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Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Goodday, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of The Unplaybook Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We've got a.

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Speaker 1: Massive episode coming up for you today with interviews with

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Speaker 1: Matt Short and Jake Lehman to come up on the show.

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Speaker 1: But first let's introduce Kane Richardson, who's back here again.

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Speaker 2: There's every week.

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Speaker 1: Rich Oh, I know it's been a big week for you,

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Speaker 1: and there's some news around Punch the Monkey that I

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Speaker 1: know that's really stirred up to your feelings on the

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Speaker 3: You've completely lost me already five seconds into this you

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Speaker 3: said it's been a big week for me, and I thought,

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Speaker 3: what's happened. I've been sitting on a burro at home

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Speaker 3: for the whole week, So not a big week for you.

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Speaker 2: Not across the Punch the Monkey news.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's move on very quickly into this week's

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Speaker 1: weekly winner. Rich sho you want me to start this

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Speaker 1: week because you always seem to it off, which you should,

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Speaker 1: But this week I'm going to go for the obvious one,

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Speaker 1: Alyssa Healy obviously the retiring grade final. Odi just punches

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Speaker 1: out one hundred and fifty eight of ninety eight deliveries,

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Speaker 1: her highest score in Australia, second highest audio score and

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Speaker 1: I think from a one hundred to fifty and sixteen

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Speaker 1: And she decided to have a trendle as well.

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Speaker 3: That's what I thought you were going to point to first.

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Speaker 3: I thought that would be especially the topic of today's

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Speaker 3: Big four. I don't want to give too much away, but.

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Speaker 2: No, I give it away.

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Speaker 3: We have now, haven't we.

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Speaker 2: That's right?

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Speaker 1: The topic of today's span is part time bowl is

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Speaker 3: So and I assume that came into your mind because

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Speaker 1: There was some rusty coling in there. We'll get to it,

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Speaker 1: but not just one over. Yeah, she went for a

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Speaker 3: One of the wicket didn't Absolutely I reckon she would

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Speaker 3: but again one hundred fifty out of ninety eight four

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Speaker 3: as she said, So she's still got the Test match

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Speaker 3: in this country. So she was one of my weekly winners.

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Speaker 3: It, for everything. Also for staky again in the com

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Speaker 3: on it exactly. He's our man, So we love love

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Speaker 2: It's kind of yeah, yeah, you've.

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Speaker 1: preview of those semifinals very shortly, but after a quick

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Speaker 1: word from our Sponsorible here from Matt Short, who was

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Speaker 1: in Australia's two twenty World Cup squad before the tournament began.

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Speaker 1: He was then left out of the finalize squad that

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Speaker 1: for him. Pleasure to be joined now by Matt Short,

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Speaker 1: who's just slotted back in seamlessly to that Victorian side.

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Speaker 1: They're absolutely flying at the minute. Welcome to the Unplayable podcast. Shorty,

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Speaker 1: thanks mate, thanks having me, no.

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Speaker 1: Great to chat with you all the best this week

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Speaker 1: you all the best this week for the Vix and

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Speaker 1: then yeah, the IPS that that's going to be great fun.

442
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Speaker 1: We hope hopefully to get to see you out in

443
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Speaker 1: the middle for the Super Kings.

444
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, looking forward to it.

445
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Speaker 1: So great to hear from Matt Short, very candid, very

446
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Speaker 1: open and honest there, so we very much thank him

447
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Speaker 1: for his time there. He obviously said he was devastated

448
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Speaker 1: or shatted to miss out on that T twenty World Cup,

449
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Speaker 1: as you would be. And yeah, now he has a

450
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Speaker 1: chance to go back and look at his game and say, well,

451
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Speaker 1: do I want to really focus in on being a

452
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Speaker 1: potential and middle order international player or he said he

453
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Speaker 1: wants to stay at the top and do his thing

454
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Speaker 1: for the Strikers, and that's where he's had all of

455
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Speaker 1: his success, So that makes sense. But then I also

456
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Speaker 1: found it interesting how he said there maybe he wants

457
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Speaker 1: to also consider where his priorities lay and we might

458
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Speaker 1: seem a bit more on the red ball stuff.

459
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Speaker 3: Well, it's an interesting one. He's a by design, a

460
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Speaker 3: casualty of opening the batting purely in the big bash.

461
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Speaker 3: And again you said his success has been because of that,

462
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Speaker 3: but also now it probably makes him and with Steve

463
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Speaker 3: Smith the same Yeah, in the same basket where when

464
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Speaker 3: you get pigeonholed as you can only open the batting

465
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Speaker 3: and be successful. Then it does make you easier to

466
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Speaker 3: be pushed aside for someone who does have adaptability. So

467
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Speaker 3: I don't know going forward. We seem to have this

468
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Speaker 3: all the time with our T twenty team, but all

469
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Speaker 3: the batters when they go back to the big batch

470
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Speaker 3: open the batting and do really well like Marcus Steinis

471
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Speaker 3: did it. He doesn't now, but such a long period

472
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Speaker 3: of time for the Stars was open to the batting

473
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Speaker 3: would get pick to go away for shame with bat six.

474
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Speaker 3: So I think for adaptability purposes, like what Matt Rencha

475
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Speaker 3: has done, it feels like anyone can open the batting,

476
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Speaker 3: but not anyone can be successful. But it is the

477
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Speaker 3: easiest place to bat, so can for selection purposes if

478
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Speaker 3: you want to play for Australia that more middle order.

479
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Speaker 3: He's got all strengths with his bow in terms of bowls,

480
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Speaker 3: part time, spin and field so well. So there is

481
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Speaker 3: more to it than that. But can he show more

482
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Speaker 3: to his ability to bat anywhere in the order because

483
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Speaker 3: he has been thrown in at six for Australia and

484
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Speaker 3: it's so foreign to him. So he did start his

485
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Speaker 3: career at the Strikers. I remember playing his first game

486
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Speaker 3: for the Strikers. He was batting middle order. He made

487
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Speaker 3: sixty or fifty balls and he was a young kid,

488
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Speaker 3: so he can do it. So that's probably something as

489
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Speaker 3: you say, he's got a look at moving forward. But

490
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Speaker 3: also the rebel stuff. Chris Rogers said, he's you know,

491
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Speaker 3: a chance to play for a shower in Test cricket.

492
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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's wrong or right, but you

493
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Speaker 3: know there's a player there as well, so he definitely. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 3: I guess it's going to be a big off season

495
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Speaker 3: for him. He's got IPOL so he's in dependent franchise

496
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Speaker 3: cricket around the world. But yeah, it's going to be

497
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Speaker 3: an interesting time for him going forward.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean his Sheffieldshire numbers are good.

499
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Speaker 1: I think he averages more than forty over the past

500
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Speaker 1: few seasons, so he's definitely got that talent there. And

501
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Speaker 1: I mean the IPL looks like a great opportunity for him.

502
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Speaker 1: If he does manage to get a game for the

503
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Speaker 1: Chennai Super Kings, then obviously they're the conditions that the

504
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Speaker 1: selector's one to see more of him in. And yeah,

505
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Speaker 1: as he sort of touched on in that chat, under

506
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Speaker 1: the guidance of Steven Fleming and Mike Hussy, two pretty

507
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Speaker 1: good players or former players to give him some guidance

508
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Speaker 1: on how to conquer those conditions.

509
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and whether or not he's playing, yeah, a training

510
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Speaker 3: that's going to be the best time to practice those

511
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Speaker 3: things as well. He's also in that weird basket where

512
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Speaker 3: I know full well when you're living in a place

513
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Speaker 3: where you're not playing your cricket, he's going to as

514
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Speaker 3: you get older, he's got a young kid. It actually

515
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Speaker 3: does weigh into your decision making and things. It does

516
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: it becomes harder to keep up with things if you

517
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Speaker 3: don't really want to keep up with them. So, as

518
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Speaker 3: you say, with all this red bull, white ball, you

519
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: know all this stuff, he's got a really big decision

520
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Speaker 3: to make. I think going forward, where you live on

521
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Speaker 3: the Gold Coast, play for Victoria, but if your heart's

522
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Speaker 3: not really in it, very quickly you can you can

523
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Speaker 3: fall back and not want to do it. So, as

524
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Speaker 3: we say, the IPL is going to be great for

525
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Speaker 3: his upskilling, but also going forward, you'll know pretty shortly

526
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Speaker 3: what he wants to do with with this cricket going forward.

527
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he mentioned family a couple of times in

528
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Speaker 1: there as well, So it's obviously playing on his mind.

529
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Speaker 1: One thing that maybe brought back some demons for you

530
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Speaker 1: hearing was that selection chat, getting caught in to select

531
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Speaker 1: a Tony dotta Made's room and having the coach there

532
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Speaker 1: as well. Did that bring back any bad memories for

533
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Speaker 1: you being dropped or left out or unexpectedly not in

534
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Speaker 1: the eleven.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been dropped well like anyone has, but lots,

536
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Speaker 3: but never I'd never been dropped just before a World

537
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Speaker 3: Cup or anything like that. I always I was ready

538
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: for it never happened in that way. I do remember

539
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Speaker 3: one where I went to an ODI tour to India.

540
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Speaker 3: Five games, we got thumped, we didn't have our best

541
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Speaker 3: team but actually did pretty well. And there was a

542
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Speaker 3: home One Day series maybe a month later that I

543
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Speaker 3: got dropped for, and I got dropped for guys who

544
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Speaker 3: did well in the One Day Cup domestic that was

545
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Speaker 3: on whilst we were playing in India. So I remember

546
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Speaker 3: that sticking out and I was like, well, so I

547
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Speaker 3: just did well against India in their own backyard against

548
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Speaker 3: Coali ish Arma, you know, the goats, but you've picked

549
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Speaker 3: guys who did well in the domestic cup at that

550
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: stage that was getting played in Sydney on like suburban ground.

551
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Speaker 3: So everyone's got their selection. You know, cricketers love talking

552
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Speaker 3: about selection how unlucky we were, But that was one

553
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Speaker 3: that stuck out to me that I didn't get sat

554
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Speaker 3: in a room with the coach and the selector was

555
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Speaker 3: over the phone.

556
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Speaker 2: But maybe worse.

557
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Speaker 3: Well, domestic wickets they're worth, they're worth their weight in gold,

558
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Speaker 3: and we won our domestic cricket to mean something. But

559
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: I felt like that was probably not on the same

560
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: scale of weight. So but yeah, there's been plenty. I

561
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Speaker 3: remember getting picked for a World Cup in Jai. Unfortunately

562
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Speaker 3: didn't make the Cup for England. So I was the

563
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Speaker 3: Matte rencher in that situation where oh yeah, literally the

564
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: plane was leaving the day later and I got the call, so.

565
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's good and bad to every story. I

566
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Speaker 1: guess that was twenty nineteen. Yeah, yeah, OK.

567
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Speaker 3: In hindsight, Hazelwood was ready to go as well and

568
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Speaker 3: didn't get picked. So I'll we live with it.

569
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Speaker 2: Now. You got to take the good with the bad,

570
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Speaker 2: don't you.

571
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Speaker 1: Let's go around the grounds end and we did touch

572
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Speaker 1: on the T twenty World Cup right at the start,

573
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Speaker 1: so we've got South Africa taking on New Zealand in Kolkata.

574
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Speaker 1: That's on Wednesday night, so we'll get the results Thursday morning,

575
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Speaker 1: or maybe if you're staying up through the night.

576
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Speaker 2: You'll get it live.

577
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: And then India and then England they play on Thursday

578
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Speaker 1: night in Mumbai, and of course i'd be Friday morning

579
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Speaker 1: when we're waking up to those. South Africa are still unbeaten.

580
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Speaker 1: They've looked fantastic, the Kiwi's, I mean, they're doing nothing wrong,

581
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Speaker 1: are they, But it's going to be very tough to

582
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Speaker 1: be South Africa. They managed to push you aside Zimbabwe

583
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Speaker 1: in the last game, even though they'd left out Robata,

584
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Speaker 1: Yanson and Maharaj.

585
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've done everything right. They've embraced being one of

586
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Speaker 3: the best teams, I think, which is not something they're

587
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: used to in these kind of World Cups. So they've yeah,

588
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: in the last two twenty World Cup and now this

589
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: with the World Test Championship, they've kind of started to

590
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 3: prove themselves in the international stage, cold cutter conditions. So

591
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: that's going to play into it. And you say New

592
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: Zealand haven't done much wrong, they actually were pretty lucky

593
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Speaker 3: to make it through though when they with the groups

594
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Speaker 3: in terms of the table of that for sure, with

595
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Speaker 3: England being such a runaway that everyone's fighting for second

596
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Speaker 3: and they were lucky enough to get there.

597
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Speaker 2: But just net run rate.

598
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Speaker 3: And you can never discount them again, they always just

599
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: seem to punch above, so especially when it comes to

600
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Speaker 3: the business end. So yeah, again two massive games. Is

601
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Speaker 3: the final in a Metabad.

602
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Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

603
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Speaker 3: Yeah, memories there for India, aren't.

604
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Speaker 1: They definitely in this tournament and twenty twenty three World Cup.

605
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: I was wondering if the SAMI was going to be

606
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: there and if they changed that last minute to one moir.

607
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: So yeah again, So Africa, look, they if they if

608
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Speaker 3: they do beat New Zealand like sounds like we all expect,

609
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Speaker 3: then they could be favorites. Adam met Abaud with the

610
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: history of that India have had. Yeah, I'm just purely

611
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: speculating here, but you look at yeah, the two big

612
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: games they've lost there in the last few years, so

613
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Speaker 3: Africa would be.

614
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Speaker 1: No, it's a good point and also because India will

615
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Speaker 1: get there with such great expectation on them if assuming

616
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Speaker 1: they knock have England, which I'm not sure that they're

617
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Speaker 1: guaranteed to do as Pommei and Bangalo said, the England

618
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: really haven't hit their straps yet and they've still made

619
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Speaker 1: it all the way through. But yeah, I reckon given

620
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Speaker 1: that South Africa they look so confident in their game,

621
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Speaker 1: they could go into that match potentially his favorites, but

622
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Speaker 1: with the lesser expectation on them. So that's sort of

623
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Speaker 1: maybe a perfect situation.

624
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Speaker 3: Well, it's similar to the twenty three World Cup, isn't it.

625
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: I remember we flew in that day for that T

626
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Speaker 3: twenty series that was afterwards that's stupid T twenty series.

627
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Speaker 3: But we landed the day of the final and everyone

628
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Speaker 3: in the airport was like, you're going to lose, basically

629
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Speaker 3: like India at home final Metabad. The crowd's going to

630
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Speaker 3: be too much and we didn't know at the time,

631
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Speaker 3: but again, when there's that much expectation that it's just

632
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: going to it's a foegone conclusion. You're playing against really proud, skillful,

633
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: great cricketing nations that are confident in their own change room,

634
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: then anything can happen. So and again, as you say

635
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Speaker 3: about England, most of those guys play IPL so they're

636
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: so well tuned to the conditions. Will Jackson is having

637
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: what a World Cup he's had. He's basically the standout

638
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: player for them. But also you go through their order,

639
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: everyone plays ipl they have done for the last decade.

640
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: They're well in demand in franchise crete, they know T

641
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Speaker 3: twenty crickets so well. So it isn't going to be

642
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: the easy semi final that India will probably hope for.

643
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Speaker 3: And then again, if you get through England and you've

644
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: got this beast in So Africa waiting, so yeah, it's

645
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: going to be interesting.

646
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Speaker 1: And big crowds aren't a factor either. I mean, we

647
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: know India so used to it, but given how much

648
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Speaker 1: of the South African team and the English team play

649
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: in l in front of these huge crowds, well I

650
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: don't think that's really going to be a factor either.

651
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's going to be great to watch. One

652
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: thing that really does annoy me about the Amedabad situation.

653
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Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to go there in twenty twenty three.

654
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: I've seen it firsthand. Everybody says, oh, it's got one

655
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand seats.

656
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: That's just not correct.

657
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: If you go on to their website, the Amedabad Stadium

658
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: website in Nearendromodi Stadium. It says that they've got about

659
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: ninety thousand seats. They got one hundred and twenty thousand

660
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: in there that day because Trump was a special guest,

661
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: and then they had people on the field and so

662
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: they got an extra twenty or thirty. But there's not

663
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand people in the ground for

664
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: a for a cricket match. So I just want to

665
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: get that on the record. I'm not sure it's any

666
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: bigger than the MCJ either, So a bit of Ossie

667
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: pride there maybe, but yeah, there's a bit of maybe

668
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: exaggeration that goes on with they're reporting there.

669
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 3: I reckon, Well, mcg is a big playing surface, so

670
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: maybe we can say MCG holds one hundred.

671
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: I reckon, that's speak it good.

672
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: There you go.

673
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 3: So for the record, that doesn't count. If people are

674
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: standing on the field, that doesn't count. If you can

675
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: get sixty thousand people standing on the grass.

676
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean when we're counting attendances, is all.

677
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: Same, yeah exactly, So yeah, you're right. I think it's

678
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: a good point. I actually haven't played there, but again,

679
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: like you said, the big crowd factor isn't what it

680
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: used to be because again the IPO all these guys

681
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: playing there, but they also play in front of big

682
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: crowds in there, not ninety or one hundred and twenty thousand,

683
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: but they play their domestic T twenty franchise leagues now

684
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: a massive thing. So if anything, the bigger the crowd,

685
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: the batter because it gives you guys a bigger showcase

686
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: to put on their skills and show how good they

687
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: really are.

688
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: And how much desire would there be for this Africans

689
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: knowing how close they came two years ago to one

690
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: to get that title. I mean, yes, they've had that

691
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: World Test Championship victory, a few of them, but a

692
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: few of them you're David Miller's and your Quentin the Cox,

693
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Well they weren't there for that, So there must be

694
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: that desire to finally get that piece of silverwere and

695
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: then they can tick it off and be done with

696
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: that monkey on the back.

697
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: Well absolutely, I think that without knowing for sure, but

698
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: that would be to put yourself in such a strong

699
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: position after the disappointment of that last edition. Is that's

700
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: hard to do. Like, it's obviously what every team wants,

701
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: but to them back up in such emphatic styles to

702
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: this point now it kind of means nothing, but I'm

703
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: no doubt at all that, like you said, some of

704
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: the great cricketers of South Africa, especially in white ball,

705
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: haven't ticked off a trophy, So no doubt whatsoever. That's

706
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: driving and going forward and they've done everything right.

707
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Heading across to the women's side of things, Australia clean

708
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: swept India in the ODI series, which means they've wrapped

709
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: up that multi format series as well with the Test

710
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: match still to play. They were absolutely dominant in this series.

711
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: And I must say after watching that T twenty series

712
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: which India one two to one, I did think, oh wow,

713
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: is this maybe we've got a bit of a changing

714
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: of the guard in Australia. Could this be the time

715
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: that we see Australia finally lose on home soil?

716
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: Not the case. They came back.

717
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: They showed fifty overs is probably their strongest format has

718
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: been for a long time. And yeah, absolutely smashed them

719
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: the other night, didn't they four hundred plus? As you

720
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: touched on Alyssa Heale, Beth Moone, you're getting in another century

721
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was a total dominant display by the

722
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: Aussie girls was.

723
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: I think you're right in thinking that just with you

724
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: Alyssa's time coming to an end, but also as they

725
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: start to progress and get older, what's coming through. I

726
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: know we've talked about breakout plays and stuff, but you

727
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: never know if that's going to translate to the international stage.

728
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: And it's going to be interesting as they go to

729
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: their next tour pretty much straight away after they wrap

730
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: up this home summer, so there is going to be

731
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 3: a transition period with obviously the new captain coming in

732
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: in Sofa. She's dealing with her own injury trouble, so

733
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 3: she's fine for that. But yeah, I think there's enough

734
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: in the cupboard still that they're going to be They're

735
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: going to be fine, And just with the coaching and

736
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: the structures they have set up in this country with

737
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: girls cricket and the grassroots, the pathways and stuff, I

738
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: think I think there's some good times on the horizon still.

739
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: Definitely, we saw a debut for teenager Lucy Hamilton as

740
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: well in that third game. She rolled out in number

741
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: fifty five, Oh nice, which was of course famously worn

742
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: by famously by yourself, Yes, and that did get Mitch

743
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: Stark commenting actually on the broadcast and your name was

744
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: mentioned and he, yeah, gave you a bit.

745
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 3: Is that why because of the number? Yeah?

746
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: Yes, really Lucy? Did she ask permission to didn't wear

747
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: the fifty five.

748
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: There's not a strong lineage of fifty fives in Australian

749
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: white bool cricket. I think Ben Loughlin was before me. Yep,

750
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: I actually changed my number two fifty five. Oh yeah,

751
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: so you've had two. I was forty seven to begin with,

752
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: which wasn't my choice, but there wasn't much available, so

753
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: and yeah, there is this thing in Australian cricket you

754
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: are meant to ask the previous owner of that number,

755
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: and forty seven no one had worn, so I just

756
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: got given that. I think it was my domestic number again,

757
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 3: and I want to fifty five. I took it without

758
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: telling Ben Laughlin and he hadn't played for Trey. It's

759
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: meant to be a two year I think it's two

760
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: year period. It was over two years i'd played b

761
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 3: Ben at Adelaide. I thought he was never played for again.

762
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: He thought he was a good chance. He messaged me

763
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: on that tour. I left it on red never got

764
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 3: back to him. So sorry, Ben, now we're getting stuff

765
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: on the record. Apologies Ben for not asking you for

766
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: fifty five, but Lucy didn't. She didn't need to. I'm

767
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: more than happy for fifty such a good number. Take it.

768
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Why did you want it so badly? Because Ben was

769
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: so good in it?

770
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: Or you know it's I don't know if this is

771
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: well known, but Kenny Powers, the fictional baseball character he's

772
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: bound it out. It's a show. He's like an old

773
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: pitcher who Yeah, it's a story, but his number was

774
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: fifty five, and when I watched his show as a

775
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: twenty year older, I was like, that's my hero. For

776
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: those who know, Kenny Bowers was my inspiration for number

777
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: fifty five. But it is a strong cricketing number. Ben Stokes,

778
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: Koren Pollard, Yeah, yeah, there you go. Players keep and

779
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: I are.

780
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: And now Lucy Hamilton, there's every chance she'll be the

781
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: best of the lot we've seen from her so far.

782
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: Chance. Okay, let's let's talk about some Shefford Shield.

783
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: We do have Jake Cleban coming up to talk about

784
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: being Domestic Cricketer of the Year and also making a

785
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: move to play for Hampshire full time. So stick around

786
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: for that, but firstly, we've only got two rounds of

787
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: the Shield to come rich oh and although the Victoria

788
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: have locked in their spot in the final, there are

789
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: really a couple of teams who could make it as well.

790
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: So we've got Queensland and South Australia are in second

791
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: and third, and then mathematically Tasmania and New South Wales

792
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: can still make it as well from fourth and fifth,

793
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: so it's a nice way to finish the season. This

794
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: week it's Tasmania, Victoria, South Australia's and New South Wales

795
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: and then Queen's Antique on w A. It all starts

796
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: on Thursday, live streams on Cricket dot Com.

797
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: That are you in the c LA app?

798
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: Well, it's a big round, four teams for one spot.

799
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: It probably is going to be after this round you're

800
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 3: going to know, really, aren't we? And there's always results

801
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: like the draws kind of gone unless there's raining a round.

802
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: I feel like every every game is a result in

803
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: three days now, so yeah, we'll get a good idea.

804
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 3: I think I feel like Queensland are in the box

805
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: seat just the way they're playing. They've got w A

806
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: this week. We have struggled this year again, so I

807
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: feel like it is a queens and spot to lose.

808
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 3: But then s a he just can never never counted

809
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: me out, my old my old fellas. So yeah, with

810
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: Kerry back, New South Wales have they have they named

811
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: their squad if we spoke about it last week for

812
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: the One Day Cup. You just never know who's going

813
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: to go rather the Winter or the World Cup. Allies

814
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: that they put on as they flew back, you never know. Well,

815
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: Sean but will be back for them, so they'll be strong.

816
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Travis header will be back for Travis Head.

817
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: I was going to mention his name, but you just

818
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: never know with him. So whether he's got like some

819
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: golf appearance on him, oh of course, somewhere in the world.

820
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: He's got a hole in one to think, so.

821
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can drain puts from forty feet so you

822
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: can do anything.

823
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: You just never know. But also with the management of

824
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: those guys, that's such a big summer with the Ashes

825
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: and the World Cup, so hopefully there is as many

826
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: of those guys back playing as possible.

827
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: With Victoria locked in, Scott Boland is obviously so key

828
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: for them. The word was when he returned after the

829
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: Ashes that he would probably play the final three matches

830
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: of the season. Now though, are you thinking Q and

831
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: the rack for someone like him? He's just so important

832
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: for you.

833
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: He also played five tests indn' he of the Ashes,

834
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: so you don't need thirty six. It needs to be

835
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 3: a management plan. It would be nice for him to

836
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: play every game, but I don't think they need him

837
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 3: to maybe play this one and have Round ten often

838
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: and keep him in Melbourne and get him ready for

839
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 3: what it is a massive game for them, So I

840
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: would know better than us, but I would dare say

841
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: you can miss a game count.

842
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: He's probably he's not going to lose form off missing

843
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: one round.

844
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: I think you could miss a year and get out

845
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: of bed without bowling and still just running the top

846
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: of off, you know, one hundred and twenty times in

847
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: a day and not lose any pace. So yeah, give

848
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: him a game off.

849
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.

850
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: So Queensland they have a zero point nine to five

851
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: point buffer, so less than one point over South Australia.

852
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: We've got the full run home rundown on cricket dot

853
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: Com DoD a use if you want to see where

854
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: every state is landing ahead of Thursday's round nine. Get

855
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: on there and check it out. Let's have a quick

856
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: word from our sponsors. Then when we come back we'll

857
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: hear from Jake Lehman. Join now on the Unplayable Podcast

858
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: by the Men's Domestic Cricketer of the Year Jake Leman.

859
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast mate. How's it all going over

860
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: there in Adelaide.

861
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: No, thanks for having me.

862
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 5: It's it's an enjoyable time in adelade at the moment

863
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: and some good cricket to hopefully finish the year.

864
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: Was it a surprise to be named the Domestic Cricketer

865
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: of the Year.

866
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: I knew that I had had a pretty good calendar

867
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 5: year overall, but yeah, I guess when it's voted by

868
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: your peers and people that you play against and probably

869
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 5: some of the players that I look up to too

870
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 5: along the way as well. To get the recognition over

871
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 5: some other players that magnificent years as well is probably

872
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 5: something special at all look back on.

873
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: For sure.

874
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: I was looking through your stats and six of your

875
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: fifteen Sheffield Chield hundreds have come in the past two seasons,

876
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: so it's been a real goal and run. What do

877
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: you sort of put that down to? Is something changed

878
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: or is something clicked that wasn't there before.

879
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 5: I just think there's a multiple, like a multiple things

880
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: that have kind of come together. I think, you know,

881
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 5: Ryan Harrison taking over as coach has probably freed me

882
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 5: up and probably gave me a few home trills about

883
00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: what to do, probably a slight changing technique with Stevens

884
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: others and a few other batting coaches around how I

885
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 5: want to play my cricket and then probably lastly just

886
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 5: going back to enjoying it and you know, playing cricket

887
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 5: for the right reason, right reason and just trying to

888
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 5: enjoy every moment and every game and try and do

889
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: the right thing for the team and play for you

890
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: with a smile on my face, which has been highly enjoyable.

891
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 5: And you know it's probably come with a few wins

892
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 5: along the way. And last year was awesome for South Australia.

893
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 5: So yeah, a combination of things, but yeah, it's all

894
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 5: kind of trended in the right direction late in my career.

895
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.

896
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: Would you say that there was a period there where

897
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: you just weren't enjoying cricketer? Is that sort of maybe

898
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: why you've been able to recognize that you really are

899
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: enjoying it now.

900
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 5: I just think at times, you know, I think throughout

901
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: my career at Soustralia, we probably rode some highs pretty

902
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: early when I was younger and didn't quite get an

903
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 5: overall win, and there was some low lows I think

904
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: as a team and trying to lead players through that

905
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 5: period and trying to come out the other side of that.

906
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: Probably I wouldn't say that I love cricket.

907
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: I will always love cricket, but probably didn't realize how

908
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: much of a toll it takes on you mentally to

909
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 5: try and stay upbeat and stay positive and you know,

910
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 5: try and keep driving that team forward.

911
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: So probably just a few of those.

912
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 5: Pressures released and you know you're rocking up and training

913
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: and you're just focusing on yourself and what you have

914
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: to do to prepare to to play well.

915
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: And I think that's really threwed me up again. Now.

916
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure one of your career highlights must have been

917
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: that sho Would Final last year. You got that century

918
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: in the first innings and obviously it was a drought

919
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: breaking victory. Can you take us back to that match?

920
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: And now that we're nearly a year on, has has

921
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: it sunk in that you were part of history for

922
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: your state.

923
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was an awesome day. You know,

924
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 5: it was an awesome year to be honest with you.

925
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 5: I think we continue to build it all year and

926
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: we played probably the best cricket were probably were the

927
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 5: best team all year. So it was just one of

928
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 5: those rewards for you know a lot of hard work

929
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 5: over probably like the three or four years before that,

930
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 5: like I was saying, from all the boys and everything

931
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 5: just kind of clicked and you know, to see to

932
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 5: see Karen Rolton the way it was and to see

933
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 5: everyone rock up and you know give back to South

934
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 5: Australian cricket for what's given us over the last little beer.

935
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 5: That was probably the proudest moment from me saying all

936
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 5: the family and friends and all the staff and the

937
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 5: background and you know, all the past players that have

938
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 5: tried their best to over this period of time to

939
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 5: recreate that.

940
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: So just the whole area of it was awesome.

941
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 5: And you know at the moment, you know, we've just

942
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 5: kind of missed out on the one day final making that,

943
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 5: so you know that's the probably first kicking teef we've

944
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 5: kind of as a team and probably driving us in

945
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 5: these last couple of rounds to try and put some

946
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 5: really good performance on the board and make sure we're

947
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 5: playing in that Shield final against Victoria.

948
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean a century in a winning Shield

949
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: final though. That's the stuff of dreams, isn't it. Is

950
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: that as good as it gets in terms of being

951
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: a domestic player.

952
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's one thing I always get compared

953
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 5: to my old man, so I'm happy to bring this

954
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: one up.

955
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: But I don't think he has one of them.

956
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 5: So you know, there's not many things that I that

957
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 5: I can beat him at statistically wise, but that's one

958
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 5: of them.

959
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was just awesome.

960
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 5: I think the game situation and where the game was heading,

961
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: and you know, the form leading and I'd probably been

962
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 5: consistently doing that in those situations, so to do it

963
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 5: in you know, the Shefferdsfield Final of all places, is

964
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 5: something that you can look back on and go like,

965
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 5: you know, I was ready and I performed in you know,

966
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 5: one of the toughest, high pressure games.

967
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. Yeah.

968
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: Now we heard a month or so ago that you're

969
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: going to be taking up a contract with Hampshire as

970
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: a local player. I believe you've got a British passport,

971
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: So can you talk us through how that deal sort

972
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: of came about and what it means for your cricket now.

973
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an opportunity that we've been probably looking at

974
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 5: for the last couple of years and just trying to

975
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 5: explore the opportunity for me to continue to play cricket

976
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 5: and continue to branch out and try new things.

977
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: So, yeah, my mum was.

978
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 5: Actually fully British born, She's a British citizen. So I've

979
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 5: had the British passport and been over and played for

980
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 5: Yorkshire and Lancashire before using the passport. So you know,

981
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 5: it was just a cool that kind of came out

982
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 5: of the blue, and it was an opportunity that I

983
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 5: wanted to jump out and take with both hands.

984
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: And lucky enough that Soccer Soccer.

985
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 5: Have supported it to be able to come back, can

986
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 5: play another year here, and you know, just I just

987
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 5: want to keep learning and keep going and keep spreading,

988
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 5: spreading my love for the game of cricket.

989
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: Why it's going well. So I'm super excited to get over.

990
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 5: There and Giles and the staff and all the players

991
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 5: over there. I'm excited to make them and hopefully have

992
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: an impact and make them a better cricket team.

993
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah right, So I mean, as you said, you've been

994
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: over there and played before, but this was an approach

995
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: that they made to you. Was that they put on

996
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: the table and said come over here and and be

997
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: a local player for us.

998
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: Yeah we've been, We've been reaching in and seeing if

999
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 5: anyone was keen also, So I was definitely a two

1000
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 5: way street and you know, conversations that probably hadn't previously.

1001
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: This probably didn't What.

1002
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 5: The timing wasn't quite right was you know, I've got

1003
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 5: two young kids and you know the ability to travel

1004
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 5: over there and all these small little things that come up.

1005
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 5: So the timing was probably right for me as a

1006
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 5: player and as a person in my life situation. So yeah,

1007
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 5: I jumped at it with both hands.

1008
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: What do you think you want to achieve from this

1009
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: new role? I suppose Yeah.

1010
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 5: Like I said, I want to make Hampshire a better

1011
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: team first and foremost, and the goal is to keep

1012
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 5: winning stuff. I think at my age now there you

1013
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 5: know what drives me is trying to win county championships

1014
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 5: or the one Days or the Blast or Sheffield Shields.

1015
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 5: That's kind of what I've turned My focus to is

1016
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 5: trying to win as many games as I can. And

1017
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 5: you know, what do you remember players for? And it's

1018
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: probably the players that win stuff probably get recognized the

1019
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 5: most at the back end of their career once they're gone.

1020
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 5: So they're the things that I've really tried to achieve

1021
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 5: and hopefully that's something that I can do.

1022
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: And on the flip side of that.

1023
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 5: Hopefully I can learn some stuff that they do over

1024
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 5: there a little bit different to what I could do,

1025
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 5: and hopefully I can bring that back here and implement

1026
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 5: that also and makes southtral a better cricket team when

1027
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 5: I get bad.

1028
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was going to ask, does this mean

1029
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: that you'll now be playing as an overseas player for

1030
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: South Australia or is that a conversation you've had with

1031
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: the SAKA.

1032
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it would mean that I would have to play

1033
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 5: as an overseas players.

1034
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that looks a little bit different.

1035
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 5: But I know there's a few few players in the

1036
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 5: past that have done and Mark Cosgrove's done it before.

1037
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: You know, we've had boats do it over here. We've

1038
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 5: had Charlie Henphy up in Queensland. I think he did it.

1039
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 5: I think Sam Whiteman's going to do it as well,

1040
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 5: so it's not uncommon, but it's just probably not as

1041
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 5: put out there is as much as other things.

1042
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and well you're old man. You mentioned him before,

1043
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: but he'll be coaching over there again again this season,

1044
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: won't he.

1045
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: So will you be facing it? Are you in the

1046
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: same division?

1047
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 5: No, they're in Division two and Hampshire and Division one,

1048
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 5: so I don't think we actually have any scheduled games

1049
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 5: against them unless we see them in a in a

1050
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 5: finals game somewhere along the line.

1051
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: Okay, no doubt your part will cross at some point,

1052
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: as you touched on New South Wales and Victoria to

1053
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: finish the season for you guys here in the Sheffield Shield,

1054
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: going for back to back, probably going to need to

1055
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: win both of those games. What's the mood around those

1056
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: around the group at the minute in terms of yeah,

1057
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: making that final and taking on the vis in the decider.

1058
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1059
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 5: Like I said, I think the Queensland Shield game for

1060
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 5: us was a really good step forward, playing some really

1061
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: good cricket and then on the back of that then

1062
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 5: we we've got that little kicking the taste for not

1063
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 5: being able to make that one day Final. So the

1064
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 5: drive is definitely there from the playing group and I

1065
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 5: feel like hopefully in the last two games we'll have

1066
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 5: a pretty strong squad with some player availability coming back

1067
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 5: so from from the World Cup, which which will be

1068
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 5: awesome to strengthen and hopefully this week is a massive

1069
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 5: game against New South Wales. You know they're fighting for

1070
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 5: a spot and they're playing in the One day Final,

1071
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 5: so that they've got things to prove and you know

1072
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 5: they're playing some good, strong cricket as well.

1073
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: So but the thing is is still probably up to.

1074
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 5: Us and it's on our terms and that's that's one

1075
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 5: thing that we want to continue going into the last round.

1076
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 5: We want it to be us needing to win or

1077
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 5: us needing to get the points that we want. We

1078
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 5: don't want to rely on any results. So this week

1079
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 5: is probably massive for us.

1080
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: And one of those guys coming back from the World

1081
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: couple we Ben Menenti. How cool is it to see

1082
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: a teammate to go about their business on the world stage.

1083
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you've got Travis Head and Alex Carey

1084
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: who do it so much for Australia, but this is

1085
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a different one for Italy.

1086
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, just that just shows you

1087
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 5: how good cricket can be and how you know a

1088
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 5: different path to get to the highest level. And the

1089
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 5: play a T twenty World Cup in India is something

1090
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 5: that you're probably not going to get to do in March,

1091
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 5: and for him to do it with his hurry's brother

1092
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 5: and a couple of his best mates and you know

1093
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 5: everyone back here we were watching every every game.

1094
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: You know, you.

1095
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 5: Probably weren't sure if they're going to win or not,

1096
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 5: but you know, he went out there and I think

1097
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 5: he was the most influential impact player of the mine around,

1098
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 5: so you know, the support was there and it just

1099
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 5: shows you how you know, if you if you get

1100
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 5: these opportunities to perform against England, and you know, it

1101
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 5: would have been.

1102
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: Cooled to probably see Italy play Australia.

1103
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 5: That would have been great if heat he was boln

1104
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 5: ben he was boling a heavy or something that.

1105
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was just it was.

1106
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 5: Really cool to see and proud of the way that

1107
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 5: they probably carry themselves.

1108
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: Mostly Yeah, absolutely, yeah, they did really well and no

1109
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: doubt we'll see them again. I was just looking back

1110
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: through your record. Obviously you've played for the SAKA for

1111
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: ten years now and ten years ago in your third

1112
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: Shield match a double century against Tasmania. What do you

1113
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: member is like that much? Because yeah, amazing to be

1114
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: to pull off such a big scorer, so really in

1115
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: your career.

1116
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a long time ago now, but you know,

1117
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 5: it was one of those things when you're probably a

1118
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 5: little bit younger and you're taking things for a little

1119
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 5: bit of a little bit granted, but I do remember

1120
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 5: one moment of that game. I think, you know, we're

1121
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 5: I think we're three for fifty odd and I battered

1122
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 5: all day with Callen Ferguson. We were getting close to

1123
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 5: the end of the day and they took the new

1124
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 5: ball and I think, I think I would have been

1125
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 5: on one hundred and sixty, one hundred and seventy or

1126
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 5: something like that, and I started to.

1127
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: Get a bit loose and a bit of carry on.

1128
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 5: You know, I thought of done my job, and I

1129
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 5: just remember further like pure my head, and he goes,

1130
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 5: we've got something amazing to do here. We get through

1131
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 5: the night, we get through this new ball. You know,

1132
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 5: we could boys get double hundreds tomorrow night. You know,

1133
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 5: it was just one thing that I was like, all right,

1134
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 5: I'm going to remember that because you know, it was

1135
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 5: a way that someone else can help you at the

1136
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 5: other end, help the team, don't expose anyone else that night.

1137
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 5: You know, all those small little team fundamentals came into

1138
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 5: that moment. So yeah, that's one thing I do remember

1139
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 5: of it, and it was a bit of It was

1140
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 5: a bit of a run fast enough. I think George

1141
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 5: Bailey got a hundred. I think Ben Dunk got a hundred,

1142
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 5: but we won. So yeah, it was one of the

1143
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 5: one of the good wins that we had during that

1144
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 5: early part of my career.

1145
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: Mate, you shouldn't be telling people was a run fast.

1146
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: You should be telling people it was an absolute mindfield

1147
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: and you've got two hundred.

1148
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 4: Now.

1149
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: I also wanted to ask because we had Alex Carey.

1150
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: He was on the Big Bash Surge podcast during the

1151
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: Big Bash season and he mentioned his Big Bash debut

1152
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: for the Strikers involved you. You were there in that

1153
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: match and you got the wicked of Shane Watson in

1154
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: that match. I just wanted to get good memories of

1155
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: getting out the Great Wadow.

1156
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1157
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 5: Out of all the stories that I probably tell over

1158
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 5: my Big Beast journey, it's probably the one that I

1159
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 5: bring up the most. That's probably the reason is remembered

1160
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 5: it is because I've probably said it fifty times.

1161
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I loved that it was.

1162
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 5: It was at that time I was trying to bowl

1163
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 5: a little bit more, but my bowling wasn't that great.

1164
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 5: But I was trying to find a way to contribute

1165
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 5: to the games in T twenty cricket. And you know

1166
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 5: the wicket was wasn't that great. I think It's Shorely

1167
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 5: had got like six for eight.

1168
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: Or something like that.

1169
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 5: It was spinning and I bowl I bowled a pretty

1170
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 5: bad ball and what I hit it straight up and

1171
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 5: Benny Carter and Jason Sanger that's come across. He was

1172
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 5: actually at the Thunder at the time and he reckons

1173
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 5: it's one of what those biggest bloops that he's ever

1174
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 5: And yeah, he probably doesn't remember it, but I definitely do.

1175
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: Oh mate, that's definitely something to hang your hat on.

1176
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: I mean, forget about winning the Sheffield Jill though, mean

1177
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: you've got Shane Watson out in a big best game.

1178
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: So that's it.

1179
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: Awesome mate. Well, really appreciate your time. All the best

1180
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season and good luck over

1181
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: there in England Ham she I hope it goes well

1182
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, hopefully you set a new legacy over there

1183
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: in the UK.

1184
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: No, thank you very much.

1185
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: So the domestic Cricketer of the Year Jake Leman. What

1186
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: a purple patch he's been in. Obviously, there was a

1187
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: lot of talent at the start of his career, as

1188
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: I mentioned to him, a double century in his third

1189
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: match ever.

1190
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: But just the last couple of years he's just been

1191
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 2: on another level.

1192
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: I think it was four matches in a row he

1193
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: got a century at the end of last season, including

1194
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: in the final. Talk about big, big game player and

1195
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 1: peaking at the right time as well. That's so important,

1196
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: isn't it.

1197
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 3: Well, it's such an amazing story for his agent. It

1198
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: was halfway through last year. I think he was probably

1199
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 3: treading water, looking like it was the end of it,

1200
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: to be honest, and he would probably admit that I

1201
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: don't know if you did in that chart. I don't

1202
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: think he did. But and I remember even my time

1203
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: then when I left, I still felt he was you

1204
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: know that guy, he's just on the edge over thirty,

1205
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 3: not going to play for Australia at this point. It's

1206
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: just such an like it's a famous name in South

1207
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 3: stra cricket. But I felt like his time was coming

1208
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden he's just gone to

1209
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: career best form. So happy because he's one of the

1210
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: great guys in the room, Like he's so universally liked

1211
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 3: in this Australia wide love like no one has a

1212
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: bad way to say about him. He's a great fellow,

1213
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 3: great team man, super professional, does everything right. But to

1214
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: also just get a trophy again famous name is South

1215
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: Australian cricket to follow on that lineage of Darren but

1216
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: do it his own way now as well. Like he's

1217
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: he's There's just you can't say too many good things

1218
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: about him because it is such an amazing turnaround to

1219
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: win Domestic Player of the Year. Now have a gig

1220
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: lined up with Hamshare.

1221
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

1222
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: Thirty three, thirty four, whatevery years. He's in the best

1223
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: nick of his life. So yeah, I don't know what

1224
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 3: else to say other than he's just it's probably been

1225
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: ten years of really hard graft and on the edge

1226
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: a performance here, performance there. All of a sudden you

1227
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: just shows you can never give up on people because

1228
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: you just never know what's around the corner. So yeah,

1229
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: super proud of him. Is yeah, as I've said, a

1230
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: great fella, one of the great team guys, celebrates everyone's

1231
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: success even if you know he doesn't perform. I remember

1232
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: that two hundred actually as well. I wasn't there, but

1233
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: I remember speaking to George Bailey, I think he was

1234
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: captain of Tasmania and I messaged him that night and

1235
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: I said, like to talk to me and he goes,

1236
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: it's almost as if our bowlers didn't know the cut

1237
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: shot existed. So we bowled there all day and at

1238
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: that stage with Jake Lehman's career, that's literally that's all

1239
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 3: he had was a cut shot. Yeah, and he hit

1240
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: two hundred runs with a cut shot, and George was

1241
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: just scratching his head thinking it's like these guys just

1242
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: wanted to keep seeing this new shot that had been

1243
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 3: invented that day, so they kept bowling there. But yeah,

1244
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: I mean he was on the edge of Australian selection.

1245
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 3: He was spoken about after that. Yeah, he was in

1246
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: Australia a selection as a young early twenties kid. And then,

1247
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: as I said, that kind of dip came and then

1248
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: he was treading water. So yeah, amazing story.

1249
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: And the cuts shot still a strength of him, yeah,

1250
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: of course, but.

1251
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: Well and talking about that though, like it's funny because

1252
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: he's it's still such a strong sholt of his and guys,

1253
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: I remember when we'd come up against Victoria, we'd have

1254
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 3: Head and Leman in the middle order and they would

1255
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 3: literally bowl cut shots but put it was like the

1256
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: old Damian Martin field where you bowled his strength, but

1257
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 3: put all the field in there. Put in. They put

1258
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: in like four slips, two gullies catching point deep point,

1259
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: So they're like, if you want to play it, you

1260
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: might get a single for it. We also think you're

1261
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: gonna nick it. So it's amazing, like you can have

1262
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: success now as you get older and everyone knows your

1263
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: game that well. But he's almost evolved. He's added again

1264
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: upskill just out of different areas. He's never going to

1265
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: lose a cut shot as a strength. But it just

1266
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 3: shows like I don't know, people can plan for you

1267
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 3: for so long and I think they've got it all

1268
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: worked out, there's still ways you can get better and

1269
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 3: keep performing well.

1270
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: David Seka, who was bowling coach of England during the Ashes,

1271
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,479
Speaker 1: he actually mentioned that plan that they had the vis

1272
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: back in the data Travis hid and they tried it

1273
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: a bit during the Ashes series.

1274
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: Might work out so well.

1275
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: With mysteries, better now than when he was that young

1276
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: South Australian captain because they played on ego a bit

1277
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: as well, and again we were a young group and

1278
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: Heeddy was like a twenty two year old captain who

1279
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: wasn't thinking a lot and probably still doesn't. But after

1280
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 3: probably ten balls of Scott Bowland bowling it out there,

1281
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: he just would chase one in nick it.

1282
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: You know.

1283
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: I guess that's probably why it becomes such a good

1284
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: player now, is those those domestic battles against Cam White,

1285
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: who's such an amazing cricket brain, you know, going through

1286
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 3: that stuff again, he's preparing these guys for future success

1287
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: and that's again showed in Limo and Hetty's case.

1288
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Limo talked about, you know, falling out of

1289
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: love of the game a bit there as well, which

1290
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: is totally understandable when you're not making runs and South

1291
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: Australia weren't winning a lot of games in the Shield

1292
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: through that period either, So great to see him come

1293
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: back and obviously rEFInd that love and then under Bryan

1294
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: Harris's leadership. They've become a real force again. So things

1295
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: can turn around very quickly in this game.

1296
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think the other thing he dealt with he

1297
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 3: was the older guy where before I left, But then

1298
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: after that, you know, Chad Say has left, Joe Mani,

1299
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: Tom Cooper, Callum Ferguson probably missing someone in there. But

1300
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 3: Adam Zamper so a lot of older guys that he

1301
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: was mates with and friends with Ashley left and all

1302
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: of a sudden he was hanging out with really young

1303
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: guys Alex Cary, who they're really good mates, but he

1304
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 3: was off playing for austral All of a sudden, it

1305
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 3: can become quite a foreign place. You've got all these

1306
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: guys coming from into state. So saying he fell out

1307
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 3: of love with the game isn't surprising because it probably

1308
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 3: didn't feel like the change room that he used to

1309
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 3: be in. All of a sudden, you've got these new

1310
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: guys coming in. But then all of a sudden you

1311
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 3: grow with that. Alex Cary comes back, you're in a

1312
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: shill final, new coach comes in that you love. So yeah,

1313
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: it's a great story of perseverance and again, as I said,

1314
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 3: a great team man so well deserved.

1315
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: And now he's going to have to play as an

1316
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: overseas player, yeah for his home state, which must be

1317
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: such a weird situation to be in. But he's signed

1318
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: a two year deal with Hampshire to play as a

1319
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: local player. As he touched on, his mother is British

1320
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: and passport, so that's a fun, new, exciting opportunity. I mean,

1321
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: Jacob thirty four in in June or July in mid

1322
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: this year, so I guess he's thinking about his future

1323
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: and setting himself up for his family. And we've also

1324
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: heard that Sam Weiman is going to do the same thing,

1325
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: so maybe it's something that will start to see a

1326
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: bit more of from the AUSSI guys.

1327
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: What's a good option to have If you have the option,

1328
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 3: like we just saw ben an Ency go play a

1329
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: World Cup for Italy, So if you've got the option

1330
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: with a passport to go play more cricket, and it's

1331
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 3: not like, guys, they're going to look at them differently

1332
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 3: in the change room and they come back because they're

1333
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 3: an overseas player. Maybe they should have to wear an

1334
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 3: armband or like a different colored number as like an

1335
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 3: Alpha status, but a different helmet, different helmet. Yeah, they

1336
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 3: got to wear their county helmet, but put some tape

1337
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 3: over it or something. But it's they're going to be

1338
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: welcome back. It's no one cares that they're an overseas player.

1339
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1340
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: Like so to get the option to go play county cricket.

1341
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: His dad's got such a strong history in the county game.

1342
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 3: Guys used to do it all the time, didn't they

1343
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 3: back in that era where they'd go over there and

1344
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: make a thousand runs every every winter. So it's almost

1345
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 3: nice that we're seeing guys do that again more. And

1346
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 3: then also to have overseas players come back and play

1347
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: Shield cricket because that used to be a more common

1348
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: thing that it is now. We haven't had an overseas

1349
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 3: playing the Shield for a long time. So yeah, more

1350
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 3: cricket the battle.

1351
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: I know that the English fans aren't super happy with

1352
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: the situation that we have that it seems like the

1353
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: Aussies can go over freely and then when an English

1354
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: play wants to come over here and play, it's a

1355
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: lot of a harder process to work out. But you

1356
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: know that's we've only got six states, so it's not

1357
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: like we've got heaps of spots to fill over here.

1358
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 3: But still if Joe Root rang Queensland tomorrow, it's like,

1359
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: I want to come play Shield next year. Do you

1360
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 3: think they're going to say no?

1361
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: They'd make it work.

1362
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 3: They'd make it work. So I know Jake Gleaman and

1363
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: Sam Wyman aren't Joe Rude, but it's still at that point.

1364
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 3: If someone's going to want to come and make your

1365
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 3: team better and it's going to help their development but

1366
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 3: also going to help the players around so it's benefit

1367
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: for everyone, then I'm sure people would listen. So like

1368
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: Andy Flower used to do it for the South Australia.

1369
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: Remember Unis cahn't did it?

1370
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: Did you play with Unice?

1371
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: I didn't play with him, but I was training and

1372
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: the things guys learned from him at training, like that's

1373
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 3: the valuable experience that you draw from that and we

1374
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 3: see it all the time in the Big Bash. So

1375
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: that argument doesn't really apply to T twenty cricket, but

1376
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: it does for Fordy cricket. I don't think it should

1377
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 3: because it makes people better and I'm sure Jake part

1378
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 3: of his deal is that when he goes to Hampshire

1379
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: he's got a bit of a duty to you know,

1380
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: the young kids coming through at Hampshire. He's going to

1381
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 3: help you, provide them with opportunities to get better as well.

1382
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: So this is how to play the cut shot.

1383
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: Well yeah, maybe they haven't discovered the cut shot like

1384
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: Tasmania hadn't that day. So I think this benefit for everyone.

1385
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 3: So I think those people that get their nose out

1386
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 3: of joints probably not right.

1387
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: So, as we touched on the Big Four, this week

1388
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: is going to be part time bowlers, part time balls

1389
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: who should be bowling more. That's the general theme of

1390
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: today's because we saw Alissa Healey bowl. I think we've

1391
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: seen her bowling enough and Jake Lemon. We also spoken

1392
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: about that famous wicket in the Big Bash getting out

1393
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: Shane Watson. I mean, if you're only going to get

1394
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: one wicket, you may as well pretty good by someone

1395
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: like So I will take it away this week. I'm

1396
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: sure you've got your own thoughts, but you did it

1397
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: last week. So I'll start off with my four and

1398
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: I'll just put out there on the record. I think

1399
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people might say Matt Renshaw, Travis Head,

1400
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: those sort of guys. I think we're seeing the ball

1401
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: about the right amount I reckon. Nathan McSweeney is someone

1402
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: who's under bold. He always seems to get wickets when

1403
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: he bowls with his right arm off spin, so I

1404
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: like him. Campbell Callaway is someone we might see a

1405
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: bit more of in the future left arm spin. I

1406
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: like what I've seen from him so far, and I mean,

1407
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: Victoria have so many options with the ball, so he's

1408
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 1: not getting much of a look at, but there's something there.

1409
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: There's something there. I found it hard to find meny

1410
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: on the women's side of things, just because they've got

1411
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: so many great all rounders and you know if you're

1412
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: an all rounder, you're going to be a part timer.

1413
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: But one who came to mind was act captain Carli Leeson. Now,

1414
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: she is a very good medium pace bowler and would

1415
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: be considered all round it but she started to bowl

1416
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: leg spin as well right this season. So when we

1417
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: saw her play Queensland earlier in the year, she would

1418
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: bowl leg spin to the right handers and bowl meeting

1419
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: pace to the left hand very manusay bit manus bit

1420
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: bow Webster webster. So I want to see more of

1421
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: Carlie bowl the leg spin because there's definite potential there

1422
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: and we love a leg spin. And then my final

1423
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: one going back a few years Mike Cussie another one. Yeah,

1424
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: medium paces like his Test wickets include Sanga Kara and

1425
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: I think maybe Teller Cratney Dilshan as well, so he

1426
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: definitely had potential. Didn't bowl a lot, but I reckon

1427
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: he could get it in the right spot. So that's

1428
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: my big four.

1429
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 3: What was Kumara on that day? He's on a few,

1430
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 3: wasn't he.

1431
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1432
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: I have to check it out, but I did like

1433
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: his technique he discrediting.

1434
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, he's still got I've never got him

1435
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 3: out so it still counts.

1436
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: It counts. Yeah, I did.

1437
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 3: Used to love it when Ponting would bowl Damian Mahn. Yeah,

1438
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 3: it almost feel like there should be a little how

1439
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 3: do we get them bowling more because you know it

1440
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: is people probably disagree.

1441
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: The crowd goes up though when man gets.

1442
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: Thrown maybe yeah, I guess so. I think it's more

1443
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: like when you heap.

1444
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: Was a lot. Especially now these captains.

1445
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 3: All the time, it's like bowling first change. It's more

1446
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 3: those those guys who was like once every three years

1447
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: you've seen Bolt especially, I think it's more you never

1448
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: see guys bowld medium pace, but that a part times,

1449
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: It's true. Yeah, so you have a median pace part

1450
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 3: time is yeah, like you're hussy. Yeah, it is pretty rare.

1451
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: So did you have any others to mention that.

1452
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 3: Hoddy Wade was a good part time media?

1453
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1454
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 3: Bold good bouncers hate facing him with the nets.

1455
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: I know that.

1456
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: The speaker and said he was one hundred and thirty?

1457
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: Was he genuinely always had a bit.

1458
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: Of mayo on that. Was that in the game in

1459
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: the top at one thirty in the test match?

1460
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. Adrenaline he's like that little bulldog.

1461
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: That's incredible. A bit of adrenaline. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me.

1462
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: Nick Maddison was under has been under used for years,

1463
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: even for the thunder this year. I was like he

1464
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: should be bowling, like I've had fifteen spinners. But he

1465
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: always got There were times at the Renegades when we

1466
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 3: were at our lowest lowest where I would bowl the

1467
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 3: first Sojo Sergio and he'd come to me and said,

1468
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: who about the second? I was like, I think you

1469
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 3: should so sorry to the other boys that were playing,

1470
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 3: but he got it done.

1471
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: But you're also at your lowest there, but you're also

1472
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: at your higher so.

1473
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, like we Yeah, there

1474
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: was a young team. Give it to an experienced guy,

1475
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 3: Cam Green in twenty twenty Internationals part time.

1476
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 2: He doesn't bowl at all, really does he?

1477
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: And then all timers Marcus North Oh wow, okay, someone

1478
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 3: in caddag yep, cat yeah put it easily been a

1479
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 3: front liner.

1480
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1481
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 3: I remember facing him in Sheil Cricket early on. I

1482
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 3: was petrified.

1483
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: Right left arm legs.

1484
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also just the demeanor of the man. He

1485
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 3: was captain of new so far as angry.

1486
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: He would have been fierce and.

1487
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: He was bowling because the bowlers weren't getting it done.

1488
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 3: So Tom Cooper was another one actually bbl oh yeah,

1489
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: take the first over for a lots would bowl the

1490
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 3: first over and had a real good knack of getting

1491
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: a wicket like a Brendan McCallum, like a big wicket.

1492
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 3: He'd go one for none or none for three or

1493
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 3: and wouldn't bowler fans. But that was some of the

1494
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 3: names I had just in case you didn't get him.

1495
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 3: But I reckon it's a pretty good list.

1496
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,959
Speaker 1: That's good, okay, Well, well, were keen to hear our listeners.

1497
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: It's best part timers as well. I had one Overseasar

1498
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: as well.

1499
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Route, Yeah I had him here too.

1500
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: He should have barred more.

1501
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: And as just absolute he's a really good bowler and

1502
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: probably England's best spinner at the minute.

1503
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what they were thinking there, but.

1504
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 3: I do wonder if I always put myself in this situation.

1505
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: If I was a really great batsman and the bowlers

1506
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 3: weren't getting it done, I'd be like, I'm not bowling

1507
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 3: because you're That's like me having about three because you

1508
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 3: guys can't make runs. Like that's kind Do you know

1509
01:09:58,960 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: what I'm saying?

1510
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I do, like it shouldn't be to

1511
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: your like you know, it's hard.

1512
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 3: I'm facing Mitchell Stark all the time.

1513
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the backs.

1514
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 3: Last thing I need to be doing ten to fifteen.

1515
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 3: I's a part of that. But I don't know the

1516
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 3: personality you probably wanted to.

1517
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: Bow There aren't too many batters though who don't love

1518
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: to get the ball.

1519
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: Surely, Yeah, I.

1520
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 3: Reckon it's one of those things. They say that and

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Speaker 3: then they have to start bowling and they're like, this

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Speaker 3: is why I put so much time into my batting

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Speaker 3: and never practice bowling in the nets or at training.

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01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's one of those things that

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01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 3: sounds good to say, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good list send them into podcasts at cricket dot

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Speaker 1: com dot au if you've got some more, And yeah,

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01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: we might read out some of the best options next

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01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: week as well on the show.

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Speaker 3: So that'll just about do us for this week. I

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01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: reckon rich Od pretty good. It's almost like rain break

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Speaker 3: in the cricket that we're just finding content.

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Speaker 2: Were we Oh, pretty good?

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Do we want to lock in who's going to win

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01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: those semi finals so we can come back to it

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Speaker 1: next week?

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Speaker 2: You go, I'm going to say South Africa.

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01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 3: England, I'm going to have to say the same.

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Speaker 2: Really, no India.

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Speaker 3: Then I just feel like the way of expectation, it

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01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 3: probably will come back egg on our face. But I

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01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: feel like England just they're quietly somehow we don't like it,

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Speaker 3: but they're going under the radar and I feel like

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01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: they're peaking.

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Speaker 2: It's not often that we're in a grains so you.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe you should change my answer there.

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Speaker 1: You can lock in whatever you want no, I'll go

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Speaker 1: the same right, good stuff, See you next week.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Josh,