1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. 6 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this week's episode of Fearlessly Failing. 7 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: I am pumped because today's guest is it's a little 8 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: bit of a hippie kind of spiritual guest. We have 9 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: the wonderful Annie O'Reilly aka t with Annie. 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: We actually met it Lego. 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: We were both working for the launch of the Australian 12 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: Lego ban Angle collection, which is all about mindfulness for 13 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: adults and it's about creativity, joy and fun. But at 14 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: the end of the first day and he's like, do 15 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: you want to have a tea leaf reading? And I 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: was like absolutely, and I was blown away by the reading. 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: So we actually do a live tea leaf reading in 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: This episode was only recorded about a week and a 19 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: half ago in SID so it's a real fresh episode 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: and I just want to say, from the bottom of 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: my heart, thank you Annie for sharing so much of 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: yourself with not. 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: Only me, but you guys the listeners. 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy this episode with Annie O'Reilly. Welcome 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: to the pod, Annie O'Reilly. We only met twenty four 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: hours ago, probably. 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: To the minute minute. 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: I think, Yes, okay, I am so excited to get 29 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: into there's really spiritual I want to say, side of you. 30 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: But I quickly want to talk about how we've met 31 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: and because we yeah, I have only met yesterday officially, 32 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: although we did have a little zoom moment a. 33 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: Week or two ago. We did. So we're both here 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: for Lego in c. 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: Isn't that great? 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: And your story. So two things I want to talk 37 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: about with Lego with you. 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: First of all, we're here for the botanical collection range 39 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: and your knowledge of the flat so we're making like 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: adult mindfulness Lego and so we all make different flowers 41 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: or a bondzite. 42 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: And your knowledge. 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: You're telling me all about the Californian poppy yesterday, daisies 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: and fertility yep, how do you know all this about plants? 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: I actually have most of my fluoromancy knowledge passed down 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: through my Irish maternal bloodline. 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: Oh yes see, I told you I'd want to go 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: straight into this. This is the really amazing like stuff 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: that I'm so excited about. Okay, let's do it. Let's 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: just dive in, ye, and we'll come back to the 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: Lego stuff, because you've got an incredible story about your 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: relationship to Lego as well. 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: So talk to me. 54 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: About the plants, the flora knowledge and where it's come from. 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: All right, cool. So when I was a little girl, 56 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: my mom kind of tried to dissuade me from my 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: family history because it's such an interesting and also kind 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: of difficult job. But I come from a line of 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: Tassio mancists and flora mancists and beautiful Irish herbalist witches 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: and you know, in the center of Ireland. So I 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: grew up in this world of beautiful spiritualism from a 62 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: different kind of folklory sense. 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Is speaking to all my dreams. If my boyfriend I 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: love watching kind of I want to say fantasy, but 65 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: like that kind of folk where there's a lot of 66 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: folk or on those pagan winnings where the hands are 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: bound together there and all that, and I'm like, oh, 68 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: this is amazing. It is like you're weird, Lola, But 69 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: I digress. I didn't know until I really researched you 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,559 Speaker 1: last night that it comes from Irish folklore. 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: Yep. 72 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: So a lot of the symbols and semiotics that I 73 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: have learned and that I've been practicing for the last 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: twenty years comes down that line and has beautiful roots 75 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: in Ireland and in Scotland within my family. 76 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: And are you is this eight generations? 77 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: It's eight generations that we know of, but we think 78 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: it goes back further. It's just eight generations that have 79 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: been passed down in stories. 80 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: Wow, dude, Oh you lucky bugger. So you didn't end 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: have a choice in the matter, did you. 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: Well, my mom wanted me to get a real job, 83 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: and I tried really hard. I promise, I went to UNI, 84 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: I got my degrees, and my heart just always came 85 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: back to my practice. 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: So when I met you yesterday, I was like, so, 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: how long have you been reading tea leaves for? And 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, twenty years. And I looked at you 89 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, hang on, she's definitely younger than me. 90 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, sorry, sorry, what and you go, yeah, 91 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: twenty years? Are you like ten or eleven or yep? 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: I started when I was eleven. 93 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: Wow. 94 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 3: My mom actually started when she was seven, but it 95 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: late apparently I'm not late blue, and my daughter she 96 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: started it too, so it's just something that's inherently in 97 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: our being. 98 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: I think, wow, sorry, if you can hear me, kind 99 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 1: of like stepping off of mic, that's because I'm sipping tea. 100 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: Annie will read later. 101 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: So get your earbuds ready, because I had this done 102 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: yesterday and literally I was like, whenever I'm going to 103 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: get definitely be working or doing something with you or 104 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what, but we're gonna. I'm pumped you, okay, 105 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: So pass it down through maternal bloodlines went so at 106 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: eleven years, I'm fascinated. So was it like learned or 107 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: was it intuitive like did your mum kind of or 108 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: your Yeah, it's. 109 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: A combination of both. So I secretly used to often 110 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: sit outside the kitchen door and listen in on my 111 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: mum's readings because she was always reading at our kitchen table, 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: and we'd come home from school starving and not be 113 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: allowed to go in the kitchen because there would always 114 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: be someone in there experiencing, you know, the art of 115 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: tassiomancy and learning about their next twelve months out of 116 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: a teacup. So I listened a lot and I read 117 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: all of the journals. And my mum published a book 118 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: when I was young too, which is like a dictionary 119 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: definition kind of system of how to read cups. Ah, 120 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: it's a really beautiful book and I'm currently in the 121 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: process of reworking that. 122 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh you've got a book you need for sure, dude, 123 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: for sure, Like, promise me you do that. 124 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: Yes, definitely. So we've got all of these beautiful definitions 125 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: that have been passed down in our family, and when 126 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: you see them over and over and over again, you 127 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: really develop a love of the symbols and the ability 128 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: to tell any kind of story based on the pictures 129 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: that appear in the tea cup, in the teacup. 130 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: So for a novice like me, so for someone listening, going, okay, 131 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: what does it involve? So at the moment, you have 132 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: brewed me a beautiful cup of your own tea. 133 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: So we're having talked me through the tea we're having today. 134 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: So today you're having an English breakfast with jazz and safflower. 135 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: It's delicious. And yesterday I had. 136 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: Yesterday you had Joye's blend. Yes, it's rhebus with hibiscus 137 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: roses and colandular. 138 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, skin love, and I love clandula for skin. 139 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: And we're having in your beautiful teacup and saucer the 140 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: solar plexus. 141 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: Yes, and there's one for each chakra. Yes. 142 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going to put all the show notes in here. 143 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: You can see my brain is getting so excited and 144 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm like jumping around. But just so you know, so 145 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: listeners know. So if someone comes to you for reading, 146 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: they'll drink tea with you and then you will read. 147 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: The tea leaves full? Is it usually for the next 148 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: twelve month? 149 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: In the next twelve months, I love to give everybody 150 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: a really specific forecast. So my goal is, you know, 151 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: time binding. I want to be able to show you 152 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: things that will actually appear in that twelve months. 153 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: And you've told me so many stories of people being 154 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: like I came to you a bit like negative nancy, 155 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: not need of it, but like I don't believe you 156 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: all the skeptics that's a word. And then they call 157 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: you up and they're like, so any. 158 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: Everything you said happen with any kind of like wow 159 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: stories where you were like yep, called that. Oh. 160 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: I have to write a book specifically about the stories 161 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: that people have told me. So I've seen amazing things 162 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: like emergency plane landings and beautiful lovers kind of emerging 163 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: out of oceans as triathletes, and people buying houses and 164 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: people overcoming the most incredible health stories. Literally anything is 165 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 3: possible in a teacup. 166 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: And you were telling me you so there were a 167 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: few fertility stories that you've totally pat some people. Those 168 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: women are like and we all had some readings together, 169 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: a few of us, and there were a few stories 170 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: that were coming up, and I was like, and it 171 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: was really interesting. Yesterday you were reading someone's tea leaves 172 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: and I was watching, and I was innately called to 173 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: help that person. So something how happen to teacup and 174 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: you were like, hey, just be you know, like look 175 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: after that part of yourself. And I was like, oh, 176 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: I've got to teach her the natural way that I 177 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, And and it was so interesting that I. 178 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: Like, it was a very you picked up on the vibe. 179 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, as you do. 180 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: You and I were both straight away like there were 181 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: so many more natural options my fred exactly. Okay, so 182 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: so pumped, I could go in so many different angles 183 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: for this. So I just want to talk a little 184 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: bit more about your heritage because you have this beautiful combination. 185 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: So it's half Irish and half Italian. Yes, because to me, 186 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: I'm dating an Italian and he's very Oh my god, 187 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: I dreamt about that person and then I saw them 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: and he trusts his intuition so much as does his mom, 189 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: and and so I feel like that Italian culture almost 190 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: like supports natural gifts. 191 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: It definitely does. So the best way to describe it, 192 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: my dad, who is not in my bloodline, learned from 193 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: my mum how to read cups and he is one 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,119 Speaker 3: one of the most spectacular cup readers just through observation 195 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: and practice. And also you know, he gets a bit 196 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: of spook from his Italian side too, right, because there 197 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: is a lot of the dreaming that comes through that family. 198 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: And whilst I do focus all of my energy into cups, 199 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 3: I do have really spooky dreams too that happen to 200 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: appear every soften. 201 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I've only hit the tip the 202 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg with you. Would you say that 203 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: it kind of comes under the realms of a little bit, 204 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: like I know when I saw you read yesterday, you 205 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: use your like it's almost like something's channeling through it. 206 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: Feels like that to watch. 207 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: But would you say there's like an element of psychic 208 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: to it or is it more specific to Tea leaves. 209 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: I refer to myself as a translator. 210 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: Oh I like that. 211 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: So I'm a translator of imagery. I understand the imagery. 212 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: Occasionally I get beautiful messages and voices and say things 213 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: that I don't understand where they've come from. My mouth 214 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: just opens and words come out it. But in a sense, 215 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: it is translation, and it's a lot of practice and study, 216 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: and so it's something that anybody can learn as well. 217 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: It just takes time and you teach people, right I do. 218 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: How cool? I'm jealous. 219 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: I don't live in Melbourne right now. I would have 220 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: one hundred percent booked in to learn this. I'm like 221 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: that girl that studied reiki crystal healing, and so yeah, 222 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: this really resonates me. And that's why, literally, guys, at 223 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: the end of our work gig yesterday, we were both 224 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: pretty exhausted, and I was like, do you want to 225 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: jump on the pod tomorrow morning before we have to 226 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: do a mega workday again? And You're like, yep, I'll 227 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: see you there. So I appreciate you sharing so much. 228 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: Of your heart and time here, I've got so many. Yeah, 229 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: my little brain is like buzzing right now. What happens 230 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: if something comes up in a teacup? That feels like 231 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: a warning sign. 232 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: So with a teacup, I'm always truthful. I don't leave 233 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: anything out. But I've learned over the last twenty years 234 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: how to communicate things in a really positive way. So 235 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: the idea is, when you're reading tea, you know, no 236 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: one dislikes tea, and even if you dislike tea, like, 237 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: for example, I really dislike tea. 238 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: It's revolting. 239 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: But there are other things you can drink that still 240 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: give you that happiness and that warmth. So I love 241 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: herbal blends. When you are drinking a cup of tea, 242 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: there is not a moment in that space where you 243 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: feel unwell or sick or sad or miserable or angry, 244 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: because it's such a positive experience. So with the physics 245 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: and the science involved, it's not really science, but I 246 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: like to think it is. You know, energetically, we're going 247 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: to get a really positive interpretation because we're dealing with 248 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: your subconscious on such a heightened and positive level. So yes, 249 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: sometimes occasionally we get negative symbols or warning symbols, but 250 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: there is always a positive way to communicate those symbols. 251 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: And because it's a tea cup, you know, you can 252 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 3: change things. It's not set in stone. So if your 253 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: cup says be careful, be careful, and you can adjust 254 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 3: how things unfold. 255 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: And even I think yesterday I had a little tombstone 256 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: in my reading and I kind of liked it because 257 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: the way you described it as a closure of something 258 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: like maybe the end of a contract or the end 259 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: of project or something like that. 260 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, And I call my boyfriend 261 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: last night. 262 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so in September, something's gonna be 263 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: fully wrapped up and done, just so you know, And 264 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: he's like awesome, And yeah, I just think it's so 265 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: nice to hear you described that, because as someone that 266 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: has now experienced this from you, I love I love 267 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: the way you read the leaves because I felt very 268 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: safe and nurtured and yeah. 269 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: Thank you. That's really lovely. 270 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: No, No, I just I really felt like that. Okay, 271 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: So I did some research last night. I was like, 272 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to go down the rabbit hole of Irish folklore. Yeah, 273 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: and kind of like where this all begun, and I 274 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is great. Is it true that 275 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: it is bad luck to get a tea bag? Cut 276 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: it open, pour it in? All right? 277 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: So with superstition and bad luck, okay, there are all 278 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: kinds of beliefs. And I was really lucky that RMI 279 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: t let me do a master's in tea leaf reading. 280 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: So I got to go and study all of the practices, 281 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: all of the superstitions, all of the folklore, and I 282 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: discovered through all of that that all of those superstitions 283 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: are only up to the person. So you know, there's 284 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: no right or wrong at all in what you are doing. 285 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: There are a few guidelines, and there are some beautiful 286 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: like symbol based systems, like you know, turning your cup 287 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: three times anti clockwise to form a circle, or but 288 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: if you're desperate, you can cut open a tea bag. 289 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: It's not going to be the end of the world. 290 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: It's just it's up to the reader, and it's up 291 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: to the person that's being read. It's about what makes 292 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: you comfortable. So when I practice, it is purely about 293 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: your comfort and the thing that makes you happy, because 294 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: that's going to give you the best reading totally. Also 295 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: a lot of that superstition when I was researching for instance, 296 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: you know, three times anti clockwise stems from the Gypsy 297 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: heritage of cupreading, and it was a way that Gypsies 298 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: could ensure that repeat business when they were practicing. So 299 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: you know, you'd occasionally kind of pretend to curse somebody 300 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: if they didn't follow your instructions. And a lot of 301 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: those superstitions come from trade and the practice of ensuring 302 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: your trade. And that's okay, it's just not something I 303 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,359 Speaker 3: would do. Yeah, it's meant to be fun. 304 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: Totally totally. When you were studying all over the world, 305 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: because you were saying you study in Turkey, I did. 306 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Was there anything where you were like, oh my god, 307 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: how am I he? Right now? Was there any like 308 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: pinch yourself moment? 309 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: I had the most amazing experience in Turkey with all 310 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: of these beautiful women that had all of these separate 311 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: lives and worked, you know, in religious spaces or ran 312 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: different restaurants, and they'd all come together in the morning 313 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: and read their coffee cups. And because cupreading it's not 314 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: just tea, it's coffee, it's red wine, it's hot chocolate, 315 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: is whatever you've got that leaves a mark and you 316 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: can read it and through you know the culture within 317 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: Turkey as well. It's so normal to read cups. Yeah, 318 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,359 Speaker 3: it's just everyday practice. 319 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I was based in La for a little 320 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: while and there's a. 321 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: I think it's either I think it's a Spanish candle 322 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: shop and you buy these law these really talk kind 323 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: of like altar candles in different colors with different like 324 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: spiritual people printed on the side. 325 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: You go, they tell you you go in and you're like. 326 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I was like, I'm going to a rough breakup 327 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: and then like, okay, take this burn it. 328 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: You cannot let it go out. Oh wow, it has 329 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: to burn for like eight days straight. 330 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Every time I go to your class, I'm like, I'm 331 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: going to burn down the airbnbag. 332 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to burn down the airbenbeit. And you take 333 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: that candle back in. 334 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Once it's burnt out, they read the bottom of the 335 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: wax and prescribe you a new candle or tell you 336 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: you're here like no need, that's done. And I was addicted, 337 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: Like they got so many. 338 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: Pieces out of me. 339 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: I was like I feel like I need one for 340 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: career and for love and so like there was but 341 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: it's this massive candle shop in like West Hollywood in 342 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: LA and it is be z with people, and it 343 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: feels like it's kind of that same it is. 344 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: It stems from geomancy so well. Tassio mancy is the 345 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: art of reading cups, but geomancy is the foundation of 346 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: a lot of these practices of the mansis, and geomancy 347 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: is the art of reading the earth and the sky 348 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: and you know the energy around you, the world around you. 349 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: So you take those practices, you put them in a teacup, 350 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: You've got tassiomancy. You take them and you put them 351 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 3: in cards, and you've got cartermancy. So really it's about 352 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: reading symbols. 353 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: Cool man, what a cool job you have. 354 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 3: I love reading things like fire because you can have 355 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: a beautiful fire and see symbols within that and that's pyromancy. 356 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: So really the skills related to tassiomancy or geomancy are 357 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: transferable amongst the different mediums. 358 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: I totally would feel that, Like I feel like if 359 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: I brought my candle to you, you'd be like, let's 360 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: have a geeze. 361 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: I'm also secretly obsessed with Harry Potter, so occasionally I 362 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: run Harry Potter functions and we read wax and your 363 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: candles you put them in the cauldron and you can 364 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: read the symbols that form in your cauldron as well. 365 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: My boyfriend, who's gonna be eniting this is the being 366 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: as Harry Potter fan. Like we live in Byron Bay now, 367 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: have just moved, and I walk really early in the 368 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: mornings at the lighthouse and I'll be like, Boss, I 369 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: call him Boss. I'm like, guess what I sawed on 370 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: is like anaghini because he's like because I'm like, I 371 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: want to see a snake, but I don't want it 372 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: to hurt me, so I'm like, I hope I get 373 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: to see a nighini from a distance. And we have 374 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: like Harry Potter lingo in our household and people literally 375 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: look at us like what are you saying? So, yeah, 376 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: we're Harry Potter. My boyfriend is the bigger nerd. But 377 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: I have absolutely joyfully jumped on board the Harry Potter train. 378 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: And I had a guy on the podcast, an actor 379 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: that was in a movie with his name the actors 380 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: called Joel Jackson, but he was movie with Daniel Radcliffe 381 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: and I was. 382 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, that's so cool. 383 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: What did you do when it was like, literally, they're 384 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: filming in South America, is like every now and then 385 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: I'd pick up a stick and be like, I think 386 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: I found my wand so like nerdburgers all around yeap, 387 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: which fuck other people? 388 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 2: Yes, totally. 389 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you another show that you 390 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: need to watch. I know it's totally off topic, but 391 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: as I was researching you, you would totally love the 392 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: show I was telling about. 393 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: Yees So the witch Are which is on Netflix. 394 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: It's on my list? 395 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: Is it good? Good? Good good? Just because it's very esoteric. 396 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: And I think, right up my alley. 397 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's very up your al it. Anyway, 398 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: and they're filming season two in London at the moment. Okay, 399 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: I'm just checking. I haven't missed anything here. Before we 400 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: touch on, I just want to hear the Lego stuff. Yeah, 401 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: because I found all this cool stuff about you because 402 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: I went down to Lego Masters at ten pm. 403 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: I was thinking I sent you a photo of been 404 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: like guess that I'm watching. 405 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: So you were on Lego Masters Australia season two and 406 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: you went in to compete with your friend Runa Runa and. 407 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: I had a look. 408 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: I've never watched Lego Masters before last night. I had 409 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: a look at the stuff you created. Holy moly, honestly, 410 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: thank you. 411 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: Incredible. 412 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: These flowers must feel like a pinch to you that 413 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: we're doing in our city list. 414 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: I still love the flowers. They're gorgeous. But yes, I've 415 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: been a massive Lego nerd since I was about fifteen. 416 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: So your Lego story, Okay. 417 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: When I was fifteen, I had a brain infection and 418 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 3: I suffered about twenty nine massive sieges that lasted ten 419 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: minutes at a time, and I'd lost a year and 420 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 3: a half of my memory. More more than that, more 421 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 3: like three years, and I bite my tongue off. They 422 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: told me that I wasn't going to live very long, 423 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: basically because they had no idea why I was sick 424 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: or why I was having these ten minute long sieges. 425 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: And so I couldn't finish high school. I couldn't really 426 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: function as a human being. It sucked. But one of 427 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: the things that the hospital kind of suggested was that 428 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: I play with Lego because I couldn't really read or 429 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: write anymore. I've lost those abilities. So Lego instructions were 430 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 3: the thing that got me back into cognitive function really, 431 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: and they gave me something to do from a hospital 432 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: bet because when you've had a seizure and you feel 433 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: like you've been hit by a truck, you can't move. 434 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: And I was having them every two weeks, which is 435 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: tough in year eleven, Yeah right, and you're figuring out 436 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 3: who you are. And so I missed all of that. 437 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 3: I don't remember any of them. So I had lego, 438 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 3: and so then naturally, my mother just kept buying me 439 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 3: lots of lego, and my whole bedroom was lined with 440 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 3: police stations and Harry Potter things and all of this 441 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 3: beautiful stuff. And I had this skill set and a 442 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: love of these beautiful colored bits of plastic. And then 443 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: when I was twenty one, I decided to leave home 444 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: and start a new life in Melbourne because I'm originally 445 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: from Perth. So I got on a plane and disappeared 446 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 3: from Perth. Started again to escape that label of the 447 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: sick girl, because in Perth everybody tiptoed around me because 448 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: they weren't sure if I was going to have a 449 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: seizure at any point. Because I never got an official diagnosis. 450 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: It was idiopathic epilepsy. We don't know why. So I 451 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: started again And when I landed in Melbourne, I landed 452 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: in Mooney Ponds. Yeah, right near me, beautiful'st little space 453 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: and there was a Lego shop there, really there was. 454 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: And so I scooted into the Lego Shop twenty one 455 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: on a scooter. 456 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: There. 457 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: It's not anything, isn't it? 458 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: Not one? 459 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: There's something on Union Road. Maybe it's more a gaming shore. 460 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: This one. This one was tucked away on Whole Street, okay, 461 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: And I scooed it in and I said to the owner, Hi, 462 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: I've just landed here. Can I please have a job 463 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: And she said, sure, of course you can in a 464 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: Lego shop, because that's where I wanted to work. So 465 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: I got this great little casual job in a Lego shop, 466 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 3: working with Lego education, teaching kids science and math and 467 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: robotics with Lego, and I did the rest of my 468 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: studies whilst I was working here. It was fabulous. And 469 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 3: then through that community, I got involved in the Lego community, 470 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: the adult fan of Lego community, otherwise known as a fols. 471 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: Some people call them a foles as well, but that 472 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: sounds inappropriate. So I became part of the Melbourne Lego 473 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: User Group and I got involved in the National Lego Convention, 474 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 3: which is enormous. We filled the Royal Exhibition Building with 475 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 3: Lego with three hundred builders, and twenty thousand people walk 476 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: through the door each January to see Lego models. And 477 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: I grabbed hold of the microphone and I became the 478 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: person that welcomed people in. And through that experience, I 479 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: developed such a love of free building and the things 480 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 3: you can mock, which stands for my own creation. 481 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: Also you're making it, yep. 482 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: So a creation that is not from instructions is called 483 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: a mock. 484 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: Got it. 485 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: And there's all this fabulous lingo involved in the world 486 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: of Lego. And then through that, Lego Masters became a thing. Yeah, 487 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: and season one came around and they asked me to 488 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: be on that one. I said no, thank you. And 489 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: when season two was there, it was just the right time. Yeah, 490 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: and I got to go on with Runa. And Runa 491 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: and I bonded at Prickvention, the Lego convention because she 492 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: won the event and she'd had a brain tumor, and 493 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: we bonded over the fact that we both had brain trauma. Yeah, 494 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 3: and we both liked Lego and she's a scientist and 495 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: I'm a psychic and we thought. 496 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: Great, your opposite energy, but it works. 497 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: Yep. 498 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: When I was watching and fangirling over you last night. 499 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: It was such an amazing experience and I would not 500 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: have done it with anybody else. She was the perfect 501 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: partner and our ideas worked. And you know, she had 502 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 3: a bit of spook that came in too. So that 503 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 3: first episode where we had to build a whole new world, 504 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: she looked at the island and went, oh, I feel 505 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: like it's a turtle, and the spiritualness came out of 506 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: her and turtles are so spirit and then we had 507 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: the whole symbology and the story running through that build 508 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: and it was fabulous. It was so much fun. 509 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: Ah. 510 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 3: And because we were the first knocked off, it was 511 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: not stressful. 512 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 513 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: We had a great time, a great experience. I made 514 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: amazing friends. Yeah, and then there was no stress. 515 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Oh, so thank you for sharing that, because I, yeah, 516 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: I felt like I was missing that piece of your puzzle. 517 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: Because yesterday we met and they were like, Annie is 518 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: lego expert. 519 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, whoa all right? 520 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? Why is she? 521 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: Like's not? Well? 522 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: It was just more like, okay, make the space mate, 523 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: And so it was so nice to kind of like, yeah, 524 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: and hear how Lego has almost had a medicinal role 525 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: in your journey as well. I've heard you in another 526 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: interview talk about Fairy Bricks. 527 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: Yes, so can you explain what that is. Fairy Bricks 528 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 3: is an international charity that supplies Lego to children in hospital. 529 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: That is their key goal. So when I wish Fairy 530 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: Bricks had been around when I was in hospital because 531 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: that's something that I would have benefited from, then I 532 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: naturally did. But now because it's such an official program 533 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 3: and it's supported by Lego internationally, and I've been fortunate 534 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: to be a part of one of the deliveries, which 535 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: is fabulous. It's something very close to my heart. 536 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: It sounds so cool, it sounds. 537 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: It just sounds like it's meant to be, Like yeah, 538 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: and I'm just pumped that as an adult I get 539 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: to enjoy Lego too. 540 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: Now Yeah, well now we can because they've worked out 541 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 3: that Lego's actually for grown ups totally. 542 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: But you can feel yesterday even like how mindful like 543 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: everyone I was like, do we get them to have food? 544 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: Now? 545 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: The guests, I'm like, but they're so in the zone. 546 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're still building yeah. 547 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: And my favorite thing you got us to do at 548 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: the very start was like mindfulness exercise around holding a 549 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: peace and then doing a little visualization. And it was 550 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: so funny hearing people's responses to some people's like I 551 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: built a brand, Like so you'd hold a little piece 552 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: of lego that probably part of one of the flowers, 553 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: and a lot of people you could see people have 554 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: more scientific brains versus creatives, and it was so interesting 555 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: and someone's like, oh, I just pretended there was another piece, 556 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: or I added somebody were pattern based and would see 557 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: more of the same pattern, and then old mate over here, 558 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this became a king with a crown. 559 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: And then I had this whole story going. 560 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: And then I enjoyed it so much that in the 561 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: second group, I just pretend like because I wasn't participating, 562 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: I was watching. I was like, oh, pretend you've got 563 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: the Californian poppy pedal and neck. Minute I could see 564 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: a lion eating an orie. 565 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: That's it. The visualization component. That's what makes you a 566 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: master build up, because if you can take a piece 567 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: and visualize like that, you can actually turn it into 568 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: a model. 569 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: Ah. 570 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: It was just so fun It was a really fun 571 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: way to practice mindfulness as someone that's got quite a 572 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: busy mind. 573 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 574 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: It allowed me to feel comfortable using that busy mind. 575 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: We can see how creative you are and eating an orange, 576 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 3: wearing a cape. 577 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: I've watched Doc to do a little on the plane down, 578 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: so I was like, am I really in the lion mode? 579 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: Because I've been wanting to Okay, I feel like it 580 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: might be time to have a little reading this. So 581 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: while this has been going on, and he made me 582 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: a tea and I've been sipping away on this tea 583 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: and it's delicious. By the way, it's the first time 584 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: I tried your English breakfast? Is that what it is 585 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: in breakfast? It is go for it, my friend. 586 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: So let's have a look. 587 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I've got the tees again. 588 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 3: You do this tells us, you know, sensitivity when we 589 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: have beautiful tears in. 590 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: A cup, So that means little drips, little drips. Yeah. 591 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: And my great granny used it as encouragement to drink 592 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 3: more tea because there was the belief that if your 593 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: cup is crying a little bit, it hasn't showed you 594 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: everything that it can, so you need to drink more 595 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: and get more pictures. 596 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that, But this. 597 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: Is really interesting because can you see the heart in 598 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: your cup? We have to take photos. Oh, the heart 599 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: is a right finn. Yeah, okay, So yesterday when we 600 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: were speaking, I was talking to you about the whale 601 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 3: and that house that was on the back of the whale, 602 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: and your migration and having this ability to travel around 603 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: the world and live in different places. One of the 604 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: things that didn't come up in your cup was the 605 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: family imagery. Yeah, that's in this cup. Okay, all right, okay, 606 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: so it's talking about families. When we look for imagery 607 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: and a cup. You know, we pretend that we're five 608 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: years old and we're looking at clouds and things don't 609 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: have to be perfect. They just need to give us 610 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: a sensation or you know, a guide as to what 611 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: we think it is. So here, what's the first thing 612 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: that pops into your head when you look at that picture? 613 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: It's the heart. 614 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: It's the heart. But can you also see an animal? 615 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: I feel okay, so I can see like a dragon 616 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: thing flying across the top. 617 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: And can you see a duck in yeah? Yes, yes, 618 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: so your heart is a duck. 619 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I see that. 620 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: You can see that? Really clearly a little duckling. So 621 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 3: heart syncops. When we're partnered, they tell us that our 622 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: love is in a really good place when they're solid 623 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: and gorgeous like this, And when we're single, they can 624 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: tell us that love is coming to us. But we 625 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: know you're in a lovely relationship with the boss man. 626 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. 627 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: When we turn its side on and we see the duckling. 628 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: Ducklings traditionally are a symbol of new life. I and 629 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: ducklings tend to represent baby boys entering our circle. Awesir, Okay, 630 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: so here within your heart we have the potential for 631 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: a baby boy. So should you wish to pursue that? 632 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: Because I believe that all of these imageries that they're 633 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: a choice, right, yeah, this imagery is a choice. But 634 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: you've got that symbol. They're waiting for you. Yeah right now. 635 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: Time wise, it's an overriding image. It is not time bound. 636 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: But the guide is kind of sitting around that six 637 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: month point. 638 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I noticed that. 639 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: So we know that there's the moving stuff. We know 640 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: the career stuff was in your cup yesterday, the family 641 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: and the love stuff is here now. And then at 642 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: the top we've got your rabbit. Ah, yeah, and your 643 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: rabbit is about doing it like rabbits. 644 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I love this. My boyfriends to be like, 645 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: oh my god, lolla. 646 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: You told me yesterday it was all about like having 647 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: properties in different parts of the world. 648 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 3: Well it's that too. Yeah, this is just the next stage. 649 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: So you know, it's beautiful. And then from you know, 650 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: going back to the career stuff. Can you see this 651 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: amazing frog that's leaping into your cup, like it's literally 652 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: jumping into the air. Its legs are extended. You know, 653 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: it's flying into your cup at this three month point. 654 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: Because when we're reading cups, we can get a twelve 655 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: month picture based on the position of the handle, so 656 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: we're able to tell time like a clock. And here 657 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: at your three month point, your frog is leaping and 658 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 3: frogs symbolically are very much a metamorphosis image. But then 659 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: we've also got the element of leap, yeah, because this 660 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: frog is jumping head first into its next project. So 661 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: at three months we've got, yes, that dramatic metamorphosis, but 662 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: the also you know, also that element of jumping in cool, yes, 663 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: and you've got lots of gorgeous dogs through your cup, 664 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: all with extended necks. 665 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yes, we're getting in it. We want to 666 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: get in tell me in greyhound, which is a very 667 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: long neck. 668 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: So can you see this little dog here with a 669 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: really long neck. 670 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, this makes me very happy. 671 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: So dogs represent, yes, literal dogs, and they also represent 672 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: beautiful friendships. So yes, there's this lovely kind of dog 673 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: in here with a very long neck sitting around you. 674 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: Four to five month point perfect right. And the other 675 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: thing that we can we can say about friendships is 676 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: that you've got friends either putting their neck out for 677 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: you right, willing to put you forward because they're putting 678 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: their necks out, but also sometimes being a little bit 679 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: inquisitive and asking for extra information because they're curious and 680 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: they're looking around. But friends are extremely loyal when they 681 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: appear as dogs in our cups, so we know that 682 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: they're long standing relationships. 683 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: Ah, it's so interesting that it's come up today because 684 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: I was talking to one of my besties last night. 685 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: And your heart's really solid. The other thing that your 686 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: heart kind of looks like, which I don't think is 687 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: for you. I'd say it's more for your partner is 688 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: a tooth. So teeth when they appear in cups, they 689 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: can represent income. Oh yeah, because teeth, the concept of 690 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: teeth falling out in a dream is about money coming 691 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: to you, so it's a very old image two hundred 692 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: years ago. Definition can be about money coming in. And 693 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: the other thing teeth can be about is literally going 694 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: to the dentist, so it might be a dental trip 695 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: in six months. 696 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 697 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: Cool, but yeah it looks like a backtooth. 698 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, it all makes sense. 699 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: And then in here you've got this lovely little picture 700 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: of a person doing that kind of achievement fist in 701 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: the air. Yeah, but come on sign. Yeah, so that's 702 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: a nice win at your nine month point. 703 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: Great, what is this little guy here? There's like one 704 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: little loan set. 705 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: This is really interesting because sometimes we're drawn to elements 706 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: of a cup and we're not quite sure what they are. 707 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 3: So that can mean that the picture is coming, but 708 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: it hasn't quite fully formed yet. Your subconscious is working 709 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 3: on something, because not everything has to mean something at 710 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 3: the time. Yeah, but you know that's there's a project 711 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 3: or a concept that's a formulating at e twelve month point, 712 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 3: it's just not fully formed yet. 713 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 714 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 3: And a lot of people struggle with a cup because 715 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 3: it's really hard, especially hard to read for yourself. 716 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: In the world, I'd be like, oh, I can see 717 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: a Laine Like I'd just be putting in all. 718 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 3: My Yeah, and it is the hard even reading for myself. 719 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 3: I find that the most challenging. I can read for anybody, 720 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: but myself. I struggle. 721 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: I asked you that yourself, like who reads for you? 722 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: And you're like, well, I do occasionally. 723 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 3: It's just tricky, but it does take a lot of 724 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: practice and eventually the key pictures will jump out at you. 725 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: It's like reading those blot images. 726 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the blot pictures. 727 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: That's a great way to start practicing. 728 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: Ah, this is so cool. You are the best. 729 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: And people listening and he's literally sitting here and just 730 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: kind of like gazing as if imagining into a crystal ball. 731 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: And it is the left over of my tea that 732 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: I've drunk. There's these beautiful tea leaves or and it's 733 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: completely different to my tea. 734 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: Leaves yesterday that were kind of a bit more. 735 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: Scattered in the sediment that the cup forms is the 736 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: thing that you read. Yeah, So it doesn't matter what 737 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: it's made of. It could be ground coffee, it could 738 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 3: be yeah, whatever, kind of residue you have from the 739 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 3: beverage that you're drinking. You just need to make sure 740 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 3: there's some kind of residue because otherwise you can't read it. 741 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 3: But tea leaves are one of the most gentle divination 742 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: art forms internationally. Like, who doesn't love a cup of tea? 743 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: Dude? 744 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: I love this so much. Oh, you've totally made my day. 745 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: I'm excited about your duckling. 746 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: Oh my yes, I was like, no fertility like a 747 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: white player. I don't worry. No fertility stuff came. 748 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 3: Up, mate, So with fertility pictures too. This is a 749 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: really good point to share with people because when you 750 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: get a teacup, sometimes there'll be things in there that 751 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: you're not necessarily ready for or you don't want, because 752 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 3: a cup is just a guide. So if there's something 753 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 3: like that, yep, we can take it as a nice nod. 754 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 3: But then we can put it in a back pocket 755 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 3: and you know, leave it for another twelve months. If 756 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: your cup, for example, said you're accidentally gonna fall pregnant, 757 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 3: you can take precautions. 758 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 759 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: It's not said instant. 760 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: I said that yesterday. 761 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 3: It is possible to defer imagery and imagery will keep 762 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 3: repeating until it happens. So you can push an image 763 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 3: further away, you can bring it closer to you. Everything 764 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 3: is a choice, and I love that about a teacup 765 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 3: because you are in control of your subconscious It's not 766 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: the other way around. 767 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love it. 768 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: But I this does bring some comfort to me because 769 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: people will know lising the podcast, I've always wanted to 770 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: be mum, but later in life, and so this brings 771 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: me a little bit of like comfort as well. 772 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 3: A little duckling a little when you're ready for it. 773 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: It's bad ducklings growing up. 774 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: I love ducklings. 775 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: Oh they're so cute. 776 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: They get big, though, mate, they get so big, and 777 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: we named. 778 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 2: Ours peaking on the range. Don't worry, we didn't. 779 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 3: Oh that's adorable, ye. 780 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: But they got really aggressive towards me then, like every 781 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: time we'll go outside, they. 782 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: Just peck at my ankles. 783 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: Really but they were so cute as babies, and eventually 784 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: Mom's like, we have to give these guys away. 785 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 2: This is so aggressive towards you. 786 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, yeah they were massive, dude, 787 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm talking huge big ducks. 788 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but as ducklings, cute another thing that baby ducks 789 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: can symbolize if we're absolutely certain that it's not about babies, 790 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 3: because not everything is about babies. Yeah, they can symbolize 791 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: the birth of ideas. Yeah, the birth of business concepts. Yeah, 792 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 3: so we can use that in our you know, in 793 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 3: our favorite as well. 794 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: No, it's nice, it's really nice. It's and it's really 795 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: nice for anybody listening. Like, I have a lot of worry, 796 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: and I know I come across as very confident, but 797 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: I get a lot of I'm quite an overthinker about 798 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: my future and I worry a lot. 799 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 2: And that's why you say, with the career stuff and 800 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: a lot of. 801 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: The traveling, you're like, you're fine, calm down and so 802 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: and this is kind of like I know this will 803 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: happen after a lot of the travel, and so that 804 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: kind of it all feels right. 805 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 3: It's probably why it's the second cup that you've had, 806 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 3: because it's giving us a bit further into the future. Yeah, 807 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: we've had the career cup. We're onto the next one. 808 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. So cool. 809 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: And just to talk quickly about the career cup I 810 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: got yesterday. It was you're like, oh my god, You're like, 811 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: there's a whale with a house. 812 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 2: You're migrating, and I was like, how does she know this? 813 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: How does she know this? 814 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like and we were talking about buying, and 815 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I'm buying in 816 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: Buyra and I don't know if I'm buying overseas. 817 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: You're like, probably both, yep. 818 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely both. Yep. 819 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 2: It was It was just really it. 820 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: And that's why I really was so excited to get 821 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: you on the podcast, because it was so reassuring to 822 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: this overthink. It would just be like, go with a 823 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: flow a bit more, Lola, stop freaking out and just 824 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: enjoy the journey. 825 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: That is like I wouldn't have. 826 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: Thought two months ago, with all the COVID stuff that 827 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: you and I'd be sitting here in a hotel room 828 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: doing this podcast in real life. 829 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 3: No. And yet my teacup was full of aeroplanes. 830 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: You said that because it's so very per a bit. 831 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've been to Perth in the last couple of 832 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: months as well and avoided everything, avoided lockdowns, but my 833 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 3: teacup showed me that that was there. My teacup has 834 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: showed me some amazing things over my life, Lola. It 835 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 3: showed me my husband. It showed me both my children. 836 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: It showed me the house that we bought, right because 837 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 3: we had two auctions in two hours on one day, 838 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 3: and my cup said it was all going to work, 839 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 3: and it did really yep. And it showed me the 840 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: tumor that I had when I was twenty two. 841 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: You had a tumor. 842 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 3: I had a tumor at twenty two in my right 843 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 3: ovary and my cup showed me that, and it kept 844 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: reappearing and reappearing. Because sometimes cups give us health warnings, 845 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 3: but we have to remember not a diagnostician, right, you 846 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 3: go and get professional assistance. But my cup showed me 847 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 3: these pictures over and over and over again, and I 848 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 3: ignored them. So I thought, that's not me, you know, 849 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: why is it there? And then by accident, you know, 850 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 3: I hurt myself, had an X ray and they found 851 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 3: a tumor and then I was on a plane and 852 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 3: in a specialist room. And as soon as I had 853 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 3: that tumor removed, the picture went away. Yep, because the 854 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: image was dealt with. My subconscious had showed me what 855 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 3: it needed to. And then the next series of pictures appeared, 856 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 3: so so cool. 857 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: At the end of a teak up ready. You often 858 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: say to people, do you have any questions? 859 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 2: To us? What's the most common question? Is it love? 860 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 3: Well, actually, the most common thing people say is no, sorry, 861 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 3: I don't have any questions. Thank you for answering them 862 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 3: all right totally, which is really nice. 863 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 2: Even when you offered it to us, I was like. 864 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, quick, I have a habit of answering the 865 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 3: questions before they've been asked. But yes, sometimes they are 866 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 3: more often than not love related, because people often come 867 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 3: for questions of the heart or for questions of whether 868 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 3: they're living or what they're aiming to achieve. But more 869 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 3: often than not, those images will already be there and 870 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 3: we've already talked about them. So that's my that's most 871 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 3: satisfying element. I think I'm reading a. 872 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: Cup and I think also getting that call like a 873 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: year later, okay everything you said, Okay, let's start again. 874 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: So for people listening that are like, oh my goodness, 875 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: I need any in my life, you do do zoom 876 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: consults and Zoom tea readings. I'll put all of any 877 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: details in the show notes. She's got a website you 878 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: can book through insta page which is half Lego half tea. Yeah, 879 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: it's a bit sure, it's a bit of both worlds. 880 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: And I can't wait. I'm already like why I'm in Melbourne. 881 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: I wanted how long are the courses when you teach them? 882 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 3: So I teach a for weight course, Yeah, generally, which 883 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 3: gives you all of the basics and all of the 884 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 3: stuff that my great granny passed down. And I also 885 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: do an extended course which takes about twelve weeks. And 886 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 3: I've had some spectacular students over the years who now 887 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 3: work with me and have their own practices as well. 888 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 2: You said that because you said that tea leave readers 889 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 2: are quite rare. 890 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 3: Yes, So it's one of the lost art forms, which 891 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 3: is why I was inspired to do my masters, because 892 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 3: you know, coffee reading, there's a lot of that, but 893 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: tea has been lost because it was such common practice. 894 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 3: It was a British parlor game you played with your 895 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: friends while you were drinking tea. It was in Tetley's 896 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 3: manuals and in advertising two hundred years ago. So it 897 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: got lost because it died along with the beautiful women 898 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 3: that practiced. And so I wanted it to come back. 899 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: Oh well mate, let's get this. Let's get this message out. 900 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 3: Let's make it come back. 901 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: I really wanted to do course, I really want to 902 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: please do Yeah, I really like I'm so and thank 903 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: you for the beautiful cup and sauce you've gifted me 904 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: as well. You'll see photos of it all over my Instagram. 905 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: But thank you so so much. Are total honored. I 906 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: have you on the podcast today and I can't wait 907 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 1: till our paths cross again. 908 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure they will me too. Thank you, Lolla, thank you. 909 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 910 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 911 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: on Instagram. 912 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 2: I'm at Yamo, lollaberry. 913 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: This potty my word for podcast is available on all 914 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe, rate 915 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: and comment and of course spread the love