1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Indy Clinton has joined the 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: saturated market of influencer hosted podcast Sky Wheatley spreads cheating 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: rumors about her own partner and Sarah's Day's wacky active 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: wear campaign. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm Kate Torbaugh and we're joined by the new Missus Hancock. 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm only going to legally be known as that. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: My name for my work is still going to be 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbert as that as if it's like the words forever. No, 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it is. But it's really hard to 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: give up your last name. Are we going to see 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: a change on social media? I might put it in 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: the bio section on Instagram and maybe I'll change it 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: on Facebook, but that's probably all I'm going to do. Yeah, 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: this is the hard thing because with our last name Torba, 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: it's a bitch to spell and pronounce. But at least 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: no one else has the handle on social media. Whereas 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: I tried to change my name to Kate Turner and 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: I was like, there was literally no combination I could 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: have including that. Yeah, and also everything is already set 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: up with your last name, so even when you go 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: to the shops and they want to put something under 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: your account, they already have all of those old details. 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: Now a lot of people have been asking how did 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: you survive the heat because it was forty degrees on Saturday. Look, 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: I didn't take it well as in in the lead up. 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: I was really worried about it. And we got married 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: at Golden Winery and they did have a hot weather 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: policy in place, so they had a drink station set 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: up for all of our guests. They had some big 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: fans outside because our venue actually didn't have air conditioning. 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: Oh we couldn't tell. 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Because it was even hotter because they had these lights 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: like it looked beautiful but right behind the bridle tables, 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: well yeah, these spotlights that were just it was so 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: much heat coming out. That is because so for the 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: guests though, they were seated under these huge fans. So 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the venue area was this old barn with stone walls, 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: so it does stay quite cool in there. And when 40 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: we booked the venue, they said, oh, because we booked 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: it two years in advance, and they said, by the 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: time you guys get married, we will probably have air conditioning, 43 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: so thankfully a lot of our guests stayed cool from 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: the fans, but because the bridle table was at the front, 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: we sweltered. 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Can I set the scene of how hot it was. 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: Three of the guests had their shoes melt and this 48 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: is the glue in their shoes that the physical shoes 49 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: didn't melt, but the soles of their shoes came off 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: because the glue melted. Well, I mean for us, we 51 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: spent most of the day in air conditioning and our 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: accommodation getting ready, so it was really fun in the morning. 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: But we did have a first look. So the first 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: look was at two pm, which was the hottest. 55 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: Part of the day. It was three No, it was well, 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: we had it. 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, our first look was three pm and our 58 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: bridesmaid photos was two pm. And my poor bride'sman, Cameron, 59 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: he got back inside after these photos and his white 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: shirt was literally saturated. I've never seen someone sweat that much, 61 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: but that was an ongoing theme because at the ceremony, 62 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: all of the groomsmen, including Brandon, was sweating so much 63 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: their shirts were translucent, and at one stage a bead 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: of sweat from Brandon's forehead dropped in my mouth during 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: the ceremony. Well, but you did have a lovely day, 66 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: and we will go into it in more detail in 67 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: our subscriber episode. I do want to clear something up 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: though on this episode. So If and I have been 69 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: getting comments on our bridesmaids dresses. People are saying, Hey, 70 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: did Sophie borrow your bridesmaid's dresses for her ceremony? Yeah, 71 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: I be selfish of your sofia to escape move and 72 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: a good budget move. But no, they are two different dresses, 73 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: but they just seemed to look very similar because of 74 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: the effects that both our photographers put on the photos. 75 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: We're going to share a photo of how different the 76 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: colors actually are, yeh, because mine was a much i'm 77 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: gonna say brighter pink, but it was a really coral 78 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: color were yours? Yours was a slightly darker tone. And 79 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: the dresses themselves. Mine were from Beckenbridge and yours were 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: from pil Pilgrim. Yeah, so they are two different dresses. 81 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: They're not even from the same designer. But I would 82 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: take it as a big compliment because I loved both dresses, 83 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: and you know, immitate is the greatest form of flattery, 84 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: So thanks Sophie for copying my bridesmaidstry. 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: Even though it was so. 86 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Hot, it was still one of the most special days. 87 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: And my son Archie, my coccospaniel. He was an absolute star. 88 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: I was shocked how well behaved he was because when 89 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: I walked down the aisle, I had been envisaging this 90 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: moment and he was perfectly sat down next to brand 91 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: and he was so calm. 92 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: He didn't bark, he didn't really get noisy. 93 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: And he had this the cutest little suit on. And 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: we had a few more touches of him throughout the day. 95 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: So we had a little cake top of made of him. 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: You guys got me this beautiful little charm to put 97 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: on my bouquet of his face and was there anything 98 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: else arching in that? 99 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, he was in all of the photos. 100 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: He ended up walking back down the aisle with us, 101 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: and he loved all of the confetti. 102 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: Before you get nasty, we need to have a little chat. 103 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: Okay, in three hours, you're either gonna love me, I'm 104 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: gonna be your best friend, or you're gonna hate me, 105 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: which is very uncalled for. 106 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: There's something different about Sarah's Day's recently released seventh activewear 107 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: collection with White Fox Boutique, it is yet to sell out. Now, 108 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: the House of Balance collection went on sale last week 109 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: and only seven of the thirty three pieces. 110 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: Are sold out. 111 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: Now, that might sound like a pretty successful launch, but 112 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: it really isn't for Sarah's day because by one collection 113 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: where they over ordered stock, all collections sold out very 114 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: quickly and have had to be restocked. So more recently, 115 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: her Fitness Club collection sold out within three minutes of 116 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: its launch and had to be restocked at the time. 117 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: Sarah said this on her TikTok account. 118 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: Now, contrary to popular belief, I understand where this rumor 119 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: comes from. 120 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: Like it makes sense right. 121 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: People say, oh, they purposely do low stock so that 122 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: they sell out. 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: No, it is missed opportunity. 124 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: If people are on the site ready to buy your 125 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: active wear and there's no stock in the first hour, 126 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: that's stupid. Now, look, and I have been on both 127 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: sides of the coin here, Like there's been one collection 128 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: that we ordered too. 129 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: Much, and there's been every single other. 130 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: Collection that we order too little. And we have so 131 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: many meetings discussing like everything to do with the collection. 132 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: I don't have very much to do with how many 133 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: units we're gonna sell, Like obviously I give White Fox 134 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: all my data, like my followers, my engagement, and that 135 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: we kind of use that to base off how many 136 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: people we think. 137 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: Are gonna grab it. But yeah, I don't really get 138 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: the final say, which like I don't want the final say. 139 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: I don't know those. 140 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: That's not my area of expertise, you know. Yeah, it's 141 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 3: a fine line. 142 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 4: You don't want to have so much stock that you 143 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: have it for like months on end and then you have. 144 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: To put it on sale and like no one's getting it. 145 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: But then you do not want to sell out within 146 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: like minutes, let alone even the first few days. 147 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: Like you want people to have. 148 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: A few weeks to get their hands on things and 149 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: not feel stressed and like have a good buying experience. 150 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if this means that Sarah and White Fox 151 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: Boutique actually learned from the last active wear drop and 152 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: ordered more, or if it's just because the campaign wasn't 153 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: very successful. Because she said that she took inspiration from 154 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: a doctor Zeus book called Wacky Wednesday, And we spoke 155 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: a lot a couple of weeks ago about this campaign 156 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: because she spent two days at a luxury mansion, shooting 157 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: only four TikTok reels. So when I looked at the reels, 158 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: the first one one for fifty seconds and the other 159 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: three only went for twenty seconds. 160 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: It was really weird. The campaign. 161 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: It's reminds me of when she and Kurt used to 162 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: do put on those accents that weren't funny. It was 163 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: a lot of that humor that maybe she and Kurt 164 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: personally do it home, but I didn't find it funny 165 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: or clove. It didn't really make sense because the whole 166 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: collection is called House of Balance, and I assume she 167 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: was drawing on inspiration because recently she has shut down 168 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: her app that was causing her not to have any 169 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: balance in her life. So I would have thought that 170 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: the campaign would portray someone who's got balance between work, family, 171 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: and also the gym. However, the campaign, apparently someone said 172 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: it was meant to be a bit of a parody 173 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: of the Princess Diaries. I don't have to dan how 174 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: they get such a large budget from White Fox to 175 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: put these campaigns together, because when you look at it, 176 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: they hired out this house for multiple days because of 177 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: the weather, and think how much they'd be paying Kurt's 178 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: production company to film it. I don't think people understand 179 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: this probably costs about thirty thousand dollars. She recently put 180 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: out a behind the scenes video of the photo shoot, 181 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: and it was quite embarrassing because she had previously complained 182 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: about what a grueling day it was, but it looked 183 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: like a pretty chill day. 184 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: She went to the hairdresser, had a bit of fun 185 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: on set. 186 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty embarrassing because it looked like a 187 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: pretty chilled out day on set. That was probably quite fun. 188 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: Now was it just me or did the campaign not 189 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: really make much sense? Because I think they almost got 190 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: carried away with this creative idea. The firstly didn't align 191 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: with the name of the collection, and then the concept 192 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: of trying to spot all these wacky things in a 193 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: real is actually distracting you away from even noticing the 194 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: active word. And I'm wondering why that is why it 195 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: hasn't sold out. Thirty year olds don't have time to 196 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: be spotting little clues. I think a lot of her 197 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: followers are probably mums who were run off their feet 198 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: and are busy. 199 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: They just want to see if the active weear looks good. 200 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Well, the thing is. The campaign actually did get a 201 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: lot of commentary and views, but it's also because she 202 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: launched a daily competition. So in the lead up to 203 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: the Active Where launch, she announced that for the four 204 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: days leading into it, she would release a new video 205 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: each day and people would have to spot how many 206 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: wacky things were in the video, and then they could 207 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: go into the draw to win a two hundred and 208 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: fifty dollars voucher. They also needed to tag two of 209 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: their best friends and then follow Sarah and White Fox boutique. 210 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: Now this meant heaps people were commenting all of the 211 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: wacky things and it created great engagement. However, people have 212 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: been commenting that none of the prize winners have been drawn. 213 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: So the competition ended at nine am the following day 214 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: of each video going live. 215 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: It's now a week later and they. 216 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: Haven't made any official announcement of who has won, and 217 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: people have been commenting. So someone wrote, have we missed something? 218 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: I totally get that people get busy have holidays and kids, etc. 219 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: But come on now, don't say it if you can't deliver. 220 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: It looks bad on her. Now, she did the same 221 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: thing with a Christmas giveaway. Thing that's such a bad look. 222 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: It also sounds like they've almost seen some TikTok online 223 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: that's like, in order to get engagement you need to 224 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: do X, Y and Z when that sort of content. 225 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: Because she's got such a large audience, she doesn't really 226 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: need to do that shit. She just needs to release 227 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: some good imagery of her in the clothes. It just 228 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: all is a bit odd. There were a couple of 229 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: questions around sizing as well, So someone on TikTok asked, Sarah, 230 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: do you have some mid sized models on the website 231 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: for reference? 232 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: Would be lovely, and she responded. 233 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: Saying, I'm honestly not too sure who their e comm 234 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: models are this month, but I'll try and find out. 235 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: Someone also responded, rather than finding out, perhaps out something 236 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: as the creative that you could put forward as being 237 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: important to the campaign. And I couldn't agree more. I 238 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: find it really odd when she's ever asked a question 239 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: that's I mean, this question wasn't even critical, but a 240 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: question that's asking for more information instead of answering the 241 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: person straight away, why. 242 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: Don't you find out the answer. 243 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: But she's clearly viewed it as a critical question because 244 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: she's copped it before and she wipes her hands. Yeah, 245 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: but then she uploads that YouTube video saying, Oh, I'm 246 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: the creative director and every year I've got to come 247 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: up with this creative campaign. It's like, well, I would 248 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: have thought a really important part of the creative campaign 249 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: was to ensure that all bodies that your active wear 250 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: is fitting are actually reflected in that campaign, because she 251 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: was the only model again to feature in it. But 252 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: then she also complained about having to try on all 253 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: the active where so many times and how exhausting it was. 254 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: It's like, why didn't you get other models on the 255 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: campaign that reflect your audience a bit better? I think 256 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: she I know, we have been discussing this all year, 257 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: but I really think that her popularity is dwindling and 258 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: she isn't becoming as relevant as she once was. Yeah, 259 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: and I think that's why it's so interesting that this 260 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: active where campaign hasn't sold out. I mean, also, let's 261 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: be honest, the active weear looks very similar to the 262 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: campaign that she did the previous year, and it's all 263 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: very plain active where that you could get from Lulu 264 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Lemon or any other active were design. There's nothing really 265 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: special about it. Also, never see people our age wearing 266 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: White Fox Boutique. Like, when I see people rocking the 267 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: White Fox Boutique hoodies, they're all early twenties. And is 268 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: that the demo that's following Sarah now? Because I think 269 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: she might have alienated that audience because she has grown 270 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: up obviously and she's got kids. I don't know if 271 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: people are watching her that now shop at White Fox Boutique. Also, 272 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: I wonder if the bad pr around White Fox Boutique 273 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: not getting orders out around Christmas time has anything to 274 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: do with it. 275 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 5: Gus, this has happened to me before, right like this chick. 276 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 5: It was when I was fucking happily pregnant and I 277 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 5: was in Melbourne. 278 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has outed her baby daddy Lockie. 279 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: War revealing cheating rumors in a damning Q and a 280 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: Kate what is going on? 281 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 5: Well? 282 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: It all started when Sky invited her followers to send 283 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: in anonymous questions for her to answer on her Instagram story. 284 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: It's always dangerous when people put these enng L links out, 285 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: isn't it. Not Surprisingly, most of the questions centered around 286 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: her relationship with baby daddy Lockie wore Now. Sky has 287 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: never shied away from sharing the ups and downs of 288 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: their relationship, so much so that last year she actually 289 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: shared that she'd moved out of their family home for 290 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: a week before they reconciled. Now, to kick things off, 291 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: Sky responded to a question asking if she thought Lockie 292 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: had ever cheated on her while she'd been on. 293 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: A brand trip. 294 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: Now, she quickly shut down the conversation, writing, Nah, he 295 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: would need the energy for that, and he's had the kids. 296 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: Ha ha ha. 297 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Pretty hard for someone when you have kids who need 298 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: your attention now. She also was asked how often her 299 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: and Locke had sex and when he was going to propose, 300 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: so people were really going there for any listeners out 301 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: there who are curious. She did confirm that they have 302 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: sex once a week, but it's not as often as 303 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Lockie would like. She also responded about the proposals, saying 304 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: that she's not thinking about marriage at this point, and 305 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: there was a time when she thought that Lockee was 306 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: going to propose, but she told him not to. It's 307 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: a bit of a backflip on the engagement thing because 308 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: there was a time when she kept posting engagement rings 309 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: that she wanted and all these clues to Lockie and 310 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people like when is he going to propose? 311 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: Maybe she thinks that if she takes a different approach 312 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: and says that she doesn't want to be engaged, that 313 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: he might pop the question. I think there's a difference 314 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: in wanting a nice ring and perhaps wanting everything that 315 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: comes with marriage. 316 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: I think she likes the idea of the ring more. 317 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: Stupid because she literally has two kids with him, lives 318 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: with him. The only thing they don't have is the 319 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: bloody title of it. Yeah, but maybe she didn't want 320 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: all of the legalities around the marriage because things the 321 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: fact does lifting. I think that it's Yeah, but if 322 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: it still becomes more complicated if you actually get married 323 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: and sign all the paperwork, not really, I think that 324 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: it's just reverse psychology At the moment. Well, things did 325 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: get juicy when Sky shared a question that said, I'm 326 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: too scared to message you, but Lockie has DMD me 327 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: on Insta and insinuated to catch up in brackets despite 328 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: being with you or having kids. I really wish I 329 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: could tell you, but I don't want to mess things up. However, 330 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: I've just written this as anonymous. 331 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Quit now. 332 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: Sky responded saying, send the proof then we can talk, 333 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: and added the laughing and handshake emojis, and this then 334 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: triggered another person to send in a second cheating allegation. 335 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: This time the person wrote, I just read what the 336 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: other girl said about Lockie messaging her. My sister told 337 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: me LOCKI has been catching up with her last year 338 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: when you were both having a bit of trouble. I 339 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: never ever had told anyone and felt so bad for you. Now, 340 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: Sky wrote back, who's your sister? 341 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: Is she a babe? This is kind of hot with 342 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: a bunch of. 343 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Laughing emojis after it, she continued, I really want to 344 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: know more, and if you felt bad for me, you 345 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: would have messaged me earlier with proof, So cut the crap. 346 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: Haha. 347 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Can we also make this more believable also, like I've 348 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: never told anyone? Ha ha ha Okay kept this juicy 349 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: info in for a year now, coming straight to a 350 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: source as anonymous, I cannot now. This did prompt a 351 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: lot of followers to be like, what is going on? 352 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: Is anyone actually sent you in any proof? And Sky 353 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: said there's nothing in my DM's boring. My heart rate 354 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: went up for a little For a min there, the 355 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: kettle was just starting to boil. Now Sky revealed it's 356 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: actually not the first time a follower has messaged her 357 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: claiming that Lockie is cheating on her. She said the 358 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: first time it happened was when she was heavily pregnant 359 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: and doing a photo shoot in Melbourne. So at the time, 360 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Lockie denied the allegations, which led Sky to actually stalk 361 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: the girl out. So apparently the girl in question used 362 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: a model for Princess Polly and she was told the 363 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: girl's name. So Ski ended up messaging the brand and 364 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: asked about the girl, and they said that they didn't 365 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: actually ever work with her. Let's write a more of 366 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: what she said. 367 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 5: My friend end up ended up dming her because I 368 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 5: was messaging her trying to get proof. Yeah, and she 369 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 5: just wouldn't give me any information. And I'm like okay, 370 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: because obviously I was like, okay, it's either happened or 371 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 5: she's a troll. So that was that she wasn't giving 372 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: me much information. She actually stopped replying to me so 373 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 5: she wouldn't open my message. So my friend messaged Shirt 374 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 5: and she's like, I've got your fucking number. If you 375 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 5: don't start talking and tell us more information, we're gonna 376 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 5: leak your number. I had nothing to do with that. 377 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 5: It was my friend. But I'm so glad that she 378 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: did do that because his troll ended up being like, 379 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I was just saying that I made it 380 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 5: all up. I just wanted her attention. I wanted her 381 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 5: to reply. Blah blah blah blah. Still to this day, 382 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: we don't know. We don't know what's the truth and 383 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 5: what's not. So anyway, it's happened to me before, so yeah, yeah, 384 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: whatever at all. 385 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: I love that she actually said, oh yeah, the girl 386 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: admitted that she's just a troll and that she was 387 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: doing it for attention, but then goes, oh, well, we 388 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: don't know what the truth is. 389 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: Like, I feel like there must have been a massive. 390 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: Argument with between her and Lockey that night. But it 391 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: must be so hard to know who to actually believe 392 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: because you kind of take people on face value. Like 393 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: if someone messages saying, oh, your partner's been cheating, there 394 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: would be an element where. 395 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: You're going, well are they like why would someone just you? 396 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: Do you want to do the investigation? It's pretty funny 397 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: because someone asked, what does Lockie think about you sharing 398 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: all of these things, and apparently she said, he told 399 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: me I was silly to post it, haha. You'll know 400 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: me though, always unhinged. I feel so sorry for Lockie. 401 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: Can you imagine how many arguments are being incited by 402 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: this and it's afamatory towards him Because these are just 403 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: anonymous sources putting forth this information. They probably don't think 404 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: that Sky is actually going to post about it. I mean, 405 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: you'd like to trust your partner, like you'd like to 406 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: think that she could trust Lockey and go, no, he's 407 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: not cheating, but if she's been bombarded by messages, you 408 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: would start to wonder. 409 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's. 410 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: Funny that she chose to put it out because I 411 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: feel like if you were really confident in your relationship, 412 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: there's no way you would give that airtime. But it 413 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: was almost like she was hoping that by sharing it, 414 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: the person would come out and tell her more because 415 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: obviously it's been sent in anonymously, and she did take 416 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: the allegation quite seriously last time by following it up 417 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: and doing all this investigating, which I completely understand because 418 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: you would want to get to the bottom of it 419 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: because if you're an influencer, you would hate to think 420 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: that these things are going on behind your back and 421 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: people were laughing about you. I mean, I think one 422 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: of the reasons that she is sharing about it is 423 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: because she is desperate for engagement. She has spoken before 424 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: about her engagement levels dropping off and people unfollowing her, 425 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: and she knows that this sort of relationship drama just 426 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: causes just brings eyeballs over to it. 427 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: At least she's giving people what. 428 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: They are Yeah, great, it's very entertaining. It's confusing, though, 429 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: because more recently it seems like things have been quite 430 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: good between her and Lockie. They went on a holiday 431 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: to Fiji and seemed pretty loved up, and I think 432 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: people were really enjoying the fact that they were getting along. 433 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: I wonder if this is going to spark another massive 434 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: argument and potentially a bit of a break between the 435 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: two of them again. 436 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 5: Jason Shack, I get you still asleep. We're going to 437 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 5: do a quick workout, very very busy day. 438 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: Let's get do it. Indy Clinton has joined the saturated 439 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: market of influencer hosted podcasts. The twenty twenty three TikTok 440 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Creator of the Year dropped her first episode on Tuesday, which, 441 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: at the time of recording, is ranked number two in 442 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: Apple's top shows and okay, what is this podcast about. Well, 443 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: it's called the Sleep Deprived Podcast, which seems like a 444 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: perfect name because Indy Clinton does have a ten week 445 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: old plus two children under three, and it's basically the 446 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: place where fans of her can go to hear more 447 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: in depth conversations from Indy when she's not being interrupted 448 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: by her kids. So India is promising real conversations and 449 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: legit advice from professionals that she interviews. Now, originally, when 450 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: she teased this secret project that she was working on, 451 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: people assumed it was going to be a skincare or 452 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: beauty product because she teased that she's working with chemist Warehouse. However, 453 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: Chemist's Warehouse are just sponsoring the podcast and they appear 454 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: to be the ones putting the studio together and filming 455 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: at all. So last week India actually traveled to Melbourne 456 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: with her husband Ben and ten week old Soul to 457 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: bulk record a bunch of these interviews, and so she 458 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: showed vision of her in the studio changing outfits. And 459 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: to me, there's something I don't like when people bolk 460 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: record episodes because it just doesn't really seem to be 461 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: true to their life as it's going like, I like 462 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: a live element to a podcast where you know it's 463 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: been recorded the day before. It's kind of like when 464 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day was doing those daily podcasts for Spotify, and 465 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: you could tell because they talk about stuff that had 466 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: happened months before, and you're like, oh, okay, we've just 467 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: caught up now. I did find the podcast fairly interesting 468 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: because it was an introductory episode about who she is 469 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: and what she's been doing. And I always like that 470 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: because you know, you stumble across these influencers at different times. 471 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: But I didn't realize that she really is an OG influencer. 472 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: She's been on Instagram since she was fifteen, posting about 473 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: her being a surfer chick basically, so I've only really 474 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: come across her knowing her as this chaotic mummy blogger, 475 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: but really she went off organically ten years ago. And 476 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: she said that she used to post pictures of handfuls 477 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: of shells and different stuff at the beach and she 478 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: just gets so many likes on the content. Who would 479 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: never get now, who was better hers or Ruby Tuesday Matthews? Oh, 480 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: definitely Indies because you could tell that they had that 481 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: production quality there. It was filmed in a proper studio 482 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: they filmed the episode. There was something also good about 483 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: Ruby Tuesday Matthews, knowing that it wasn't overproduced as well. 484 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: But I do think that Indy Clinton's probably has more 485 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: of a longevity because she has got the help of 486 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: a production team. 487 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: Well. 488 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: Olivia Atwood, who's a UK influencer that was on Love Island. 489 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: She's also dropped a new podcast this week and in 490 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: the UK it went to number one. I listened to 491 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: it because I love Olivia Outwood and it's good. 492 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: I just I feel like there is a. 493 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: Place for some of these podcasts if you take them 494 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: for what they are. Most of them only last sort 495 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: of a season or two. I think it's a little 496 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: different with Olivia Attwood because she has already started changing 497 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: career path. She's been doing doco, so it makes more 498 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: sense for her to have a podcast. But I just 499 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: think that there are just too many influencer podcasts at 500 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: the moment, and it does feel like every influencer and 501 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: their dog thinks that they can just sit behind a 502 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 1: microphone and produce quality content. We have had a lot 503 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: of discussions in our Facebook group about Olivia Rodgers' podcast 504 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: and how people are saying it just misses the mark 505 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: that they love her social media content, but their podcast 506 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: just is an it. I think that influencers can't just 507 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: assume that their followers are going to then translate to 508 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: listeners because it is such an oversaturated market that you 509 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: have to be doing something quite creative, because you can't 510 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: just get on there and talk about yourselves. Or the 511 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: one that annoays to be the most is them interviewing people. 512 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: And I was quite disappointed when I heard the indie 513 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: would be interviewing people. It's like, I don't want to 514 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: hear you interview people. And while a lot of her 515 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: fans were excited, there were a lot of naysayers in 516 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: her comments. So one person and wrote, who doesn't have 517 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: a podcast now? There are way too many, to which 518 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: Indy replied, have a winge. And another person also commented 519 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: the amount of influencers turning to podcasts now is crazy, 520 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: and Indy said back, because we have a lot to 521 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: say now. There are definitely a lot of influencer podcasts, 522 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: particularly heaps, that are popping up at the moment. But 523 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: I think that in order to be successful, you either 524 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: have to pick a niche or you have to be 525 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: quick to the market. So if you think about Lucy 526 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: Jackson and Nicky Westcott their podcast Happy Hour, I'd say 527 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: it's probably one of the most successful influencer led podcasts, 528 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: and that that's because they launched back in twenty nineteen 529 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: when the market wasn't from us, so there's two of them, 530 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: whereas if you notice a lot of the new podcasts, 531 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: it's just one person. Some of them need to start 532 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: teaming up, Like imagine Ruby Tuesday Matthews with Indy Clinton, 533 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: for example, that would be a good combination. 534 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: That would be chaotic. 535 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they would probably need someone that wasn't so chaotok 536 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: that led it a little bit more. I think you 537 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: need to have that mixture of personalities. It is interesting 538 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: because I wasn't surprised to see Indy Clinton's podcast top 539 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: the charts, but I do wonder how long it is 540 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: actually going to stay in the charts. The one I 541 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: enjoy it the most is when there's an influence I 542 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: won't name who it is, but I think we probably 543 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: know who it is where they launch their podcast and 544 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: it actually doesn't make the charts, and it's just a 545 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: barometer of the fact that they don't have a genuine follower, 546 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: but yeah, I know who you're talking about. There is 547 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: a difference though, in wanting to tune into a few 548 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: minutes of someone's life, perhaps in a TikTok you know, 549 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: real or whatever, they're actually wanting to sit and hear 550 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: them speak for an hour on a podcast. So that 551 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: being said, I just wish the influencers would bring out 552 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: a podcast and then literally just talk like they wouldn't 553 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: have vlogged, because if you're driving in the car sometimes 554 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: I just love listening to absolute rubbish. I don't like 555 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: listening to them, as you said, Kate, where they reinterview 556 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: each other shit that we've already heard. I just want 557 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: like general conversation. And that's where I think it is 558 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: good when an influencer is working with a team of 559 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: producers because they are able to then say, this is 560 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: what people want you to talk about. Can you talk 561 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: about these three topics. We've seen it with the Kick 562 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: podcast how it has completely changed, and I think that 563 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: they have enjoyed more success recently since listener have been involved, 564 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: because you can tell that they have someone that is 565 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: a professional in the radio space tell them these are 566 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: the topics for me to talk about. Aka talk about 567 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: your sex life. Producers just talk about sex, talk about 568 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: not washing your sex toys. I mean, even Olivia Rodgers 569 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: has clearly cotten on that no one really wants to 570 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: hear her interview people, so she started doing q and 571 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: as and revealing juicy things about her personal life. She's 572 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: recently got her mum on, Well that looks good, Like 573 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: that is a good move. Whoever suggested that. Yeah, But 574 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: the thing with Olivia Rodgers podcast is she's actually got 575 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: a team working with her. But maybe they are too 576 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: much of Yes, people have gone too much on what 577 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: she wanted to do. You know what it is. I 578 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: think they've gone and it's going to sound harsh, but 579 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: I think they've gone for sort of sob stories that 580 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: they think that people. You know, this is so much 581 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: deeper to talk about. That's not the audience. People want 582 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: to hear about Morgan. We want to hear about the 583 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: marriage split, but we want to hear super visual stuff. 584 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: So Ricky and Lucy do it really well where they 585 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: actually put their personality and their life out there in 586 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: a way that you feel like you're listening to friends. 587 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: But not everyone has a personality for a podcast. So 588 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: just because you have a following, like, let's be real, 589 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers is an absolutely stunning girl. So a lot 590 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: of her followers are because of her appearance and that 591 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: they want to emulate her beauty tips and her fashion, 592 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: whereas maybe they're not as interested, unfortunately about what she 593 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: has to say, and that's why her podcast. 594 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: Isn't doing well. 595 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: I'm just talk about the beauties, but talk about the 596 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: beauty stuff. Yeah, but I kind of feel weird how 597 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: people are bringing out a lot of beauty or fashion 598 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: podcast because to me, there's such visual elements like I 599 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: can't I don't know about you, but my brain doesn't 600 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: work in the way of being able to visualize a 601 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: beauty technique or to visualize all these different but other 602 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: people's are And I think that it would be great 603 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: to hear what Olivia like. Get Olivia Rodgers and Paulo Sacchy. 604 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: This is a great podcasts idea. Get them on a 605 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: podcast together and you have to talk about no but 606 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: have them actually talk about fashion. Yeah. They Actually I 607 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: found that one quite interesting because he opened up about 608 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: coming out in his thirties. 609 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: That was actually quite a good Yeah. 610 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: But I'm saying as a niche podcast, actually target it 611 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: towards your audience. So my audience followed me because they 612 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: like the outfits that wear. So go on and talk 613 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: about how you dress Olivia for a wedding and what 614 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: she feels comfortable in and the backlash that she received 615 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: ever wearing the certain dress. 616 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: I want to know, how does she do her hair? 617 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, she shares that on Instagram, but put it in 618 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: a podcast for everyone wants to. 619 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: See the visual. 620 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: But look at Saffron Barker and Anastasia kings North. There's 621 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: is probably one of the best podcasts that influencers do 622 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: that I listen to, and it's because they're sharing information 623 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: about their love life. They know their niche. I mean, 624 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: I do enjoy it, But that being said, sometimes I 625 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: feel like I'm getting dumber listening to it. When they 626 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: start handing out dating advice. 627 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: I will not. Yeah, but you're not fucking twenty that 628 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: their mind. 629 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: You're not a target. Okay, you've hit the on the head. 630 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: The key to a good influencer podcast is when they 631 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: actually share personal details. Will somebody shout out Michelle's personal details. 632 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: For the other can't just say sorry? Amy? 633 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: In regards to that podcast, it was so funny and 634 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: I've been meaning to have this as a segment because 635 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: we did have a segment a while ago where it's 636 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: like dumb shit that you've heard people say on social media. 637 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: And it was so funny because they did a Q 638 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: and A, like a sex Q and A, and they 639 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: was a Saffron and Anastasia and they were sort of 640 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: reading out what are sex myths? And there was a 641 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: myth about like when you lose your virginity, not everyone 642 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: bleeds or loses their heimen. 643 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: There was a question about that. Anyway. 644 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: You could tell that Saffron didn't understand the question because 645 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: she started talking about getting. 646 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: Her first period. 647 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just thought it was so funny these 648 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: poor teenage girls who were going to these twenty three 649 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: year olds for advice and the difference between hymen and 650 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: that period so obvious that they've just been sent these 651 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: lists of questions from the producers. They've any creative control 652 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: over it because they're like, oh, this is a bit stupid. 653 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: What's it anyway? 654 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, one influencer podcast I'm actually quite excited for 655 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: that is apparently in the pipeline is Sky Wheatley's. So 656 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited not because I think it will be good. 657 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm excited because I think it will be an absolute 658 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: train wreck. And I don't understand why someone like Sky 659 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: Wheatley would literally give her a self a space that 660 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: she could get herself even more in trouble. 661 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: Well, how quickly do you think they'll be calls for 662 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: her to be canceled after the podcast? 663 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, she's always getting calls to be canceled. 664 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 665 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: Like the first episode, are we're going to hear, you know, 666 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: an incident like the. 667 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: Cat swinging incident. 668 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: It makes our jobs a little easier because it gives 669 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: us some content to talk about. Yeah, we love the content. Well, 670 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: I think that's where we're going to leave things today. 671 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the 672 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to 673 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: elders past and present and if you do love the podcast, 674 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: please make sure you are subscribed to the show and 675 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: leave us a five star out review.