> 0:07:53.979 few messages and then you get left on red or 0:07:54.059 --> 0:07:56.739 like someone's hot then they're cold. I remember back in 0:07:56.779 --> 0:07:59.059 the day, you would only pay if you'd exhausted everyone 0:07:59.099 --> 0:08:01.419 in your area and you needed more people. You could 0:08:01.419 --> 0:08:03.939 pay to like extend your area out. That's how like 0:08:03.979 --> 0:08:06.419 they would make more. I guess incidental revenue. 0:08:06.579 --> 0:08:10.059 I mean I paid to meet my husband. That sounds weird. 0:08:10.059 --> 0:08:11.859 But the dating app that I was on, which was rare, 0:08:12.939 --> 0:08:15.859 was like a subscription service. You had to pay monthly 0:08:15.939 --> 0:08:18.059 to be on it. But I think what that did 0:08:18.339 --> 0:08:20.019 I mean? And maybe it was ahead of its time 0:08:20.099 --> 0:08:22.939 because you definitely did pay for that much earlier than 0:08:22.979 --> 0:08:25.499 I paid for Tinder or bumble, and I have paid 0:08:25.499 --> 0:08:28.219 for them all. I was online dating for like a decade, 0:08:28.259 --> 0:08:31.899 and I had every app besides like the og you know, 0:08:31.939 --> 0:08:34.019 like plenty of fish and stuff like. I didn't have those, 0:08:34.619 --> 0:08:37.779 but I saw the creep of every app slowly start 0:08:37.859 --> 0:08:41.059 to bring in a monetary value. Yeah, and the problem 0:08:41.179 --> 0:08:45.099 is people now that they're paying it's a product, and 0:08:45.139 --> 0:08:47.979 you are not getting anything from your product. So people 0:08:47.979 --> 0:08:51.059 are paying x amount a month and seventy percent of 0:08:51.059 --> 0:08:52.139 people are not meeting people. 0:08:52.139 --> 0:08:54.899 Well that's the thing, right, So seven and ten users 0:08:55.059 --> 0:08:59.019 report that their conversations rarely ever like actually turned into 0:08:59.019 --> 0:09:01.459 actual dates, which if you're then paying for that service 0:09:01.499 --> 0:09:02.899 and you're not getting a date out of it, like 0:09:02.899 --> 0:09:05.699 that would be so incredibly deflating. Also for the people 0:09:05.699 --> 0:09:08.699 who were swipes swiping, putting in so much energy not 0:09:08.699 --> 0:09:11.779 getting the matches or not getting any conversations, like what 0:09:11.819 --> 0:09:13.139 that does to your self esteem. 0:09:13.419 --> 0:09:14.779 But there's also a second part of this. 0:09:15.419 --> 0:09:17.739 I think on one hand, we can talk about people 0:09:17.779 --> 0:09:19.699 moving away from the abs and how people are trying 0:09:19.699 --> 0:09:21.739 to meet in real life and blah blah blah, But 0:09:21.819 --> 0:09:23.819 I also think that there is a massive push now 0:09:24.379 --> 0:09:26.979 of people who are choosing to be single and not 0:09:27.019 --> 0:09:29.979 out of loneliness, not because it's a last resort, but 0:09:30.059 --> 0:09:34.099 because they actually are very happy in being single. And 0:09:34.139 --> 0:09:36.379 I think for so long we looked at being single 0:09:36.419 --> 0:09:39.539 as like this purgatory between when your next relationship was 0:09:39.579 --> 0:09:41.899 going to come around. But there's some really interesting information 0:09:41.939 --> 0:09:44.819 that's come out. The Culture Cut did a census and 0:09:44.859 --> 0:09:48.619 they predicted that by twenty thirty, nearly half of women 0:09:48.699 --> 0:09:51.019 age twenty five to forty four are expected to be. 0:09:51.019 --> 0:09:52.499 Single and child free. 0:09:52.859 --> 0:09:55.659 And that's not because they aren't able to find a. 0:09:55.619 --> 0:09:57.899 Person to settle down with. That is by choice. 0:09:58.019 --> 0:10:01.299 There's three main reasons women are prioritizing their personal growth, 0:10:01.299 --> 0:10:05.579 their own financial freedom. They're also choosing careers over relationships, 0:10:05.619 --> 0:10:08.179 and also that the divorce rates arising and a lot 0:10:08.179 --> 0:10:11.939 of people are not getting remarried after their first failed relationship. 0:10:12.059 --> 0:10:14.019 This doesn't surprise me at all when you think of 0:10:14.099 --> 0:10:15.739 the reason a lot of people used to have to 0:10:15.739 --> 0:10:17.939 get married. And we're getting into a whole other conversation here, 0:10:17.979 --> 0:10:19.459 but a lot of women had to get married for 0:10:19.539 --> 0:10:23.019 financial security. You know, we didn't have the education that 0:10:23.099 --> 0:10:26.059 we have now, or the opportunities to progress in a career, 0:10:26.139 --> 0:10:28.019 or to focus on a career, or to choose a career. 0:10:28.179 --> 0:10:30.259 We're also told that like you got married and you 0:10:30.299 --> 0:10:34.819 had kids. It's different now, like financial independence means everything, 0:10:34.899 --> 0:10:37.299 and so many more women are realizing that they don't 0:10:37.379 --> 0:10:40.579 have to rely on anyone, and in fact, they're happier. 0:10:40.699 --> 0:10:43.098 You can be far happier on your own. Some of 0:10:43.139 --> 0:10:45.419 the best years of my life, and like, obviously I'm 0:10:45.419 --> 0:10:49.819 married now. I loved being single, like not having the responsibility, 0:10:49.979 --> 0:10:52.899 not owing anything to anyone, doing whatever you wanted to do. 0:10:53.099 --> 0:10:54.659 Yeah, but I think that that's such a hard thing 0:10:54.779 --> 0:10:58.659 for a lot of people to realize because for so long, 0:10:58.699 --> 0:11:00.459 and it's a lot of like undoing, right, Like for 0:11:00.539 --> 0:11:04.059 so long we've been told that you get into a relationship, 0:11:04.099 --> 0:11:06.259 you have children, you get married, Like that's kind of 0:11:06.339 --> 0:11:08.338 what that's the ultimate goal is like to be in 0:11:08.339 --> 0:11:11.539 a good, healthy relationship. And you know, I even see 0:11:11.539 --> 0:11:13.699 it in my in my mother in law, Ellie, she's 0:11:13.739 --> 0:11:16.259 been single for a really long time. She's so content, 0:11:16.339 --> 0:11:19.579 she's so happy, and she still sometimes has to say, like, 0:11:19.819 --> 0:11:23.979 you know, people always assimilate being on your own with 0:11:23.979 --> 0:11:26.859 potentially being lonely or missing companionship, and she's like, my 0:11:26.899 --> 0:11:30.139 life has never been more stress free than what it 0:11:30.179 --> 0:11:32.739 has been since I've been single. And she embraced that 0:11:32.819 --> 0:11:35.259 after you know, her divorce. And I think a lot 0:11:35.259 --> 0:11:37.179 of people have realized that that actually, you know, you 0:11:37.219 --> 0:11:38.779 can be single and be completely content. 0:11:38.859 --> 0:11:41.499 It doesn't equate to loneliness. Yeah, and people realize they 0:11:41.499 --> 0:11:43.619 don't have to have kids anymore, so they don't have 0:11:43.699 --> 0:11:46.099 to find the spouse to have this see twenty thirty. 0:11:46.139 --> 0:11:49.979 Population decline is apparently incoming, Laura. 0:11:50.059 --> 0:11:53.299 Last week I came across some pretty big information and 0:11:53.499 --> 0:11:55.779 I haven't been able to get out of my mind. 0:11:55.819 --> 0:11:57.619 Like I have not stopped thinking about it. It is 0:11:57.659 --> 0:12:01.259 living rent free. I am beside myself with happiness for 0:12:01.299 --> 0:12:04.059 this person. The problem is it's a person that I 0:12:04.099 --> 0:12:07.899 don't know, but I have this like weird parasocial relationship 0:12:07.899 --> 0:12:10.819 with them. So hear me out. The biggest crush of 0:12:10.859 --> 0:12:12.939 my life is Jennifer Aniston. 0:12:13.099 --> 0:12:16.379 If I thought it was the guy from Outlander, Sam Hwan, Yeah, 0:12:16.459 --> 0:12:18.179 you've got to stop talking about him though now because 0:12:18.179 --> 0:12:19.259 it's a bit more accessible. 0:12:19.259 --> 0:12:21.619 I think Brits let into his DMS. We were going 0:12:21.659 --> 0:12:24.338 to go on a date once. I can't actually talk 0:12:24.339 --> 0:12:25.459 about it, Jennifer Anison. 0:12:25.699 --> 0:12:28.379 That wasn't Enny on my bingo cards for Annison to me, 0:12:28.539 --> 0:12:29.578 I don't know what it is. 0:12:29.779 --> 0:12:31.739 She's the apple of my eye. I've just had a 0:12:31.739 --> 0:12:33.939 crush on her forever. If I could come back in 0:12:33.939 --> 0:12:35.499 this world and be someone, I feel like I'd want 0:12:35.539 --> 0:12:37.659 to be her. I loved her in everything that she's in. 0:12:37.899 --> 0:12:40.619 I think she seems like a really wonderful person from 0:12:41.099 --> 0:12:42.419 what she puts forward to the world. 0:12:42.579 --> 0:12:45.819 I did not pick you as like, how have I 0:12:45.899 --> 0:12:47.819 known you for six years and didn't know that you 0:12:47.859 --> 0:12:49.379 were a closet Jennifer Addison Fairt. 0:12:49.379 --> 0:12:51.499 I've definitely said it before. I think you've checked out. No, 0:12:51.619 --> 0:12:54.019 I love her. I knew you liked her. I didn't 0:12:54.019 --> 0:12:56.259 realize you with this far up rally. I also just 0:12:56.299 --> 0:12:58.699 think she's beautiful. I think she's so funny. She seems 0:12:58.739 --> 0:13:00.539 really nice. But I think a big part of it, 0:13:00.579 --> 0:13:02.179 to be honest, I think I connected with her a 0:13:02.179 --> 0:13:05.779 lot over the years because she's had a horrific dating life. 0:13:05.819 --> 0:13:08.539 Like I know, she has been through the Ringer and 0:13:08.619 --> 0:13:11.499 I went I don't like to pick sides, but when 0:13:11.539 --> 0:13:14.459 it was Jen and Angelina, I was always tim Jen. Okay. 0:13:14.579 --> 0:13:16.939 I always thought about this because, like, remember when Mister 0:13:16.979 --> 0:13:19.539 and Missus Smith was a thing, so cast your mind's back. 0:13:19.699 --> 0:13:22.059 That was when Brad went and he filmed the movie 0:13:22.419 --> 0:13:25.019 Mister and Missus Smith with Angelina Jolie, and that's when 0:13:25.059 --> 0:13:27.939 their affair started, allegedly. I'm sure neither of them are 0:13:27.979 --> 0:13:29.619 getting to come and sue me if I say the 0:13:29.659 --> 0:13:30.179 wrong bed. 0:13:30.219 --> 0:13:31.419 I don't know they are suing each other. 0:13:31.499 --> 0:13:36.259 But imagine your husband having an affair with who was 0:13:36.339 --> 0:13:38.259 quoted as the hottest woman in the world at the time. 0:13:38.259 --> 0:13:39.779 I wouldn't let him film the movie. 0:13:39.619 --> 0:13:43.458 And everyone saying that they ship that relationship like you're 0:13:43.619 --> 0:13:46.458 you're married in real life and the public are saying, oh, 0:13:46.459 --> 0:13:48.819 you should leave your wife and go be with Angelina Jolie, And. 0:13:48.739 --> 0:13:51.539 He did, and I just thought yes, And I just 0:13:51.539 --> 0:13:54.419 thought she's always from not just that situation, but she 0:13:54.539 --> 0:13:58.219 was with John Mayer, she was with Vinceborn Thaughty Boys. 0:13:58.819 --> 0:14:01.259 But I've always thought she held herself with such class 0:14:01.339 --> 0:14:03.819 like in that breakup. I cannot imagine what it would 0:14:03.819 --> 0:14:05.739 be like for the world to have shipped Angelina and 0:14:05.819 --> 0:14:08.899 Brad when it was your literal husband, it was very 0:14:08.899 --> 0:14:09.659 obviously an affair. 0:14:09.739 --> 0:14:12.619 She was always so quiet and just like, I don't know. 0:14:12.699 --> 0:14:14.059 She always took the high road, and I had a 0:14:14.099 --> 0:14:16.419 lot of respect for her. But she's just come out 0:14:16.459 --> 0:14:18.659 that she's in a new relationship, and she hasn't been 0:14:18.659 --> 0:14:20.939 in a relationship in ages, and she's been spotted with 0:14:20.979 --> 0:14:23.459 this new man, and I'm just like so happy for her. 0:14:23.499 --> 0:14:25.019 It was weird. I felt like I could have cried 0:14:25.059 --> 0:14:28.419 with her happiness, because she looks really happy. Hear me out. 0:14:28.619 --> 0:14:31.459 He's an author, speaker and coach. His name is Jim Curtis. 0:14:31.579 --> 0:14:33.179 I know, I just I just here for it. Let 0:14:33.219 --> 0:14:35.579 me just talk about my happiness. Please tell me more 0:14:35.579 --> 0:14:37.739 about it. What else did he do? Well? Did you 0:14:37.739 --> 0:14:40.059 look at his Wikipedia page? This is why it's interesting. 0:14:40.419 --> 0:14:42.219 This is why I think it's funny, because I am 0:14:42.259 --> 0:14:47.499 slightly concerned for her. He's a hypnotherapist, a neuro linguistic 0:14:47.619 --> 0:14:53.339 programming practitioner. Well, has he hypnotized her into this? This 0:14:53.419 --> 0:14:56.859 is like somebody sent help to her. Is she truly happy? 0:14:56.939 --> 0:14:59.059 Or has he hypnotized her and trickter into relationship? 0:14:59.659 --> 0:15:03.179 Britt I think your concern for Jennifer Aniston has territory 0:15:03.179 --> 0:15:04.139 where it's a little bit straight. 0:15:04.179 --> 0:15:06.299 But in all seriousness, can I show you him. He's 0:15:06.499 --> 0:15:09.179 like a daddy, he's hot. Have a look. 0:15:09.419 --> 0:15:12.219 Yeah, he's nice, he's a beautiful he can hypnotize me anytime. 0:15:12.219 --> 0:15:14.379 Actually, that's not true. I've got a husband who I love, 0:15:14.419 --> 0:15:16.579 who you fall asleep, who I fall asleep next to. 0:15:17.259 --> 0:15:20.019 But I just think, like, I don't know. Parasocial relationships 0:15:20.019 --> 0:15:21.939 are weird, Like there's a few people that you get 0:15:21.979 --> 0:15:23.939 so invested with in life and then you have to 0:15:23.939 --> 0:15:25.579 remind yourself that you don't actually know them. 0:15:25.739 --> 0:15:28.499 I don't think I have a parasocial relationship with anyone. 0:15:28.659 --> 0:15:30.259 You had one with Jason Momola. You were in a 0:15:30.299 --> 0:15:31.779 relationship with him in your brain. 0:15:31.899 --> 0:15:33.779 No, I just thought he was hot and said I 0:15:33.779 --> 0:15:34.899 would climb him like tree. 0:15:34.979 --> 0:15:36.539 But apart from that, No, I didn't. I didn't have 0:15:36.539 --> 0:15:38.459 a relationship with you. I didn't know much about him. 0:15:38.859 --> 0:15:40.659 I just I didn't know him. No, I didn't. I 0:15:40.739 --> 0:15:43.699 clearly don't know him. I No, I don't think so. 0:15:43.859 --> 0:15:46.299 I don't think that there's anyone that I've really But 0:15:46.339 --> 0:15:48.499 then again, you look at social media, for example, And 0:15:48.539 --> 0:15:51.539 I think sometimes we follow people online, like there's definitely 0:15:52.099 --> 0:15:55.179 other people who work in media or influencers who who 0:15:55.259 --> 0:15:58.019 I've never met in real life, but I've met them online, 0:15:58.019 --> 0:15:59.939 if that makes sense, Like, maybe that's my extent of 0:15:59.939 --> 0:16:01.259 a parasocial relationship. 0:16:01.299 --> 0:16:03.579 Oh, you have full relationships with people online that you 0:16:03.619 --> 0:16:05.459 have to remind yourself of We've never seen each other 0:16:05.459 --> 0:16:07.179 in real life? Do you even know who I am? 0:16:07.339 --> 0:16:08.379 Have we actually met? 0:16:08.699 --> 0:16:08.739 Like? 0:16:08.899 --> 0:16:10.619 Oh, do I just follow you online and know everything 0:16:10.619 --> 0:16:11.059 about you? 0:16:11.139 --> 0:16:14.339 Which I think is now quite a weird phenomena because 0:16:14.339 --> 0:16:17.299 back in the day, you'd have celebrities, you'd have movie stars, 0:16:17.819 --> 0:16:20.299 and they were so inaccessible. The only time that you 0:16:20.379 --> 0:16:22.899 got little bits of them was either through tabloid magazines 0:16:22.939 --> 0:16:24.819 and most of the stuff was made up, or it 0:16:24.859 --> 0:16:26.619 was because you've gone to see the movie that they're in. 0:16:26.939 --> 0:16:29.499 Whereas now a lot of celebrities, and especially that middle 0:16:29.499 --> 0:16:33.059 tier celebrity, share so much of their lives online and 0:16:33.219 --> 0:16:36.179 they're also starring in films and everything else, and it's 0:16:36.219 --> 0:16:38.819 like the accessibility to their life is what I think 0:16:38.859 --> 0:16:40.219 makes people a bit obsessed with them. 0:16:40.939 --> 0:16:42.379 I would go so far as to say it's not 0:16:42.379 --> 0:16:44.659 even the middle tier celebrities. Some of the biggest celebrities 0:16:44.699 --> 0:16:47.219 in the world are like instagramming on selfies and stuff. 0:16:47.339 --> 0:16:49.379 Do you think that like a lot of them overshare. 0:16:49.379 --> 0:16:51.139 I think it like it's justin Bieber's now. But then 0:16:51.179 --> 0:16:54.179 a lot of massive celebrities don't need to be that 0:16:54.219 --> 0:16:56.619 public because they've already got everything they need. They don't 0:16:56.619 --> 0:16:58.539 need to share their entire lives because it's not a 0:16:58.539 --> 0:16:59.419 bargaining chip for them. 0:16:59.499 --> 0:17:02.179 Yeah, you tell them, Laura. Anyway, that's it from us.