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<v Speaker 1>Laura, come on in.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Pickup.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura just had a sandwich before we started. She got

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<v Speaker 3>it from the cafe. She opened it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to be like a pit of bread, but

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<v Speaker 1>they just forgot to put any feeling in.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a sandwich, there's no there's nothing inside. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just bread, just two bits.

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<v Speaker 1>Of bread and choking it down because it's so dry.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well you just swallow. Okay, in some more exciting

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<v Speaker 3>room news than my bread. Last week on the show,

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about it being February twenty nine, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a leap year, and apparently on leap years that

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<v Speaker 3>is when women are supposed to propose to men yes

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<v Speaker 3>in heterosexual relations.

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<v Speaker 1>Year old Queen Margaret of Scotland said it was okay.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need to go back into the details yet

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<v Speaker 3>we were just discussed it really hung up on the

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<v Speaker 3>history lesson. I appreciate that. But also we had somebody

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<v Speaker 3>slide into the DM saying that they proposed to their

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<v Speaker 3>boyfriend of seven or eight years and he said, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>she's sent a photo of her wearing a beer can

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<v Speaker 3>little ring, you know the thing that you Anyway, she

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<v Speaker 3>said it was very spur of the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't plan it, and then she was on the lounge,

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<v Speaker 1>she had this moment, so she proposed and then she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, we don't have a ring.

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<v Speaker 3>So they pulled off like maybe it was like was

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<v Speaker 3>it a beer can? Like it looked like a ring

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<v Speaker 3>off a tunican or something that she'd put on a finger.

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<v Speaker 2>It was awful.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a disgusting ring. And it also she said, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it goes to show that she listened to the show

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<v Speaker 4>and was like, I'm doing it tonight because I had

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<v Speaker 4>no three of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she may have missed the opportunity of it being

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<v Speaker 3>February twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good, and if she would have looked like missed

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Influence and the power here that we have at the pickup,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should discuss some big topics then if we

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<v Speaker 1>have that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Influence and we're talking about new marriages.

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<v Speaker 3>Now right, No just just marriages on leap use.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well we're discussing age gaps in relationships to we'll

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<v Speaker 4>do it next in pick up put Down, it's our

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<v Speaker 4>it's a secondent we do every Monday. We discussed the

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<v Speaker 4>big topics of the weekend. I mean, I'm a age

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<v Speaker 4>gat relationship. I'm not going to tell you how.

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<v Speaker 2>Much it is.

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<v Speaker 4>So is brit and Laura went on a reality dating

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<v Speaker 4>competition and found her husband, So we're all weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm still older than that, which you know

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<v Speaker 3>that does go against the norms, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're in an age gat relationship, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm also going to be updating you guys today

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<v Speaker 1>on something very personal that I've been going through, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is my fertility journey.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's been an ongoing process for a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years if you've been coming along that with me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do have a pretty big update today.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, it's a big show. That's all on the

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<v Speaker 4>way here at the pick up. It is Monday, so

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<v Speaker 4>I think we should.

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<v Speaker 1>Do this pick up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we discussed the big topics of the weekend that

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<v Speaker 4>had people talking and Laura and Brit you either pick

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<v Speaker 4>it up, carry on the conversation, or we put it down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pick up, put down, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>We do it every week now. It's become a staple,

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It has.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a game show. This is not big game show,

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<v Speaker 3>is it. I just love a game. It's definitely not

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<v Speaker 3>a game show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be though, because the TV network TV networks

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<v Speaker 4>have reached out they want the rights to it, and

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<v Speaker 4>I've said no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we're keeping it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Oh, here's what have we got. What's going on

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<v Speaker 3>in the world today?

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<v Speaker 4>Banning single use disposable coffee cups.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to pick that up, but Laura and I

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<v Speaker 1>both have a coffee in her hand right now, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>This comes off of the back of Sorry, Western Australia

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<v Speaker 4>becoming the first state in Australia to introduce a ban

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<v Speaker 4>on single use, non compostable coffee cups on Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's great and if it comes in as mandatory,

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<v Speaker 3>it means that people like us, who sometimes are a

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<v Speaker 3>bit lazy we forget to bring our keep cup, too

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<v Speaker 3>busy to think about it. It means you'll be forced

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<v Speaker 3>to think about it and you have to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Says same. But you know what, everyone gets angry with

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of change and then we all get used

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<v Speaker 3>to it. Imagine how angry everyone was about the single

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<v Speaker 3>use plastic bags that will worsen coals that no one cares.

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<v Speaker 3>They're over it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's amazing for the environment. Obviously it's heading in

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<v Speaker 1>the right direction. Is it going to be inconvenient a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the time. Yes, just means people might drink

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<v Speaker 1>less coffee too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a green piece about to reach out. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>get some spun con You are the face of a

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<v Speaker 4>green world.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got the coffee making coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>It's terrible, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, influencers asking for free food in exchange for exposure?

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<v Speaker 3>What put down? What are you putting down? Though, influencers

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<v Speaker 3>asking for free food? I would never I would never either.

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<v Speaker 3>But the only thing I want to say in conflict

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<v Speaker 3>to this is that businesses can just say no totally,

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<v Speaker 3>like an asker is gonna ask. A business doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>to get so angry and offended. Just say no or

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<v Speaker 3>don't reply message. We were just sparissing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were talking, That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>A UK restaurant has revealed a response they posted online

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<v Speaker 4>saying that an influencer came in said hey, give me

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<v Speaker 4>a free meal and I'll give you some exposure for

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<v Speaker 4>your restaurant. That it wasn't struggling, it was a popular

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<v Speaker 4>restaurant and they're being slammed for outing them.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I get why people get annoyed because everyone wants

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<v Speaker 3>to hate influencers. But in the same instance, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>like say a magazine contacts a business and says, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're running a promotion. You can put an ad in

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<v Speaker 3>our paper. It's going to cost you one thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>to run this ad. No business is like, how dare

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<v Speaker 3>that magazine? Ask me? Influencers have exactly that a huge

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<v Speaker 3>amount of influence. Lots of people watch what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is a great way of advertising for a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of business.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think like, yeah, but it's also so angry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>There is And I hate to say, I know we

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<v Speaker 4>all I do influence title, Yeah, but there is. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the image of an influencer, right, It's the how you're

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<v Speaker 4>all paying for our meal and you're asking for a

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<v Speaker 4>free one because you've got a blue tick and you

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<v Speaker 4>were on a reality show.

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<v Speaker 3>Once I get it, that's not a very pointed mansion.

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<v Speaker 1>You can if you can give a meal, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can give a fifty dollars meal to somebody that has

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<v Speaker 1>an audience of like four hundred thousand people. That is

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<v Speaker 1>advertising you literally will never be able to afford to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just also, like you said, Laura, just just say

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to embarrass them, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I just don't like the idea of shaming and

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassing people for what when when you can just move

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<v Speaker 3>on with your day.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gonna love this one. Pick up, put down age

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<v Speaker 4>gap relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick it up because I have the history of age

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<v Speaker 1>gap relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a cougar, she's a closet cougar, she loves a

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<v Speaker 3>young clo she's out of it, and I'm proud I

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<v Speaker 3>have nothing against age gap relationships. Could killis well.

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<v Speaker 2>This has come out over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>A forty eight year old man in a relationship with

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<v Speaker 4>his grandfather's one hundred and four year old widow.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been questioned, but I just say, I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a problem with age gaps. I think we've found potentially

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<v Speaker 3>where the light is. I have an issue with this

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<v Speaker 3>one when one hundred and four it's his grandmother.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, essentially so a massive age gap.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no sexual intimacy, apparently they don't have sex, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's forty eight He said their relationship has an emotional, spiritual,

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<v Speaker 4>and intellectual depth.

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<v Speaker 3>They lived together, so nearly sixty years difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>They sleep in separate beds though, because missus has PTSD

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<v Speaker 4>from World War II experiences. He wasn't born, so they

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<v Speaker 4>can't sleep together because she has night terrors from World

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<v Speaker 4>War two.

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<v Speaker 3>Bullshit, this can't be a real relationship. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that love is love except when you're fifty

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<v Speaker 1>and one hundred and forty.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, But I also think people do weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it is real, Maybe it's real.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that age gap? Forty eight and one hundred and four?

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<v Speaker 4>What's that it's like it's fifty six years?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's look the sixty years. Okay, it's very very weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say most people would say it's not okay

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<v Speaker 3>because it's just bizarre. But also it doesn't affect me,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't care. Let them be in a relationship together.

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<v Speaker 4>Is she sound of mind the one hundred and four

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<v Speaker 4>year old because one hundred and four. I doubt it

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<v Speaker 4>because can she consent? That's a big question.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I feel like we need to pollination on this one, though,

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<v Speaker 3>because I would I would love to know, like where

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<v Speaker 3>is the line? Most people say they're okay with age

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<v Speaker 3>gat relationships, but how how big can the age gap?

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<v Speaker 2>Because more question, what's your age gap?

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<v Speaker 1>Brit But my ex was seven years and my current

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<v Speaker 1>relationship is five years, So I'm moving in the right

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<v Speaker 1>direction into the limit.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're listening, now, what is your age gap? The limit?

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<v Speaker 2>Like where do you draw a line?

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<v Speaker 4>Thirteen one of sixty five will continue this conversation next

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<v Speaker 4>on the pickup. If you're just tuning in, we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>saucy age gat relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, Mitch, you were. You were telling us

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<v Speaker 3>about this guy who's forty eight years old. He's now

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<v Speaker 3>in a relationship trying to claim that he's in a

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with one hundred and four year old woman who

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<v Speaker 3>is actually the widow. Yeah, well it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>his dated grandfri. So his grandfather died and his widow

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<v Speaker 3>is now the person he's in a relationship with. It's

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<v Speaker 3>as confusing as it sounds. But also the question was

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<v Speaker 3>is how far is too far when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>an age gap.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying when they're one hundred and they experienced a

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<v Speaker 1>war that you weren't even born for for me probably

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<v Speaker 1>the line. Look, I'm I love age gaps as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>like literally, I date younger.

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<v Speaker 3>I have dated seven years younger historically. How young would

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<v Speaker 3>you go, though, bri it, that's the question because you

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<v Speaker 3>say I date younger seven years is your ex? What

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<v Speaker 3>would be the youngest.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm going to say is here, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>they a legal age. Now, what I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 1>is I genuinely believe most of the time when it's

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<v Speaker 1>not an obvious green card grab like this guy's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>doing because he's he's not from Australia, he's dating one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and four year old.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very obvious what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>For me about listen, age is just a number if

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<v Speaker 1>it's their maturity level. So like my ex was twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't notice that difference. My partner now is

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<v Speaker 1>five years younger than me. I don't notice a difference either.

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<v Speaker 3>To be fair, though, this guy's forty eight, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he's mature enough to make a mature decision about who

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<v Speaker 3>he wants to date. He wants a day in one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and four year old woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Let him go. For where I stand is that he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get.

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<v Speaker 1>An inheritance and an Australian citizenship.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, if it makes her happy in her final years,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you think of the tech support.

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<v Speaker 4>If she had a HDM I problem with her, Telly,

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<v Speaker 4>he'd fix it.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, Sweaty Cobby doesn't even know who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's my problem. It's it's power imbalance.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in an age gat relationship. The person I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 4>is sixties younger than me. But they're twenty one and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm twenty eight. So then I think anything younger than

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<v Speaker 4>twenty it's an age thing. You're right, anything younger than

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<v Speaker 4>the twenties, I think it's an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not an age. That's also seven years, sorry not six.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's interesting though, because people always have a

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<v Speaker 3>different variable. So I would go up by fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'd probably only go down by three. So I'd

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<v Speaker 3>date someone fifteen years older than me, but I'd probably

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<v Speaker 3>only date someone three years younger than me.

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<v Speaker 2>And old Maddie your partner.

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<v Speaker 3>He's one year younger than me. He's the youngest person

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever dated. I've only ever dated older guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also it's also more of a shock horror

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<v Speaker 1>when it's a woman that's older. Age gaps are always

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<v Speaker 1>fine when the man's older and he's dating down.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's so true, Britt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but when you're one hundred and four year old woman,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what a boss. Hey, we've got some people

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<v Speaker 1>calling in with Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Lee, what's the what's the age gap ceiling for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Ceiling wise?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah?

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<v Speaker 5>Gosh, probably depending on the person. I would say I

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<v Speaker 5>mainly date based on maturity, like matching wise. So if

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<v Speaker 5>the person was say, like you know, ten years older

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<v Speaker 5>or so, but there was still unlike under the same

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<v Speaker 5>life circumstance that I was, like similar job, industry or whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>then yeah, I definitely consider it. But younger, oh god,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think i'd go more than two to be I.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel the same personally. But I think when you say

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<v Speaker 3>it's maturity wise, like everyone has a line in the sand,

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<v Speaker 3>like ten years, twenty years, fifteen years, Like there's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be an age where you go, Okay, even if

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<v Speaker 3>our maturity levels match, it just feels a bit too

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<v Speaker 3>old for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's what's your thoughts on this situation where there's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's fifty dating one hundred and four year

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<v Speaker 1>old that was his grandma.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, that's definitely a money grab.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah, she doesn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she knows.

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<v Speaker 4>She knows.

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<v Speaker 3>There's plenty of one hundred wars. There's probably not plenty.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a few hundred and four year old who've still

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<v Speaker 3>got their wits about him.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're not they're not giving they're not giving her

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<v Speaker 4>enough credit. She could be making the choice. He could

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<v Speaker 4>be the one being taken advantage of. He's not to

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<v Speaker 4>add chemistry to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, I have a pretty important update after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking about my fertility I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know me, for a couple of years now. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a very I hate the word journey, but it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a very ongoing journey. And I do have an update

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<v Speaker 1>that I haven't spoken about on air before. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk to you about that after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's next on the pickup.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you guys have.

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<v Speaker 1>Been following along with my fertility journey, it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's been going for the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been speaking very openly of the years about my

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<v Speaker 1>egg freezing purely because I'm in my mid thirties now,

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<v Speaker 1>my fertility, as most people does around this time, starts

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<v Speaker 1>to deteriorate. So I did the egg freezing a few

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<v Speaker 1>times and I haven't spoken about this yet, but last

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<v Speaker 1>year mid to the end of last year, so I

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<v Speaker 1>decided that with in my situation and with my fertility

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<v Speaker 1>and the way it was going, that I should be

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<v Speaker 1>freezing embryos, not just eggs. I should make real babies

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<v Speaker 1>and put them on ice because you have more of

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<v Speaker 1>a chance of success in the future.

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<v Speaker 4>Brit An embryo is like when you inseminate an egg

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<v Speaker 4>from you with your partner bands.

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<v Speaker 1>Sperm, So I, well, you can do it with anyone sperm.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do a donus sperm. But I did this

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<v Speaker 1>experience with my partner Ben, who lives in Scotland, so

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<v Speaker 1>he came over here to do it, which was amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just decided as a couple that that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to try and do. And then I literally thought, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>I've made the decision, We'll make an embryo.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll forget about it.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no part of me that thought I would

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<v Speaker 1>walk away from that situation with no embryos nothing And

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what happened. And I guess I was faced

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<v Speaker 1>with this. I knew my fertility was not great, but

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<v Speaker 1>not one percent of me thought I would walk away

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<v Speaker 1>empty handed. And it was a real slap in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, I got a few embryos. And the way

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<v Speaker 1>it works is you get them on the spot, right

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<v Speaker 1>walk you wake up from the anesthetic, then struck them.

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<v Speaker 3>They make them right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's amazing, Well you can yeah, yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 1>walk out. You wake up from the anesthetic, and your

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<v Speaker 1>doctor will tell you how many she thinks you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have, but that's not how many you end up with,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's how many on that day. But what happens

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<v Speaker 1>is that takes like six days for them to grow

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<v Speaker 1>in a little petri dish, and like, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>won't grow all the way, some of them will make it,

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<v Speaker 1>some will have an abnormality or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So I started with a couple, so I was feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Really good, and then come day six, I only had

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<v Speaker 1>one left. And then we did some genetic testing. I

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<v Speaker 1>paid extra to do the genetic testing, which was just

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<v Speaker 1>a choice that we made, and unfortunately it came back

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<v Speaker 1>with a really really rare abnormality that I think like

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<v Speaker 1>twelve or thirteen kids in the world were born with

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<v Speaker 1>it because most most of these embryos won't make it

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<v Speaker 1>to gestation, they won't make it to a live birth,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they do make it to a live birth,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't last very long on earth side.

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<v Speaker 3>Devastating. It was really devastating.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember getting that call in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the night because I was overseas at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>my genesis called me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like, I'm so.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, but your one embryo hasn't developed and we won't

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<v Speaker 1>be going for with it because it's not viable with life.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point that that child will die, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>miscarriage or early days of life. And I wasn't ready

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<v Speaker 1>for that because firstly, I just thought, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's none? Like how But I just paid all

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<v Speaker 1>this money and science and I did hormones for three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and I've gone under for like the third under

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<v Speaker 1>and nine of sake for the third time, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>extracted it and I've waited for six days and I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched it and what do you mean there's none? She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just none, like it's sometimes that's how it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just got this real.

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<v Speaker 1>A feeling that I can't explain, And I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's taken me so long to talk about. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know so many women go through this ten times

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<v Speaker 1>more than I have, Like they do so many rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just can't imagine what that feels like when

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you want, the feeling of, like not just

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<v Speaker 1>disappointment and shock, but I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I've let my partner down, Like I all this pressure

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<v Speaker 1>for a family. There's two people here and he can't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, and it's my body that's not working, quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a real feeling of the weight of the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure of failure and ruining someone else's life if they

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<v Speaker 1>want kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Their opportunity to have children. Yeah, it's really hard. That's

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<v Speaker 3>such a huge responsibility that you feel as though you're

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<v Speaker 3>taking on in that moment because it's not I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you went through and had another round of testing and

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<v Speaker 3>also of like trying to create embryos. But I just

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<v Speaker 3>I feel for any woman out there who feels as

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<v Speaker 3>though that the sole responsibility falls onto them and that

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<v Speaker 3>they're a failure if they can't provide this, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>not the only reason why you're not put on this

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<v Speaker 3>earth is to have children. Like, there's so much value

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<v Speaker 3>to your relationship and to your life regardless of whether

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<v Speaker 3>you do or don't have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>How did Benny take it, your partner? Was he all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Ben's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>He really wants to be a dad, but he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have put pressure on me at all, and he has

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<v Speaker 1>said like he was perfect in that moment. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>wake him up and tell him. Actually, I remember going

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<v Speaker 1>out to the land room and I just cried the

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<v Speaker 1>whole night and I slept out there, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to put that on him, so I just like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did all this research about the chromosobal at

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<v Speaker 1>chromosomal abnormality that our embryo had. I just like spent

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<v Speaker 1>the whole night looking it up because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, does this mean all of our children

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<v Speaker 1>are going to have this? Because I didn't have enough

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<v Speaker 1>time to go through it with a specialist. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing. He said, I want kids, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>you more, like it's not a choice. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>choice for me, Like I was such a beautiful yeah

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<v Speaker 1>response yeah, he's like, I will, because I get that

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<v Speaker 1>kids are non negotiable for a lot of people, Like

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, there are people that just the be

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<v Speaker 1>all and end all. But I think it's different when

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a choice. It's different when I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want them. I was just saying, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't provide you with that at this time. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say is I don't want this

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<v Speaker 1>just to be a real doom and gloom. It was,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know for a lot of women it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But we let a couple of months go by and

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<v Speaker 1>then we did it again, and my specialist gave me

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<v Speaker 1>like double the hormones and it was the worst couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ever.

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<v Speaker 3>I was all right previously, but with.

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<v Speaker 1>The extra hormones, it was really, really tough. And my

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<v Speaker 1>partner Ben flew over and because he was worried that

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<v Speaker 1>I would get a bad result again going through it

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<v Speaker 1>alone my world, so he flew over just for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days to look after me. And I am

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<v Speaker 1>very happy to report that with this extra embryo, with

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<v Speaker 1>the extra hormones, we did get three embryos, so after

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<v Speaker 1>like six months, we did get a couple, so we

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<v Speaker 1>do have three that there for one day when I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to, but I just wanted to say it only

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<v Speaker 1>because I know so many women go through this and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not spoken about.

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<v Speaker 3>And this enormous pressure that's put on ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>By ourselves and by society. It's it shouldn't be like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just want people to know that if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going through it, you're one hundred percent not alone.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been talking about this on this show for like

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<v Speaker 4>the beout half of the year, so you can podcast

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<v Speaker 4>it too on I Heart. If you was on Life

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<v Speaker 4>un Cut, your podcast, you've been speaking about it for

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<v Speaker 4>a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>This a big episode on Life Uncut that we did

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<v Speaker 1>just last week. If you guys want to go and

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<v Speaker 1>hear more, we'll see tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Goobye, guys,