WEBVTT - BB INTRUDER JULES DROPS THE TRUTH BOMBS 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.080 TV Reload the podcast last week, Neyline. Welcome back to 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.639 TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this podcast 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.039 I go behind the scenes with the biggest players in television. 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.280 Each episode you will get a front row seat with 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:20.560 content makers like executive producers, writers, editors, and casting agents, 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.280 plus the talent that we see on our screens. TV 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.760 Reload reloads the shows that you were currently watching and 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.040 gives you a better insight at our television industry and 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.600 streaming services today. On the podcast, I have the first 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.599 intruder out of the Big Brother House. It's Jules, the 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.479 feisty intruder who took on the most loved player of 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.559 all time, Queen Reggie. Some intruder's players small game. They 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.360 creep in, hook up with housemates, and try and win 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:52.120 over audiences with a lovable attitude. No, not this bush. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.280 Jewels made deals, played a good game and unfortunately got 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.640 booted before all of her plans were fully executed. With 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.240 the best made in estelle and not always a clear 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.520 flight path with both alliances, Jules ruffled the feathers instead 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.440 of fluffing the feathers, and we will unpack her time. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.600 During this podcast, we will talk about Jules's work, including 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:17.160 her podcast, her relationships with the twenty twenty two housemates, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.480 a secret pash yep, you heard that right, some eavesdropping, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.000 and what this whole mess looks like for her. Now, however, 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.119 let's get started with today's guest. I'd like to welcome 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.120 Big Brother Intruder Jules to TV Reload. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.520 I don't think Tim's a bad person, but something is 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.560 going on, babe, and it's like I can't explain it. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.080 This year it's my twenty first birthday. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.679 You know what you're coming for me? I guess what 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.760 I'm couning for you. I'm not lying down. I'm not 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.039 taking this and. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:50.800 I've invited housemates both new and legendary. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.920 I was too grateful to be there to complain. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:58.560 Will experience be enough to take on the next generation 0:01:58.720 --> 0:01:59.560 of housemates? 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.480 Will I will never say his name, but I hooked 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:04.320 up with someone. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.880 And the new contenders out with the Big Brother Royalty. 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.600 It's not a natural state of being to watch people 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.720 talk so badly about you so openly. 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:15.560 This is Big Brother. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.560 Hi, Jules, how are you? 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.920 Yay? I'm so good? Thank you so much? For having me. 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.960 What an honor to be with one of the greats 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:24.679 the alumni. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:29.160 Well, I have to start by saying well done, because 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.560 I might be suffering from some grand delusion, but I 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.919 can't remember an intruder ever in the history of Big 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.480 Brother trying to make an impact as much or as 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:39.280 hard as you did. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.480 Yeah, well, that was kind of the aim of the game. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.920 So even when I was because I know, I knew 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.040 going in I wouldn't be I'd be there for a 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.440 good time and not a long time. I was very realistic, 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.240 and I've got the personality to get myself in a 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.600 lot of trouble. I love to I can't shut the 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:55.760 fuck up, and it's gotten to me in a lot 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.880 of bad situations in my life. So before going in, 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.320 my girl friend said, well, what's the worst outcome in 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.520 your mind? What is the worst outcome? And I said, 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.320 the worst outcome would be I act like a wallflower. 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.560 I try and be everyone's besties, and I try and 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.760 be really quiet and cute, and Meek and I get 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.720 out on the first night like so they said, oh, 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.120 Do'll just go in there and funck shit up. So 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:18.720 that was actually the aim of the game. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.720 You know, this is so frustrating to me. Can an 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.680 intruder ever win in Big Brother? Why is it so hard? 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.079 Oh, you're just on the back foot immediately, and especially 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.239 going in with the Ogs who have such an old 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.680 school mentality. What was that saying? They always say last 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.920 in first out, last in first out. I actually didn't 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.120 even they didn't even know my name until week two. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:41.920 I was just the intruder. We've got to get the 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.320 intruder out. We've got to get the inn. And you 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.080 would have seen, as you know Regg, when Reggie was 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.240 gunning for me, it was kind of never duels. It 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:48.800 was we got to get one of them has to go, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.040 one of them has to go. So it's such an 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.280 uphill battle. People think it's a free ride. It's completely 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.640 the opposite, completely, you know. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.680 It's funny though, I got put in last out of 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.720 all the housemates, and so people said that to me 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.200 for the first two weeks. People were like, you know, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:09.200 last in, first out, And in actual fact, this is 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.760 a bit, a bit of something I shouldn't really reveal. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.680 But anyway, I threw a drink of water in someone's face, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.040 very controversially, but that was after that person had said 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.680 to me that whole day was like, you know, you're 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.960 going home because you know you were the and he 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.800 was actually only repeating something that the alpha male was 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:30.360 really saying inside the house. But I understand that feeling 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.000 that you would have inside the Big Brother House probably 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:34.600 harder than you would realize. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.800 It's so much. It is so hard, and I'm such 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.640 a you know what. As soon as I walked in though, 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.720 and knowing my character, I was like, Oh, I get it. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.719 I get the vision. I'm five foot ten, I'm athletic looking. 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:52.279 I'm not athletic, unfortunately, but I'm athletic looking. Yeah, you know, 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.320 I always stick up for people, always kind of. I'm 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.680 always like and I think that's why it happened. We'll 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.240 get into it. But with the whole tim and stell thing, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.840 I was always like to a he's cooked, you know, 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.400 so I'm always speaking my mind. So I did. I 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:09.520 understood it, But yeah, you kind of everyone just feels 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.320 like you've gotten this free ride, but no one wants 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.720 to include you in anything. It was actually such a 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.160 lonely time, like even though you're sleeping with twenty other 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.279 people in the house, it was such a lonely time. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.120 And you just felt like you were constantly on the outskirts. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.240 I'm yet to talk to Brenton, so I want to 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.720 see how he felt. But that's how I felt anyway. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.680 Well, yeah, I guess they've got to try and separate 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:32.719 you as much as possible, because you know, you don't 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.080 want to have to collude too much. And you know 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.359 what would be left for all of those fights on 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.320 Twitter if if we had you talking behind closed doors? 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.000 Would you imagine? I know everyone seems to the Big 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.359 Brother people seem to be holding up the whole Internet 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.719 these days, so I'm sure journalists are thanking their lucky 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.040 stars that we've all gone a bit. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.520 Skits, yeah, dishing it out for free. You know, I 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.480 want to start at the start because I've kind of 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.520 got a little bit ahead of myself. But it would 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.760 have been remissive me to not just bang go straight 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.440 into Why does an intrue in your mind find it 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.320 so hard? But how consuming has this Big Brother experience 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.400 been for you? You know? Do you have a ritual 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.080 on how you watch the show? 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.000 Just with the red wine in my hands? No, you 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:12.680 know what? And I was thinking that last night when 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:17.080 I was getting a bit emotional. I wasn't physically, but 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.560 you know, I could feel myself being I was like, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.800 you know what it's happened, So why are you getting 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.800 so emotional? But I was in the house by myself. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.800 My housemates are away in Balley, that's whole other ordeal, 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.680 and I thought, I can't be doing this on my own, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.760 like I need a kind of a support network, because 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.799 it's not a natural state of being to watch people 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.119 talk so badly about you so openly. So I actually 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.280 don't have any rituals and it's probably too late, but 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.520 I hit it hard on the weekend, so maybe that's 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:43.080 my escape. 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.680 Yeah, I mean I was from an iteration of the 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.440 show where it was not live. I mean, sorry, it 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.320 was live, so you know, I never watched it with 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.160 the general public. But I can imagine that would be 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.560 just the such a such a wave of emotion, such 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.440 a pressure being pulled on top of you because you're 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.039 consuming something at the same time they are, and you're 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.520 processing it as fast as they are, so you know, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.640 when people ask you questions, you know you've got to 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.720 try and explain it and process it. You know, it 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.600 would be I don't know, for me, it just sounds 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:16.120 quite stressful. Yeah. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.560 Well, even in the house, you would have seen I 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.520 was in the closet in the boudoir, and I was 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.000 hearing people talk about me, and even then I thought, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.760 oh gosh, oh gosh, And watching it back, I'm like, well, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.400 of course, like there was a whole It wasn't one chat, 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.440 there was a whole movement to get me out. I 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.280 had just clued onto one little conversation. So at the 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.720 time it was already heartbreaking. So watching it back and 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.880 seeing my alliance come actually gunning for me and no 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.720 one else in their sights, that was really hard to watch. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.040 Yeah, coming from someone who spent a lot of time 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.600 growing up in the closet, I know that closets are 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:49.320 always really. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.640 Hard, very hard to walk out of. I'm sure not 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:53.320 as had as your closet, But yeah. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.120 Such a such a dad joke or what is it? 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.440 Such a lame joke to go for right now? But anyway, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.800 I'm doing it here. Did you find yourself in the 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.120 Big Brother House? Have you applied for reality TV shows before? 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:04.400 So? 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.920 I grew up watching Big Brother, as did the rest 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.840 of Australia. I was making my friends play Friday Night Live. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.120 I was making us you know, made a little die room. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.560 I was obsessed. I actually think that's I had big 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:16.680 Brother to thank for my career now talking about sex 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.320 and relationships so openly, not because I'm good at both. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.480 I'm actually terrible at both, and it makes for a 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.800 good pod class. So I think I have big Brother 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.800 up late to thank for that. So when it got 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.840 taken away, when in my early twenties, whenever the gap was, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.720 I was heartbroken. I thought, oh gosh. And then when 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.080 Channel seven said they'll bringing you back, I'm quite woo woo. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.600 So I was like, this is my time, the universe, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.280 all that jazz. So I applied and got into like 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.200 the second round for three years ago whenever it first 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:47.080 came back and they took on my photos and all that, 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.480 and I thought I was a sure thing, which is 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.920 hilarious looking back of what you actually have to go 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.360 through to get into that house. Just because they took 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.440 one photo and an iPad, I was like, Oh, I'm 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:59.920 the next best thing. And then that kind of went 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.400 away and I thought, oh, well, that's reality gone. I 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.320 got into media, and then I actually came to a 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.199 point where I didn't want to do reality because I've 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.200 seen the backlash that something people can get. And then 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.160 yet Channel seven reached out said we think you're very entertained. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.640 Would you consider going into the Big Brother House? And 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.800 I'm very like, spiritually, I thought, this is coming back 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.040 to me. I'm a big believer. If it comes back 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:23.600 to you, it's meant for you. And the fact that 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.760 I had applied three years ago, I was like, this 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.200 is me. And then months go by and I'm doing 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.679 the police work and that you have to be clean 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.480 as a whistle to go on. Honestly, it was a 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.280 bit hit and miss there. I thought for a second, 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:36.959 they said, are you pregnant? I said, oh, fuck, I 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.120 don't know. I have to wait another three weeks. Aha. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:45.400 Then so we do all that, and then it gets 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:49.480 to October something something stupid, and I've been in limbo 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.480 for like months and months and everyone's saying, are you 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.079 going on? I was like, I don't know. And they 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.280 call me and I've basically got my bags packed, broken 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:00.360 up with my four boyfriends, you know, and I said, 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.079 we're on here. And then they called me and they said, oh, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.120 you actually haven't gotten through. And I thought you approached me, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.240 don't like, don't call me like and I've been in 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.840 this weird limbo thing. I said, that's fine, never ever 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.120 call me again unless I'm one hundred percent going in 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.400 the house. And then two weeks later, but I get 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.360 the vision. I was always going in. I was always 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.240 going They were always picking me as the intruder. I 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.480 just I know it. And then two weeks later, I'm 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.040 at the pub with my mates and my phone lights 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.360 up and it says big Brother. I'm like, I'm going in. 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:27.360 I'm going in the house. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:32.040 And you did I know, you know what this is? 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.960 How much of a g up it was? They gave 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.640 me three We were a week out of lockdown, so 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:42.160 everything has overgrown everything, you know, I've put on it. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.080 I was carrying a bit a bit more, you know, 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.360 white wine weight at eleven am and they said you're 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.440 going in three days. So I thought, shit, what do 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.160 I do? Do I get my hair done or get 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:52.719 my laser done? 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.040 Had to choose, what did you get done my hair? 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.320 Unfortunately, for every time I went in the pool, everyone 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.280 was like, oh, there's jewels, little Tasmania, just. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.280 Putting it out there, just putting it out there. But 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.160 had you so big Brother was your dream? But you 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.000 know there's all these other reality shows that I can 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.480 imagine someone like yourself. I mean, you're a beautiful girl, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.480 you're outspoken, I mean you're You're a producer's dream in 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.640 my mind. So I'm assuming that you might have applied 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.640 for other shows along the way. What about Love Island 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:22.400 or The Bachelor? 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.480 No, because I've got size ten point five feet, so 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.959 i can't walk around the pool in heels for twelve 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.960 hour days. Honestly, that was something that that kept coming up. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.719 I thought, I just can't be in heels for that long. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.720 And I've got Bunyan's and web toes. It's just not 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:40.040 a good site. So no, it was only Ever Big Brother. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.559 You can take my word. I promise it's only Ever 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.319 Big Brother. I haven't applied for anything else, but if 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:46.680 anyone else is listening. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.240 Yeah, Well, I think the interesting thing about you is, 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.440 you know, you have your own podcast, and you know 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.720 you talk to some high profile guests on the show. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.760 You know, after podcasting having celebrity guests, and now you've 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.400 been on the other side of the fence, how do 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:09.480 you see reality television? Has it changed your impression of 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:10.000 the whole thing? 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.400 Oh, one hundred percent. The magic has gone. I actually 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.800 can't watch it anymore. I love Big Brother. I will 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.040 always watch Big Brother, but Love Island and Everything, something 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.680 that I used to be glued to and have my 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:27.160 notifications on, I actually can't watch it because I mean, 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.439 I think I came out in a great light and 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.760 people might disagree, but for me, I came out like 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.760 quite Scott free. So I'm happy. But some of the 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.640 conversations in there that went on, and then now that 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.000 audio has been used on top of other things, I'm like, Oh, 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.240 I just don't know what to believe anymore. But the 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.760 people have to make great shows working in media, and 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.800 you would understand more than anyone. You have to make 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.440 a great show. Who cares about the friendships you made. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.800 It's whatever great storyline people going to get hooked to, 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:53.880 They're going to play that. And I respect that and 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:54.640 I understand that. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.320 Although I went into the Big Brother House as a 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.360 super fan, you know, and I'm loving Johnson because of that, 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.920 and I'm now knowing more about you, I'm loving that 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.000 about you as well. And so I just for two 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.040 weeks I was so stressed about being eliminated. I just 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.680 was not really myself and I just was doing the 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.040 version of what I thought would be good television. So 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.200 I was like Brenda from nine oh two one zero, 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.079 and I was sort of prickly and a bit of 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.560 a bitch, and I'd say whatever I was going to say. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:24.120 And then I got nominated and just was saved by 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.240 the smallest amount of votes from Australia. And then I 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.720 just was like, oh, I can't keep this up for 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.440 you know, however long I'm going to be here. So 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.920 I'm just going to have to have to be myself. 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.720 And so it's a hard conversation for a super fans 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.200 to have. You know, are we emulating something that we've 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.400 seen before or are we just truly gonna be ourselves? 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.640 Oh, that's such a good question. That is such a 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.440 good question because I kind of get asked something like 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.400 a similar question quite often, is you know, would you 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.720 act differently if you could do your time again? Would 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:00.400 you act differently? And the question probably like the answer 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.800 to your question is I guess to an extent, but 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.640 aren't we always acting how we think we should be? 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.200 In the real world? You know, there's those friends that 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.560 your true self around, but they're very can I probably 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.960 can assume you've probably got three of those friends. So 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.679 I think we're actually always in drag, all of us, 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:18.280 more often than we think. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.040 Yeah, I think you're right. I think I don't know. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.400 And I think we're always evolving as well with the 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.000 wham which we want to present ourselves. I mean, I'm 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.440 in my forties now and I'm presenting myself so differently 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.400 to how I was in my twenties, and so I guess, yeah, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.760 you're right. We probably, you know, always changing how we 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.160 feel about ourselves and how we want others to see us. 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.040 So I guess a bigger question than Big Brother, really, 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:42.400 isn't it. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.960 Yeah, I mean people right into us for the amount 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.040 of I do it. I think called the hotline, and 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.400 I had to actually create that because I was getting 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.080 swamped with please help me, please help me, people looking 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.280 at me for advice. And now if you knew my 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:58.120 real life, I'm like the bender queen, can't hold down 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:02.200 anyone like it's a mess. So I think yeah, and 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.200 I think I'm acting. I have imposter syndrome a lot 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.160 with that side of things. So I think we're speaking 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:09.320 the same language right now. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.280 They're the best people to go to jewels, the best 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.800 people to go to are the hot messes. Don't go 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.800 to the person down the street who luckily walked into 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.800 their husband when they were twenty one and they've got 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.120 children and the pick of fence. We want to talk 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.240 to the people who are on the ground floor dealing 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.520 with this shit every day. And that's the relatable currency 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.280 jewels that you have, you know, on your podcast The 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:30.720 Good Bitch. 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.920 I'm such a I'm actually such a big believer in 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.800 hitting rock bottom completely, Like I truly believe that that's 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.480 where things happen because you know what, that's where you 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.800 start to change your life. That's where I know when 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.120 I've been like down the darms, can't get out of bed, 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.960 I'm like, you know what, I am going to shoot 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.440 my shot with that guy or I Am going to 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.720 shoot my shot with that job and do something crazy 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.840 because it's where you start to move. You think anywhere 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.360 but here is better. 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.760 Well, what sets The Good Bitch apart? Because you know, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.440 we're in this landscape of you know, saturation of podcasts 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.720 and it's only growing, but you have this cut through 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.160 with this particular podcast. You know, what is it that 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.880 makes it different? To say some of the other podcasts 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.520 that are out there that are doing similar things. 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.240 I was so saturated. That is the perfect word to 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.760 describe the market at the moment when we started in 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.640 early twenty twenty. I love podcasts. I don't think I've 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.720 listened to music for fucking ten years, to be honest. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.960 I love podcast I'm addicted. But everything I was listening 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.000 to was very dream believe, achieve. But I was listening 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.600 to them from these influences that make I don't know 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.240 fifty k a pop. And I'm thinking, you don't know me, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.600 Like you don't understand that I've just been on Centerlink 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.840 or my parents are asking for money. You have no idea. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.760 So no, I'm not going to fucking drink my lemon 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.640 water and hope to the stars that things happen. So 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.000 that's what Good Bitch came from. It was like, let's 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.680 just try our hardest with what we've got, And where 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.720 are my girls who are shopping at Audi who are 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.200 getting black out and accidentally sleeping with their ex? Like 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.080 I want to talk to those girls and just let 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.600 them know that they're not bad people. Yes, we can 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.560 do bad, we can improve that we're not bad people. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.920 Jeels, I'm going to say something which I think is, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.320 you know, from working in radio and interviewing reality people 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:09.880 for such a long time, I'm going to say something 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.760 which is going to be as annoying as it is 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.879 to hear. You have so much more to offer just 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.359 even listening in this podcast than what we saw on 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.000 that show. And you know that must be really frustrating 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.680 few to hear from people in the media at this point. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.800 I mean, you were fantastic, but just. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:27.879 I understand what I'm saying. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.239 You know, Like, I'm fifteen minutes into talking to you, 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.560 and I'm like, this is an like you are, Yeah, 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:34.680 You've got a lot to offer. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.920 No, I'm so grateful, Thank you so much for saying that. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:42.120 That's a really kind thing. I actually agree. And Sella 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.000 and I talk on the phone a lot and we're 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.840 both like, wow, they've cut out all of my storylines. 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.440 But do you know what, looking back on it now, 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.280 because all the dms I'm getting, I probably got two 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.639 hate dms, which in reality land nothing nothing. Everyone is 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.760 like our relatable queen, our queen, our queen. So I'm 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.720 low key glad that I was just a prop in 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.119 the background for the nine out of twelve episodes that 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.199