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Speaker 1: Lea finocchi ai O.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Leah, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Now, before we get into this week's parliamentary settings, the

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Speaker 1: Voice referendum was indeed held on the weekend and there

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Speaker 1: was a resounding no around Australia. There was though a

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Speaker 1: lot of Yes voters in our more remote communities. What

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Speaker 3: I think it shows that people are tired of being

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Speaker 3: It's that they're not being listened to and that's the

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Speaker 3: critical difference and that's what Labor's missing. And even Labor's

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Speaker 3: senator has said that the Files government has stopped listening

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Speaker 3: is so focused on restoring control two communities through local

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Speaker 3: labor who took away their voice, ironically in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: Leah, how much is it going to cost though to

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Speaker 1: have those various different smaller shires because it does seem

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Speaker 1: you know they were amalgamated for a reason.

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Speaker 3: Well, no one's been able to clearly explain the reason.

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Speaker 3: And ultimately, what's the cost of not doing this, because

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Speaker 3: are worse. So we're in an active consultation process right

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Speaker 3: now looking at the different models and you're right, Katie,

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Speaker 3: there will be a cost to this. But my message

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Speaker 1: What do you make though of the government saying that

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Speaker 1: they are going to continue with the treaty process. They

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Speaker 3: Well, it's just Natasha Fars and territory Labor continuing to

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Speaker 3: very clear Katian, Certainly from the colp's perspective, this is

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've touched on it, all of those issues

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Speaker 3: Well, it's extra ordinary to have their own Territory Labor

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Speaker 1: We absolutely need to restore community safety.

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Speaker 2: Leah. Parliament resumes this week.

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Speaker 1: What exactly is the opposition going to do to try

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Speaker 3: So on Wednesday we have legislation that we're bringing forward

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Speaker 1: But hang on the ALP say, like the Labor Party says,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie, And this is the great lack of scrutiny

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Speaker 3: law is still there by name only. They gutted all

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Speaker 1: So from a practical sense, what does that actually mean?

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Speaker 2: So what does it mean from a real practical sense.

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Speaker 3: Yep, great, and look to allay people's concerns. We've had

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Speaker 3: not just me saying this is required, Katie, but what

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Speaker 3: That's how ridiculous labor have disempowered our police. What our

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Speaker 3: It means that police cannot just tip out alcohol, but

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Speaker 1: Saying right now that the police cannot do any of that.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and you could liken it to this, Katie.

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Speaker 3: We all know speed signs on our roads. It tells

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Speaker 3: What labor have done is essentially it's like saying, okay,

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Speaker 3: And again what Labor have done is just an erosion

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Speaker 3: And so this legislation is going to go directly to

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Speaker 1: So this change in legislation, if you're able to get

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Speaker 3: That's right, and they can also issue a fine. So

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Speaker 3: what labor have done is the is disgusted a law

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Speaker 3: And we've seen just I mean, even the recent events,

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Speaker 1: How big a difference, though, do you think it's going

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Speaker 3: It will have an immediate impact. And what it also

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Speaker 3: it has a big impact. This is about stopping crime

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Speaker 1: All right, So Leah, that's happening tomorrow. But you are

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Speaker 2: The government for this to get up, aren't you.

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Speaker 3: There's no question about it, Katie. And again, is the

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: I bring legislation to Parliament as often as I can

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Speaker 3: that reflects worse on Labor than it does on us

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Speaker 3: because we're trying. We're putting forward our plan for a

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Speaker 3: we're elected next year, Katie, this will all become law

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Speaker 3: as Marian Scrimdow has said, start listening and start acting

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Speaker 1: Well zero four double nine seven double one three six

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Speaker 2: Love to hear from our listeners this morning.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that this change, if the CLP is

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Speaker 2: Do you think that it would have an immediate impact?

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Speaker 1: Love to hear your thoughts now, Liah today, though I

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Speaker 3: So Territory Labor and Natasha Files have shown time and

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Speaker 3: We have a Labor senator breaking ranks and saying that

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Speaker 3: this government has totally walked away from the community, and

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Speaker 3: so we will be pushing that in Parliament this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: We know that crime is through the roof, We know

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Speaker 3: in disarray, with twenty eight teachers we're injured this year

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Speaker 3: we're going to be putting forward today.

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Speaker 1: And so with that matter of public importance again for

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Speaker 1: listen to Parliament the whole day. How exactly is that

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Speaker 1: going to work. Once that's presented or once that's brought forward,

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Speaker 1: everybody has to discuss it.

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Speaker 3: So what happens the matter of public importance is only

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Speaker 3: debated at the end of the day, So when government

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Speaker 3: finished talking about their bushfire's statement, then that MPI will

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Speaker 3: come on. It then goes for two hours, so any

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Speaker 3: member of Parliament who wants to contribute can stand up

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Speaker 3: So that will be at the end of the day, Katie,

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Speaker 3: but we will certainly be making a case on why

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Speaker 3: this government focused on all the wrong things, and even

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Speaker 3: the debate on the voice Katie, to go back to

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Speaker 3: a very topical point. I mean this government spent so

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Speaker 3: much time campaigning on the voice and really showed that

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Speaker 3: which is practical outcomes, practical policies, and they just want

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Speaker 2: Just on alcohol. I want to go back to that

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Speaker 2: very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you're talking about and bringing forward this legislation tomorrow

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Speaker 1: for the two kilometer law or two kilometer rule. What

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Speaker 1: about you know, what about the situation that we're finding

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have stood show to shoulder with corner stores

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Speaker 3: over this entire period since twenty nineteen when government of

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Speaker 3: the Labor government changed the laws. It is ridiculous to

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Speaker 3: penalize mom and dad businesses who one hundred percent employ local.

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Speaker 3: So these corner stores are all owned locally, all the

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Speaker 3: money stays local, all the jobs are local. They sell

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Speaker 3: a comparatively minuscule amount of alcohol compared to the big

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Speaker 3: yet this government under Natasha Files is going after them

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Speaker 3: saying you can only sell twenty five percent of your takings.

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Speaker 3: It can only be attributed to selling alcohol, which is

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Speaker 3: ridiculous because if someone is going to their local corner store,

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Speaker 3: they might pick up a hot chilk and a loaf

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Speaker 3: The cost of alcohol is so much more so they

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Speaker 3: have to For example of you, if every carton of

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Speaker 3: be able to keep that balance. It's just not possible

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Speaker 3: because people don't use their corner stores like that. So

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Speaker 3: we stand with our corner stores who don't want to

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Speaker 3: of course their local levels of employment.

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Speaker 1: Well, Leah Finocchio, the opposition leader, we will leave it there.

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to hear exactly what happens today with that

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Speaker 1: matter of public importance and also tomorrow with the alcohol legislation.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thank you and take care