1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Tonight's guest Tales from the talk show Trenches, is at 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Studio Underground at State Theater Center next week from February 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: eleven to fifteen. It's available through fringeworld, dot com dot you. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: It's row Hello, he's come back early because he's come 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: back for home. 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 3: You know. 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: I am. 8 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 3: I am the guest of my own show, the one 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: guest I could never get on the show. Guests to 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: ask I reckon, I'll clam up, I'll ask myself something 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: and then say, how dare you do not ask me? 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: We did want to ask who's the one guest that 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: you tried and tried and tried and never cook guest. 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: For a long well? John Howard? Oh, then prime minister Yep, 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: but it actually happened. No, he never did. 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Never did. 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: We got Kevin rud when he was Prime minister, but 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: Howard never came on, which I was kind of happy 19 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: with because at the time I don't think I would 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: have been ready for it. I think the biggest antidote 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: for this big campaign we did. It turned into like 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: a national a viral sensation of any time someone else 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: had the prime minister on their program or he was 24 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: out campaigning on the streets, strangers would come up to him, 25 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: or people on other TV shows would say to him, 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: why don't you do V's show, And he was dodging 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: it and dodging it, but the antidote would have been 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: him turning around and go okay, yeah, because I had 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: a panic, I would have known how to interview a 30 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: prime minister in my twenties. 31 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: E I'm terriforied. He would have loved everything to be controlled. Yes, 32 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: you see, and he knew that if he went on 33 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: your show, yes, no control and anything could happen. 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: And yet Kevin Rudd came on and answered the question 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 3: who would you turn gay for? When I was asking 36 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: that back in the day, who was it? Get his wife? Oh? 37 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: He didn't understand the question. 38 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: Which led to Howard, jeez, wouldn't that have been an 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: interesting campaign? So yes, me, well, telling tales like that, 40 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: I guess it's pretty much the show. But there is 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: an element where anyone who comes to the show there 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: is an open Q and a element. So anything, I 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: tried to cover all the things that I think everybody 44 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: wants to know, and then towards the end there's an 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: open mic section where everyone can ask me something that 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: They've always wanted to know or anything. 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: I've skipped questions like who would you say is the 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: biggest celebrity you ever had on the show? 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: Oh, that's interesting questions like that the biggest? Well, look, 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: We've I've had members of the royal family. I've had, 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: I've never had like I would have loved to have had, 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: like Barack Obama, like a president would have been interesting. 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: Maybe what George Clooney? Would that be one? Oh so 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: David Hattenbrush, surely I've. 55 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Did had everyone's number one. 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: And like spans generations I have When interviewing him. The 57 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: last time I interviewed him was in London. I was 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: in London with him because he doesn't travel so much anymore. 59 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: Cameramen who were there on the day older than me. 60 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 3: My daughter was asking me about him because I said 61 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to interview Sir David Attenborough. And she was 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: much younger at the time. She's twelve now, but at 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: the time her response was, oh, is that is he 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 3: an actual person? She thought he was just this mysterious 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: voice she heard over footage of mating animals. 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: I've just heard him on YouTube. 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he was he was just a soothing 68 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: ai bot voice. So that's you go. That's a generational, 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: multi generational name. 70 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: Because you were when the whole Row Live thing start. 71 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: You were only in your mid twenties, weren't you. 72 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: I was twenty five. 73 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: So how does a twenty five year old fella convince 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: a TV network to go, Hey, I've got this great 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: idea for a live chat show. 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: How dare you? They came to me I was doing 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: I was doing community Why did they come to you 78 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: my owniness? 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: Why did they come to you were twenty five year 80 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: old to give him his own show? 81 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: Well, I was doing Community TV Channel thirty one, which 82 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: used to exist here in WS and they were obviously 83 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: watching doing a very similar show there that i'd got 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: through through doing stand up and had someone just call 85 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: out of the blue and said, do you want to 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: come in for a meeting. They'd heard about me because 87 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: we'd had guests on the show, and some of those 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: people were local TV talent. So I think Larry enda 89 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: was was a big name back in the day Channel nine, 90 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: And if you've read his autobiography, he mentions the letter 91 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: that he sent me afterwards to kind of he said, 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: I went back to the network and said, this kid's 93 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: pretty good, Like, if anyone else is asked to go 94 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: on this show, you should do it. It's professional and 95 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: he's really good. So he now claims that he's responsible for. 96 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: Grecial success major yeah, gracious. 97 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: So he. 98 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 3: He earned me three gold logis, I've only earned him one, 99 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 3: so flar, but it out. 100 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: Who's your Who's your favorite TV show host at the moment? 101 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 2: Like talk? 102 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: I love Stephen Colbert Stephen Colbert, and he's one of 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: the few that I haven't seen live. I've been to 104 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: pretty much every other talk show that's ever existed at 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: some point, so he's his is the only one that 106 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: I haven't had the chance to see. And I do 107 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: love John Oliver, although a lot of people think his 108 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: show is not technically a Oh and John Mulaney, the 109 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: show that he does on Netflix, yea, Everyone's Everyone's in 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: La is a great one. He It's a very different 111 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: type of show, but it's a very good one. 112 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Are you glad you didn't have to put up with 113 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: the whole cancel culture nonsense at the time that you 114 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: were doing the show? 115 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: These guys, I think cancel culture is still very nonsensical anyone. 116 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: Actually, they are suffering. 117 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: Well, certainly like he was me making jokes about prime ministers, 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: and at no point did they say, have that show 119 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: taken off air? So I think we got we got 120 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: off Okay, Yeah, But I think there's also just a 121 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: level to which I think sometimes we weren't really having 122 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: to deal with social media people getting fired up. We 123 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: had a lot of you glad inverted commas controversies over 124 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: the years, but they blew over pretty quick. 125 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: Good old days. Well, Tonight's guest tales from the Talk 126 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: show Trenches, as I said, February eleven to fifteen, at 127 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: the State Theater, Santa. Tickets are available through Fringe world 128 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: dot com dot are you? Thank you? You know what 129 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: I'd love to see you do? Is you know? David 130 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: Letterman's My next guest, needs know. 131 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: Do one of those like a nice long form. 132 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Yes, one person long form lover let them. 133 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Roll sounds good, Okay, let's do it. 134 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: You're in all right. 135 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: First guest, John Howard, good luck. Thanks