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Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jonesy and Amanda. This isn't a.

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Speaker 2: Game noun, no joking. Amount two hundred and two people

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Speaker 2: starting my course eight of us past.

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Speaker 1: You don't give.

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Speaker 2: Us who you are, where you've come from, and what

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Speaker 2: you do. The slate is white clean here. But remember

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Speaker 2: you will be cold, wet and miserable. You will suffer

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Speaker 2: and you will learn the hard way. Most of you

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Speaker 2: will find out who you truly are on this course.

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Speaker 2: They do what we tell them to do when we

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Speaker 2: tell them to do it.

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Speaker 1: If not, they can off well.

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Speaker 3: It has been some of the most intense, shocking and

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Speaker 3: heart stopping television many of us have ever seen. A

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Speaker 3: lot of it's very hard to watch. We've seen celebrities

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Speaker 3: on sas be objected to all kinds of brutal challenges.

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Speaker 3: But the ex Special Forces soldier who's been bringing them

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Speaker 3: to tears, he's using his non shouty voice with us

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Speaker 3: at Middleton.

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Speaker 1: Hello, he very.

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks, Well, you feel free to use your shouty

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Speaker 4: voice if you want.

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Speaker 3: If we deserve it, please feel free to go to

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Speaker 3: that with Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm not in work mode, so I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm in family mode, so you're lucky.

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Speaker 3: Well, you've got five children. Do you keep them in

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Speaker 3: line with your shouty voice? How do you discipline at home?

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Speaker 1: No, they keep me in place with their shouty voice.

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Speaker 1: I'm quite a soft touch when I come to father,

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Speaker 1: and so I take it out in celebrity.

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Speaker 4: That's the best way, right And then that's what I

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Speaker 4: noticed about the show, and Amanda and I have been

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Speaker 4: at odds about it, but I like how you stay

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Speaker 4: in character when you do the show, because that's the

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Speaker 4: important part of the show. Amanda sort of feels that

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Speaker 4: maybe you guys can be a bit too hard on

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Speaker 4: the celebrities, but if you're joining the sas, there's no

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Speaker 4: mucking around, as you say, yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, it's very important that we give them an authentic experience.

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Speaker 1: There's no point in going on. They're giving them an

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Speaker 1: army boot camp experience, a softy, touchy feely celebrity world

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Speaker 1: sort of bubble. You know, it's a special Forces selection process.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've got the most seasoned soul is in

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Speaker 1: the world that go on this cause and it's a

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Speaker 1: ninety five percent failure rate, so you know it's it's

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Speaker 1: not for the faint hearted. And if we didn't do

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Speaker 1: our job and we didn't give them that authenticity, then

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Speaker 1: they'd get nothing out of it.

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Speaker 3: What about the cricketer Mitchell Johnson. The last we see

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Speaker 3: of him, he is him in tears. He said that

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Speaker 3: he'd had suffered from depression. He's in tears to his

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Speaker 3: wife on the phone saying, I feel like I haven't

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Speaker 3: been successful here. That's the last we see of him.

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Speaker 3: Does he get some sort of counseling or some support,

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Speaker 3: because it's not everyone's going to have a great experience

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Speaker 3: on that show.

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Speaker 1: No. Absolutely, We're not there to ultimately to break people

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Speaker 1: down and you know, just to throw them in the

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Speaker 1: garbage can. That's not what it's about. We're there to

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Speaker 1: identify something in them, whether it's a physical hurd or

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Speaker 1: a psychological hurdle that they can't get over. We push

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Speaker 1: them to the extreme. So either get to that boundary

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Speaker 1: or beyond it. Now, some people that you know, they

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Speaker 1: get to a and they don't realize how good it's

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Speaker 1: done them until they've left the course. Now to speak

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Speaker 1: to speak to Mitch Johnson, I speak to him regularly.

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Speaker 1: You know, he got so much out of the course.

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Speaker 1: He wished that he could gld have carried on, but

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Speaker 1: during that moment it was his time. But now he

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Speaker 1: looks back on the on the course with fond memories

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Speaker 1: and he realized how hard it is, and he has

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Speaker 1: a great appreciation now for for for the military around

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Speaker 1: the world. So you know it might come across his heart,

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Speaker 1: but he certainly got something doubt of it. He's a

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Speaker 1: great guy and you know, I'd love to have him

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Speaker 1: back on on the on the on the second course.

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Speaker 1: That would be great to have him back on there.

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Speaker 4: How do you think down down the track, like so

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Speaker 4: obviously this will come back for another season, how do

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Speaker 4: you think it will go? Because people I think like

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Speaker 4: for az Doranie for example, I don't think he I

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Speaker 4: don't think he knew what he was getting himself into

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Speaker 4: until he was into it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the celebrities don't know what they're

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Speaker 1: getting themselves into, even if they've done their homework on

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Speaker 1: the course, even if they've done you know a bit

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Speaker 1: of background sort of checked on what we do or

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Speaker 1: the selection process is about. You know, there's different stages

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Speaker 1: to selection, and in between those stages there's so many

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Speaker 1: different modules and on selection there is probably twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: different modules per stage, but we can only afford because

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Speaker 1: it's a condensed and diluted version, we can only afford

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Speaker 1: to put three or four modules in per stage. So

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Speaker 1: basically we have the liberty of plugging and playing. So

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Speaker 1: we will definitely keep them on their toes every time

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Speaker 1: a new course comes into fruition. But that's the whole

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Speaker 1: point about it. They think they second guess on what's coming,

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Speaker 1: and they think they know what's coming, but ultimately that's

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Speaker 1: the worse mistake that you can make because the moment

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Speaker 1: that doesn't come into transition or it doesn't pan out

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Speaker 1: that way, it really messes with you psychologically. And then

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Speaker 1: once we've got you psychologically, it's game over. So people

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Speaker 1: like for us, he had a rude awakening, you know,

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Speaker 1: he had a rude awakening. Definitely, for sure, sure, sure

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Speaker 1: we join and Amanda