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Speaker 2: Wap from ninety six af AM to where maybe you'll

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Speaker 2: listening today This is Crazy and Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the podcast today, Chris Isaac, the.

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Speaker 2: Woman who was about to marry her Ali Hologram, and.

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Speaker 3: We dove into Clazy's music books sticking around in the

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Speaker 3: year nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 1: Chris Isaac with us. Now, good morning, Chris, Chris, good morning.

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Speaker 4: Should we start off with your theme song?

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Speaker 5: I think we should.

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Speaker 4: Clercy and Lee, Sir had already your show.

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Speaker 6: They brought the good times wherever they go here they are.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: What an extra fin us theft last time you were here,

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Speaker 3: you were This didn't happen in Post because we don't

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Speaker 3: have trams, but you were busking on a tramp somewhere

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Speaker 6: I remember playing on a bus and people looking at

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Speaker 6: me like this guy looks dangerous because here we are.

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Speaker 6: We start just singing on a bus and people are

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Speaker 6: not used to that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's true.

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Speaker 3: It's all just it's like being in an elevator straight ahead.

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Speaker 6: I've done that on an airplane. This is a true story.

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Speaker 6: One time we were on an airplane and the stewardess

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Speaker 6: came up and she said, oh, I love your music.

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Speaker 6: She said, I see you have your guitar. Will you

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Speaker 4: I go sure?

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Speaker 6: I said, hey, I'll play any song you want if

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Speaker 6: you let my buddy come up into first class. She

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Speaker 6: said sure, I will, and I said, you'll let him

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Speaker 6: up in first class, I'll serenade the whole plane and

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Speaker 6: my buddy and I, Kenny and I walked down the

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Speaker 6: and people looked frightened.

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Speaker 4: Exactly. I was like, why are you singing at me?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Kenny dal Johnson, the legend himself. I remember

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Speaker 2: been as much fun without you. You might one of

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Speaker 2: the great drummers of all time. But he's the big man.

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Speaker 2: How's he going doing great?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: Kenny's one of those guys. Well, Clarisey you met him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's one of those guys that he scares people

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Speaker 6: Guy and he's got dark guys and people look at

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Speaker 6: and I go, he's the nicest guy in the world.

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Speaker 4: It's the bass player. You got to watch out.

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Speaker 3: Have you the same band for a long time? Weren't

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Speaker 3: you in a rockabilly band with them? Originally?

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Speaker 6: I had a three piece band originally, and then somebody

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Speaker 6: pointed out, Chris.

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Speaker 7: You're a lousy guitar player. Thanks, so I said, okay,

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Speaker 7: but I got a better guitar player. We've had the

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Speaker 2: You might plenty of movies over your time, but I

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Speaker 2: love the Wonders that Tom Hanks was in it too,

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Speaker 2: and that moment where the band I should say that

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Speaker 2: that thing you do is the name of the film.

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Speaker 2: But the band, the one that's got played in the radio,

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Speaker 6: I had a sixty four Chevy and I still have it,

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Speaker 6: my first reaction was, how did that happen? Because like,

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Speaker 4: And then I went, They're playing my song on the radio. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It must be surreal. You know, you mentioned your connection

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Speaker 3: His film Wild at Heart, and then he cast you

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Speaker 3: in Twin Peaks Firewalk with Me, one of the greatest

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Speaker 6: I am occasionally in contact with David and I love him.

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Speaker 6: You know, he was opening a movie and I saw

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Speaker 6: coming over. I'll bring Kenny in a drum kit. We'll

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Speaker 6: he's just I just like him. He's the funniest guy

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Speaker 6: because he's so straightforward.

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Speaker 6: Like somebody was talking to him. We were sitting out

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Speaker 6: Coca Cola no longer makes the little tiny bottles. They

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Speaker 6: weren't They stopped making the little tiny coke bottles for

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Speaker 6: a while. And David his face just dropped and he goes, no,

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Speaker 6: that's no good. That's no good. And I said, I said, well,

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Speaker 6: why why are you excited? He goes, because I like

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Speaker 6: those little cooked like a ten year old. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but from that comes absolute rights. Do you miss

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Speaker 6: That show was a lot of fun. I remember being

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Speaker 6: terrified because when the Australians talked fast, Yeah, it was

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Speaker 6: like I went it was Okay, I'll make a joke

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Speaker 6: out of myself that it was like, and we have Chris, Chris,

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Speaker 6: I can be advance. Yeah, no, not what I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: It just sounded like, you know, because there'd be one

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Speaker 6: They you shortened words that we don't shorten, yes, and

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Speaker 6: then talk about and I was going, I can't and

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Speaker 6: I had to go, excuse me, what did you say?

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Speaker 4: So while they talked, I kept the glance.

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Speaker 6: Of the teleprompter and then I would be able to, yeah, are.

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Speaker 3: You going to play us out with our own little

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Speaker 3: show tune? Thank you Chris Isaac.

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Speaker 4: It was on fire.

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Speaker 6: No one could see Clersey and Lisa.

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Speaker 4: Thanks better with Clericy and Lisa stuff in there, I.

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Speaker 5: Will take that man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris, Isaac.

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Speaker 4: More more Lisa more podcasts soon.

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Speaker 3: Well, just when you thought the world couldn't get any

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Speaker 3: more bonkers, a woman in Spain is about to marry.

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Speaker 3: I had an ai hologram AI has barely taken off

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Speaker 3: and I'm sorry, Yeah, I find it. I find it alarming, Yeah, frightening, altogether, undesirable,

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Speaker 1: Not this woman.

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Speaker 3: Alisha Framas has announced her plans to wed the hologram

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Speaker 3: called Alex. It's spelled ai l e X Alex. She

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Speaker 3: posted about their situationship that's one word for it, Alicia

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Speaker 3: on Instagram, saying we know that soon robots and humans.

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Speaker 1: Will be sexual partners.

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Speaker 3: Really okay, but for me, the next important step is

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Speaker 3: emotionally involving artificial intelligence with humans.

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Speaker 1: Alex won't be a permanent.

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Speaker 3: Fixture in Alicia's physical life because that would be too expensive.

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Speaker 3: Apparently you can do that with a real person pel

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Speaker 3: costure as well. He will be digitally added to videos

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Speaker 3: photo shopped into all her photos and she calls that

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Speaker 3: a relationship, a marriage. In fact, the wedding here's the kicker.

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Speaker 3: The wedding's going to be part of a tour of

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Speaker 3: different museums and venues and you can check it out

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Speaker 3: at Hybrid Hybrid Couples on Instagram for details.

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Speaker 1: So there is you know, there's.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason there but that sounds like a bit

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Speaker 3: of a sort of a you know what take, But

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Speaker 3: couple of stories shady you know, pret ghosting shade, I

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Speaker 4: C through it transparent.

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Speaker 5: Dark way.

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Speaker 3: But look, just recently, the last couple of weeks, I've

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Speaker 3: and is this the way.

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Speaker 1: Of the future? And there was serious stories, serious heart considerably.

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Speaker 3: I thought I was being punked. I kept looking behind,

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Speaker 1: Last time I checked means not real.

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Speaker 2: So multiple multiple times, you're thinking, is it April first?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Look, you know, I'm sure there's a place for AI.

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Speaker 3: I'm all for technology and all that, but it's not

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Speaker 5: Hey, when's the first holegram going to be on maths?

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that that hasn't already happened.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I've seen every season. I'm not convinced that

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Speaker 3: These were serious discussions discussing whether you know, you would

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Speaker 1: But that might be a better way to go. Is

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Speaker 4: Am?

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Speaker 1: I on candid Camera? I've long believed I'm on We're

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Speaker 5: Some I'm looking for Jim Carrey.

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Speaker 3: in a galaxy, far away, little green mid.

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Speaker 1: Life, justing themselves lived.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to get multiple heads off.

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Speaker 1: Some people will do anything to avoid an argument.

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Speaker 5: More Clezy More Lisa More Podcasts.

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Speaker 4: Delving deep into.

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Speaker 1: The archives of Perth music history.

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Speaker 2: Clezies Tragic Music Box nineteen eighty one. Lease, okay on

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Speaker 2: the Tragic Box today, you and I. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: We were still at school, Jessy babies. We were so

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Speaker 2: young and innocent. What one of us was. Let's start

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Speaker 2: with some numbers. Okay, we love the numbers. Nineteen eighty one,

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Speaker 2: Perth's median house price was forty three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: Currently it's about six hundred and sixty. Grand leader of

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Speaker 3: And the window of the service station which would have

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Speaker 2: It's just also bud yeah, bizarre thinking about petrol rosted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, strawberry blonde, yeah, South from Adele's champion ruckman Stephen Michael.

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Speaker 2: And he got a congratulatory telegram from wife Jenny, bloody

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Speaker 2: telegrams telegram warpstop are And in February of nineteen eighty one,

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Speaker 2: Lease Roxy Music played out Entertainment Center.

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Speaker 1: Smooth YEA smooth and Addictionary and there's a line.

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Speaker 2: So the Flesh and Blood tour it started back in

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Speaker 5: And so with the band.

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Speaker 2: Now, I know someone who's at this gig kidney. Someone

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Speaker 5: Wasn't going on. He had a saw back.

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Speaker 2: Brian Fury was like on stage in nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 2: She gave me three keywords sexy as hell Dipparently these days,

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Speaker 2: did I hung up? We just say sexy? Ah, yeah exactly,

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Speaker 2: So you think about it. Brian Ferry on stage, the jacket,

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Speaker 1: That wasn't a smirk, but it was smirk.

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Speaker 2: one eye. Brian comes on stage and Roxy music sideways. Look, yeah,

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Speaker 2: musos too. You had Filmman's in her own guitar. You

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Speaker 2: it sounded like this.

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Speaker 1: It's a dream come true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's all well and good, but you are going

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Speaker 2: You not getting there? Look we heard roxy music flesh

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Speaker 2: from that previous album Manifesto. The thrill of it all

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Speaker 2: old entertainment's had to run down the front when he

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Speaker 2: did Lovers the Drug.

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Speaker 1: The minute the lights went dark.

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Speaker 2: Love is the drug. So some people have been told,

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Speaker 2: that Jealous Guy. They did a cover of Jealous Guy

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Speaker 5: It a single.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful cover it was.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very fitting, And they played that gig in

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Speaker 2: very emotional. Tragic Music Box nineteen eighty one, Crazy

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Speaker 4: On Lisa Sam