1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Now, as I mentioned just a moment ago, the NT 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: election is now just ten months away and political parties 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: no doubt getting themselves organized. And the opposition t revealed 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: two candidates for the Palmeston area, with Matthew Kurl set 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: to recontest Blaine, while Army veteran and business owner Clinton 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Howie is going to be running for Drysdale. Now joining 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: me on the show is the opposition leader, Leah fanocchiar 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Og boarding to. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: You, Leah. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, into your listener now, Leah. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Two candidates revealed on the weekend after the COLP conference 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: in Darwin on Saturday, and former Chief Minister Shane Stone 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: was elected as the president, replacing Sean Heenan. Firstly, is 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: it a case of returning the old guard with Shane 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Stone stepping back in as the president. 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: No, it's really exciting. 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: Shane served in the country Liberal Party overs in a 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: variety of ways. He's been president dating back to nineteen 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 4: eighty nine, Katie, but also long serving member of Parliament, 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 4: Chief Minister. He's been President of the Liberal Party of Australia. 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: He's held a number of roles in political, public and 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: private life and brings a wealth of experience, so we're 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: very excited to have him back on board, and of 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: course then to announce two new candidates is very exciting. 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: Gear up. 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Is it a situation here where you know where he's 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: been brought in to try to keep the party calm 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: ten months out from an election. 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: No, it was unanimous. 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: Sean Heenan was actually the one who put Shane up. 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: Shan's remained on as vice president, which is fantastic and 32 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 4: people are very excited. You know, we need to show 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: Territorians we're very serious about winning the next election and 34 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: with Shane's experience, it's going to put the party in 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: a really strong position to be able to support that 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 4: going forward. So the parliamentary team are very excited. Our 37 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 4: member base is strong and we continue to grow in 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 4: strength and that's what people want to see. 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: I guess it does give the Labor Party the opportunity 40 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: though to say that the COLP is like the old 41 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: boys Club. Look, they're bringing back old politicians you know 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: that have run before, or old chief ministers because they're 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: well they use a line. 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: On new in parliament. It's something along the lines of 45 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: having a lack of ideas or. 46 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: One trick pony here. 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: Yep, there's a few different lines. 48 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: So we've had a situation where you know where they're 49 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: now going to be able to say that you've you 50 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: know that you've got the old boys back in ready 51 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: to try and sort this out. 52 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 4: Labor will say anything they can to try and throw 53 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: mud at the CLP or me because they're desperate and 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: instead of playing political games, they need to be looking 55 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: in their own backyard and sorting out the territory which 56 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: is crumbling to pieces under their terming governments, so they 57 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: can say what they want. Katie, We're not focused on them. 58 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 4: We're focused on territorians who are telling us they want 59 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: a safe and strong territory and that is our plan 60 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 4: to deliver if we're elected in August. 61 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: Now, in addition to that, Matthew Cool and Clinton Howe, 62 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: I believe this is how it's pronounced. Apologies for that 63 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: are going to be running in Palmerston. Did you have 64 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: a few people put their hands up? 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had really a good numbers of people putting 66 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 4: their hand up, really great people, and that's wonderful. It's 67 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: wonderful to see territorians coming forward to take the fight 68 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 4: to Labor, to see the destruction that they've caused, and 69 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 4: to want to make a difference and to make the 70 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: territory strong, safe, and a wonderful place to live. So 71 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: I'm really excited about the opportunities going forward with our 72 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: remaining seats. 73 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: But to have Matthew curl recontest Blaine is great. 74 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 4: He only lost by thirteen votes and so people really 75 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: responded to his connection to that community. And Clinton Howe 76 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: a business owner, a former army, veteran, family man, fantastic 77 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: guy to represent people in Drysdale. 78 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: Leah, what makes you think that Matthew's going to win 79 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: this time round. 80 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: Matthew's really great on the ground. 81 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: He's got that connection with people in Blaine, and he 82 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: will be out there on the doors, in the parks, 83 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: in the community. And ultimately, Territorians need to understand that 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: only with a change of government will there be a 85 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: change of the territory. And so you know, voting for 86 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: independence in this election is going to be a really 87 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: dangerous and risky move because it literally will threaten continuing 88 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: on with a labor government that's destroyed this place. 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: Now, I've got a message here that's come through from Susie, 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: and she's asking good morning, Mixed team love that Shane 91 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Stone's been appointed President of the COLP. Can you please 92 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: ask Lea if he lives in the territory so that 93 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: he definitely has the territory's interest at heart. 94 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: Yes, I can confirm that, Thank you, Susie. And I 95 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: think no one who anyone who knows Shane will. 96 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: Know that his great love is the territory. 97 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: And so you've got a passionate fighter in him, you know, 98 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: obviously a passionate fighter in me and the rest of 99 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 4: the party and the team. 100 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: You know. 101 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: We we're celebrating fifty. 102 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: Years as a territory party next year, Katie, and so 103 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: we take our responsibility to the community very very seriously. 104 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: As a homegrown political party. 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 2: I want to move along. 106 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: John Howard and Tony abbotsh on the weekend declared the 107 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: Northern Territory a failed state because of its inability to 108 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: provide basic services to remote communities, including education, and believe 109 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: that the voice to Parliament's going to well not going 110 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: to improve practical outcomes for Indigenous people in Central Australia. 111 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: That is what is reported by the Australian newspaper on 112 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: the weekend. The former Liberal Prime ministers who implemented the 113 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Coalition's two thousand and seven intervention into the Northern Territory, 114 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: which included those alcohol bands and also placing military personnel 115 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: in some remote communities, said that little had changed for 116 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Indigenous Australians in the fifteen years since the Coalition government's action. 117 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: Lea, do you think the Northern Territory is a failed state? 118 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: No, we're not a fad state. What we've had is 119 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: failed labor governments. 120 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: In the laws have been in power as well four 121 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: of those years. 122 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: That's right, and I'll explain that further in the last 123 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: twenty two years. In the Northern Territory. 124 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 4: The CLP has only been in government for four and 125 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: sure they weren't our most standout years, but what we've 126 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: got is two decades of labor who've absolutely walked away 127 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: from people in the bush. And that's why the COLP 128 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: is so focused on re empowering Aboriginal people across the 129 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: territory through local government reform. We wholeheartedly believe that what 130 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: was done by labor in two thousand and eight to 131 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: dismantle leadership and community government across the territory has had 132 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: a devastating impact on people. To be able to have 133 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: control of their lives and their communities, and it's something 134 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: we're fighting tirelessly to change and are out to consultation 135 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 4: actively with people all over the territory about how we. 136 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: Can strengthen that and strength strengthen that empowerment. 137 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean those four years so that the COLP was 138 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: in power, a Royal commission was called into the treatment 139 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: and detention of young people at don Dale. We know 140 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: that public servants were sacked. We also know that TiO 141 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: was sold and the port was leased. They certainly were 142 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: not stand out years, you know, from a lot of 143 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: territorian's perspectives. So I guess if we're talking about fail 144 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: governments over fiften years, you know at that election as well, 145 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: the COLP was almost totally decimated. 146 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: And I'm not walking away from that, Katie. 147 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: And that's why we've got a new team, and that's 148 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: why we've worked tirelessly to rebuild that trust and confidence. 149 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: But no matter what people think about that previous period 150 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: of time, the territory was safer and our economy was strong, 151 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: and so our commitment to the territory going forward has 152 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: always been for stable leadership, stable government. We will always 153 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: talk about what's important to territorians, not what's important to 154 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: us personally. We will always put their right to be 155 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: safe above the rights of criminal and we will always 156 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: fight for them to have the lifestyle they deserve, which 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: means good jobs, affordable housing and a cost of living environment. 158 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: Where they can support their family to live their best life. 159 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Lea John Howard said that changes to the Constitution to 160 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: include an Indigenous voice to Parliament and executive government would 161 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: be tied up for years and would not do anything 162 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: to address the problems facing Abridge children in the Northern Territory. 163 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 4: Do you agree, Yeah, I don't see how the voice 164 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: is going to have any benefit. I actually think it's 165 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: going to be a detractor because of that added layer 166 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: of bureaucracy, because of a lack of representation of the 167 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: territory on a voice, and I think the impact is 168 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: not going to get on the ground. I really am 169 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: concerned and I certainly will be voting no at the referendum. 170 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: Cane Lea just. 171 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Finally, the National Children's Commissioner, has come out today speaking 172 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: to the ABC and said that she's increasingly concerned about 173 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: government accountability for the human rights of children in the 174 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Northern Territory after a video emerged showing the Barkley Regional 175 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Council mayor sitting on a child. So Jeffrey McLaughlin has 176 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: rejected calls for his resignation over that footage which shows 177 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: him sitting on a child understood to be between eleven 178 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: and twelve years old, while another man makes threats against 179 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: the boy. Now the counselor sees or he alleges that 180 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: the child broke into his home in Tenant Creek last August. 181 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: But we've now got a situation and where The National 182 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: Children's Commissioner has said that although she recognized communities were 183 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: frustrated with crime, she believed that a pattern was emerging 184 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory and referenced that recent video which 185 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: we spoke about very extensively on this show, which was 186 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: published by the Northern Territory Police to its official Facebook page, 187 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: which depicted police chasing two Indigenous teenagers through burnt bushland 188 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: set to music. She said, I did write to the 189 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: Police Minister asking for the Northern Territory Police video to 190 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: be removed because what I saw, which was police hunting 191 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: down children using dogs in quite dramatic, almost like a 192 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: television program sort of video. I felt that that had 193 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: the potential to incite violence against children and incite vigilanteism essentially. 194 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: What do you make of those comments. 195 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: I think at the time it's ridiculous. 196 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 4: You think in Children's Commission would have better things to do, 197 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: like protecting vulnerable children. What we're talking about is police 198 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: doing their job to catch crim and I'm not sure 199 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: what planet some of these people live on, but when 200 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: you're a police officer and you're dealing with a criminal, yeah, 201 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: you have to chase them, you have to use force. 202 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: There's a whole range of things. And this is why 203 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: our police feel so abandoned by labor, because labor are 204 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 4: not standing up for our police who have a very 205 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: difficult job. 206 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: You cannot the. 207 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: Police Minister didn't ask them to take that video down. 208 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: She said that it showed them doing their work. 209 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: No, that's right. 210 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: But we've got an eleven percent attrition ray where we're 211 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 4: losing police at levels that we can't even replace. We've 212 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: got low levels of morale. Ninety nine percent of our 213 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: police don't believe the government support them, and it's because 214 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 4: people are sitting on pedestals like the Children's Commissioner don't 215 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: understand the hard work on the ground that's required. Now, 216 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: the question people should be asking is why are young 217 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: people committing crimes and. 218 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: What is the government doing to stop that. 219 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: That's the genuine question here, not blaming police for doing 220 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 4: their job, which is catching them. 221 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 2: Now, what do you make of the actions by the 222 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: tenant Creek meyh. 223 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, you know, people are very concerned by the footage, 224 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: but ultimately the police are now investigating the veracity of 225 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: that citizen's arrest. I think more broadly, what it really 226 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 4: signals is the deep frustration in the community. And we 227 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: don't want to see vigilanteism, but people feel totally abandoned 228 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 4: by the government who is not protecting their right to 229 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: be safe, not protecting their property. We've got calls into 230 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: the Triple Zero Center at volumes that police can't even 231 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: answer the calls. People are feeling desperate and scared, and 232 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 4: they want action, and the best way for the government 233 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 4: to make sure that children's rights are protected is for 234 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: them to get off the couch and start doing their job. 235 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: We are going to have to leave it. 236 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: Their opposition leader Leafanocchiro, thank you as always appreciate your time. 237 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: Thank you, take care,