WEBVTT - Matt Short on his World Cup axing, Jake Lehmann's county challenge

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Goodday, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another episode of The Unplaybook Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a.

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<v Speaker 1>Massive episode coming up for you today with interviews with

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Short and Jake Lehman to come up on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But first let's introduce Kane Richardson, who's back here again.

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<v Speaker 2>There's every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Oh, I know it's been a big week for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's some news around Punch the Monkey that I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's really stirred up to your feelings on the

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<v Speaker 1>during the week.

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<v Speaker 3>You've completely lost me already five seconds into this you

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<v Speaker 3>said it's been a big week for me, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>what's happened. I've been sitting on a burro at home

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<v Speaker 3>for the whole week, So not a big week for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Not across the Punch the Monkey news.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, let's move on very quickly into this week's

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<v Speaker 1>weekly winner. Rich sho you want me to start this

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<v Speaker 1>week because you always seem to it off, which you should,

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<v Speaker 1>But this week I'm going to go for the obvious one,

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<v Speaker 1>Alyssa Healy obviously the retiring grade final. Odi just punches

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<v Speaker 1>out one hundred and fifty eight of ninety eight deliveries,

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<v Speaker 1>her highest score in Australia, second highest audio score and

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<v Speaker 1>I think from a one hundred to fifty and sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>balls or something ludicrous. So what a way to sign out?

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<v Speaker 1>And she decided to have a trendle as well.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought you were going to point to first.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that would be especially the topic of today's

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<v Speaker 3>Big four. I don't want to give too much away, but.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I give it away.

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<v Speaker 3>We have now, haven't we.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>The topic of today's span is part time bowl is

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<v Speaker 1>the best that we've seen?

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<v Speaker 3>So and I assume that came into your mind because

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<v Speaker 3>of a listen here, right, yeah, right, yeah. I did

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<v Speaker 3>find it funny that she did give herself the ball

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<v Speaker 3>and one above.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some rusty coling in there. We'll get to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but not just one over. Yeah, she went for a

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<v Speaker 1>second so.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the wicket didn't Absolutely I reckon she would

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<v Speaker 3>have preferred a wicket over the one hundred and fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>but again one hundred fifty out of ninety eight four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and nine wrapped up. What a way to go out,

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<v Speaker 3>as she said, So she's still got the Test match

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<v Speaker 3>to come, but just cementing again her legacy for generations

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<v Speaker 3>to come as one of the greats of women's cricket

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<v Speaker 3>in this country. So she was one of my weekly winners.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the batting, or for the bowling, or for

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<v Speaker 2>the all around.

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<v Speaker 3>It, for everything. Also for staky again in the com

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<v Speaker 3>box looking dapper as some great footage when she brought

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<v Speaker 3>up one hundred. You didn't really know how to just

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<v Speaker 3>played it cool. So because he knew the camera was

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<v Speaker 3>on it exactly. He's our man, So we love love

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<v Speaker 3>their work. I went to Andrew Sampson as my backup

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<v Speaker 3>plan just in case, because you're talking Beginnings needed to

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<v Speaker 3>win to get into a semi final. We know the

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<v Speaker 3>pressure that the Indian team were under ninety seven or

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<v Speaker 3>fifty chasing a decent score against the Western East to

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<v Speaker 3>basically send them home and India to progress. And there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of people happy after that. I reckon

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<v Speaker 3>the breathing a sigh of leaf because it looked like

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<v Speaker 3>not that they are out of it the halfway point,

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<v Speaker 3>but you need a lot to go right chasing that score,

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<v Speaker 3>and they did start slow. So basically one one man

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<v Speaker 3>bandit to win. So ninety seven not out of fifty balls,

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<v Speaker 3>get them to win. They're in the semi final. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the broadcasters are happy, BCCI a happy, well, crickets happy.

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<v Speaker 3>So a couple of big semi finals coming up in

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<v Speaker 3>the space you can smell trophies now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of yeah, yeah, you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the One Day Cup coming up, probably not as

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<v Speaker 3>high on people's agenda as the T twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>But for us it is definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's getting to that time of the year where

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<v Speaker 3>it's time to start winning some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll touch on the T twenty World Cup very shortly,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you get to the final four, is it

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely anyone's game or are there still guys and teams

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<v Speaker 1>who are in favoritism here or is it even playing

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<v Speaker 1>field now?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's definitely, there's definitely seeds still and being a

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<v Speaker 3>home country and everyone's pre tournament favorite India. So but again,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said last week, England have done nothing wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>They've just slowly just gone about their work under the radar.

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<v Speaker 3>So Africa have been probably one beat to India's one

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<v Speaker 3>a and then New Zealand just once again like no

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<v Speaker 3>one's We hadn't spoken about him, No one had spoken

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<v Speaker 3>about him. Oh look at that New Zealand final of

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<v Speaker 3>the World Cup again. So I mean it's all going

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<v Speaker 3>to come down to the toss of the coin in

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<v Speaker 3>my view, that's going to be such a heavy part

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<v Speaker 3>of it. But still the best team can win batting

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<v Speaker 3>first if they put a complete game together. So for

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<v Speaker 3>very worthy teams.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Yeah, we'll get to a more in depth

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<v Speaker 1>preview of those semifinals very shortly, but after a quick

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<v Speaker 1>word from our Sponsorible here from Matt Short, who was

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia's two twenty World Cup squad before the tournament began.

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<v Speaker 1>He was then left out of the finalize squad that

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<v Speaker 1>they announced, and he gives us a bit of an

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<v Speaker 1>insight into how that all played out and what's next

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Pleasure to be joined now by Matt Short,

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<v Speaker 1>who's just slotted back in seamlessly to that Victorian side.

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<v Speaker 1>They're absolutely flying at the minute. Welcome to the Unplayable podcast. Shorty,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks mate, thanks having me, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Worries at all. Yeah, let's talk about the Vics.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they've walked in that home final, already in the

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<v Speaker 1>Sheffield Shield, they're going really well. What's the vibe around

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<v Speaker 1>the group at the minute.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been been really good.

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<v Speaker 4>I suppose it's been the vibe sort of every time

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<v Speaker 4>I get back to play with them, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been really good. They've obviously had a really good year.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of guys are standing up, which is good,

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<v Speaker 4>not relying on just a couple of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, it's just awesome to see the depth of

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<v Speaker 2>the VIC cricket standing up.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, as I said, even the new guys that

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<v Speaker 4>are coming in, yeah, making an impact and helping win

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<v Speaker 4>win games for the Vics.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's awesome to see the boys lpping about.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the moves that we've seen made this year

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<v Speaker 1>has been Sam Harper up to open, especially in the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks, and they've got those twin tons

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<v Speaker 1>in Perth. Was the prize to you, because I mean

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of us looking on that was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a surprise to see him move up to

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<v Speaker 1>the top, but seems like it suits him perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I sort of look at it and no one really

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<v Speaker 4>knew what the batting order is going to be over

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<v Speaker 4>in Perth. But yeah, he's sort of a weird one

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<v Speaker 4>because he's he's obviously opened a lot in white ball

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<v Speaker 4>cricket and just sort of tends to get moved around

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<v Speaker 4>the order a bit in in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Red Bull stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it was a bit of a strange one,

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<v Speaker 4>but it obviously paid off and Bucky, Bucky the coach,

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<v Speaker 4>he's obviously pretty happy with the decision and the mastermind

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<v Speaker 4>behind it all. But nah, obviously Harps is in some

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<v Speaker 4>incredible form. Just got that confidence now that I think

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<v Speaker 4>he's found a tempo that suits him really well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been been awesome to see. He deserves every bit

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<v Speaker 4>of his A very hard worker and yeah, just awesome

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<v Speaker 4>to see him doing well at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And from a bowling point of view, I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>wickets everywhere you look. Scott bowl On, Sam Elliott, Mitch Perry,

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<v Speaker 1>Fergus O'Neill, and then you throw in Todd Murphy as

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<v Speaker 1>well for some spin options. There's just so many options

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<v Speaker 1>with the ball as well at the minute.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you missed will Sudland in there as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna gonna be tight come come, the last game

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<v Speaker 4>of the year. But yeah, I said, everyone's standing up,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's sort of scoring runs and taking wickets, so I

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<v Speaker 4>guess you know, they all say it's a good problem

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<v Speaker 4>to have with the depth and whatnot. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty special, you know, the other week in Perth,

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<v Speaker 4>just watching the guys go about it and sort of

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<v Speaker 4>just standing in the hammock at first slip and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was awesome to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Now as we've touched on, you guys have locked in

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<v Speaker 1>that home final, which means the Sheffied Shield is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Come.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's March twenty sixth. Have you won a

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<v Speaker 1>Sheffield Shield yourself? I know you've been in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of losses to w A, but have you won one yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>One one one against New South Wales. I was about

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen eighteen, so yeah, and then as you said, lost

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<v Speaker 4>a couple against WA so it's nicely that win against

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<v Speaker 4>them over there. You don't often win a good first

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I was luck enough to play in that

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<v Speaker 4>one against New South at the Junction was a good

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<v Speaker 4>few days.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've seen your coach, Bucky Rogers even come out

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<v Speaker 1>and push your test credentials. If you finish this shield block, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he reckons that you're definitely in the mix for a

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<v Speaker 1>test looking as well. How do you sort of respond

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<v Speaker 1>to something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's always a hard one, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>probably been been tough for the last sort of two

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<v Speaker 4>or three years just with the amount of white ball

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<v Speaker 4>going on. And you know, I've we comes to a

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<v Speaker 4>point now where, you know, especially sort of finding myself

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<v Speaker 4>out of the white ball team at this stage, sort

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<v Speaker 4>of really needed to sit down and figure out what

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<v Speaker 4>I want to do and you know, what I want

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<v Speaker 4>to have.

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<v Speaker 2>With a crackout, whether it's red ball or white ball.

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<v Speaker 4>So probably in the middle of that and probably needed

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of time to work through that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>look at it, it's always been a tough question to answer,

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<v Speaker 4>Like obviously it's great to have those comments come from

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<v Speaker 4>your coach, and yeah, it's just sort of comes down

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<v Speaker 4>to me and what sort of suits me and me

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<v Speaker 4>and my family and what makes us happy and yeah

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<v Speaker 4>and go from there. So yeah, got a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>work to go through at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and maybe this is a tough one to answer,

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of the formats, I mean, from an

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<v Speaker 1>outsider's point of view, it seems like T twenties and

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<v Speaker 1>one days would be pretty similar in terms of your

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<v Speaker 1>prep and everything. And then you've got four A and

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<v Speaker 1>five of their cricket, which is just a completely different

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<v Speaker 1>ball game. Do you prefer the the longer leadings and

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<v Speaker 1>the longer match days or are you happy with them

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<v Speaker 1>just in and out in one day sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good question.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, in terms of the playing style and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy with the sort of the short and sharp games.

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<v Speaker 4>But then I guess in terms of the training, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know what's actually good for your game, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>the red ball and training, you know, working on your

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<v Speaker 4>technique and trying to spend time in the middle, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess is really good for your game. So sort of

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<v Speaker 4>just weighing up all those pros and cons. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that you don't train for T twenty

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<v Speaker 4>or one days, but you know you probably don't get

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<v Speaker 4>the time in the middle that you can in red ball,

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, so they're sort of the things that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>weighing up and what I enjoy more or what I

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<v Speaker 4>don't And as I said, what what's better for me

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<v Speaker 4>in the family moving forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, cool. And so let's circle back to that

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<v Speaker 1>T twenty World Cup. You're in the preliminary squad and

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<v Speaker 1>then left out of the official squad that they took in.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you talk us through those decisions and how you

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<v Speaker 1>were sort of made aware of that and was a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise to you, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess when I found out I was in the

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<v Speaker 4>first squad of fifteen, the preliminary squad, I was obviously

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<v Speaker 4>really wrapped. And I guess from the moment I found out,

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<v Speaker 4>it was pretty much let's prep for World Cup and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, let's make sure, you know, I hit the

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<v Speaker 4>ground running and try and win a World Cup for

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<v Speaker 4>Australia and you know, just the whole sort of experience.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I've been been around the squad a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Over in the West Indies.

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<v Speaker 4>I was, you know, I was a replacement or not

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<v Speaker 4>a replacement of traveling reserve player.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I sort of had the taste of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know without playing.

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<v Speaker 4>So this this time, I was really keen to get

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<v Speaker 4>to Silanka and really push my case and and try

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<v Speaker 4>and be involved in the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>Was really going forward to it.

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<v Speaker 4>But then, yeah, I suppose we there weren't too many

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<v Speaker 4>comms sort of leading up to.

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<v Speaker 2>Leading up to the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously we had the Pakistan series, which again was a

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it was going to be a nice little

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<v Speaker 4>prep into the World Cup that I was going to use.

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<v Speaker 4>And I guess they made the conditions, you know, pretty tough,

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<v Speaker 4>tough to play, you know, looking at what Trelanka was

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<v Speaker 4>probably going to offer us. So you know, I was

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<v Speaker 4>really look forored to get into Pakistan and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sort of testing myself and then seeing what it was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be like. And yeah, obviously didn't not too

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<v Speaker 4>many I was did too well over in Pakistan. It

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<v Speaker 4>was a pretty tough series to be involved in. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I sort of found out well not to play the

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<v Speaker 4>first game in Pakistan and then got the call, got

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<v Speaker 4>a call from Dodders who was over there with us,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the day or the night before the second game.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the not before the second game of the three

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<v Speaker 2>game series.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like, oh, you know, he sort of

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<v Speaker 4>invited me into his room, and I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll probably get and dropped for the next couple of

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<v Speaker 4>games or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I walked.

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<v Speaker 4>In, Ronnie was in there as well, so I was like, shops,

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<v Speaker 4>something going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hadn't really heard much.

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<v Speaker 4>There wasn't much communication around, you know, what the sward

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<v Speaker 4>was doing, or you know, we're heading to Schlanker in

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<v Speaker 4>three days time. And then yeah, it's sort of Dods

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<v Speaker 4>was like, look, mate, there's atwing moving parts with injuries,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, they weren't sure how long TV was

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<v Speaker 4>going to take. And obviously Patty was out and and

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<v Speaker 4>hoff was was not ruled out at that stage, but

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<v Speaker 4>he was out. And yeah, they just said they wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to go with you know, while TV was out, they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted that they wanted Renders in in to come through

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<v Speaker 4>the middle. You know, maybe is a better option against spin,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it's a left hander, and you know, with the

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<v Speaker 4>top order being so so stacked as it was, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess my only way in was was probably through through

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<v Speaker 4>the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess that was the reasoning there.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, so I went into the room thinking I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't playing in Pakistan for the next couple of games,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, I still had an a Tralannka but

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<v Speaker 4>they were like, na, you're still playing the next couple

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<v Speaker 4>of games in Pakistan, but you'll be on the next

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<v Speaker 4>plane owns. So it was it was tough, but I

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<v Speaker 4>guess it's it's it's made me sort of realize and

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<v Speaker 4>sit down that there are there are actual areas of

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<v Speaker 4>my game that I need to improve and which I

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<v Speaker 4>suppose you probably comes more down to me. I've probably

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<v Speaker 4>gone through the last couple of years, gone from tournament

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<v Speaker 4>to tournament or series a series and not actually sat

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<v Speaker 4>down well enough or reviewed how I'm actually going or.

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<v Speaker 2>Or what what I need to work on, what's going well,

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<v Speaker 2>what's not.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I sort of use the last few weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, since getting back from Pakistan to talk to

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<v Speaker 4>the people I need to talk to and work out

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<v Speaker 4>a plan to get back in that Australian team and

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<v Speaker 4>and yeah, get better as a cricketer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough though, because I mean, obviously we've seen all

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<v Speaker 1>your success or a lot of your success in the

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<v Speaker 1>shortest form be at the top of the order. So

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<v Speaker 1>does it come to a point where you might have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, well, maybe I want to bat Elsa in

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<v Speaker 1>the order, just to show my flexibility and to show

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<v Speaker 1>that not necessarily just pigeonholers as an open end T

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<v Speaker 1>twenty cricket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit. I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I suppose that the reason that, yeah, I suppose the

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<v Speaker 4>reason I got into the Australian team in the first

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<v Speaker 4>place was from opening the batting and doing quite well.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't want to get rid of that, and

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<v Speaker 4>the communication from from you know, from Ronnie and Bales,

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<v Speaker 4>Doughters and whatnot. They still see me as an opening batsman,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when that that spot comes up, believe that

0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.920
<v Speaker 4>spot comes up. But then yeah, obviously to get into

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<v Speaker 4>the team at the moment's probably through the middle, the

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<v Speaker 4>moving parts there. So yeah, look, I've certainly had enough

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<v Speaker 4>experience through the middle. We had that big India series

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<v Speaker 4>here at home where I played a few games through

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<v Speaker 4>the middle. I did it a lot so early in

0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.200
<v Speaker 4>my career with the vis both read red and white

0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.800
<v Speaker 4>ball cricket, and then sort of the start of my

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<v Speaker 4>TEA twenty career as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, I don't I don't want to look

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<v Speaker 2>into it too much.

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<v Speaker 4>There's obviously areas to work on it, you know, against

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<v Speaker 4>spin and maybe those those sort of subcontinent conditions. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to sort of shy away from the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that, you know, opening the battings what's got me

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<v Speaker 4>into the team in the first place. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I sort of stick with that and have a play

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<v Speaker 4>around through the middle if I need to.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you sort of not that you'd be somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to pity yourself, but I mean you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Champions Trophy and that sort of tournament ended for you

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<v Speaker 1>with injury. Then you've got to this T twenty World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup and you were left out of the last minute.

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<v Speaker 1>You sort of think to yourself, yea, I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>could just have a bit of luck come of these

0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.520
<v Speaker 1>ICDC tournaments, so to'd be handy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's been been hard.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean yeah, I mean every time you get injured,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's always a you know, you say you're unlucky

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<v Speaker 4>and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's been a few series that I've missed.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have been really keen to playing the one

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<v Speaker 4>over in in Jamaica there, but I missed that through injury.

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<v Speaker 2>I think got in my side or something something my rib.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah there's been you know, I missed missed PSL tournament,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, earlier last year, which would have been nice

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<v Speaker 4>to sort of playing the conditions over there.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's obviously.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just been a bit a little bit frustrating

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<v Speaker 4>with injury and not getting that exposure that I probably

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<v Speaker 4>could have had throughout the year, so you know, which

0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.639
<v Speaker 4>ultimately gave them the you know, we haven't seen you

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<v Speaker 4>enough through the middle, or we haven't I haven't seen

0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:51.920
<v Speaker 4>you performed well enough against spin or whatnot. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it would have been nice to get those sort of

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<v Speaker 4>decent blocks of games for Australia, but yeah, injury has

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<v Speaker 4>would have gotten the way a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But here that's sort of is what it is. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't really control that too much.

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<v Speaker 1>And have you been watching the T twenty World Cup

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<v Speaker 1>or have you been completely just checked out of it

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<v Speaker 1>and not not even checking the scores.

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly checked the scores.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't didn't go far enough to sign up to

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<v Speaker 4>Prime or Amazon whatever it was. But no, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 4>I was pretty shattered when I when I got the

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<v Speaker 4>news and when I got home, and you know, I

0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.359
<v Speaker 4>just needed to need to get away from a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit and talk to my people and work out ways

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<v Speaker 4>to move forward and you know what needs to be

0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.000
<v Speaker 4>done to to get back in there. So yeah, kind

0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:43.680
<v Speaker 4>of put the World Cup aside and yeah, pretty much

0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.159
<v Speaker 4>moved on to what was next, and that was playing

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<v Speaker 4>Shield cricket.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that's all you have to do.

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably lucky enough that I had extra cricket to

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<v Speaker 4>go back to, but yeah, that was probably what kept

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<v Speaker 4>me doing I.

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<v Speaker 1>Suppose Now, obviously the Shield will be your focus for

0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.080
<v Speaker 1>the next little bit. But what do you have coming

0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.080
<v Speaker 1>up later in the year that we can look out for.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's an IPL in there, and you've played

0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:06.000
<v Speaker 1>MLC in the past.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I've only got the one one Shield game to

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 4>go this week and then I'll I'll head over to

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.640
<v Speaker 4>India for the i PL. I play with Chennai there

0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 4>and again use that block as a not a like

0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.000
<v Speaker 4>I want to head over there obviously to play into

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:26.919
<v Speaker 4>to win games and do well, but use it as

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:31.719
<v Speaker 4>a really good experience to bat over those conditions and

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 4>and you know, do a heap of training and playing

0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, the versing spin and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got, you know, lucky enough to have Mark Causi

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<v Speaker 2>over there as a batting coach.

0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 4>I've been in touch with him a few times, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>coming up with a plan and sort of ways ways

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<v Speaker 4>around my game that I can sort of focus on

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<v Speaker 4>and get better at. So that's been pretty cool. But

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<v Speaker 4>then there straight to MLC. I suppose after that, hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of Aussie series here and there if they

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<v Speaker 4>go ahead. But they've got the hundred Action coming up,

0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 4>which would be cool. Oh yeah, to head to England,

0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 4>that's always a cool pump. But yeah, sort of see

0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 4>what happens about. Yeah, there's always something going on that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent. Well, Shorty, thank you much, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to chat with you all the best this week

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<v Speaker 1>for the Vix and then yeah, the IPS that that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be great fun. We hope hopefully to get

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<v Speaker 1>to see you out in the middle for the Super Kings.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it, looking forward to it. What is something going

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<v Speaker 1>on that's great excellent? Well, Shorty, thank you much, thank

0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you so much for your time. Great to chat with

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<v Speaker 1>you all the best this week for the Vix and

0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, the IPS that that's going to be great fun.

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.399
<v Speaker 1>We hope hopefully to get to see you out in

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the middle for the Super Kings.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it, looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So great to hear from Matt Short, very candid, very

0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.119
<v Speaker 1>open and honest there, so we very much thank him

0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>for his time there. He obviously said he was devastated

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.560
<v Speaker 1>or shatted to miss out on that T twenty World Cup,

0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.679
<v Speaker 1>as you would be. And yeah, now he has a

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.639
<v Speaker 1>chance to go back and look at his game and say, well,

0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 1>do I want to really focus in on being a

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.200
<v Speaker 1>potential and middle order international player or he said he

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:13.959
<v Speaker 1>wants to stay at the top and do his thing

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:17.119
<v Speaker 1>for the Strikers, and that's where he's had all of

0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>his success, So that makes sense. But then I also

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>found it interesting how he said there maybe he wants

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:26.880
<v Speaker 1>to also consider where his priorities lay and we might

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 1>seem a bit more on the red ball stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's an interesting one. He's a by design, a

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.200
<v Speaker 3>casualty of opening the batting purely in the big bash.

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.719
<v Speaker 3>And again you said his success has been because of that,

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 3>but also now it probably makes him and with Steve

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Smith the same Yeah, in the same basket where when

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 3>you get pigeonholed as you can only open the batting

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 3>and be successful. Then it does make you easier to

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 3>be pushed aside for someone who does have adaptability. So

0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.879
<v Speaker 3>I don't know going forward. We seem to have this

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:01.680
<v Speaker 3>all the time with our T twenty team, but all

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 3>the batters when they go back to the big batch

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 3>open the batting and do really well like Marcus Steinis

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 3>did it. He doesn't now, but such a long period

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 3>of time for the Stars was open to the batting

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 3>would get pick to go away for shame with bat six.

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 3>So I think for adaptability purposes, like what Matt Rencha

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 3>has done, it feels like anyone can open the batting,

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 3>but not anyone can be successful. But it is the

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 3>easiest place to bat, so can for selection purposes if

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.399
<v Speaker 3>you want to play for Australia that more middle order.

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 3>He's got all strengths with his bow in terms of bowls,

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:38.239
<v Speaker 3>part time, spin and field so well. So there is

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 3>more to it than that. But can he show more

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 3>to his ability to bat anywhere in the order because

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.479
<v Speaker 3>he has been thrown in at six for Australia and

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 3>it's so foreign to him. So he did start his

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 3>career at the Strikers. I remember playing his first game

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 3>for the Strikers. He was batting middle order. He made

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 3>sixty or fifty balls and he was a young kid,

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.160
<v Speaker 3>so he can do it. So that's probably something as

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 3>you say, he's got a look at moving forward. But

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.879
<v Speaker 3>also the rebel stuff. Chris Rogers said, he's you know,

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 3>a chance to play for a shower in Test cricket.

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's wrong or right, but you

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 3>know there's a player there as well, so he definitely. Yeah,

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:13.880
<v Speaker 3>I guess it's going to be a big off season

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 3>for him. He's got IPOL so he's in dependent franchise

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:17.879
<v Speaker 3>cricket around the world. But yeah, it's going to be

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 3>an interesting time for him going forward.

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:21.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean his Sheffieldshire numbers are good.

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he averages more than forty over the past

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>few seasons, so he's definitely got that talent there. And

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean the IPL looks like a great opportunity for him.

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 1>If he does manage to get a game for the

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Chennai Super Kings, then obviously they're the conditions that the

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>selector's one to see more of him in. And yeah,

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>as he sort of touched on in that chat, under

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the guidance of Steven Fleming and Mike Hussy, two pretty

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>good players or former players to give him some guidance

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>on how to conquer those conditions.

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and whether or not he's playing, yeah, a training

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 3>that's going to be the best time to practice those

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 3>things as well. He's also in that weird basket where

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 3>I know full well when you're living in a place

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 3>where you're not playing your cricket, he's going to as

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 3>you get older, he's got a young kid. It actually

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 3>does weigh into your decision making and things. It does

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 3>it becomes harder to keep up with things if you

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 3>don't really want to keep up with them. So, as

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 3>you say, with all this red bull, white ball, you

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 3>know all this stuff, he's got a really big decision

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 3>to make. I think going forward, where you live on

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.120
<v Speaker 3>the Gold Coast, play for Victoria, but if your heart's

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 3>not really in it, very quickly you can you can

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 3>fall back and not want to do it. So, as

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 3>we say, the IPL is going to be great for

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 3>his upskilling, but also going forward, you'll know pretty shortly

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 3>what he wants to do with with this cricket going forward.

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he mentioned family a couple of times in

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>there as well, So it's obviously playing on his mind.

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>One thing that maybe brought back some demons for you

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>hearing was that selection chat, getting caught in to select

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a Tony dotta Made's room and having the coach there

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>as well. Did that bring back any bad memories for

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you being dropped or left out or unexpectedly not in

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the eleven.

0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, I've been dropped well like anyone has, but lots,

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 3>but never I'd never been dropped just before a World

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Cup or anything like that. I always I was ready

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 3>for it never happened in that way. I do remember

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.479
<v Speaker 3>one where I went to an ODI tour to India.

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Five games, we got thumped, we didn't have our best

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 3>team but actually did pretty well. And there was a

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 3>home One Day series maybe a month later that I

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.720
<v Speaker 3>got dropped for, and I got dropped for guys who

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 3>did well in the One Day Cup domestic that was

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 3>on whilst we were playing in India. So I remember

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 3>that sticking out and I was like, well, so I

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 3>just did well against India in their own backyard against

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Coali ish Arma, you know, the goats, but you've picked

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 3>guys who did well in the domestic cup at that

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 3>stage that was getting played in Sydney on like suburban ground.

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.360
<v Speaker 3>So everyone's got their selection. You know, cricketers love talking

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 3>about selection how unlucky we were, But that was one

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 3>that stuck out to me that I didn't get sat

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 3>in a room with the coach and the selector was

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 3>over the phone.

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>But maybe worse.

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, domestic wickets they're worth, they're worth their weight in gold,

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 3>and we won our domestic cricket to mean something. But

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 3>I felt like that was probably not on the same

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 3>scale of weight. So but yeah, there's been plenty. I

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 3>remember getting picked for a World Cup in Jai. Unfortunately

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't make the Cup for England. So I was the

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Matte rencher in that situation where oh yeah, literally the

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 3>plane was leaving the day later and I got the call, so.

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, it's good and bad to every story. I

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>guess that was twenty nineteen. Yeah, yeah, OK.

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 3>In hindsight, Hazelwood was ready to go as well and

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 3>didn't get picked. So I'll we live with it.

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Now. You got to take the good with the bad,

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 2>don't you.

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's go around the grounds end and we did touch

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>on the T twenty World Cup right at the start,

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>so we've got South Africa taking on New Zealand in Kolkata.

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>That's on Wednesday night, so we'll get the results Thursday morning,

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>or maybe if you're staying up through the night.

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>You'll get it live.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And then India and then England they play on Thursday

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>night in Mumbai, and of course i'd be Friday morning

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>when we're waking up to those. South Africa are still unbeaten.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>They've looked fantastic, the Kiwi's, I mean, they're doing nothing wrong,

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>are they, But it's going to be very tough to

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>be South Africa. They managed to push you aside Zimbabwe

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>in the last game, even though they'd left out Robata,

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yanson and Maharaj.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they've done everything right. They've embraced being one of

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 3>the best teams, I think, which is not something they're

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 3>used to in these kind of World Cups. So they've yeah,

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 3>in the last two twenty World Cup and now this

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 3>with the World Test Championship, they've kind of started to

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.719
<v Speaker 3>prove themselves in the international stage, cold cutter conditions. So

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 3>that's going to play into it. And you say New

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Zealand haven't done much wrong, they actually were pretty lucky

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 3>to make it through though when they with the groups

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 3>in terms of the table of that for sure, with

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 3>England being such a runaway that everyone's fighting for second

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 3>and they were lucky enough to get there.

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 2>But just net run rate.

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 3>And you can never discount them again, they always just

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 3>seem to punch above, so especially when it comes to

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 3>the business end. So yeah, again two massive games. Is

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 3>the final in a Metabad.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is.

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, memories there for India, aren't.

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>They definitely in this tournament and twenty twenty three World Cup.

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I was wondering if the SAMI was going to be

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 3>there and if they changed that last minute to one moir.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 3>So yeah again, So Africa, look, they if they if

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>they do beat New Zealand like sounds like we all expect,

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 3>then they could be favorites. Adam met Abaud with the

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 3>history of that India have had. Yeah, I'm just purely

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>speculating here, but you look at yeah, the two big

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 3>games they've lost there in the last few years, so

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Africa would be.

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>No, it's a good point and also because India will

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>get there with such great expectation on them if assuming

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>they knock have England, which I'm not sure that they're

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed to do as Pommei and Bangalo said, the England

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>really haven't hit their straps yet and they've still made

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>it all the way through. But yeah, I reckon given

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that South Africa they look so confident in their game,

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>they could go into that match potentially his favorites, but

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>with the lesser expectation on them. So that's sort of

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe a perfect situation.

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's similar to the twenty three World Cup, isn't it.

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 3>I remember we flew in that day for that T

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 3>twenty series that was afterwards that's stupid T twenty series.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 3>But we landed the day of the final and everyone

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 3>in the airport was like, you're going to lose, basically

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 3>like India at home final Metabad. The crowd's going to

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 3>be too much and we didn't know at the time,

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 3>but again, when there's that much expectation that it's just

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 3>going to it's a foegone conclusion. You're playing against really proud, skillful,

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>great cricketing nations that are confident in their own change room,

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 3>then anything can happen. So and again, as you say

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 3>about England, most of those guys play IPL so they're

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 3>so well tuned to the conditions. Will Jackson is having

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 3>what a World Cup he's had. He's basically the standout

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 3>player for them. But also you go through their order,

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 3>everyone plays ipl they have done for the last decade.

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 3>They're well in demand in franchise crete, they know T

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty crickets so well. So it isn't going to be

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 3>the easy semi final that India will probably hope for.

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 3>And then again, if you get through England and you've

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 3>got this beast in So Africa waiting, so yeah, it's

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 3>going to be interesting.

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>And big crowds aren't a factor either. I mean, we

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>know India so used to it, but given how much

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>of the South African team and the English team play

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>in l in front of these huge crowds, well I

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's really going to be a factor either.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's going to be great to watch. One

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>thing that really does annoy me about the Amedabad situation.

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I was lucky enough to go there in twenty twenty three.

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I've seen it firsthand. Everybody says, oh, it's got one

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty thousand seats.

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 2>That's just not correct.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>If you go on to their website, the Amedabad Stadium

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>website in Nearendromodi Stadium. It says that they've got about

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>ninety thousand seats. They got one hundred and twenty thousand

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>in there that day because Trump was a special guest,

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and then they had people on the field and so

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>they got an extra twenty or thirty. But there's not

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty thousand people in the ground for

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a for a cricket match. So I just want to

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>get that on the record. I'm not sure it's any

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>bigger than the MCJ either, So a bit of Ossie

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>pride there maybe, but yeah, there's a bit of maybe

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>exaggeration that goes on with they're reporting there.

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I reckon, Well, mcg is a big playing surface, so

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 3>maybe we can say MCG holds one hundred.

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I reckon, that's speak it good.

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>There you go.

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.239
<v Speaker 3>So for the record, that doesn't count. If people are

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 3>standing on the field, that doesn't count. If you can

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 3>get sixty thousand people standing on the grass.

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean when we're counting attendances, is all.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Same, yeah exactly, So yeah, you're right. I think it's

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 3>a good point. I actually haven't played there, but again,

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 3>like you said, the big crowd factor isn't what it

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 3>used to be because again the IPO all these guys

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 3>playing there, but they also play in front of big

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 3>crowds in there, not ninety or one hundred and twenty thousand,

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 3>but they play their domestic T twenty franchise leagues now

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 3>a massive thing. So if anything, the bigger the crowd,

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 3>the batter because it gives you guys a bigger showcase

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 3>to put on their skills and show how good they

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 3>really are.

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And how much desire would there be for this Africans

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>knowing how close they came two years ago to one

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:01.959
<v Speaker 1>to get that title. I mean, yes, they've had that

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>World Test Championship victory, a few of them, but a

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>few of them you're David Miller's and your Quentin the Cox,

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Well they weren't there for that, So there must be

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that desire to finally get that piece of silverwere and

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>then they can tick it off and be done with

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>that monkey on the back.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Well absolutely, I think that without knowing for sure, but

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 3>that would be to put yourself in such a strong

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 3>position after the disappointment of that last edition. Is that's

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 3>hard to do. Like, it's obviously what every team wants,

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 3>but to them back up in such emphatic styles to

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 3>this point now it kind of means nothing, but I'm

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 3>no doubt at all that, like you said, some of

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 3>the great cricketers of South Africa, especially in white ball,

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 3>haven't ticked off a trophy, So no doubt whatsoever. That's

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 3>driving and going forward and they've done everything right.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Heading across to the women's side of things, Australia clean

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>swept India in the ODI series, which means they've wrapped

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>up that multi format series as well with the Test

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>match still to play. They were absolutely dominant in this series.

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And I must say after watching that T twenty series

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>which India one two to one, I did think, oh wow,

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>is this maybe we've got a bit of a changing

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of the guard in Australia. Could this be the time

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.720
<v Speaker 1>that we see Australia finally lose on home soil?

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Not the case. They came back.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>They showed fifty overs is probably their strongest format has

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>been for a long time. And yeah, absolutely smashed them

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the other night, didn't they four hundred plus? As you

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>touched on Alyssa Heale, Beth Moone, you're getting in another century

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it was a total dominant display by the

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Aussie girls was.

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I think you're right in thinking that just with you

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Alyssa's time coming to an end, but also as they

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 3>start to progress and get older, what's coming through. I

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 3>know we've talked about breakout plays and stuff, but you

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 3>never know if that's going to translate to the international stage.

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 3>And it's going to be interesting as they go to

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 3>their next tour pretty much straight away after they wrap

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 3>up this home summer, so there is going to be

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 3>a transition period with obviously the new captain coming in

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 3>in Sofa. She's dealing with her own injury trouble, so

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 3>she's fine for that. But yeah, I think there's enough

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 3>in the cupboard still that they're going to be They're

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 3>going to be fine, And just with the coaching and

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 3>the structures they have set up in this country with

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 3>girls cricket and the grassroots, the pathways and stuff, I

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 3>think I think there's some good times on the horizon still.

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, we saw a debut for teenager Lucy Hamilton as

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 1>well in that third game. She rolled out in number

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>fifty five, Oh nice, which was of course famously worn

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>by famously by yourself, Yes, and that did get Mitch

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Stark commenting actually on the broadcast and your name was

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>mentioned and he, yeah, gave you a bit.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:38.399
<v Speaker 3>Is that why because of the number? Yeah?

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, really Lucy? Did she ask permission to didn't wear

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 2>the fifty five.

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:46.280
<v Speaker 3>There's not a strong lineage of fifty fives in Australian

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 3>white bool cricket. I think Ben Loughlin was before me. Yep,

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 3>I actually changed my number two fifty five. Oh yeah,

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 3>so you've had two. I was forty seven to begin with,

0:35:56.719 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 3>which wasn't my choice, but there wasn't much available, so

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, there is this thing in Australian cricket you

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 3>are meant to ask the previous owner of that number,

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>and forty seven no one had worn, so I just

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 3>got given that. I think it was my domestic number again,

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 3>and I want to fifty five. I took it without

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 3>telling Ben Laughlin and he hadn't played for Trey. It's

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 3>meant to be a two year I think it's two

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 3>year period. It was over two years i'd played b

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Ben at Adelaide. I thought he was never played for again.

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 3>He thought he was a good chance. He messaged me

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 3>on that tour. I left it on red never got

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.280
<v Speaker 3>back to him. So sorry, Ben, now we're getting stuff

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 3>on the record. Apologies Ben for not asking you for

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 3>fifty five, but Lucy didn't. She didn't need to. I'm

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 3>more than happy for fifty such a good number. Take it.

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Why did you want it so badly? Because Ben was

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>so good in it?

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Or you know it's I don't know if this is

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 3>well known, but Kenny Powers, the fictional baseball character he's

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 3>bound it out. It's a show. He's like an old

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 3>pitcher who Yeah, it's a story, but his number was

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 3>fifty five, and when I watched his show as a

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 3>twenty year older, I was like, that's my hero. For

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 3>those who know, Kenny Bowers was my inspiration for number

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 3>fifty five. But it is a strong cricketing number. Ben Stokes,

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Koren Pollard, Yeah, yeah, there you go. Players keep and

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I are.

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>And now Lucy Hamilton, there's every chance she'll be the

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 1>best of the lot we've seen from her so far.

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Chance. Okay, let's let's talk about some Shefford Shield.

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:32.760
<v Speaker 1>We do have Jake Cleban coming up to talk about

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>being Domestic Cricketer of the Year and also making a

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>move to play for Hampshire full time. So stick around

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>for that, but firstly, we've only got two rounds of

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the Shield to come rich oh and although the Victoria

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>have locked in their spot in the final, there are

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>really a couple of teams who could make it as well.

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So we've got Queensland and South Australia are in second

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and third, and then mathematically Tasmania and New South Wales

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.439
<v Speaker 1>can still make it as well from fourth and fifth,

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>so it's a nice way to finish the season. This

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>week it's Tasmania, Victoria, South Australia's and New South Wales

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and then Queen's Antique on w A. It all starts

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, live streams on Cricket dot Com.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 2>That are you in the c LA app?

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a big round, four teams for one spot.

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 3>It probably is going to be after this round you're

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:20.280
<v Speaker 3>going to know, really, aren't we? And there's always results

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 3>like the draws kind of gone unless there's raining a round.

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I feel like every every game is a result in

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 3>three days now, so yeah, we'll get a good idea.

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:29.919
<v Speaker 3>I think I feel like Queensland are in the box

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 3>seat just the way they're playing. They've got w A

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 3>this week. We have struggled this year again, so I

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 3>feel like it is a queens and spot to lose.

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.760
<v Speaker 3>But then s a he just can never never counted

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 3>me out, my old my old fellas. So yeah, with

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Kerry back, New South Wales have they have they named

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 3>their squad if we spoke about it last week for

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 3>the One Day Cup. You just never know who's going

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:57.240
<v Speaker 3>to go rather the Winter or the World Cup. Allies

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 3>that they put on as they flew back, you never know. Well,

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Sean but will be back for them, so they'll be strong.

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Travis header will be back for Travis Head.

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I was going to mention his name, but you just

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 3>never know with him. So whether he's got like some

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 3>golf appearance on him, oh of course, somewhere in the world.

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 3>He's got a hole in one to think, so.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can drain puts from forty feet so you

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 2>can do anything.

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 3>You just never know. But also with the management of

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 3>those guys, that's such a big summer with the Ashes

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 3>and the World Cup, so hopefully there is as many

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 3>of those guys back playing as possible.

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>With Victoria locked in, Scott Boland is obviously so key

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>for them. The word was when he returned after the

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Ashes that he would probably play the final three matches

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>of the season. Now though, are you thinking Q and

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the rack for someone like him? He's just so important

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>for you.

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 3>He also played five tests indn' he of the Ashes,

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 3>so you don't need thirty six. It needs to be

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:49.320
<v Speaker 3>a management plan. It would be nice for him to

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 3>play every game, but I don't think they need him

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.240
<v Speaker 3>to maybe play this one and have Round ten often

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 3>and keep him in Melbourne and get him ready for

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.080
<v Speaker 3>what it is a massive game for them, So I

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 3>would know better than us, but I would dare say

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 3>you can miss a game count.

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>He's probably he's not going to lose form off missing

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:07.399
<v Speaker 1>one round.

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I think you could miss a year and get out

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 3>of bed without bowling and still just running the top

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 3>of off, you know, one hundred and twenty times in

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 3>a day and not lose any pace. So yeah, give

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 3>him a game off.

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there you go.

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>So Queensland they have a zero point nine to five

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>point buffer, so less than one point over South Australia.

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.880
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<v Speaker 1>by the Men's Domestic Cricketer of the Year Jake Leman.

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the podcast mate. How's it all going over

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 1>there in Adelaide.

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 2>No, thanks for having me.

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.720
<v Speaker 5>It's it's an enjoyable time in adelade at the moment

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 5>and some good cricket to hopefully finish the year.

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Was it a surprise to be named the Domestic Cricketer

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 1>of the Year.

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 5>I knew that I had had a pretty good calendar

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 5>year overall, but yeah, I guess when it's voted by

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 5>your peers and people that you play against and probably

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 5>some of the players that I look up to too

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.879
<v Speaker 5>along the way as well. To get the recognition over

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 5>some other players that magnificent years as well is probably

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 5>something special at all look back on.

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:25.879
<v Speaker 2>For sure.

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I was looking through your stats and six of your

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>fifteen Sheffield Chield hundreds have come in the past two seasons,

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>so it's been a real goal and run. What do

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you sort of put that down to? Is something changed

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>or is something clicked that wasn't there before.

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 5>I just think there's a multiple, like a multiple things

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 5>that have kind of come together. I think, you know,

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 5>Ryan Harrison taking over as coach has probably freed me

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 5>up and probably gave me a few home trills about

0:41:54.920 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 5>what to do, probably a slight changing technique with Stevens

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 5>others and a few other batting coaches around how I

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 5>want to play my cricket and then probably lastly just

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 5>going back to enjoying it and you know, playing cricket

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 5>for the right reason, right reason and just trying to

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 5>enjoy every moment and every game and try and do

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 5>the right thing for the team and play for you

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 5>with a smile on my face, which has been highly enjoyable.

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 5>And you know it's probably come with a few wins

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 5>along the way. And last year was awesome for South Australia.

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, a combination of things, but yeah, it's all

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 5>kind of trended in the right direction late in my career.

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great.

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Would you say that there was a period there where

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you just weren't enjoying cricketer? Is that sort of maybe

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 1>why you've been able to recognize that you really are

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>enjoying it now.

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 5>I just think at times, you know, I think throughout

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 5>my career at Soustralia, we probably rode some highs pretty

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 5>early when I was younger and didn't quite get an

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 5>overall win, and there was some low lows I think

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 5>as a team and trying to lead players through that

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 5>period and trying to come out the other side of that.

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Probably I wouldn't say that I love cricket.

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 5>I will always love cricket, but probably didn't realize how

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 5>much of a toll it takes on you mentally to

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 5>try and stay upbeat and stay positive and you know,

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 5>try and keep driving that team forward.

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 2>So probably just a few of those.

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:30.240
<v Speaker 5>Pressures released and you know you're rocking up and training

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 5>and you're just focusing on yourself and what you have

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 5>to do to prepare to to play well.

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's really threwed me up again. Now.

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure one of your career highlights must have been

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that sho Would Final last year. You got that century

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>in the first innings and obviously it was a drought

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>breaking victory. Can you take us back to that match?

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>And now that we're nearly a year on, has has

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it sunk in that you were part of history for

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>your state.

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was. It was an awesome day. You know,

0:43:58.400 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 5>it was an awesome year to be honest with you.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 5>I think we continue to build it all year and

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 5>we played probably the best cricket were probably were the

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 5>best team all year. So it was just one of

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 5>those rewards for you know a lot of hard work

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 5>over probably like the three or four years before that,

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 5>like I was saying, from all the boys and everything

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 5>just kind of clicked and you know, to see to

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 5>see Karen Rolton the way it was and to see

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 5>everyone rock up and you know give back to South

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:31.879
<v Speaker 5>Australian cricket for what's given us over the last little beer.

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 5>That was probably the proudest moment from me saying all

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 5>the family and friends and all the staff and the

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 5>background and you know, all the past players that have

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 5>tried their best to over this period of time to

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 5>recreate that.

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 2>So just the whole area of it was awesome.

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 5>And you know at the moment, you know, we've just

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 5>kind of missed out on the one day final making that,

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 5>so you know that's the probably first kicking teef we've

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 5>kind of as a team and probably driving us in

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 5>these last couple of rounds to try and put some

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 5>really good performance on the board and make sure we're

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 5>playing in that Shield final against Victoria.

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I mean a century in a winning Shield

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 1>final though. That's the stuff of dreams, isn't it. Is

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that as good as it gets in terms of being

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a domestic player.

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's one thing I always get compared

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 5>to my old man, so I'm happy to bring this

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 5>one up.

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think he has one of them.

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 5>So you know, there's not many things that I that

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:33.839
<v Speaker 5>I can beat him at statistically wise, but that's one

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 5>of them.

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.720
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was just awesome.

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:40.280
<v Speaker 5>I think the game situation and where the game was heading,

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 5>and you know, the form leading and I'd probably been

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 5>consistently doing that in those situations, so to do it

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 5>in you know, the Shefferdsfield Final of all places, is

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.719
<v Speaker 5>something that you can look back on and go like,

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, I was ready and I performed in you know,

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 5>one of the toughest, high pressure games.

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 2>That's brilliant. Yeah.

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Now we heard a month or so ago that you're

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be taking up a contract with Hampshire as

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a local player. I believe you've got a British passport,

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 1>So can you talk us through how that deal sort

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>of came about and what it means for your cricket now.

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's an opportunity that we've been probably looking at

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 5>for the last couple of years and just trying to

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 5>explore the opportunity for me to continue to play cricket

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 5>and continue to branch out and try new things.

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, my mum was.

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 5>Actually fully British born, She's a British citizen. So I've

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 5>had the British passport and been over and played for

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 5>Yorkshire and Lancashire before using the passport. So you know,

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 5>it was just a cool that kind of came out

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 5>of the blue, and it was an opportunity that I

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 5>wanted to jump out and take with both hands.

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 2>And lucky enough that Soccer Soccer.

0:46:56.840 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 5>Have supported it to be able to come back, can

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 5>play another year here, and you know, just I just

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 5>want to keep learning and keep going and keep spreading,

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 5>spreading my love for the game of cricket.

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Why it's going well. So I'm super excited to get over.

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 5>There and Giles and the staff and all the players

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 5>over there. I'm excited to make them and hopefully have

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 5>an impact and make them a better cricket team.

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, So I mean, as you said, you've been

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:27.760
<v Speaker 1>over there and played before, but this was an approach

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that they made to you. Was that they put on

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the table and said come over here and and be

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a local player for us.

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah we've been, We've been reaching in and seeing if

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 5>anyone was keen also, So I was definitely a two

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 5>way street and you know, conversations that probably hadn't previously.

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 2>This probably didn't What.

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 5>The timing wasn't quite right was you know, I've got

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 5>two young kids and you know the ability to travel

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 5>over there and all these small little things that come up.

0:47:55.880 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 5>So the timing was probably right for me as a

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 5>player and as a person in my life situation. So yeah,

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:06.360
<v Speaker 5>I jumped at it with both hands.

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 2>What do you think you want to achieve from this

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 2>new role? I suppose Yeah.

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, I want to make Hampshire a better

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 5>team first and foremost, and the goal is to keep

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 5>winning stuff. I think at my age now there you

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 5>know what drives me is trying to win county championships

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 5>or the one Days or the Blast or Sheffield Shields.

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 5>That's kind of what I've turned My focus to is

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 5>trying to win as many games as I can. And

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, what do you remember players for? And it's

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 5>probably the players that win stuff probably get recognized the

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 5>most at the back end of their career once they're gone.

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 5>So they're the things that I've really tried to achieve

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 5>and hopefully that's something that I can do.

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 2>And on the flip side of that.

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.440
<v Speaker 5>Hopefully I can learn some stuff that they do over

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 5>there a little bit different to what I could do,

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 5>and hopefully I can bring that back here and implement

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.359
<v Speaker 5>that also and makes southtral a better cricket team when

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:04.839
<v Speaker 5>I get bad.

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I was going to ask, does this mean

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 1>that you'll now be playing as an overseas player for

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.360
<v Speaker 1>South Australia or is that a conversation you've had with

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the SAKA.

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it would mean that I would have to play

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:16.280
<v Speaker 5>as an overseas players.

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.760
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, that looks a little bit different.

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 5>But I know there's a few few players in the

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 5>past that have done and Mark Cosgrove's done it before.

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 5>You know, we've had boats do it over here. We've

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 5>had Charlie Henphy up in Queensland. I think he did it.

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.840
<v Speaker 5>I think Sam Whiteman's going to do it as well,

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 5>so it's not uncommon, but it's just probably not as

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 5>put out there is as much as other things.

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, and well you're old man. You mentioned him before,

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 1>but he'll be coaching over there again again this season,

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>won't he.

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 2>So will you be facing it? Are you in the

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:51.360
<v Speaker 2>same division?

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 5>No, they're in Division two and Hampshire and Division one,

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 5>so I don't think we actually have any scheduled games

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 5>against them unless we see them in a in a

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 5>finals game somewhere along the line.

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, no doubt your part will cross at some point,

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>as you touched on New South Wales and Victoria to

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 1>finish the season for you guys here in the Sheffield Shield,

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>going for back to back, probably going to need to

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.280
<v Speaker 1>win both of those games. What's the mood around those

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 1>around the group at the minute in terms of yeah,

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>making that final and taking on the vis in the decider.

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, I think the Queensland Shield game for

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.319
<v Speaker 5>us was a really good step forward, playing some really

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 5>good cricket and then on the back of that then

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.239
<v Speaker 5>we we've got that little kicking the taste for not

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 5>being able to make that one day Final. So the

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 5>drive is definitely there from the playing group and I

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 5>feel like hopefully in the last two games we'll have

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 5>a pretty strong squad with some player availability coming back

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 5>so from from the World Cup, which which will be

0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 5>awesome to strengthen and hopefully this week is a massive

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 5>game against New South Wales. You know they're fighting for

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 5>a spot and they're playing in the One day Final,

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 5>so that they've got things to prove and you know

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 5>they're playing some good, strong cricket as well.

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 2>So but the thing is is still probably up to.

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 5>Us and it's on our terms and that's that's one

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.719
<v Speaker 5>thing that we want to continue going into the last round.

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 5>We want it to be us needing to win or

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 5>us needing to get the points that we want. We

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 5>don't want to rely on any results. So this week

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 5>is probably massive for us.

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.560
<v Speaker 1>And one of those guys coming back from the World

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>couple we Ben Menenti. How cool is it to see

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:40.239
<v Speaker 1>a teammate to go about their business on the world stage.

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously you've got Travis Head and Alex Carey

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 1>who do it so much for Australia, but this is

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a different one for Italy.

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think, you know, just that just shows you

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 5>how good cricket can be and how you know a

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 5>different path to get to the highest level. And the

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 5>play a T twenty World Cup in India is something

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:00.479
<v Speaker 5>that you're probably not going to get to do in March,

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 5>and for him to do it with his hurry's brother

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 5>and a couple of his best mates and you know

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:08.879
<v Speaker 5>everyone back here we were watching every every game.

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, you.

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:11.360
<v Speaker 5>Probably weren't sure if they're going to win or not,

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:13.399
<v Speaker 5>but you know, he went out there and I think

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 5>he was the most influential impact player of the mine around,

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:21.840
<v Speaker 5>so you know, the support was there and it just

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 5>shows you how you know, if you if you get

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 5>these opportunities to perform against England, and you know, it

0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 5>would have been.

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Cooled to probably see Italy play Australia.

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 5>That would have been great if heat he was boln

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 5>ben he was boling a heavy or something that.

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was just it was.

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 5>Really cool to see and proud of the way that

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:41.880
<v Speaker 5>they probably carry themselves.

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Mostly Yeah, absolutely, yeah, they did really well and no

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 1>doubt we'll see them again. I was just looking back

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 1>through your record. Obviously you've played for the SAKA for

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:55.359
<v Speaker 1>ten years now and ten years ago in your third

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Shield match a double century against Tasmania. What do you

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 1>member is like that much? Because yeah, amazing to be

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to pull off such a big scorer, so really in

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>your career.

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:09.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a long time ago now, but you know,

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:11.360
<v Speaker 5>it was one of those things when you're probably a

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 5>little bit younger and you're taking things for a little

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 5>bit of a little bit granted, but I do remember

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.919
<v Speaker 5>one moment of that game. I think, you know, we're

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 5>I think we're three for fifty odd and I battered

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 5>all day with Callen Ferguson. We were getting close to

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 5>the end of the day and they took the new

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 5>ball and I think, I think I would have been

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:33.320
<v Speaker 5>on one hundred and sixty, one hundred and seventy or

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 5>something like that, and I started to.

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Get a bit loose and a bit of carry on.

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 5>You know, I thought of done my job, and I

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:40.399
<v Speaker 5>just remember further like pure my head, and he goes,

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 5>we've got something amazing to do here. We get through

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 5>the night, we get through this new ball. You know,

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:47.799
<v Speaker 5>we could boys get double hundreds tomorrow night. You know,

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 5>it was just one thing that I was like, all right,

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to remember that because you know, it was

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 5>a way that someone else can help you at the

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 5>other end, help the team, don't expose anyone else that night.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:04.479
<v Speaker 5>You know, all those small little team fundamentals came into

0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 5>that moment. So yeah, that's one thing I do remember

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 5>of it, and it was a bit of It was

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 5>a bit of a run fast enough. I think George

0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 5>Bailey got a hundred. I think Ben Dunk got a hundred,

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:17.799
<v Speaker 5>but we won. So yeah, it was one of the

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 5>one of the good wins that we had during that

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:22.320
<v Speaker 5>early part of my career.

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Mate, you shouldn't be telling people was a run fast.

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 1>You should be telling people it was an absolute mindfield

0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and you've got two hundred.

0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:30.359
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I also wanted to ask because we had Alex Carey.

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>He was on the Big Bash Surge podcast during the

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Big Bash season and he mentioned his Big Bash debut

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:45.359
<v Speaker 1>for the Strikers involved you. You were there in that

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:47.400
<v Speaker 1>match and you got the wicked of Shane Watson in

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that match. I just wanted to get good memories of

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:50.320
<v Speaker 1>getting out the Great Wadow.

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:50.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:53.919
<v Speaker 5>Out of all the stories that I probably tell over

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 5>my Big Beast journey, it's probably the one that I

0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 5>bring up the most. That's probably the reason is remembered

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:02.440
<v Speaker 5>it is because I've probably said it fifty times.

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, I loved that it was.

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:07.399
<v Speaker 5>It was at that time I was trying to bowl

0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 5>a little bit more, but my bowling wasn't that great.

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:13.520
<v Speaker 5>But I was trying to find a way to contribute

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 5>to the games in T twenty cricket. And you know

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 5>the wicket was wasn't that great. I think It's Shorely

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 5>had got like six for eight.

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Or something like that.

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 5>It was spinning and I bowl I bowled a pretty

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 5>bad ball and what I hit it straight up and

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 5>Benny Carter and Jason Sanger that's come across. He was

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 5>actually at the Thunder at the time and he reckons

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 5>it's one of what those biggest bloops that he's ever

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, he probably doesn't remember it, but I definitely do.

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh mate, that's definitely something to hang your hat on.

0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:49.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, forget about winning the Sheffield Jill though, mean

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you've got Shane Watson out in a big best game.

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 2>So that's it.

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Awesome mate. Well, really appreciate your time. All the best

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the season and good luck over

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 1>there in England Ham she I hope it goes well

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, hopefully you set a new legacy over there

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 1>in the UK.

0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 2>No, thank you very much.

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:12.920
<v Speaker 1>So the domestic Cricketer of the Year Jake Leman. What

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 1>a purple patch he's been in. Obviously, there was a

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of talent at the start of his career, as

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned to him, a double century in his third

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>match ever.

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 2>But just the last couple of years he's just been

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:23.919
<v Speaker 2>on another level.

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it was four matches in a row he

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.080
<v Speaker 1>got a century at the end of last season, including

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 1>in the final. Talk about big, big game player and

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:34.240
<v Speaker 1>peaking at the right time as well. That's so important,

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's such an amazing story for his agent. It

0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 3>was halfway through last year. I think he was probably

0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 3>treading water, looking like it was the end of it,

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:44.920
<v Speaker 3>to be honest, and he would probably admit that I

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you did in that chart. I don't

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:48.719
<v Speaker 3>think he did. But and I remember even my time

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 3>then when I left, I still felt he was you

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 3>know that guy, he's just on the edge over thirty,

0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:57.919
<v Speaker 3>not going to play for Australia at this point. It's

0:56:57.960 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 3>just such an like it's a famous name in South

0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:01.880
<v Speaker 3>stra cricket. But I felt like his time was coming

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden he's just gone to

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:07.680
<v Speaker 3>career best form. So happy because he's one of the

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 3>great guys in the room, Like he's so universally liked

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 3>in this Australia wide love like no one has a

0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 3>bad way to say about him. He's a great fellow,

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 3>great team man, super professional, does everything right. But to

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 3>also just get a trophy again famous name is South

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Australian cricket to follow on that lineage of Darren but

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:30.240
<v Speaker 3>do it his own way now as well. Like he's

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 3>he's There's just you can't say too many good things

0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:36.120
<v Speaker 3>about him because it is such an amazing turnaround to

0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 3>win Domestic Player of the Year. Now have a gig

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:40.120
<v Speaker 3>lined up with Hamshare.

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Thirty three, thirty four, whatevery years. He's in the best

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 3>nick of his life. So yeah, I don't know what

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 3>else to say other than he's just it's probably been

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 3>ten years of really hard graft and on the edge

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 3>a performance here, performance there. All of a sudden you

0:57:56.760 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 3>just shows you can never give up on people because

0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 3>you just never know what's around the corner. So yeah,

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 3>super proud of him. Is yeah, as I've said, a

0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 3>great fella, one of the great team guys, celebrates everyone's

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 3>success even if you know he doesn't perform. I remember

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:16.080
<v Speaker 3>that two hundred actually as well. I wasn't there, but

0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I remember speaking to George Bailey, I think he was

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 3>captain of Tasmania and I messaged him that night and

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I said, like to talk to me and he goes,

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 3>it's almost as if our bowlers didn't know the cut

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:30.120
<v Speaker 3>shot existed. So we bowled there all day and at

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 3>that stage with Jake Lehman's career, that's literally that's all

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 3>he had was a cut shot. Yeah, and he hit

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:37.960
<v Speaker 3>two hundred runs with a cut shot, and George was

0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 3>just scratching his head thinking it's like these guys just

0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 3>wanted to keep seeing this new shot that had been

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:45.439
<v Speaker 3>invented that day, so they kept bowling there. But yeah,

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean he was on the edge of Australian selection.

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:49.880
<v Speaker 3>He was spoken about after that. Yeah, he was in

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Australia a selection as a young early twenties kid. And then,

0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:55.360
<v Speaker 3>as I said, that kind of dip came and then

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:57.640
<v Speaker 3>he was treading water. So yeah, amazing story.

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 1>And the cuts shot still a strength of him, yeah,

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of course, but.

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Well and talking about that though, like it's funny because

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:07.440
<v Speaker 3>he's it's still such a strong sholt of his and guys,

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 3>I remember when we'd come up against Victoria, we'd have

0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Head and Leman in the middle order and they would

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.200
<v Speaker 3>literally bowl cut shots but put it was like the

0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 3>old Damian Martin field where you bowled his strength, but

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:20.440
<v Speaker 3>put all the field in there. Put in. They put

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 3>in like four slips, two gullies catching point deep point,

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 3>So they're like, if you want to play it, you

0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 3>might get a single for it. We also think you're

0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna nick it. So it's amazing, like you can have

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 3>success now as you get older and everyone knows your

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 3>game that well. But he's almost evolved. He's added again

0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 3>upskill just out of different areas. He's never going to

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 3>lose a cut shot as a strength. But it just

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 3>shows like I don't know, people can plan for you

0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:47.440
<v Speaker 3>for so long and I think they've got it all

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 3>worked out, there's still ways you can get better and

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:50.480
<v Speaker 3>keep performing well.

0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 1>David Seka, who was bowling coach of England during the Ashes,

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.479
<v Speaker 1>he actually mentioned that plan that they had the vis

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.520
<v Speaker 1>back in the data Travis hid and they tried it

0:59:58.520 --> 0:59:59.720
<v Speaker 1>a bit during the Ashes series.

1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Might work out so well.

1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:03.720
<v Speaker 3>With mysteries, better now than when he was that young

1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:06.680
<v Speaker 3>South Australian captain because they played on ego a bit

1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:08.680
<v Speaker 3>as well, and again we were a young group and

1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Heeddy was like a twenty two year old captain who

1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:14.160
<v Speaker 3>wasn't thinking a lot and probably still doesn't. But after

1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 3>probably ten balls of Scott Bowland bowling it out there,

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:17.840
<v Speaker 3>he just would chase one in nick it.

1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I guess that's probably why it becomes such a good

1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:24.480
<v Speaker 3>player now, is those those domestic battles against Cam White,

1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:28.120
<v Speaker 3>who's such an amazing cricket brain, you know, going through

1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:32.600
<v Speaker 3>that stuff again, he's preparing these guys for future success

1:00:32.640 --> 1:00:35.400
<v Speaker 3>and that's again showed in Limo and Hetty's case.

1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Limo talked about, you know, falling out of

1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 1>love of the game a bit there as well, which

1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 1>is totally understandable when you're not making runs and South

1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Australia weren't winning a lot of games in the Shield

1:00:45.680 --> 1:00:48.920
<v Speaker 1>through that period either, So great to see him come

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.880
<v Speaker 1>back and obviously rEFInd that love and then under Bryan

1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Harris's leadership. They've become a real force again. So things

1:00:56.480 --> 1:00:58.200
<v Speaker 1>can turn around very quickly in this game.

1:00:58.600 --> 1:01:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. I think the other thing he dealt with he

1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:04.360
<v Speaker 3>was the older guy where before I left, But then

1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:06.720
<v Speaker 3>after that, you know, Chad Say has left, Joe Mani,

1:01:06.880 --> 1:01:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Tom Cooper, Callum Ferguson probably missing someone in there. But

1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Adam Zamper so a lot of older guys that he

1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:15.000
<v Speaker 3>was mates with and friends with Ashley left and all

1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:16.520
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden he was hanging out with really young

1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:19.680
<v Speaker 3>guys Alex Cary, who they're really good mates, but he

1:01:19.720 --> 1:01:21.920
<v Speaker 3>was off playing for austral All of a sudden, it

1:01:22.000 --> 1:01:24.240
<v Speaker 3>can become quite a foreign place. You've got all these

1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:26.800
<v Speaker 3>guys coming from into state. So saying he fell out

1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:29.440
<v Speaker 3>of love with the game isn't surprising because it probably

1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:32.040
<v Speaker 3>didn't feel like the change room that he used to

1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:33.680
<v Speaker 3>be in. All of a sudden, you've got these new

1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:36.040
<v Speaker 3>guys coming in. But then all of a sudden you

1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:38.240
<v Speaker 3>grow with that. Alex Cary comes back, you're in a

1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:41.760
<v Speaker 3>shill final, new coach comes in that you love. So yeah,

1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:45.200
<v Speaker 3>it's a great story of perseverance and again, as I said,

1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.120
<v Speaker 3>a great team man so well deserved.

1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:48.200
<v Speaker 1>And now he's going to have to play as an

1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:51.000
<v Speaker 1>overseas player, yeah for his home state, which must be

1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:53.520
<v Speaker 1>such a weird situation to be in. But he's signed

1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:56.120
<v Speaker 1>a two year deal with Hampshire to play as a

1:01:56.200 --> 1:01:59.600
<v Speaker 1>local player. As he touched on, his mother is British

1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and passport, so that's a fun, new, exciting opportunity. I mean,

1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Jacob thirty four in in June or July in mid

1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this year, so I guess he's thinking about his future

1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and setting himself up for his family. And we've also

1:02:14.480 --> 1:02:16.320
<v Speaker 1>heard that Sam Weiman is going to do the same thing,

1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:18.440
<v Speaker 1>so maybe it's something that will start to see a

1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:19.800
<v Speaker 1>bit more of from the AUSSI guys.

1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:21.920
<v Speaker 3>What's a good option to have If you have the option,

1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:23.480
<v Speaker 3>like we just saw ben an Ency go play a

1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:25.120
<v Speaker 3>World Cup for Italy, So if you've got the option

1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:27.480
<v Speaker 3>with a passport to go play more cricket, and it's

1:02:27.480 --> 1:02:29.160
<v Speaker 3>not like, guys, they're going to look at them differently

1:02:29.240 --> 1:02:30.720
<v Speaker 3>in the change room and they come back because they're

1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:32.720
<v Speaker 3>an overseas player. Maybe they should have to wear an

1:02:32.760 --> 1:02:34.960
<v Speaker 3>armband or like a different colored number as like an

1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Alpha status, but a different helmet, different helmet. Yeah, they

1:02:38.880 --> 1:02:40.920
<v Speaker 3>got to wear their county helmet, but put some tape

1:02:40.960 --> 1:02:44.400
<v Speaker 3>over it or something. But it's they're going to be

1:02:44.480 --> 1:02:47.280
<v Speaker 3>welcome back. It's no one cares that they're an overseas player.

1:02:47.360 --> 1:02:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Like so to get the option to go play county cricket.

1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:55.080
<v Speaker 3>His dad's got such a strong history in the county game.

1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Guys used to do it all the time, didn't they

1:02:57.120 --> 1:02:58.480
<v Speaker 3>back in that era where they'd go over there and

1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:02.320
<v Speaker 3>make a thousand runs every every winter. So it's almost

1:03:02.400 --> 1:03:04.480
<v Speaker 3>nice that we're seeing guys do that again more. And

1:03:04.520 --> 1:03:07.240
<v Speaker 3>then also to have overseas players come back and play

1:03:07.240 --> 1:03:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Shield cricket because that used to be a more common

1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:11.800
<v Speaker 3>thing that it is now. We haven't had an overseas

1:03:11.840 --> 1:03:14.680
<v Speaker 3>playing the Shield for a long time. So yeah, more

1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:15.440
<v Speaker 3>cricket the battle.

1:03:15.560 --> 1:03:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I know that the English fans aren't super happy with

1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the situation that we have that it seems like the

1:03:20.640 --> 1:03:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Aussies can go over freely and then when an English

1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:25.240
<v Speaker 1>play wants to come over here and play, it's a

1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:28.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of a harder process to work out. But you

1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:29.880
<v Speaker 1>know that's we've only got six states, so it's not

1:03:29.920 --> 1:03:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like we've got heaps of spots to fill over here.

1:03:32.280 --> 1:03:35.880
<v Speaker 3>But still if Joe Root rang Queensland tomorrow, it's like,

1:03:35.920 --> 1:03:37.400
<v Speaker 3>I want to come play Shield next year. Do you

1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:38.320
<v Speaker 3>think they're going to say no?

1:03:38.360 --> 1:03:39.000
<v Speaker 2>They'd make it work.

1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:41.680
<v Speaker 3>They'd make it work. So I know Jake Gleaman and

1:03:41.720 --> 1:03:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Sam Wyman aren't Joe Rude, but it's still at that point.

1:03:45.080 --> 1:03:46.960
<v Speaker 3>If someone's going to want to come and make your

1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:49.200
<v Speaker 3>team better and it's going to help their development but

1:03:49.480 --> 1:03:51.680
<v Speaker 3>also going to help the players around so it's benefit

1:03:51.720 --> 1:03:53.960
<v Speaker 3>for everyone, then I'm sure people would listen. So like

1:03:54.000 --> 1:03:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Andy Flower used to do it for the South Australia.

1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Remember Unis cahn't did it?

1:03:58.200 --> 1:03:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Did you play with Unice?

1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:01.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't play with him, but I was training and

1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:03.880
<v Speaker 3>the things guys learned from him at training, like that's

1:04:03.920 --> 1:04:06.440
<v Speaker 3>the valuable experience that you draw from that and we

1:04:06.440 --> 1:04:07.880
<v Speaker 3>see it all the time in the Big Bash. So

1:04:08.320 --> 1:04:10.720
<v Speaker 3>that argument doesn't really apply to T twenty cricket, but

1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:12.520
<v Speaker 3>it does for Fordy cricket. I don't think it should

1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:16.040
<v Speaker 3>because it makes people better and I'm sure Jake part

1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:17.960
<v Speaker 3>of his deal is that when he goes to Hampshire

1:04:17.960 --> 1:04:20.000
<v Speaker 3>he's got a bit of a duty to you know,

1:04:20.160 --> 1:04:22.040
<v Speaker 3>the young kids coming through at Hampshire. He's going to

1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:25.160
<v Speaker 3>help you, provide them with opportunities to get better as well.

1:04:25.240 --> 1:04:27.000
<v Speaker 2>So this is how to play the cut shot.

1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, maybe they haven't discovered the cut shot like

1:04:30.280 --> 1:04:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Tasmania hadn't that day. So I think this benefit for everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think those people that get their nose out

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<v Speaker 3>of joints probably not right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as we touched on the Big Four, this week

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be part time bowlers, part time balls

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<v Speaker 1>who should be bowling more. That's the general theme of

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<v Speaker 1>today's because we saw Alissa Healey bowl. I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen her bowling enough and Jake Lemon. We also spoken

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<v Speaker 1>about that famous wicket in the Big Bash getting out

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Watson. I mean, if you're only going to get

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<v Speaker 1>one wicket, you may as well pretty good by someone

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<v Speaker 1>like So I will take it away this week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you've got your own thoughts, but you did it

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<v Speaker 1>last week. So I'll start off with my four and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just put out there on the record. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people might say Matt Renshaw, Travis Head,

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<v Speaker 1>those sort of guys. I think we're seeing the ball

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<v Speaker 1>about the right amount I reckon. Nathan McSweeney is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's under bold. He always seems to get wickets when

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<v Speaker 1>he bowls with his right arm off spin, so I

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<v Speaker 1>like him. Campbell Callaway is someone we might see a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of in the future left arm spin. I

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<v Speaker 1>like what I've seen from him so far, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria have so many options with the ball, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>not getting much of a look at, but there's something there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something there. I found it hard to find meny

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<v Speaker 1>on the women's side of things, just because they've got

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<v Speaker 1>so many great all rounders and you know if you're

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<v Speaker 1>an all rounder, you're going to be a part timer.

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<v Speaker 1>But one who came to mind was act captain Carli Leeson. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>she is a very good medium pace bowler and would

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<v Speaker 1>be considered all round it but she started to bowl

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<v Speaker 1>leg spin as well right this season. So when we

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<v Speaker 1>saw her play Queensland earlier in the year, she would

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<v Speaker 1>bowl leg spin to the right handers and bowl meeting

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<v Speaker 1>pace to the left hand very manusay bit manus bit

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<v Speaker 1>bow Webster webster. So I want to see more of

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<v Speaker 1>Carlie bowl the leg spin because there's definite potential there

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<v Speaker 1>and we love a leg spin. And then my final

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<v Speaker 1>one going back a few years Mike Cussie another one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>medium paces like his Test wickets include Sanga Kara and

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe Teller Cratney Dilshan as well, so he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely had potential. Didn't bowl a lot, but I reckon

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<v Speaker 1>he could get it in the right spot. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>my big four.

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<v Speaker 3>What was Kumara on that day? He's on a few,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't he.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to check it out, but I did like

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<v Speaker 1>his technique he discrediting.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, he's still got I've never got him

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<v Speaker 3>out so it still counts.

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<v Speaker 2>It counts. Yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to love it when Ponting would bowl Damian Mahn. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it almost feel like there should be a little how

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<v Speaker 3>do we get them bowling more because you know it

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<v Speaker 3>is people probably disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd goes up though when man gets.

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<v Speaker 3>Thrown maybe yeah, I guess so. I think it's more

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<v Speaker 3>like when you heap.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a lot. Especially now these captains.

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<v Speaker 3>All the time, it's like bowling first change. It's more

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<v Speaker 3>those those guys who was like once every three years

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<v Speaker 3>you've seen Bolt especially, I think it's more you never

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<v Speaker 3>see guys bowld medium pace, but that a part times,

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<v Speaker 3>It's true. Yeah, so you have a median pace part

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<v Speaker 3>time is yeah, like you're hussy. Yeah, it is pretty rare.

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<v Speaker 2>So did you have any others to mention that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hoddy Wade was a good part time media?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Bold good bouncers hate facing him with the nets.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>The speaker and said he was one hundred and thirty?

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<v Speaker 1>Was he genuinely always had a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Of mayo on that. Was that in the game in

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<v Speaker 2>the top at one thirty in the test match?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. Adrenaline he's like that little bulldog.

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<v Speaker 3>That's incredible. A bit of adrenaline. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Maddison was under has been under used for years,

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<v Speaker 3>even for the thunder this year. I was like he

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<v Speaker 3>should be bowling, like I've had fifteen spinners. But he

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<v Speaker 3>always got There were times at the Renegades when we

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<v Speaker 3>were at our lowest lowest where I would bowl the

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<v Speaker 3>first Sojo Sergio and he'd come to me and said,

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<v Speaker 3>who about the second? I was like, I think you

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<v Speaker 3>should so sorry to the other boys that were playing,

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<v Speaker 3>but he got it done.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're also at your lowest there, but you're also

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<v Speaker 1>at your higher so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I mean, like we Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a young team. Give it to an experienced guy,

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<v Speaker 3>Cam Green in twenty twenty Internationals part time.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't bowl at all, really does he?

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<v Speaker 3>And then all timers Marcus North Oh wow, okay, someone

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<v Speaker 3>in caddag yep, cat yeah put it easily been a

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<v Speaker 3>front liner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember facing him in Sheil Cricket early on. I

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<v Speaker 3>was petrified.

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<v Speaker 2>Right left arm legs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but also just the demeanor of the man. He

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<v Speaker 3>was captain of new so far as angry.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have been fierce and.

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<v Speaker 3>He was bowling because the bowlers weren't getting it done.

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<v Speaker 3>So Tom Cooper was another one actually bbl oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>take the first over for a lots would bowl the

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<v Speaker 3>first over and had a real good knack of getting

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<v Speaker 3>a wicket like a Brendan McCallum, like a big wicket.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd go one for none or none for three or

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<v Speaker 3>and wouldn't bowler fans. But that was some of the

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<v Speaker 3>names I had just in case you didn't get him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I reckon it's a pretty good list.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good, okay, Well, well, were keen to hear our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>It's best part timers as well. I had one Overseasar

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Joe Route, Yeah I had him here too.

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<v Speaker 2>He should have barred more.

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<v Speaker 1>And as just absolute he's a really good bowler and

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<v Speaker 1>probably England's best spinner at the minute.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not sure what they were thinking there, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I do wonder if I always put myself in this situation.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was a really great batsman and the bowlers

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<v Speaker 3>weren't getting it done, I'd be like, I'm not bowling

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<v Speaker 3>because you're That's like me having about three because you

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<v Speaker 3>guys can't make runs. Like that's kind Do you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do. I do, like it shouldn't be to

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<v Speaker 2>your like you know, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm facing Mitchell Stark all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe the backs.

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<v Speaker 3>Last thing I need to be doing ten to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I's a part of that. But I don't know the

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<v Speaker 3>personality you probably wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>Bow There aren't too many batters though who don't love

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<v Speaker 1>to get the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Surely, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Reckon it's one of those things. They say that and

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<v Speaker 3>then they have to start bowling and they're like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is why I put so much time into my batting

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<v Speaker 3>and never practice bowling in the nets or at training.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think it's one of those things that

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<v Speaker 3>sounds good to say, but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good list send them into podcasts at cricket dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot au if you've got some more, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we might read out some of the best options next

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<v Speaker 1>week as well on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So that'll just about do us for this week. I

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<v Speaker 3>reckon rich Od pretty good. It's almost like rain break

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<v Speaker 3>in the cricket that we're just finding content.

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<v Speaker 2>Were we Oh, pretty good?

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we want to lock in who's going to win

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<v Speaker 1>those semi finals so we can come back to it

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<v Speaker 1>next week?

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<v Speaker 2>You go, I'm going to say South Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>England, I'm going to have to say the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, no India.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I just feel like the way of expectation, it

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<v Speaker 3>probably will come back egg on our face. But I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like England just they're quietly somehow we don't like it,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're going under the radar and I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>they're peaking.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not often that we're in a grains so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe you should change my answer there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can lock in whatever you want no, I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>the same right, good stuff, See you next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Josh,