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Speaker 1: On today's show, a US fashion influencer is accused of

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Speaker 1: putting her wedding guest lives at risk for the perfect

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Speaker 1: wedding aesthetic. Taylor Swift and Sophie Turner's Revenge Friendship and

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Speaker 1: Sarah's Day's Cookbook tops the charts. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.

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Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture

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Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert and I was

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Speaker 1: really cringing for m Davies this week because she basically

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Speaker 1: outed herself as a baby talker and inn of quite

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Speaker 1: a strange way. So on her Instagram she shared this

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Speaker 1: iPhone hack where you know when you plug your iPhone

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Speaker 1: into charge. I never knew, but you can actually set

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Speaker 1: a tone that plays when it happens. So is that

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Speaker 1: to let you know, okay, the phone is actually charging. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So if you have your iPhone on loud, you can

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Speaker 1: hear a little plugin noise when you do it normally, However,

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Speaker 1: you can go into your settings and select a unique sound.

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Speaker 1: So when she plugs in her iPhone to charge, she

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Speaker 1: has got her boyfriend saying to her, I love you, darling.

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Speaker 1: However it's in a baby voice. What the hell would

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Speaker 1: you want that? I think some people have too much

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Speaker 1: time on their hands to personalize their sounds on their phone. Well,

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Speaker 1: apparently he also has the same thing, but it's her

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Speaker 1: saying something in a baby voice as well, but she

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Speaker 1: said she wasn't going to share what it was. This

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Speaker 1: is so awkward for everyone involved. Can you imagine just

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Speaker 1: you're in a car with your friends, Oh, do you

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Speaker 1: mind passing me the charger? This weird baby voice. Oh

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Speaker 1: it's funny because Lily Brown, who is m Davy's friend,

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Speaker 1: actually commented on it and said, I really miss waking

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Speaker 1: up to that sound. It's giving me twenty ten vibes

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Speaker 1: of when you go and choose your ring tones, when

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Speaker 1: you get charged a fortune, the crazy frog and everything

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Speaker 1: like that. And now no one ever wants their phone

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Speaker 1: to go off. It's just silent permanently. But maybe this

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Speaker 1: is now a thing. She's bringing it back. If you

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Speaker 1: had to have a sound effect of your partner, what

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Speaker 1: would it be. My first thought was re snoring because

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Speaker 1: that happens a lot, but probably Reese talking in our

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Speaker 1: dogs voices, So we don't do baby talk, but we

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Speaker 1: normally communicate via our dogs voices. See I feel like

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Speaker 1: every couple has these weird things that they do, so

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Speaker 1: I don't really want to judge m Davies too much

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Speaker 1: because whenever I call Dale will answer the phone by

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Speaker 1: going hey, So would that be the same My thing

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Speaker 1: would be hey? And the worst thing is I've called

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Speaker 1: Dale recently where I've spoken like that and I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize that I was on the speaker during their camping trip.

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Speaker 1: You know, in your phone automatically connects. Mine would be

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Speaker 1: my partner doing our dog voice as well and saying

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Speaker 1: hello lady, because every time I come home as Archie,

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Speaker 1: he's like, oh, hi, lady, as if I haven't been around,

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Speaker 1: so he doesn't call me mummy then anyway, can you

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Speaker 1: imagine sitting in a choiet office and then you just

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Speaker 1: plug in your phone, Hello lady, hell leddy See. I

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Speaker 1: always wonder the couples who have children when their babies

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Speaker 1: put on voices for the babies. I've heard that they do.

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Speaker 1: I've heard this is a thing and it must get

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Speaker 1: awkward when the child is then old enough to actually

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Speaker 1: talk about. I am covering everything about Bridget and Doctor

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Speaker 1: Make's wedding. She's releasing the content in stages us fashion

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Speaker 1: influenzer Bridget Ball has been accused of putting her wedding

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Speaker 1: gar lives at risk to ensure a picture perfect aesthetic

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Speaker 1: for her extravagant New York wedding. Now, Kate, before we

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Speaker 1: unpack the drama. Who is Bridget Bowl? Well, she's a

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Speaker 1: thirty nine year old fashioned designer with very enviable style.

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Speaker 1: She's so iconic that she goes by just Bridget on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea how she managed to snap up

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Speaker 1: that handle. She's got one point one million followers on

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six thousand followers. So earlier this month,

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Speaker 1: Bridget married plastic surgeon doctor Michael, and that's where the

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Speaker 1: drama started. So, to begin with, her wedding was heavily

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Speaker 1: praised for being iconic and it was bloody beautiful. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: probably seen the videos popping up on TikTok. She and

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Speaker 1: no guests dined on the streets of Soho for her

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Speaker 1: rehearsal dinner. They then had this stunning rooftop ceremony and

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Speaker 1: was an absolute vibe. There is a video of Bridget

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Speaker 1: on TikTok until Bridget made a surprising admission. So she

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Speaker 1: she shared, you can see that the exit sign has

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Speaker 1: she captured the TikTok probably not up to code now.

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Speaker 1: The backlash was swift and it did cause Bridget to

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Speaker 1: delete this video from TikTok. However, it was too late.

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Speaker 1: A lot of super slows already recorded the video and

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Speaker 1: started sharing it on their own platforms. Now people called

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Speaker 1: Bridget selfish, with some labeling her as insane. Someone commented

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Speaker 1: photographer called Madison Anne actually came out and said how

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Speaker 1: easy it is to photoshop exit signs out of wedding photos,

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Speaker 1: and in a TikTok video she showed herself doing it,

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Speaker 1: and she finished up saying, imagine investing in a good

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Speaker 1: photographer instead of breaking safety codes. But what about the

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Speaker 1: videographers because as a videographer myself, it does look really

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Speaker 1: ugly when there's a big red sign in the background.

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Speaker 1: And what about the guests taking photos on their phone? Like,

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Speaker 1: I get the safety concerns, but I also think, are

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Speaker 1: we just picking on this for the sake of picking

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Speaker 1: on it because it was such a beautiful wedding. I agree,

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Speaker 1: because the new in thing is to have social media

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Speaker 1: experts to capture their wedding day as well, and that

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Speaker 1: would be incredibly difficult to edit out those exit signs.

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Speaker 1: I just think people are being so picky because there's

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Speaker 1: I agree. The wedding has been all over TikTok and

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Speaker 1: it's been touted as this iconic wedding that everyone wants

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Speaker 1: to replicate. So I feel like, basically it's a bit

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Speaker 1: of tall poppy syndrome. This woman has been built up

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Speaker 1: someone notices a small flour in her wedding, they're like, gotcha.

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Speaker 1: I don't really understand the uproar because as you touched

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Speaker 1: on Kate, she did put over the ugly signs a

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Speaker 1: new aesthetic sign that also read exit. Also at the

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Speaker 1: same time, I think at most weddings people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is where the exits are. Well, the near pickers

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Speaker 1: have pointed out this rule in New York that exits

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Speaker 1: must be clearly marked with an approved exit sign, So

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Speaker 1: all signs must feature the word exit in red letters,

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Speaker 1: huge wedding planner. They've probably done this before. This isn't

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Speaker 1: something new. I think she did because she pointed out

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Speaker 1: that they were all like ugly plaques on the wall. Also,

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Speaker 1: I do notice when there's large toilet signs everywhere, and

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Speaker 1: I just think you can make it obvious to your

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Speaker 1: where these things are. I don't think it's a big

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Speaker 1: issue to cover it up. I don't know. I'm just

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Speaker 1: kind of exhausted with this. Can't we just enjoy the

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Speaker 1: wedding for what it was. It was a beautiful event.

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Speaker 1: I want to pin it to my Pinterest board, even

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Speaker 1: though I've had a wedding and enjoy the aesthetics. And

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Speaker 1: this is coming from a podcast that can be quite picky,

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Speaker 1: but also you've changed Kate, you have changed. We've had

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Speaker 1: so many segments on here dissecting people's weddings. I think

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Speaker 1: once you get married you then become a lot more

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Speaker 1: sensitive towards it. But can you imagine spending two million

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Speaker 1: to see what the feedback is and they're saying, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you tried to kill your guests by making it too esthetic.

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Speaker 1: This is the cover of my first ever cookbook, Sarah's

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Speaker 1: Day's cookbook launch has been hailed as success, despite a

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Speaker 1: few initial hiccups for international buyers. Sunnyside Up, which was

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Speaker 1: to pre order their books so they get them by Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I'm really not surprised by this because I recently heard

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Speaker 1: on the but Are You Happy? Podcast? Jesse Stevens was

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Speaker 1: and she said that in order to be categorized as

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Speaker 1: Think how many followers Sarah has, she is going to

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Speaker 1: absolutely blitz this. I think what was interesting though, is

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Speaker 1: bit cynical when influencers say, oh, my products are sold

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Speaker 1: manipulating it. But this was on book Topia and it

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Speaker 1: so I actually thought it was quite incredible. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: she does have such an engaged audience, particularly in America,

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Speaker 1: and I think that she really picked a good price point.

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Speaker 1: It was only sixty four nine nine, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's where she went right. It just shows it doesn't

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Speaker 1: really matter how Sarah's Day promotes things. Because we discussed

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Speaker 1: last week how people were saying how unrealistic the cookbook

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Speaker 1: promotion was, and there was a lot of confusion about

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Speaker 1: when the book was going on sale. I mentioned earlier

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Speaker 1: that there was some issues with international people being up

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Speaker 1: to even buy the book, but there were so many

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Speaker 1: comments on her post of people just so desperate to

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Speaker 1: get their hands on it. Everyone thought I was pregnant,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not pregnant. Sorry to disappointed. I actually started

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Speaker 1: my own business. On Tuesday, we discussed how former Love

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Speaker 1: Islander Anna McAvoy had been teasing a surprise, so she

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Speaker 1: and and fiance Michael they ended up getting Honey tattoos,

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Speaker 1: and they said that there was big news coming. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of people were speculating maybe they were pregnant,

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Speaker 1: maybe they were getting a new dog called Honey. However,

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Speaker 1: it's neither of those things. Yeah, So it turns out

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Speaker 1: that they're launching a new tanning business called Goldie b

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Speaker 1: which is set to go live on Sunday. I'm kind

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Speaker 4: Probably just hasn't gotten over the Stuper Bowl yet.

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Speaker 1: Here's what they said, found out what Taylor Swift thinks?

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Speaker 1: See, I don't know if Taylor Swift would like this

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Speaker 1: to events together this seems very public. Well, he started

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00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 1: to get a little bit more coy on the podcast,

433
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 1: so his brother asked Travis about his recent trip to

434
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 1: New York and asked him what he'd been up to

435
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 1: when he tried to avoid the question. However, things got

436
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 1: even weirder when in a recent episode of their podcast,

437
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,159
Speaker 1: Travis appeared wearing a John Mayer t shirt. Wow, do

438
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 1: you think this is just a pr relationship? I don't know,

439
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 1: but swift have definitely been trying to look to see

440
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 1: if there's any clues from Taylor as to whether this

441
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,159
Speaker 1: is a real relationship. And Taylor is really known for

442
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 1: putting out all these Easter eggs, so many thought that

443
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 1: maybe she was going to put clues out to her

444
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: audience that this was a theme, and we all know

445
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 1: the Swifties literally pick up on anything that she does.

446
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 1: Like when these videos pop off on my TikTok, I'm like,

447
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 1: how the hell did they put this stuff together? These

448
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: are next levels? So, I mean, this one's pretty tame.

449
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 1: They noticed in a recent TikTok Taylor was wearing a

450
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 1: red and yellow shirt and basically that's the colors of

451
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: Travis's team that he plays for, So they thought maybe

452
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 1: he'd sent her some merch and then a week after

453
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: Travis's podcast aired, Taylor's surprise song on the tour was Stay,

454
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 1: which has the lyrics when you came in wearing a

455
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 1: football helmet. So fans noticed that she was extra smiley

456
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: during that line. Come on, I know she loves dropping clues,

457
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: but that's clutching it strong. Can you imagine I sitting

458
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 1: around with her team and being like, right, so on Monday,

459
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear a red and yellow top and then

460
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak extra smiley during this line, Suly, that

461
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: doesn't actually happen. This one was getting a bit ridiculous,

462
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 1: so fans noticed that on August seventh, Taylor's surprise song

463
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: was Dress, and in this she sings the lyrics flashback

464
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: when you met me, your buzz cut and my hair bleached,

465
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 1: and Travis is known for having a buzz cut. It

466
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: gets worse because people were saying that the date is

467
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: a symbol, so the seventh and then August, which is

468
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: the eighth month, so they were saying that comes together

469
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 1: and that's eighty seven, so that's the number that Travis

470
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: wears on his jaws. Oh my god, they could literally

471
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: read into anything though, Like, if you look at any

472
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 1: of Taylor Swift's songs, if you want to look hard enough,

473
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: you could twist it to make some kind of like

474
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: be fair to the Swifties. Though Taylor encourages this. I mean,

475
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: this week, she has put out the nineteen eighty nine

476
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: track list for Taylor's version of nineteen eighty nine, And

477
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 1: in order to release that track, everyone had to crack

478
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: a code on Google and it's just so clever. Well,

479
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: maybe she figures if Travis is going to be talking

480
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: about on his podcast, she's going to talk about it

481
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: in a way that she knows her fans can interpret it.

482
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: Taylor and Travis coming together. It's really weird because now

483
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: the sporting media is interested in this story too. So

484
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: Travis is in season and he's doing press conferences and

485
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: all these media keeps saying, Oh, what's happening between you

486
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 1: and Taylor? My fifteen year old daughter wants to know.

487
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: Let's throw to a grab.

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Speaker 4: The only thing anyone really wants to talk about is

489
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift. Did you really, hey man, did you really

490
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 4: have your phone number ready on a friendship bracelet to

491
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 4: give to Tea said what I said? And I meant

492
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 4: what I said when I said it shouts you shot

493
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 4: and you know what it is, what it is. I'm

494
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 4: not going to talk about my personal life. I know

495
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 4: what you writers want to hear, and you want to

496
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 4: hear more about that, and I'm not going to give

497
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 4: you anything. Has she reached out?

498
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 3: Huh?

499
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 4: Has she reached out? And that's going to wrap it

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00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 4: up here.

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Speaker 1: For someone listening to that who has worked in sports media.

502
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: He's saying a lot without saying much at all, So

503
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: he hasn't come out and denied it. If this was

504
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: a load of shit, he would flat out say no,

505
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: we're not dating. Fact that he's not denying it makes

506
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: me think that this could be a thing. I don't

507
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: think it's some full blown romance at the moment. I

508
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: think that they're probably just hanging out and it's that

509
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: awkward stage where you don't really want to call it anything.

510
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm just jealous, though, of these celebrities who can manifest

511
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: these relationships, because if you have a crush on someone

512
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: famous and you're a celebrity, you can make it happen.

513
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: You can get your people to contact their people, or

514
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: you can talk about it on a podcast and put

515
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: it out there, and generally if that person's interested, they'll

516
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: reach out. There's got to be about interest, So you

517
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: can't just be anybody like that. I'm sure there's other

518
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: guys that have tried to get with Taylor Swift who

519
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: have just been knocked back that are celebrities. Also, this

520
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: is a very public platform that he's put himself out on.

521
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine the public rejection. Yeah. Well, on Thursday

522
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: it got super confusing because the media were reporting that

523
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: Travis's brother Jason had confirmed the relationship. But as the

524
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 1: media do, they took his words out of context and

525
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: just ran with it. So he appeared on a podcast

526
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: and he was asked about the rumors. So he said,

527
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to answer it because I don't really know

528
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: a lot about Travis's love life. I try to keep

529
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: his business kind of his business, stay out of that world.

530
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: Having said that, man, I think they're going great, and

531
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: I think it's all one hundred percentury, and I hope

532
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: things go a mile. He then finished saying, I'm joking.

533
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what is happening, but the media basically

534
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: just cut out the joking bit and said it's official

535
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: they're dating. Well, again, where their smoke, there's fire. And

536
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: I definitely think that there is something going on with

537
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: these two because the brother's comments again don't flood out

538
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: deny it. The thing that does annoy me a little

539
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: bit about that is that the brother, he's a trained

540
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: media professional, he plays NFL, He'd be interviewed all the time.

541
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's aware that his quote was going to

542
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: be taken out of context. This is great for both

543
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: of their profiles because we would never been talking about

544
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: these two footy players on our Australian podcast if it

545
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: wasn't for Taylor Swift. Do you know what I do

546
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: love with the Swifties as well. They're already predicting what

547
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: some of the songs are going to be when either

548
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: things go well or not so well. So someone said

549
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: there's going to be a song called eighty seven, or

550
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: maybe one called Touchdown in Kansas City. I feel like

551
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: a lot of worlds are colliding in this story because

552
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: Kristin Cavaliery from Laguna Beach has been dragged into this drama.

553
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: So she recently had Travis on her podcast and she

554
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: is coppying a lot of flak because she is allegedly

555
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: trying to steal Taylor's man. Let's go to the grab

556
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: that's got swifties upset?

557
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: Are you obviously probably heard the term TV crush right, Like,

558
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: you know what a TV crush is. It's when you

559
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: see someone on TV. You probably haven't met them yet,

560
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: but you just have this little crush on them. You

561
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 2: were one hundred percent my TV crush when.

562
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 4: This show was on.

563
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: I was in love with you. Yes, stop it. Do

564
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: you like the Johnny Bravo, the no Fae? I got

565
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 3: an amazetle. I like your fit.

566
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: And your mustache.

567
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 4: It's a good one for you.

568
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: I hate it because Kristin has always made out to

569
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: be this man eater, because on Laguna Beach she was

570
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: sort of the other girl between Lauren and Steven, even

571
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: though she was actually Steven's girlfriend. Yeah, she's seventeen as

572
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: well at the time. Yeah, I mean, I actually think

573
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: that Kristen and Travis make a lot more sense because

574
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: her husband was a quarterback, and she said that her

575
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: type is athletes because she knows how their schedules work.

576
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: She's been around sports before, and they seemed quite cute together.

577
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: They seem to have a bit of a connection. Yeah,

578
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: they seem to have good chemistry on that podcast. On

579
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: the topic of Taylor Swift, we need to talk about

580
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: that iconic photo that was released the other day. So

581
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and Sophie Turner have set the gossip world

582
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: on fire when they were photographed grabbing a meal together

583
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: in New York on Tuesday night. Well, you may be asking,

584
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: why is this so shocking, Well, this is the first

585
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: time Sophie has been spotted out in public since breaking

586
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: up with her husband Joe Jonas, who just so happens

587
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: to be Taylor Swift's ex. Yeah, this is so juicy.

588
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe when this photo popped up. So Taylor

589
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: and Joe briefly dated when they were teenagers in two

590
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and many Swifties will know that for

591
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: everyone always is written about Joe, and we all know

592
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: that that didn't end too well because at the time,

593
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: Taylor admitted on the Ellen DeGeneres Show that Joe broke

594
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: up with her in a twenty seven second phone call.

595
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: This interview is iconic because she just reminds me of

596
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: what we were all like in our teenage years or

597
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: early twenties, Like she was just so honest about the

598
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: breakup and you can tell it really cut her deep.

599
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: They seem to have turned things around, though, because in

600
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen they were spotted by paparazzi on a double date,

601
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: and that was when Taylor Swift was dating Calvin Harris

602
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: and Joe was on a date with her friend Jiji had.

603
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: Did I find this wild when celebrities are happy to

604
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: go on a double date with their ex partner, because

605
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: so remember when Hillary Duff and her husband were photographed

606
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: with Nicole Richie and Joel Madden, and Joel Madam was

607
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: her boyfriend back when she was eighteen. That was worse

608
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of speculation that Joel cheated

609
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: on Hillary with Nicole, So yeah, that was a bit

610
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: wild at the time. Yeah, Taylor seems to be friends

611
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: with a lot of exs, so she's obviously friends now

612
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: with Taylor Lautner and Taylor Lautner's wife Taylor too, Taylor

613
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: Lautner and Taylor Lawyell. In twenty twenty one, we discovered

614
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: that there was another song about Joe Jonas and it

615
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: was one of the songs from the vault called Mister

616
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: Perfectly Fine, and Sophie pretty much confirmed at the time

617
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: that it was about her husband because she sort of

618
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: trolled him on Instagram. So she shared an Instagram story

619
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: with the song playing in the background and she wrote

620
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: it's not not a bop, and Taylor ended up resharing

621
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: her post and writing forever bending the knee to the

622
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: Queen of the North, and that's in reference to Sophie's

623
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: role on Game of Thrones. Since the picture of Taylor

624
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: and Sophie together has been released, I have had mister

625
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: perfectly Fine in my head. Nor a Stop is such

626
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: a good song.

627
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: I think.

628
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: What's so big about this story, though, is the fact

629
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: that Sophie and Joe's divorce has been making headlines everywhere

630
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks, mainly because it has

631
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: been so poorly managed by Joe and his PR team,

632
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: and it's become so clear that his PR team has

633
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: set out on an orchestrated smear campaign against Sophie. Yeah, so,

634
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: in the days leading up to this divorce announcement, the

635
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: media seemed to be clearly laying the blame on Sophie.

636
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: So they inferred that she was a bad mum for

637
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: leaving Joe to care for his own children while she

638
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: was working in the UK, and they also called her

639
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: a party girl and suggested that she and Joe's lifestyles

640
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: just didn't align anymore. It's not like the media for

641
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: blaming a woman for no reason. Now. Following that were

642
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: claims that the final straw for Joe was seeing or

643
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: hearing Sophie do something on their ring doorbell camera footage. God,

644
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: those ring doorbell cameras are just catching everyone out, now,

645
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: aren't they. The thing that was great about this all

646
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: is that people could see through this bullshit. Everyone seems

647
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: to be a bit more media savvy now and know

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Speaker 1: that this was actually Joe's PR team who was pushing

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Speaker 1: out these negative stories to try and make him look better.

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Speaker 1: That's why I love TikTok because so many people can

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Speaker 1: now call bullshit on the media's reporting and flip the narrative.

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Speaker 1: And that's why this photo of Taylor and Sophie is

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Speaker 1: so epicate as a PR dream because the photo says

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Speaker 1: so much. It's two of Joe's exes coming together and

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Speaker 1: being friends, clearly because he's a dickhead. For those who

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Speaker 1: haven't seen this photo yet, Sophie and Taylor are walking

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Speaker 1: arm in arm and they really come across as this

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Speaker 1: united force. It's such a cute photo of them. They

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Speaker 1: look thick as thieves. Yeah, and there's also paparazzi vision

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Speaker 1: of them hugging in the restaurant and they're sort of

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Speaker 1: sitting right near the window. I mean, it's the perfect

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Speaker 1: photo opportunity. And I do love that Sophie remained quiet

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Speaker 1: even after all of this negative publicity came out about her.

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Speaker 1: But now she stepped out with the perfect photo and

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Speaker 1: she hasn't had to utter her ex's name, and without

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Speaker 1: saying anything, she's expressed herself. So well, yeah, well the

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Speaker 1: picture speaks a thousand words. I also love that they

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Speaker 1: decided to go to Joe's favorite restaurant. I think again,

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Speaker 1: it's quite clear that Sophie and Taylor have come together

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Speaker 1: to make that decision. Yeah, this was discovered by someone

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Speaker 1: on TikTok, so they thought, oh, what is that restaurant

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Speaker 1: they're heading into, and they googled it and a news

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Speaker 1: article popped up saying, oh, this is Joe Jonas's favorite restaurant.

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Speaker 1: The two of them are masterminds, and I just love

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Speaker 1: that they're showing two really powerful women coming together in solidarity.

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Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of when you break up

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Speaker 1: with someone and you do think maybe I should touch

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Speaker 1: base with their ex see what that poor woman's had

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Speaker 1: to put up with. The thing that cracks me up

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Speaker 1: is it does appear that this is something that Sophie

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Speaker 1: and Taylor thought to do. I mean, I could be wrong,

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Speaker 1: and there could be numerous pr teams involved, but it

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Speaker 1: just strikes me as something So Taylor Swift, well, her

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00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: brand is revenge, and I love that she has injected

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Speaker 1: herself into this story. I mean, she's the busiest woman

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Speaker 1: at the moment, the busiest and most famous woman at

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Speaker 1: the moment, but she's got time to be petty like this.

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Speaker 1: I love it. And this friendship isn't a new thing. So,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned earlier, Taylor was a big fan of

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Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. She told Entertainment Weekly that a number

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Speaker 1: of the songs she wrote for her album Reputation were

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Speaker 1: inspired by the show, and later that year they appeared

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Speaker 1: on The Graham Norton Show and greeted each other with

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Speaker 1: a big hug. Then, in twenty twenty, after the birth

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Speaker 1: of Sophie and Joe's first daughter, Taylor infamously included a

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Speaker 1: lyric about sending them a gift. In her song Invisible String,

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00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: the lyrics says cold was the steal of my axe

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Speaker 1: to grind for the boy who broke my heart. Now

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Speaker 1: I send their baby's presence. I love this final touch.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks before Joe and Sophie officially

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Speaker 1: announced their divorce, Sophie was out a Jonas brother's concert

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Speaker 1: and she was spotted wearing a bracelet that said mister

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Speaker 1: perfectly fine. Surely they were still together if she was

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Speaker 1: at the concert though, Yeah, if she might have just

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Speaker 1: been looking after the kids, obviously things were on the rocks.

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Speaker 1: Then I feel like this was probably just a bit

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Speaker 1: of an in joke. Maybe she'd made it for the

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Speaker 1: Ears tour and wore it to see if anyone noticed.

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Speaker 1: I like to think that she wholeheardly believe some of

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Speaker 1: those lyrics about Joe Jonas being a total dirt. But

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Speaker 1: imagually breaking up with your husband and there's already a

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Speaker 1: disc song to listen to your straight away. You would

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Speaker 1: capture everything you were thinking in that moment. Now, I

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