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Speaker 1: DAILI ohs oh, now it makes sense. Good morning, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Daily OS. It is Friday, the nineteenth

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Speaker 1: of July.

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Speaker 2: I'm Billy, I'm Zara.

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Speaker 1: You've likely heard of Project twenty twenty five. It is

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Speaker 1: a set of conservative policy recommendations for former President Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump if he does become the next president. Now, Trump

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Speaker 1: says he is not directly involved in it, and he

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Speaker 1: has publicly tried to distance himself from it. However, Democrats

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Speaker 1: have consistently attacked Trump's ties to the plan. Biden has

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Speaker 1: labeled it quote the biggest attack on our system of

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Speaker 1: government that has ever been proposed in the history of

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Speaker 1: this country, and he has also pointed to the fact

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Speaker 1: that some of Trump's top advisors have been involved in

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Speaker 1: today's deep dive, we are going to explain exactly what

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Speaker 1: you need to know about Project twenty twenty five. But

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Speaker 1: for Sarah, what is making headlines today.

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Speaker 3: Federal Labour has announced its cut ties with the CFMEU,

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Speaker 3: Australia's Peak construction Union. It means a labor party will

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Speaker 3: no longer accept donations from the union, which is now

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Speaker 3: facing multiple investigations into alleged corruption. After a recent nine

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Speaker 3: Network investigation, Labour's National secretary, Paul Ericson confirmed on Wednesday

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Speaker 3: A Labor statement said, and I quote, the number one

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Speaker 3: of this. We didn't explain on what is happening with

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Speaker 3: that link in today's show.

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Speaker 2: Notes.

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Speaker 1: Australia's unemployment rate remains steady at four percent in June,

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Speaker 1: four point one percent last month, and that number removes

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Speaker 1: the influence of calendar specific patterns on employment like fruit

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Speaker 3: Uber Eats has issued a warning about a new scam

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Speaker 3: platform said that hackers have been sending users a message

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Speaker 3: offering them rewards to join a promotional team. Uber Eats said,

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Speaker 3: if you receive these messages, we strongly advise you not

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Speaker 1: And today's good news, Lily Gladstone and Kaylee Reese have

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Speaker 1: Breach and Reese for True Detective Night Country. The Bear

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Speaker 1: also broke records with its twenty three nominations, the most

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Speaker 3: Billy, I really feel like Project twenty twenty five popped

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Speaker 3: up out of nowhere, I mean to me at least,

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Speaker 3: Can you just take it back a step and just

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Speaker 1: Well, explain where some people might have seen it around.

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Speaker 1: So I've personally been seeing it a lot in the

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Speaker 1: when I first saw it, it was just like a three

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Speaker 1: more in mainstream media. You know, the ABC's Four Corners

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Speaker 1: York Times have done several explainers on it, So I

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Speaker 3: So, without further ado, what the hell is Project twenty

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Speaker 1: But some people listening may not have heard of them.

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Speaker 3: So if Trump has said that he a knows nothing

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Speaker 3: that's a very strong quote in my mind. What is

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