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Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio right now is the

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Speaker 1: Lord Mayor of Darwin, convat Scarlets. Good morning to Yukon.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, a beautiful day, and I think we're heading

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Speaker 2: back to the Builder.

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Speaker 1: I reckon we might be too. It's certainly a little

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Speaker 1: bit more humid.

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Speaker 3: Out there is nash conditions coming again.

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Speaker 1: Now, Corn last week, we didn't get the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: catch up with you last week, but I know that

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Speaker 1: you would have been as disgusted.

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Speaker 2: As the rest of it, because if we have got

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Speaker 2: me here that week, I will be blonde, my stuck

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Speaker 2: because I was so so pissed off towards things like

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Speaker 2: that happening in the middle of Darwin. I've been here

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Speaker 2: for the years, keating, I never seen anything like that.

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Speaker 2: And we actually have a situation now, and I've been

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Speaker 2: taught by senior police officers that these guys are so

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Speaker 2: brazen that we'll stand up to the police.

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Speaker 3: Now. Now, that's unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: Now, to those of you listening who aren't sure what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about, or if you missed the show last Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: we did obviously cover extensively the situation that unfolded in

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Speaker 1: the CBD at the Woolworths center there the CBD with

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Speaker 1: people with knives brandishing knives. We know that the police

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Speaker 1: arrested one person, at least one person. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if they's set to be more arrest made. But con

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Speaker 1: you and I have been speaking about anti social behavior

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Speaker 1: on this show well for years, but really a lot

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Speaker 1: and with a real focus since the beginning of this year.

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Speaker 1: Now do you feel as though there's been any improvement?

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Speaker 3: No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: To hear in the policeman give any review, says I

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Speaker 2: can put the sequest tonight, but I can't guarantee there

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Speaker 2: are going to be enough people to get out tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Hold On, we've got the highest per capitol police force

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Speaker 2: in Australia. You've got nearly twice as many policemen as

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Speaker 2: when I was a minister in two thousand and one.

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Speaker 2: And you can't put people well, my suggestion is employ

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Speaker 2: a private person to actually do your ROSTA. She might

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Speaker 2: find policemeners put them out. Also, I reckon that the

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Speaker 2: policy of setting everybody who graduates from the college down

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Speaker 2: south first, it's wrong.

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Speaker 3: One should be reviewed.

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Speaker 2: Third, the Tukilometer law, bring it back quickly, and another

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Speaker 2: one make bridge Bay of bail and offense. Again, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it was a good experiment.

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Speaker 3: It failed.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the Facebook, most of the video

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Speaker 2: clips from cissydvs, the kids that are roaming around, they're

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Speaker 2: wearing bracelets. And on top of that, the kids that

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Speaker 2: they storm the news agency and the mall, they're wearing bracelets.

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Speaker 3: Store they feel untouchable.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is that we've got this issue with obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, with some of our youth recidivist defenders, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But then we've also got an

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Speaker 1: issue with people traveling in from community doing the wrong thing,

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Speaker 1: and quite frankly, they're incredibly intoxicated on the streets of

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Speaker 1: Some of the vision that we have seen in recent

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Speaker 1: weeks has been quite horrifying to say the least. How

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Speaker 1: do you reckon the two kilometer rules can help?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's more than that.

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Speaker 2: I wrote a four page later the Chief Minister expressing

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Speaker 2: what I think about the whole story. I told you

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Speaker 2: to bring back the tukilometer lot. I told them to

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Speaker 2: starn the BDR to address the second supply. I even

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Speaker 2: suggested that trust push. In order you have a disocial

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Speaker 2: behavior from a community here in Darwin, you get twelve

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Speaker 2: months in spension.

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Speaker 3: You can't come into Darwin or any other.

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Speaker 2: Set of where you bridge the law unless it's medical

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Speaker 3: I mean we have to address the issue.

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Speaker 2: People come from communities that they can only drink mental

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Speaker 2: strength beer.

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Speaker 3: They come to Darwin.

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Speaker 1: It's party con Why do you reckon that the government

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Speaker 1: seems so resistant on this? So why do you feel

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Speaker 1: like you know because the Chief Minister that essentially said

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Speaker 1: two kilometer rules she did say yesterday on the show

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Speaker 1: might keep to consider it if there is any day

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Speaker 1: are not the ones he likes well. But then of

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Speaker 1: course the you know, with the with the band drinkers register.

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Speaker 1: She has said that yes, she would like it to

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Speaker 1: work better and that she'll look at that. She's also

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Speaker 1: you think, like, do you think that's going to be enough.

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Speaker 3: It was four thirteen the afternoon in Woolworths.

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Speaker 2: It was twelve o'clock mid day at the storming of

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Speaker 2: the news agency. The more it was six o'clock in

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Speaker 2: the afternoon in full daylight where that woman took your

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Speaker 3: Now the lighting is are furfey.

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Speaker 2: If anybody's got a problem with lighting, the only thing

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Speaker 2: will address it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have got businesses who are saying that they

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Speaker 1: would like to see me.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to come to us and talk to us.

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Speaker 1: And look, I actually think when it comes to those

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Speaker 1: business owners saying it, you want to we want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that they are feeling as those things.

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Speaker 2: Again, our light is adjustable. We adjusted in certain times.

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Speaker 2: Now if there's something that blocks the light, like trees

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Speaker 2: overground trees will trim them. If they want extra lights there,

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Speaker 2: we'll put extra lights. But again, if you work at

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Speaker 2: night in Knaki Street, you can read the book in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the street.

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Speaker 3: It's full illuminated.

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Speaker 1: Con You sound like you've had enough when it comes

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Speaker 1: to this antisocial behavior.

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Speaker 2: We're in another one hundred and twenty nine nine nine

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Speaker 2: nine people in dow and had enough.

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Speaker 1: What's the next steps? From your perspective as the mayor,

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Speaker 1: what is the next steps here? Because you know you're

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Speaker 1: you are really re is writing what a lot of

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Speaker 1: is a feeling at the moment that we've had enough.

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Speaker 2: People try to pass the back to the council. Now,

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Speaker 2: council's got an outreach program. I've got two officers every

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Speaker 2: day go at six o'clock in the morning, told to

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Speaker 2: all the rough slippers, referred to services if there's a problem,

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Speaker 2: to to the police. I've got rages that go out.

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Speaker 2: Ragis have got limited powers. They're not policemen, they're rangers. However,

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Speaker 2: they work very close with the police, passing information to

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Speaker 2: the police. We pay four hundred thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 2: for the CBD patrol. We talked to the Latakia people.

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Speaker 2: We do everything. We've got the TV cameras, all of

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Speaker 2: lot of things regarding crime and a dissociate behavior.

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Speaker 1: TV cameras are enough or do you think we actually need?

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Speaker 1: And you've said up.

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Speaker 3: Before, question the police. Are they enough policemen monitoring the cameras?

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Speaker 3: Not the number of cameras. How many police officers more

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Speaker 3: to the cameras. That's a question.

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Speaker 2: You can have two thousand cameras, but if you've got

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Speaker 3: Waste of time.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I guess it's a hard one in

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Speaker 1: of the issues that they've got across the board. It

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Speaker 1: is tough, but you know, fundamentally, right now, people don't

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Speaker 2: No, I mean community policing. It's been at the corner

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Speaker 2: store of safe communities. I've been told that one by

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Speaker 2: commissioners after commissioners, after commissioners in my political life.

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Speaker 3: Where's the community policing now? Why it's not there?

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Speaker 2: Look, I know task force, I know we've got problem

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Speaker 2: with domestic violence, but we've.

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Speaker 3: Got problems on the streets now.

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Speaker 2: I would like to know why the achievements that will

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Speaker 2: not repeated to kilometer law, what's justification behind it? I

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Speaker 2: would like to know why did that make bits of

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Speaker 2: bailing offense again when so many bail bailed people continue offending, unpunished, untouchable.

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Speaker 3: Now people had enough. What we have to do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they've do and what my worst

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Speaker 2: fear is somebody would do something stupid and then everybody

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Speaker 3: Oh terrible, Well, action reaction. You have to be careful

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Speaker 3: what you wish for.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you have to remember

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Speaker 2: in our legislation, you're allowed to use rhythmal force.

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Speaker 3: What I don't want to see people search the force.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, unreasonable, That's exactly right, and we don't want to

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Speaker 1: you know, broking record.

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Speaker 2: But this is exactly what I hear all the time

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Speaker 2: from people in the city. People are not feeling safe.

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Speaker 2: People had enough for drunks through the street. People had

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Speaker 2: enough with people coming in our parks and they can't

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Speaker 2: use them. People had enough down in Bandila having tribes fighting.

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Speaker 2: People had enough having this kind of behavior inside.

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Speaker 1: The city corn There's plenty of other things on the

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Speaker 1: agenda that I do want to ask you about this morning,

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Speaker 1: and one of those is the waters Ward by election.

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Speaker 1: I understand that there is going to be an information session,

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Speaker 1: or there was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We had one yesterday. One person turned up. That's it.

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Speaker 2: So are you all right that it's on the twenty

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Speaker 2: seven August. You've got the opportunity to somebody to represent you. Now,

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Speaker 2: don't come later complaining about nothing happens when you don't

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Speaker 2: bother neither to nominate or to vote. Because you've got

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Speaker 2: the chance at the end of the day, the person

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Speaker 2: you're going to put select and elect, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be your voice in counsole. If you want your footpaths fixed,

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Speaker 2: if you want the podcosts fixed, if you want your

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Speaker 2: parts worded, you can actually do it yourself, but will

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Speaker 2: be better to actually have somebody there to make sure

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Speaker 2: that it's followed from A to Z. And it only

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Speaker 2: takes very little bit of your time, but at the

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Speaker 2: same time, you contribute something to our city. If you

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Speaker 2: want to nominate on the fifth of August, nominations open

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Speaker 2: and I think this on Friday and close on the

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Speaker 2: eleventh of August, with a by election on the twenty

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Speaker 2: seven of August.

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Speaker 1: Now, con I dig an email through the week from

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Speaker 1: one of our listeners about the busy foot path in

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Speaker 1: Bayview where at the moment it's not safe to walk.

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Speaker 1: There is work which is happening at the moment, but

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Speaker 1: apparently well there's actually no work happening at the moment.

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Speaker 1: It seems as though they're waiting for light bulbs. What's

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Speaker 2: Well, if the footpath is not safe to work at night,

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Speaker 2: we will close it down.

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Speaker 3: Now. The problem with like everybody. Every other business is down.

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Speaker 2: We've got problem with supply of goods and services.

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Speaker 3: Everybody complaining.

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Speaker 2: You had the speaking before about not having enough people

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Speaker 2: to actually address the issues in hotels. I've got the

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Speaker 2: same issue with people actually not to not finding enough

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Speaker 2: people to work, or when we order something, because usually

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Speaker 2: it has to come from down South, it will take

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Speaker 2: a month or a month a half.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I know that that the person who's spend

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Speaker 1: in contact lives in Bayview and is out there exercising

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Speaker 1: all the time and wants to know why can't the

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Speaker 1: footpaths still be worked on while you're waiting for the

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Speaker 1: light fittings or whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: I'll find out, Kate and come back to you.

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Speaker 2: However, if they use a click and fix application we've got,

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Speaker 2: they can actually get straight to the council and they

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Speaker 2: will get a reply.

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Speaker 3: But I will find out about it and come back

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Speaker 3: to your next program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know it's something that we've spoken about before,

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Speaker 1: and it is obviously an area where there's lots of

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Speaker 1: people working walking i should say exercising, and yeah, and

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Speaker 1: there's that there is actually a huge concrete light blocks

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Speaker 1: someone's bound to trip up, and that it's actually a

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Speaker 1: bit dangerous how it is.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Of course I accept that one, but as I do before,

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Speaker 2: we can do things, but we can't do miracles. But

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Speaker 2: certainly we'll find out why it is a problem and

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Speaker 2: we'll come back to you in that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Now, before I let you go saying this month,

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Speaker 1: what is the council doing for saying this month?

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Speaker 2: Did you go on Saturday to the seniors export? It

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Speaker 2: was magnificent, It was really good, so many people, absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 3: So we've got a lot of things to do with seniors.

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Speaker 2: We've got computer education classes, grandparents and grandchildren, morning tea,

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Speaker 2: drumming workshop, walking through Darwin's bidding and Dreamcatches workshop and

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Speaker 2: line dancing.

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Speaker 3: All of that presented by the City of Darwin.

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Speaker 2: You only got to have to go on our website

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Speaker 2: and you find out time place location were supporting our seniors.

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Speaker 2: I have to say that I'm so pleased we've got

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Speaker 2: it was very rarely you see somebody retiring in Darwin.

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Speaker 2: But now it becomes the place of preference. I can understand.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to put to pay hitting bills down

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Speaker 2: south which is a really good plus it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, Look, we are going to be catching up with

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Speaker 1: Sushira from Kosha, the Council.

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Speaker 3: Of the Item. Sure you've done tremendous job, yea, the

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Speaker 3: Seniors expert.

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Speaker 1: We will catch up with her a bit after ten

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Speaker 1: o'clock this morning. Now I am just hearing news as well,

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Speaker 1: and i'll certainly get onto this seat. Well that the

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Speaker 1: Voluntary Assisted Dying Bill did pass through parliament as I

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Speaker 1: understand at the Federal Parliament ninety nine to thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: according to Luke Gorsling. So we'll see what we can

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Speaker 1: find out.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, and that's not about it to die. It's the

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Speaker 2: right of territory partner to do it. Our legislation not

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Speaker 2: only for that but for other things. So we don't

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Speaker 2: have somebody who lives in Canberra or in Sydney or

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Speaker 2: Melbourne tell us how to live our life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think is fair enough that we get

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Speaker 1: to make that decision for ourselves. But I'll get onto that,

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Speaker 1: find out exactly what the go is go to Senate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that could be back be the where we hit a

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Speaker 1: bit of a roade block. Convat Scarl's good to catch

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Speaker 1: up with you this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Winging.

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Speaker 2: It's all right.

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Speaker 3: I think we're all.

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Speaker 1: Pretty fired up about the anti social behavior, so people

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Speaker 1: just want to see some change. They want to see

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Speaker 1: it fixed, you know, Coln, thank you as always