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Speaker 1: Minister for Small Business. In fact, Paul Kirby, good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Kurbs.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, Good morning everyone.

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Speaker 1: Now, Minister, I will get to some of the good

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Speaker 1: things happening in just a couple of moments, but I

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Speaker 1: do want to ask you. I know that plenty of

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Speaker 1: us feeling really pretty sorry and pretty bad for zacholie

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Speaker 1: IgA this morning in wake of that terrible break in overnight.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen those photos? Have you had a chat

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Speaker 1: to those business owners at this point?

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Speaker 2: Personally, I haven't been able to chat with them yet,

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Speaker 2: but we have had people from our team certainly in

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Speaker 2: touch with them straight away, and we'll have people out

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Speaker 2: sure that they can help as much as they can

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Speaker 2: with a cleanup, make sure that they can get any

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Speaker 2: sort of big, secure arrangements in place to stop this

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Speaker 2: from happening again. You're right, is absolutely heart wrenching when

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Speaker 2: this happens. We know that people put their heart and

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Speaker 2: soul into these small businesses and it's just got wrenched

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Speaker 2: when things like this happen.

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Speaker 1: You must feel pretty upset as well as the Minister

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Speaker 1: for small business. I mean even this morning, you're out

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Speaker 1: this kind of thing happens, it dominates the headlines, and

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Speaker 1: rightly so you know people are upset with this kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly it does. It pulls deep at people's heart

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Speaker 2: strings because like the Ida people that run in Larichia,

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Speaker 2: they're well known. The same with Zicoli. They're part of

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Speaker 2: the community, they're part of our family, and to see

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Speaker 2: people just senselessly targeting like this just breaks everybody's hearts.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, you know there is some good news stories,

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Speaker 2: some good things happening around town. We just need to

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Speaker 2: so they can get back up and running and make

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Speaker 2: the best of the dry season that they possibly can.

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Speaker 1: Paul Kirby, do you think that the government that you're

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Speaker 1: part of that team, that enough is being done in

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Speaker 2: I think you've seen as recently as yesterday that we'll

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Speaker 2: do everything that we can. But whether it's alcohol related violence,

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Speaker 2: whether it's use violence, whether it's senseless break ins, that

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Speaker 2: we've done everything that we can and we'll continue to

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Speaker 2: do what. You don't stop working on things like this.

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Speaker 2: You don't put the queue back in the rack and

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Speaker 2: say that's it, we don't have to do anymore. There's

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Speaker 2: constantly more challenges. There will always be more challenges, and

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Speaker 2: we'll continue, you know, whether it's through be Secure and

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Speaker 2: other arrangements, to get these businesses back up and running

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Speaker 2: as soon as we possibly can and make sure that

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Speaker 1: How quickly do you think that we are actually going

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Speaker 1: to see a positive impact from the changes that were

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Speaker 1: pasted in parliament yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Well, I know those laws are passed on urgency for

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Speaker 2: a particular reason, because we have heard that there's a

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Speaker 2: very small cohort of repeat offenders that we want to

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Speaker 2: try and make sure our first option is trying to

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Speaker 2: get the help to people, to try and make sure

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Speaker 2: that those diversion programs that we've concentrated on are the

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Speaker 2: first priority for people. We don't want to see people

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Speaker 2: people are repeat offending and they've got now the capacity

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Speaker 2: the community so much.

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Speaker 1: Lots of people a bit concerned about that. Well, what

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Speaker 1: was perceived as a watering down yesterday with that legislation.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about, you know the fact that the

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Speaker 1: lawyers are going to be able to argue exceptional circumstance,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would you say to those listening this

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Speaker 2: Well, probably a good explanation helps me understand exactly where

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Speaker 2: near hard enough. We've got lobby groups saying you've gone

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Speaker 2: far too far. This is against the principles of some

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Speaker 2: that we've probably landed somewhere sensibly in the middle. During

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Speaker 2: There is no silver bullet for this, and some of

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Speaker 1: Look, I really hope that it does make a difference,

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Speaker 1: and I know that that anyone who's been a victim

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Speaker 3: Minister.

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Speaker 1: Let's move along, because there's lots happening this morning, and

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Speaker 1: I know that you have been out this morning announcing

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Speaker 1: the online portal. Well, there is currently an online portal

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Speaker 1: essentially where people are able to put in their applications

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Speaker 1: for their business, and that online portal is now expanding

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Speaker 1: to include liquor license applications as well. Tell us exactly

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Speaker 2: It has been This is a can do portal that

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Speaker 2: we instigated that opened back in February, and a big

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Speaker 2: and running really quickly. It does mean that people's whether

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Speaker 2: A licensed applications. They can do them online now. So

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Speaker 2: it's been open since February. We've had nearly five hundred

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Speaker 2: part of what's happening now is we've opened it up

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Speaker 2: to some of our major and events that are happening,

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Speaker 2: our major and smaller events that are happening, those one

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Speaker 2: they're mainly volunteers that do all of that work, they

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Speaker 2: for these major events, So we're really sure that this

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Speaker 2: It will save a lot of these organizations so much time.

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Speaker 2: And it's probably about seventy five percent of the applications

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Speaker 2: that's really good announcement for these special events and these

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it sounds like a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I have been told that the process can be very

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly we haven't removed any of those support mechanisms. Right.

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Speaker 2: If people have done it for a number of years,

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Speaker 2: absolutely still all of that support in place. But what

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Speaker 2: get their renewals done. They don't have to take a

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Speaker 2: They don't have to run back to licensing. They don't

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Speaker 2: done very quickly and very easily. The people that have

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Speaker 1: Well. That is good to hear. Another good thing that

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Speaker 1: we've heard this morning, and we did briefly catch up

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Speaker 1: be able to have those takeaway cocktails again down there

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Speaker 1: on the lawns at the waterfront. He was complementary of

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Speaker 1: them to get that reinstated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously it's been a great addition to the waterfront,

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Speaker 2: particularly last dry season. It was so nice to be

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Speaker 2: drinks down there. We knew that under those emergency powers

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Speaker 2: the Catering Authority, we've been able to find a sensible

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Speaker 2: our focus now on removing red tape of government being

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Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully from this weekend there'll be the capacity

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Speaker 3: He did mention that. Yeah, he did mention that.

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Speaker 1: And now, Paul Kirby, I know you are pressed for

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Speaker 3: We'll meet to do a pre record with you earlier today.

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Speaker 1: That didn't happen because we were having some technical issues,

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Speaker 1: good budget for the territory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, you know, we would always encourage more and

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Speaker 2: more and more. We've been working closely with the federal government,

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Speaker 2: federal minister. I guess an example of that is just

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Speaker 2: really happy to see the extra incentives and extra financing

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Speaker 4: Footage that everybody saw was really daunting for people to see,

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Speaker 4: and I guess all of us that have got kids

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Speaker 2: Any of those changes and any of those assistance that's

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Speaker 2: been offered. But certainly from the training perspective, you know,

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Speaker 2: we've got near record numbers of apprentices in the Northern

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Speaker 2: the people at Bridge Toyota, they've got more apprentices on

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Speaker 2: now than they ever have before. They admitted that this

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Speaker 2: government support that they've had over the past six or

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Speaker 2: twelve months has really really helped them and it helps

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Speaker 2: them make the decisions to keep employing young territorium. So

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Speaker 2: we certainly want to keep pushing in that direction and

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Speaker 2: pushing to get as many young kids into work as

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Speaker 2: we possibly can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, one of the things that I think has been

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Speaker 1: a good thing throughout COVID is the way that territory

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Speaker 1: government and also the federal government have worked together despite

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Speaker 1: those political differences. They've tried their best to work together

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Speaker 1: for the benefit of territori ands. I hope that that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you did right. I think the capacity

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Speaker 2: for them to have those shorter and sharper meetings online,

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Speaker 2: for the Chief Minister to be able to explain to

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister exactly the challenges that we're up against

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Speaker 2: up here and how we're trying to very prudently work

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Speaker 2: our way through that. The Prime Ministers acknowledging that and

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Speaker 2: is acknowledging that we do need support and help. And

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Speaker 2: as with all of the grants and systems that we

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Speaker 2: put in place to try and support businesses, we tail

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Speaker 2: it in and around what the Federal government was putting in.

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Speaker 2: So happy to keep working as hard as we can

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Speaker 2: make things better for all territories up and down the track.

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Speaker 1: Kading Well, Paul Kirby, Minister for Small Business. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: chat with us.

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Speaker 3: That's all right, thank you.

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Speaker 2: We've talked to you that it needs to be in

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Speaker 2: there sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. That is the Minister for Small

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Speaker 3: Business there, Paul Kirby