1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: your host, Georgie Stevenson. I am a lawyer and health coach, 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: social media influencer, wife and dog mum. On the Rise 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health, 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: relationships and more. This is a podcast for women who 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: want to rise up to be the best version of themselves, 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: who have big dreams in who are willing to put 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: in the work to get there. I want to bring 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: you the tools and actionable steps to feel confident in yourself, 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: inspired to take bold action, and motivated to conquer your goals. 11 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Are you with me? Your friends, Let's rise and Conquer. 12 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to the Rise and con Podcast. Today, 13 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: I have a special guest for you, and her name 14 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: is Cleo. At just eleven years old, Cleo landed her 15 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: dream role on a TV show, h Twoo Just at Water. 16 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: After four incredible years of filming, she found herself in 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: the depths of the exciting yet very competitive film and 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: television industry. Living between Gold Coast and La Cleo felt 19 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: the pressure and decided to create a platform to help 20 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: herself and others live a more optimistic, peaceful, and positive 21 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: outlook on life. This was the beginning of Cleo's blog, 22 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Passed Around the Smile. When Cleo changed her mindset and 23 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: focused on the Law of attraction and self love, her 24 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: career expanded in ways she could have never imagined. She 25 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: has booked acting roles that are filming later this year. 26 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: She is writing for film and television, and she also 27 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: has branched out with her pass Around the Smile blog 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: into events and course and something very exciting is coming 29 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: on later in the year. She believes this has only 30 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: happened because she has learned to trust the process and 31 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: focus on the positive. Cleo's goal is to inspire and 32 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: encourage people to realize their full power and potential. She 33 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: wants everyone to find their purpose and experiencing magic of 34 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: Law of attraction like she has. In today's episode, we 35 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: chat about her transition in the entertainment industry from a 36 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: child to teenager. We talk about dealing with bullies and 37 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: online trolls. We talk about how the law of attraction 38 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: has helped her find her passions and the key to 39 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: finding your path and living in your truth. I'm so 40 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: excited to share clear with you. Let's get straight into 41 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: the episode. Hi Cleo, Welcome to the show. 42 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: Hi Georgie, thank you, thank you for having me. 43 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: Of course, of course very excited to get into some 44 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: very important issues with you. But before we do that, 45 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: I thought we'd start off light and a question I 46 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: always ask my guests is what is one thing, big 47 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: or small that you are rising up and conquering this week? 48 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I have had a few big jobs sitting 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: on my to do list for so many months now, 50 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: and I just I look at them and I do 51 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: something else because I'm too overwhelmed by the thought of 52 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: starting it. So this week I'm rising up and I'm 53 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: conquering them. So even if it means just shipping away 54 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: a little bit, I'm just gonna start. 55 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: That is amazing. It's actually funny this week. Well, last 56 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: week I got back from holidays and it was kind 57 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: of a bit of a shit show, I'm not gonna lie, 58 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and I was just frazzled with my to do list 59 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: and it was like not really happening. And so this 60 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: week I've done this thing where I don't know if 61 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: you've heard of this saying, but it's like eat the 62 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: frog first, like do the biggest hardest thing of your 63 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: day first, get it over and done with, otherwise it 64 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. So it's actually what I've been doing this week, 65 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: and I've been so much more productive because like, I 66 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: do the big hard thing and then the rest of 67 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: the day nothing seems as bad. So I've been getting 68 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: it done, whereas before I would like wait to do 69 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: the biggest thing last and it would just yeah, not 70 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: all workouts. So I can definitely relate to that. 71 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree, And it makes it like 72 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: you're not dreading anything. Then for the afternoon, you know, 73 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: like it's just coming exactly. 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: So I've already done an inter at the start, But 75 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: can you give the audience a little snapshot of who 76 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: you are and your very interesting journey so far? Sure? Well. 77 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: I am a Beyonce and pastor loving Gold Coast girl. 78 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: I would say I've been in the film and television 79 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: industry ever since. I can remember absolutely love and thrive 80 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: off being in front of the camera, but now I 81 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: really enjoy being on the other side of the camera 82 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: as well, and I'm writing for film and television. I 83 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: started my blog, Passed Around the Smile in twenty fifteen, 84 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: which is a blog that aims to create and share 85 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: positivity and I have now branched out into events and 86 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: courses which I soon will be taking around Australia. 87 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: So that is me amazing, so so interesting. It's so 88 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: funny because I actually watched you was younger, so like 89 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 1: we are talking to you over a microphone. But let's 90 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: get into your film and television Korea. So I know 91 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: you've been in the industry for over fourteen years, which 92 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: is crazy. So you were so young when you started. 93 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Was it something that you always wanted to do? 94 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up performing. My mum was in the industry. 95 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: So I love to seing, I love to dance, I 96 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: love to act. So when I got the role on 97 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: H two, it kind of made sense. I was eleven 98 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: when I first got the role and then sixteen when 99 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: I finished. So we filmed for like so over four years, 100 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: I think, and I mean it was hard not to 101 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: absolutely love acting in that job, Like it was the 102 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: best job a kid could ever have, you know, So 103 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: it was a great start to my career. 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: That's amazing, And so I believe and correct me if 105 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: you're if I'm wrong, sorry, But you would have to 106 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: travel between the Gold Coast and LA. Is that correct? 107 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: So not for H two oh, not while I was 108 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: filming that, but after H two oh, I would go 109 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: over to LA for what they call pilot season, so 110 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: that means when all of the shows are auditioning for 111 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: their pilots, so their first episodes. So for three years 112 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: I lived back and forth between the Gold Coast and LA. 113 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: And yes, that was a crazy time. 114 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: So what did you do in regards to schooling? Did 115 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: you ever go to an actual school or you did 116 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: it all online? 117 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: Yep, I was still at school. I went to school 118 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: in early on the Gold Coast, and because I wasn't 119 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: a lead in H two O, I was kind of 120 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: you know, some weeks I might be filming four or 121 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: five days a week and I wouldn't go to school 122 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: and I'd just do my work in a little tutor 123 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: bus on set. But some days I wouldn't be filming 124 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: at all, so I'd go to school for the whole 125 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: week or just have one day filming. 126 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: That is absolutely crazy and it must have been hard navigating, 127 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, obviously being a child and then coming into 128 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: your teens and doing this and trying to do school. 129 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: What was your experience like during that time. 130 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: I think I was lucky, but there was definitely hard times. 131 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: Like I remember being teased a little bit at school. 132 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: I now look back and know that it was just jealousy, 133 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: but I remember for myself, like I'm a teenager and 134 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm rocking up to set with pimples on my face, 135 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: having to go in and learn lines while trying to 136 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: get my assignments in, and then film scenes where I'm 137 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: like not feeling comfortable within myself if I had like pimples, 138 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: or if they put me in a costume that I hated, 139 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: which every day. So it was a lot for like 140 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: a fifteen year old girl. You know, this is going 141 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: to be broadcast all over the world, so it was 142 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure. But yeah, the cast and crew 143 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: were so amazing, so I did have a good experience, 144 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: but there were definitely challenging times. 145 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: Did you ever feel pressure to look or be a 146 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: certain person when you were going through this time? 147 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I think more after H twolve finished, when I 148 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: was moving into like when I was becoming an adult 149 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: and I was going for adult roles, it would be. Yeah, 150 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: it was a lot of pressure because I felt like 151 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: I needed to prove that I wasn't that child actor anymore. 152 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: That I was an adult and I could do adult 153 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: things and adult roles. But it's hard, especially like auditioning. 154 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: You walk into a room and there's twenty girls that 155 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: look exactly the same as you. Yeah, it's so overwhelming, 156 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: and so I did feel pressure definitely to kind of 157 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: look or dress or act a certain way. But thankfully 158 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: I quickly got over that. 159 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Amazing. Amazing, And so do you have any tips for 160 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: our listeners that you might want to get in the industry. 161 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: I would say, believe in yourself. I know it sounds cliche, 162 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: but that's one of the most important things. Only do 163 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: it if you really love performing. I've seen a lot 164 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: of people do it because they want money and fame, 165 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: and it's never going to work out that way. I 166 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: don't really personally understand why people would want to be famous. 167 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: But you've got to love acting to do it. It's 168 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: a tough industry, so you've just got to absolutely love 169 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: what you do. And two, if you're auditioning and you 170 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: don't get the role, it's not personal. It's nothing about 171 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: what you look like, it's nothing about how good of 172 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: an actor you are. It's literally just that you aren't 173 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: right for the role. 174 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: It is such a tough industry. It's actually funny. I've 175 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: never mentioned on here before, but when I was younger, 176 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: I loved drama and I was actually in like a 177 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: performing school and I used to do play and I 178 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: went for a couple of auditions, and it is it's 179 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: so intimidating because there's this line of girls you all 180 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: look the same, and you're there kind of thinking like, oh, 181 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: my god, of course they're better than me, like they 182 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: seem more quipped. And I had a lot of self 183 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: doubt along with that, And so that's why I knew 184 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: straight away, even when I was younger, I told my 185 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: mom and dad, I was like, oh, this is not 186 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: for me, because even not even getting a roll or 187 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: anything like that, like I felt this like pressure and 188 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: doubt and my heart wasn't completely in it, and so 189 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: I just kind of knew there would be someone better suited. 190 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: If that makes sense. 191 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: Oh totally, I can completely relate to that. It's so competitive, 192 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: and if you're not a competitive person, you can't really 193 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: just put that aside. It's not that easy. And yeah, 194 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: these limiting beliefs come over the self doubt thoughts and 195 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: they're so destructive and it breaks my heart to hear 196 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: you say that, and for me thinking back as well 197 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: to all of the things that you know, Oh, she's 198 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: skinnier than me, she's a better actor than me, she's 199 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: had more experience than me, Like, oh my god, it's 200 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: so draining, and especially growing up like as a teenager 201 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: and having all those thoughts like fool food. 202 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: Was a lot, I know, and being a teenager is 203 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: bloody hard enough, isn't it. Oh that's so funny. And 204 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: before we get into kind of shifting gears and talking 205 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: about more what you're doing now, I do just want 206 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: to ask you some quick questions because obviously that is 207 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: a whole nother world doing at that sort of career 208 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: so young. So did you ever have you know, a 209 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: huge fan girl moment when working in the entertainment industry 210 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: When I got. 211 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: Sent the scripts for season three in h two O, 212 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: I saw that Indiana Evans, who was in Home and 213 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: Away at the time, was the new Mermaid in season three, 214 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: and we had all of these scenes together. And at 215 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: the time, I was like in year ten or eleven 216 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: watching Home and Away every night. So I freaked out 217 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: and I totally fangirl on set and had all of 218 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: these awkward moments with her because I was just trying 219 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: so hard as like a little fifteen year old to 220 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: impress her. But she's just a lovely, normal girl. 221 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: So oh, that's so funny. And then do you have 222 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: any embarrassing moments from set? 223 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: I do, yes. There was this one day in season 224 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: three where I had a line and it was something 225 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: like Georgie told Cleo that Susie stayed at Rachel's and 226 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: then Rachel and Taylor and Anika went to the movies together, 227 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: Like it was so many girls' names in one and 228 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: I had to like come in when Phoebe said this 229 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: certain line and then land on this mark at a 230 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: certain time, like there were so many things to think about, 231 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 2: and I just could not get it right. And there 232 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: was a crew of like sixty to seventy on H 233 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: two O surrounding you, watching you, and it got like 234 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: the twelfth take, and I was so embarrassed. And you know, 235 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: so when like you start to feel like you're gonna 236 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: cry and it's like all in your throat and you're like, 237 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: oh my god, I can't cry right now, Like I 238 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: am holding up this crew. We went so overtime and 239 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: I finally got the line right and everyone cheered and 240 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: I just burst into tears and it was just, oh, 241 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: it was the worst. 242 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you poor thing. I don't know if 243 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast, but I have this thing 244 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: where I get so tongue tied so easy. And that's 245 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: like another reason why I could never be on TV 246 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: because I'm the exact same, like if you put a 247 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: certain amount of words or names together, like I say it, 248 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: so I could only imagine how you felt. 249 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 2: Look at you. You have your own podcast. 250 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,479 Speaker 1: I know, well, what was I think you're amazing. 251 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: Oh I just remembered an even better fangirl story. Actually, 252 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: if I can go back to that, because I think 253 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: this one is interesting. I it was recently though, and 254 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: it was kind of in the entertainment industry, but it 255 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: was with Billie Eilish, the singer. Do you know her? 256 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: Love her? 257 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh my god, she's incredible. So long story short. 258 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: Her mom was my acting teacher in LA back when 259 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: she was not famous at all anyway, So me and 260 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: my acting teacher got along. She started inviting me to 261 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: these concerts and it was Billie Eilish, and like we'd 262 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: be in like a hall with one hundred people. Anyway, 263 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: flash forward to this year. I went down to Sydney 264 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: with my mom and her mom invited us to the 265 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: concert and I went backstage to meet her. Turns out 266 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: she is a crazy fan of H two O and 267 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: I just could not deal because I am so obsessed 268 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: with her and the fact that her, the biggest bloody 269 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: superstar in the world, knew who I was. It was 270 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: like this crazy, surreal moment. I was like on a 271 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: high for three months after. 272 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is so funny, crazy, I would 273 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: be the exact same. I like, I have her album 274 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: on repeat, and she's so interested because she does things 275 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: so different. Yeah, isn'ctually amazing. Yeah, I know she's She's 276 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: fab and so also do you have kind of like 277 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: your biggest lesson or your personal takeaway from working in 278 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, something that you've learned. I think I learned. 279 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: How strong I can be if I need to be. 280 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: Like I kind of look back at all that I 281 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: kind of went through and thought, oh I did that. 282 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: I you know, I got through it and I kept 283 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: forging forward. So yeah, I learned how strong I could be. 284 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: I love that. That's really beautiful and like kind of 285 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,479 Speaker 1: leading on from that. I know you spoke about previously 286 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: about having, you know, some issues with bullying, and in 287 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: this day and age with social media, I couldn't imagine 288 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: being a teenager now with Instagram and just being so 289 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: involved because back then, like I'm sure you were the same, 290 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: like social media just wasn't around, maybe MySpace, Facebook, And 291 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you if you have ever dealt 292 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: with cyberbullying and if so, how you had then dealt 293 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: with it, because of course I'm very lucky in regards 294 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: to I haven't had too much a cyberbullying, but you know, 295 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: here and there, I'll get a comment that will just 296 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: kind of rock me, and it's annoying because most of 297 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: the time, ninety nine percent of the time I'll have 298 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: positive feedback and comments, and then you get this one 299 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: negative troll and it really gets to you and it's like, 300 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: it's so annoying. But I guess that's just you know, 301 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: being a girl and being someone on social media. But 302 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: how do you deal with it? 303 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: When I was a teenager, I didn't deal with it 304 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: very well at all. My character on H two O 305 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: that I played Kim was a bit of a brat, 306 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: so I guess I wasn't the most likable character, and 307 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: people like think that that's you for some reason, Like 308 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: I wonder what these cyberbullis comment to actors that are 309 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: playing murderers or you know. But like I was just 310 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: a normal braddy, little child and copying all of this hate, 311 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: and yeah, I didn't deal with it. I remember crying 312 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: and crying and crying. I just don't understand. These bullies 313 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 2: don't know, you know, the other person on the receiving 314 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 2: and they don't know if they have anxiety, if they 315 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: have depression, and they don't know what this one comment 316 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: could do to another person. But I am very proud 317 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: to now say that it doesn't bother. 318 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: Me at all. I get way less now, I. 319 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: Think because I took a bit of a stand and 320 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: I did a video where I called out my bullies, 321 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: and I did it to teach bullies a lesson, but 322 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: I also did it to help other victims of bullying. 323 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: And since then I haven't got too much. But when 324 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: I do, I just remind myself, Okay, I need to 325 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: sympathize with the bully because they're obviously very unhappy in 326 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: their self if they're sitting behind their computer and writing 327 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: horrible things to you know, make them self feel superior, 328 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: put another person and down, and I don't want to 329 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: give them the satisfaction of their nasty words getting to me. 330 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: So I guess that's how I deal with it. 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Now let's get straight back into the episode. 361 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: Have you watched the Thirteen Reasons Why series? 362 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: Yes? 363 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: So, season three just came out and I saw an 364 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: article where because usually the other seasons I can't remember 365 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: if the second one but had a baker the main 366 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: character like narrates the first one, and then the last 367 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: one a new character who no one's like kind of 368 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: ever heard about I think my name is a Nari 369 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: or a Nari. 370 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've watched a few episodes, but yeah, I know 371 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: the one you're talking about. 372 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so she narrates it, and at the start 373 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: she's kind of and this is not a spoiler, but 374 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: she's talking to the police and then she's saying something 375 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: to police. But then the actual they show you a 376 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: video of what's happening, and it's kind of like she's 377 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: lying to the police. And so there was this whole 378 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: like uproar and this like big social media thing where 379 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: there was like memes made about her saying like who 380 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: is this character? And I hate that she's narrating it? 381 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: And then I saw that she actually had to disable 382 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: her personal Instagram because she was getting so much hate 383 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: and trolls. 384 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: Oh. 385 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: It was like that was just so crazy to me 386 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: because I'm like, she's obviously an actor, like a person acting, 387 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: and then the person who she is on her personal 388 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: Instagram is different, and it's so crazy that you know 389 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: that can happen even still today, it's actually really sad. 390 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just don't understand, like it's so 391 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: clear that these people are acting like I I'll never 392 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: forget I was in the middle of Cole's once and 393 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: while I say that these comments don't bother me anymore, 394 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: sometimes they do. And I got this comment and it 395 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: was like, why would you choose to play a character 396 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: like Kim, Why would you accept that role? You deserve 397 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: to die? 398 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa what, Oh my god, that 399 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: is so wild. That is ridiculous. 400 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: It's just so wild. But I guess these people are 401 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: just so hurt in themselves for some reason, they have 402 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: to put others down to make themselves feel better. So 403 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 2: I guess just got to sympathize with them and ignore it, like, 404 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: don't waste any of your precious energy on them. 405 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,239 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I love that, and that's something that 406 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: I do. Like if I do get a really mean 407 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: comment or a negative troll, I kind of think, you know, 408 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: something in their life must be happening for them to 409 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: go as low as, you know, saying this to someone 410 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: that they don't really know, So it's kind of like 411 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: having empathy for them. And I'm the exact same, like 412 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: I just I choose not to let it affect me. 413 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: And I'm also a big believer in you know, because 414 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: sometimes I do get so many comments on like whether 415 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: it's YouTube or podcast or Instagram that I try my 416 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: best to comment back to everyone and talk to everyone, 417 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: but you know, sometimes I just do not actually have 418 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: the capacity or time. So I'm not going to be 419 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: able to get back to every single positive comment. Why 420 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: would I waste my energy on you know, the one 421 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: or two negative Like, I just don't see that as 422 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: something I should. 423 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: Do exactly, And that's what they want, Like they want 424 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: a reaction out of you, So never give them what 425 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: they want exactly. 426 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: Love that, And so I want to move on and 427 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: talk about your blog past the smile. I absolutely love 428 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: the idea that you talk about positivity, law of attraction, 429 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: self love, dealing with negativity, balance, meditation, finding your right path, 430 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: and all those amazing things that I love to chat 431 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: about too. So I personally really believe in law of 432 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: attraction and I have my own vision board and I'm 433 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: a big believer in you know, having a believing in 434 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: vibrations and like attracts. Like, let's chat about your blog. 435 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: Can you tell us about it and what you wanted 436 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: to achieve with it? 437 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely so, I guess I started it to bring 438 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: more positivity into my life. I you know, was in 439 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: between La and here, and it was so crazy and 440 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 2: the acting industry was getting me down. So I started 441 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: it for that reason, not thinking anyone else would read it. 442 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: And then people started reading it, and people started messaging 443 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: me saying that my words were helping them, and it 444 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: was like this, like boom, oh my god, I have 445 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: a new passion. It felt so good to help people 446 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: like I just absolutely thrived off it. And I'm such 447 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: a big believer in the law of attraction too, like you. However, 448 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: I was using it for so many years with my 449 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: acting and it wasn't necessarily working for me. So as 450 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: a big believer still, I was doing all of this 451 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: research and all of this writing to try and figure 452 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: out what I was doing wrong. When I finally kind 453 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: of cracked the code as to what I was missing 454 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 2: in the law of attraction steps, I was like, I 455 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: need to tell the world about this. I want every 456 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: single person to know how to use the law of 457 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: attraction to their advantage, because it's magic, like you can 458 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: literally attract anything you want if you believe. And I 459 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: just that's so exciting. 460 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, and so I'm so intrigued. Can you 461 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: tell us about you know, that missing piece that you 462 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: realize that you weren't doing before, but now that you do. 463 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: Use a law of attraction. 464 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: Absolutely, so your listeners probably know a lot about the 465 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: law of attraction already from you. So there's kind of 466 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: like the steps that they say is ask, believe, receive. 467 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: One thing that I did is I added a fourth 468 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: step of gratitude, because I really believe that once you 469 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: receive your desire, you need to show gratitude. And gratitude 470 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: is the highest form of vibrational energy. So when you're 471 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: feeling grateful, you're vibrating at a really high level, automatically 472 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: attracting the most incredible things, people, opportunities, So it just 473 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: makes sense. And two, to attract anything new into your life, 474 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: you need to be grateful for what you have right now, 475 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: whether you like it or not. So that was one thing. 476 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 2: But the main thing that I wasn't doing correctly in 477 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: the step three of receive. You know, when you've asked 478 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 2: and you've kind of visualized and you're waiting on your 479 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: desire to come into fruition, is I wasn't surrendering properly. 480 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't giving my desire over to the universe and 481 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: just trusting the process, trusting perfect timing. I wasn't doing 482 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: any of that. I was kind of controlling my desire 483 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: instead of just trusting that the universe had my back. 484 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: I believed that I knew what was best for me, 485 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: and I didn't like, we don't know what's best for us. 486 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: I believe that the universe sees possibilities that we can't 487 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: yet see. And I absolutely love Gabby Bernstein's quote, which 488 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: is obstacles are detours in the right direction. And I 489 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: never had faith in that. I thought that an obstacle 490 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: was a negative, but now I can see that they 491 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: are positives, and when a negative happens, you just have 492 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: to surrender, knowing that something better is coming. I think 493 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: so much we use the law of attraction to attract 494 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 2: something that we think we want, but it might not 495 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: actually be what we need. So I kind of use 496 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: the mantra of I accept this or something better when 497 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to manifest something with the law of attraction. 498 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: But yet it's all about surrendering and just trusting the process. 499 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: I absolutely love that, And it's so funny because I 500 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: have that exact quote from Gabby on my vision board. 501 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh so good. 502 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: It's the best quote. 503 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: It's so good because I love her books, and I 504 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: actually bought her card deck and it's on her card deck, 505 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: and I have chosen that card and I've pinned it 506 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: to my vision board because it's so important when you 507 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: look at for example, like my life previously, there was 508 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: so many times where I didn't necessarily get what I 509 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: want or something happened. But now looking back, that was 510 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: such a building block to whether it was something later, 511 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: or something bigger and better or something more aligned. 512 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, it's so crazy when you look back. Hey, 513 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: like when I had I had kind of eight years 514 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: after H two O where I was basically putting my 515 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: heart and soul into acting and I just wasn't getting 516 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: any big roles, Like I was getting little ones here 517 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: and there, but I wasn't in my head becoming a 518 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: successful actor. And I was getting so so angry. And 519 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: I kept getting these signs from the universe to start 520 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: writing and to start speaking, and I'm the same. I 521 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: have Gabby's deck and I would draw cards that were 522 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: like telling me to, you know, start blogging and all 523 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: of this stuff. But I didn't want that. Well, I 524 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: thought I didn't want that because I was scared. I 525 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: didn't think I was good enough. I was overcome with 526 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: so many limiting beliefs. But now I look back and 527 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I wasn't getting those roles because I 528 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: was meant to do this, And now because I'm doing this, 529 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: I'm getting roles because I'm in a way more positive 530 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: headspace and I finally trusted the process and I'm going 531 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: with the flow and I'm listening, and that's when like 532 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: everything starts to come together. 533 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: So true. I love that. And definitely for me, it 534 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: was having faith because I don't really come from a 535 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: religious background, and you know, the word of faith I 536 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: always associated with religion, and so I rejected that word 537 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: a lot bit. When you think of faith, just having 538 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: faith that the universe like has your back, like it's 539 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: going to be okay, and you don't necessar necessarily know 540 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: how you're going to get there, but just having faith 541 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: that it's all going to happen in the right time 542 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: exactly how it should. 543 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely yeah. And it's so comforting to know that 544 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: we can lean on a power that's higher than us. 545 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: Like whenever I'm in a negative headspace or I don't 546 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: know what to do, I just turn it over and 547 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: I go, Okay, I'm going to give all of my 548 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: worries and my concerns over to the universe. I know 549 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: that they have my best interests at heart, and I'm 550 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: just going to enjoy this life that I'm so lucky 551 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: to live. And I think that's important too with goals, 552 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: Like that quote in between striving for our goals is 553 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: this thing called life that needs to be lived, Like 554 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: we're always chasing that best thing and we get one goal, 555 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: and we're always going to want something bigger and better, 556 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 2: Like you just got to kind of be happy in 557 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: the now and just trust that everything is coming in 558 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: the most perfect time. 559 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: So true. I absolutely love that. It's actually something I'm 560 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: trying to do at the moment. And for me, it's 561 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 1: about being more present. I'm pretty much the personality like 562 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm a high achiever and I'm always looking forward and 563 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: what's next and I want more and how can I 564 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: do this next thing instead of really, you know, celebrating 565 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: the small wins and stuff that I've already accomplished and 566 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: really living in the present of you know that quote 567 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: of like think back to I'm going to butcher it. 568 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: The gist is remember once. It's like, where you are 569 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: now you wanted to be there. 570 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: Also, my god, I literally wrote this in my last blog. 571 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: Really yeah, because. 572 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: It's very hard to stop and go, hang on a minute, 573 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm actually where I wanted to be, and I'm so 574 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: proud of myself for being here. We don't do that 575 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: because you know, there's so much pressure on social media 576 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: as well to be the best and strive for the 577 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: best and do all you can. But it's like, sometimes 578 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: you know, you're allowed to just chill and relax and 579 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: be proud of where you are now. You don't always 580 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: have to be productive, and I think too, the most 581 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: productive thing you can do is actually stop and meditate 582 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: or journal or watch some mindless TV. Like I feel 583 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: like the days where I'm trying to be productive and 584 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I got to get everything done, i won't 585 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: get anything done, but I will stop for a twenty 586 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: minute nap and then I will get so much more done. Yeah. 587 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: Re energize, fill your cup back up. Yeah, I love that, 588 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: And something I wanted to chat to about. This is 589 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: kind of throwing you a curveball, but I know you 590 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: believe and I've seen it on your blog and You've 591 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: spoken about it on social media, but what is your 592 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: thoughts on really coming into yourself? And I hope you 593 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: kind of know what I mean when I say this 594 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: and becoming your most authentic self. I feel like it's 595 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: very hard in this day and age where we're constantly 596 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: seeing things, whether it's you know, in your family, whether 597 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: it's on social media, whether it's in magazines or on 598 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: TV of like how we should be. And so how 599 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: do we sort of come into ourselves and really become 600 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: our most authentic selves, really feel aligned to, you know, 601 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: walk our own path or find our own purpose. 602 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that, and it's something I teach in 603 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: my courses. And it sounds cliche, but it's all about 604 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: listening to your heart and not confusing that with what 605 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: others may expect of you, whether it's your parents or 606 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: your friends, and not confusing listening to your heart with 607 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: the cheaper option or the safer option or the option 608 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: that just seems easier, you know, Like it's all about 609 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: like actually quietening your mind and really thinking what do 610 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: I actually desire and getting rid of fear as well. 611 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: I love the quote You and Me, just like I 612 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: love this quote. I love that quote but I love 613 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: the quote if you took fear away, what would you 614 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: be doing now? And I think asking yourself that question, 615 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 2: if you took all limiting beliefs and all fear, what 616 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: would you be doing? Like what do you really desire? 617 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, not confusing that with what others may expect 618 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: of you or the cheaper, the easier, the safer option. 619 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: Ah. I love that so much. It's so funny. Just 620 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: before we recorded, I actually recorded a solo episode talking 621 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: about overcoming fear. Oh my god, I can't wait for that. 622 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I think we think of fear 623 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: as this it's almost like this physical thing, and when 624 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: in reality, I know, obviously there's so many different circumstances 625 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: and everyone has it really different, and I don't want 626 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: to downplay that or think that I understand that's, you know, 627 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: all the fearful things that's happening in people's lives. But 628 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: something that I realize is I used to let fear 629 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: really kind of freeze me, and it used to take 630 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: away my choices. And I realized, like we all have 631 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: a choice in every situation, everything that happens, like we 632 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: actually have so much power and we have a choice 633 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: and it's realizing that fear is not this physical thing, 634 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: it's actually just a feeling. 635 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And fear isn't just being scared of something either. 636 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: It shows up when you're judging or when you're you 637 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 2: have those limiting beliefs, when you think you're not good enough, 638 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: like fear shows up in so many ways. It's yeah, 639 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: and it is. You're right. We have a choice. You 640 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: can either be scared and let it take over you, 641 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: or you can be scared and try and overcome it. 642 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: For me, it's really about doing like a mindset shift 643 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: of being like, you know, I have this choice, I 644 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: know what I want in life. It like this next choice, 645 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: does it align with my goals? Does it align with 646 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: my values? Like what am I going to do? And 647 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: just like figuring it out that way. 648 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I love that. 649 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: Well, we've just talked about so much. My last question 650 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: to you, well second last actually, so I know you 651 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: had these amazing events happening and that is so exciting. 652 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw, but I also just 653 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: recently did some podcast events and it's so different, Like 654 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: obviously we're recording and we're not face to face, we're 655 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: over a computer and It's amazing and I love that 656 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: I have this opportunity, but when you actually see people 657 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: in person and you have that connection, it really does 658 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: not compare. So I'm so excited. Can you tell us 659 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: a little bit about your events and what you do 660 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: in them? 661 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, And I did see your events and they 662 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: looked so incredible. I can't wait for your next to us. Yeah. 663 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: So I started my pass around the Smile events last 664 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: September and I've since had three, and I've also started 665 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 2: a course which is called a Guide to Happiness and 666 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 2: I'm on my second round of that now. I guess 667 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: for me, I just like you. I wanted to connect 668 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 2: with the people. I wanted to feel their energy. And 669 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: I think it was when I was reading this study. 670 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: I think it's called the Maharishi effect, and what they 671 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: do is they get one percent of a population together 672 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: to meditate, thinking positive thoughts, and in every little city 673 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: that they have done it, I think it's in the 674 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: United States, the crime rates have dropped like crazy. So 675 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 2: I read that and I was like, Wow, just the 676 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 2: power of people coming together and thinking positively and talking 677 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 2: about positive things and feeling uplifted is so powerful. So 678 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 2: I wanted to give it a go, and god, I 679 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 2: was so nervous. I woke up the first day of 680 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 2: my first event and I said to my mum, what 681 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 2: have I done? Like I took a huge leap of faith. 682 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: I was so nervous. I was, you know, I had 683 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: so much self doubta washing over me. But I was 684 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: just like, no, I've got to trust the universe. I'm 685 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: being pushed in this direction. And yeah, I talked about 686 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 2: you know, the law of attraction and finding your right 687 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 2: path and balance and manifesting. We meditate and we journal 688 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: and I haven't looked back since. So I'm very glad. 689 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: Like I said before that, you know, acting wasn't working 690 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 2: for me all of the time. So I was almost 691 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: pushed in this direction to start pass around a smile. 692 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: I resonate with that so much. That's exactly how I 693 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: felt with my events before. I was like, what have 694 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: I done? Like, no one's going to show up? Like, yes, 695 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: police literally like had told her I all tickets, and 696 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: in my head, I was like, no one's going to 697 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: be there, yeah. 698 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: One hundred. And you can let that stuff take over 699 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: you or you can choose to be like no, and 700 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 2: you know, you get your positive mattras out and you 701 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: forge forward and you do it, and then how proud 702 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: of yourself are you after doing something that is challenging, 703 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: Like it's just the best feeling. 704 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know. After I was like, oh 705 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: my god, I want to do a hundred more. Yes, 706 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: oh perfect. Well. My last question, and this is more 707 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: of like a selfish question because I love reading and 708 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: I love listening to podcasts obviously, but do you have 709 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: any recommendations for the audience or of something you're currently reading, watching, 710 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: or listening to that has kind of like motivated and 711 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: inspired you or is just like a good resource. 712 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like your followers will already know this 713 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 2: one from you, But I love The Universe Has your 714 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: Back by the Gabby Benstein. But my favorite all time 715 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: book in the whole the wide world is Don't Sweat 716 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: the Small Stuff by Richard Carlson. Have you heard of it? 717 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: I think I've heard of it, but I haven't read it. 718 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: Is that My gosh. 719 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 2: So he basically has one hundred lessons in there, and 720 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: they are the most simple lessons, but you read them 721 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my god, I do that, or 722 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: I need to stop that, or oh my God, that's 723 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: so simple, Like I have never resonated with a book 724 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: so much in my life. I'm going to read it 725 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 2: like a hundred times over. 726 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: Really yeah. 727 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually did a whole blog based on it 728 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 2: because I was just so like intrigued by him and 729 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 2: by what he. 730 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: Said and Who's it by Richard Carlson? 731 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: Richard Carlson. 732 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: And do you recommend like getting the actual physical book 733 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: or audible would be fine either or. 734 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: I think I mean I loved reading it because I 735 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: would take notes, like it's kind of the type of 736 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 2: book where you want to write some things down. 737 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank you so much. I'm going to get 738 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: onto that one hundred percent. But thank you so much 739 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: for taking the time today. And can you let the 740 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: audience know where they can find you? You know where 741 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: they can find your events and all that good stuff. 742 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, so pass around the smile dot com is my 743 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: blog and I have something really really exciting coming. I 744 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 2: actually thought I might tell your fans first. I haven't 745 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: even posted on my Instagram yet, but I'm actually coming 746 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 2: out with my own positive guidance card deck kind of 747 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 2: like how you said before you have Gabby is very similar. 748 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 1: That is so exciting at Cleo. 749 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. So in four weeks 750 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 2: I'll have them and then I on Instagram, I'm just 751 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 2: passed around the smile and then my personal one is 752 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: Cleo massy. 753 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: Ah amazing, And I'll make sure I put all the 754 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: links in and by this time, by the time the 755 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: episode goes live, your deck should be out, so I'll 756 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: make sure I link that too. 757 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: Oh perfect. Thank you so much, Georgie. 758 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: I thank you, Cleo, thanks so much for listening into 759 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: this week's episode. If you love to Rise and Conquer 760 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: and you're craving more community, I have got your girlfriend. 761 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: I was feeling the exact same. So I'm very excited 762 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: to announce that we have made a close Rise and 763 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: Conquer Facebook community group. To join our girl gang, head 764 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: to Facebook and search Rise and Conquer podcast community, or 765 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: head to the show notes for the link. I decided 766 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: to create this community for like minded women who is 767 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: searching for a safe and positive space for us to 768 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: share our stories, to ask for advice and interact together. Lastly, 769 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: if you know someone who would benefit from this episode, 770 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: please make sure you share it with them, or even 771 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: take a screenshot and share it on your Instagram stories. 772 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: I really really appreciate all the support, and this is 773 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: a total independent podcast, so any sort of sharing involved 774 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: I really really appreciate. Also, if you want to go 775 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: beyond this episode, check out our official Instagram at Rise 776 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: and Conquer dot Podcasts or my personal Instagram at Georgie Stevenson. 777 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: I hope you have an amazing day or night whenever 778 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: you're listening by for now and talk to you soon.