1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Well, some women like in Peri Menopause to a marathon. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Others are Nai Ninja Warrior course and Rebecca Madden should know. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: She was the host of Australian Ninja Warrior and she's 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: lived to tell the tale. We worked together in radio 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: over twenty years ago. Gosh was it two decades and 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: had the best long chat when we caught up, So 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: long in fact, that I've made it into a two 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: episode feature to round out Series two of Rage Against 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: the Menopause. Here she is media personality Beck Madden in 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: the Ninja Course. That is Peri menopause, menopause, It's coming 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: for you, no matter what. 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: Let's build a village of support. Why is it so 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: damn hot in here? 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Menopause is so hot right now? 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: I think them only in menopause. 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Women just want to feel heard. 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: Rage Against the Menopause Really excited for this episode because 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: I have a dear friend and someone who I am 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: so so proud of. Oh I am that's Rebecca Madden, 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: TV presenter and journalist. Beck and I We started working 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: together at Nova early two thousands. 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, can you believe? Yeah would have been. 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: And watching your growth and rise to stardom has just 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: been no stop. It has just been one of the 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: most joyful experiences. 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm done. 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: Can I leave now? I'm happy? 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: I am cooked. 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: So you're currently chief sports presenter for seven years Melbourne 30 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 2: my door seeing you on my screen each night. 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: How are you enjoying it being in the big chair. 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: It's great. I've done a lot of weekend work my 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: entire life, you know. And when I give talks a 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: lot to you know, young journos or just women or 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: wherever I'm talking, I do a lot of speaking engagements. 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: You know. When I say to them, the thing that 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: nearly makes them fall on the floor is when I say, 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: for the first twelve year years of my career, I 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: did not have a Christmas Day or a New Year's Eve, 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: or of this or that, or a public holiday or 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: this or are that so short answer? I am loving it. 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: I've moved to Monday to Friday, which is. 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: God how refreshing to be normal. 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: I feel like I've won the lottery. Don't tell my 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: boss that he probably won't play me, but I feel 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: like I've won the lottery because Monday to Friday. While 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: it's a little bit more challenging with the school situation, 48 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: my little girls in grade one that just having a 49 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: normal existence schedule is wonderful, and also having a day 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: off with my husband because we were always ships that 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: are passing the night and while we're both busy, it's 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: beautiful to have I can plan things on the weekend. 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but not only that. 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: If Ruby, your little girl, who is adorable, she's probably 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: into a sport or a dance and it means that 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: you know the kids want you. 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do, of course they do. They do. There 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: is a trade off though with that, in the fact 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: that I can't be there, but nothing's ever perfect. I 60 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: can't be there for school pickup. Yeah, I'm never there 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: for school pickup, I'm never there for dinner, and I'm 62 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: never there for after school activities. So that is the 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: trade off. Yes, but I explained to Ruby that you know, 64 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: we can do wonderful things on the weekend, whereas Mummy 65 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: would always usually have to go to work. 66 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: So but think of the example that you're giving her 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: as well. Though Beck now. 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: Does she think she understands it? 69 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: Seriously, I used to think that with Audrey, who's fourteen now, 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: there's always that guilt of you know, Chris is there 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: in the morning and still is that's how we work. 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: And then I'm there in the afternoon brain dead mind 73 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: you and not. 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: Completely not functioning, And so that goes over in my 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: mind like a washing machine all the time of yes, 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm there, but how much am I really there? 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: And sometimes I'm grumpy and I'm tired, of. 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: Course, but that's normal. But even if you didn't work 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: betraying her that every mum that had four kids would 80 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: say exactly the same, Right, that's right. Nothing's perfect. 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: No, it's not, it's not. But I think the example 82 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: that your begiving Ruby is just so so crucial and 83 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: it's brilliant. Do you love being a mum? It didn't come. 84 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: Easy for you? Oh my god, it didn't for me. 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: No, it was probably that was the hardest thing I've 86 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: ever done in my entire life. Yeah, circumstances meant that 87 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: I sort of left it late. Wasn't planned. Anybody listening, 88 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: is it ever? Yeah, I know, but anybody listening ton'tally. 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: It too late because it makes it really difficult. 90 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: But circumstances, you don't know what's ahead of you, and 91 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: you know, some people can't fel pregnant at twenty two, 92 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: So who knows. Yeah, it was really difficult. I have 93 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: talked about it before, but you know, happy to briefly 94 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: sort of tell you the story, not that you don't 95 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: already know, but yeah, we tried for about two years. 96 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: Nothing was sort of working, although I kept on saying, 97 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a problem. In my head, I 98 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: don't think there's a problem. My husband was traveling all 99 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: the time, which means he wasn't home exactly on the 100 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: right day, in the right hour. You know, when I 101 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: was doing I think I was doing breakfast hours back then. 102 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 3: You know, you're well aware of that. You're tired, you know, 103 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: you're getting up, your body clocks all out of whack. 104 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: We sometimes having an afternoon nap da da da da da. 105 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: So I didn't really think there was a problem. I 106 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: just used to think, oh, we're just never together at 107 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: the right time, et cetera, et cetera. And then yeah, 108 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: it didn't really work. And then I went to IVF 109 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: and then I that didn't really work. I wasn't getting 110 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: a lot of eggs at all. So it was like, 111 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: so I would do around and you know, I would 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: hear people say, oh, I got eight eggs around and 113 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, they like they retrieved four and 114 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: then I had one good one, so it was just 115 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: one shot with me. And then I look back on 116 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: that and I'm like, but was it really good or 117 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: did they just say that? 118 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. 119 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: I'm a bit skeptical. I was like, And then we 120 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: did you know, the transfer on day three, and then 121 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: we left it to day five and did all the 122 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: da da da. Anyway, it did not work. Short story, 123 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: short answer, it did not work, and we gave up. Yep, 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: and we had spent a lot of money, as everybody has, 125 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: and it is so draining, and I probably didn't add up. 126 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: Did you ever add up? 127 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: No? 128 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to. No, I didn't add up because 129 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: it's just I notice that it's just. 130 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: Money, yeah, correct, And the bigger cost is just so much, 131 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: so much larger. Isn't it like it's money, it's it's irrelevant, 132 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: it's irrelevant. 133 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: It's you know. 134 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: So then it was just nearing my birthday and my 135 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 3: husband said, let's just get away, and I started googling 136 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: dogs as you do, as I do. I need a baby. 137 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a dog. I'm gonna have a fur 138 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: baby instead, and it's going to be great. And you know, 139 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: I had this conversation with myself. I had this conversation 140 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: with my husband that said, you. 141 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Come to peace with it, don't you do? 142 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: And I said, you know, I love my work, I 143 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: love you. It doesn't mean i'm I've got you know, 144 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: lots of nieces. They'll probably have children on Monday. I'll 145 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: be this great aunt in the war. You'll be the 146 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: greatest aunt in the world. And I will be very 147 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: fulfilled as a person. And I really became at peace 148 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: with that. Then we went to Koalia. We booked a 149 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: very very swanky and I just know this story so well. 150 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: So we went to Kualia and during IVF and trying 151 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: to get pregnant, I did everything like you know, fish slapping. 152 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: Over your back, I like taking this, taking that, doing this, 153 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: meditating everythinging bowls, yes, God, no, you throw it at me. 154 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: And I have done to do the moxie. 155 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: No, that's where they burn like an incense stick over 156 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: your sort of. 157 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: For your what You're not gonna get pregnant with an 158 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: incense stick for trainers? 159 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: Is that not what happens? Maybe that was the problem 160 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: when I wasn't getting pregnant but yeah, I know what 161 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: you mean. 162 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: You would stand on your head or two hours a 163 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: day of fact, course, every possible. 164 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: I did crystals. You'll laugh at this. 165 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: Our local car dealership, right, I'd bought this car with 166 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: no no, it gets. 167 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: Sex in the back of the car. Come on, people 168 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: have been doing that forever the trainer. 169 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: It's too good in for servicing anyway. I got servicing, 170 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: not for me, for the car anyway. The girl who. 171 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: Was working in the office said, oh, have you got children? 172 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: You know, just conversation. 173 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: I said, oh, no, you know, we've actually been trying. 174 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: You just landed that in her lap. She asked. 175 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: Anyway. 176 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: Her mother had just got back from Turkey and she 177 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: had brought back with her for her sister this sand 178 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: from a tomb, and it was this saint. And if 179 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: you collect this sand from the tomb and you plant 180 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: it in your garden and you water it, it's said 181 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: to give women who want a baby a baby. 182 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: So that's how desperate eye was. 183 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: You'd grow one in the garden, cabbage patch baby anyway, 184 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: So that's how desperate I was. I'd go out with 185 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: a bucket and water this dam. 186 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: You know what it is? Okay, sorry, sorry, it's having 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: hot What was Chris doing when you were watering the 188 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: patch of what? 189 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: He was going right along with it. He was going 190 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: right along with it. I also remember I had a 191 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: bath filled with rosemary. So this clairvoyance said you need 192 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: to have a bath each night with fresh rosemary springs. 193 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: So it was going up. 194 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: You would have been tasted like a rack of lamb. 195 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Was itchy as hell. Let's just make my skin really itchy. 196 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: But this is what we do. You know, of course 197 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: you do, of course you do. I went to meditate 198 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: all that sort of thing. Yes, what was what was 199 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: the question, So you're I'm at Kualia. That's right. I'm 200 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: at Kualia. Very expensive, but not as expensive as IVF. 201 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: That's true. Drop in the ocean's so, I said, you know, 202 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: I didn't drink. I didn't. Also, I didn't have coffee, 203 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: and I love coffee, so I didn't have coffee for 204 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: about probably four or five years. To be honest, I 205 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: didn't do anything. I didn't drink all that stuff. Qualia 206 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: swam in the pool, had hot paths ate so much seafood, 207 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: drank myself stupid, you know, all the stuff. I got bregnant, obviously, 208 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: I didn't know naturally. Did you not know this? No? 209 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: I thought Ruby was ivy F. 210 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: No, Oh my god. 211 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: The ords was natural in the end as well. So 212 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: when we gave up. 213 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: Yes, but it's sort of irritating, you know what, because 214 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: people say, oh, you just relax, Oh you just need 215 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: a holiday. 216 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: I want a holiday. 217 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: You just relaxed. But it's like I was relaxed for 218 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: the two years. So anyway, so she was wow, Yes, 219 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: so I will always remember, Actually I haven't been back. 220 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: Maybe I should go back. She's ten and leave her 221 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 3: at home, but. 222 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: I won't be getting pregnant again, as that shit SD 223 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: isn't that great? 224 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: I think it is. 225 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: I was the same, like you, you do give up, 226 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 2: but then you think if I just unnecessarily put us 227 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: through all that grief of IVF and like you don't care, 228 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: like it's irrelevant. Really, you've got your baby and she's perfect, 229 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: and that's all that all that matters, isn't it. 230 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: She is the best thing in my entire life, also 231 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: my husband. She's just I you know, I was sitting 232 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: down with her last night and we were doing some 233 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: reading and I was just staring at her. Oh my gosh, 234 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna cry, and I was just staring at her 235 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: and I was like, you are everything. 236 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. They put everything into perspective to me. Yeah, 237 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: And then I think, oh god, if I didn't have her, Yeah, 238 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: but then I would You don't know what you don't know. 239 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry tears. But she's just perfection. Yeah, yeah 240 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: she is. And what a great mum she's got as well. 241 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: I noticed something on your Instagram recently which was really funny. 242 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: You're up to that stage with rubes about the birds 243 00:11:59,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: and the bee. 244 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 245 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: So what happened? Tell me, did she come home from school? 246 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: No, she's just sort of been asking. So she is 247 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 3: an animal lover, right, and she watches documentaries like every 248 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: day she watches Dorilliant. She watches documentaries about lions and 249 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: tigers and cheetahs and Da Da dah the world and 250 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: dinosaurs and fifteen million years ago, because mummy, when was 251 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: fifteen million years ago? I'm like, well, I wasn't alive, 252 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: you know. She loves that. And I sort of thought, 253 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: by watching these documentaries because obviously it's the circle of life, 254 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: that she would have sort of worked it out for herself. 255 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 3: But I could bypass this conversation. No such luck. But no, 256 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: so she is at the stage and I'm oh, I 257 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: feel terrible because I've still put it off. I've just 258 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: keep putting it off. I say, it's a very long conversation, 259 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: or if I tell you the truth, it could be 260 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: very short because honestly. 261 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: But you know what, we don't give them enough credit 262 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: because I think I've done this with Audrey. 263 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. 264 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: I have no bouty of it where you think they 265 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: don't know, but guess what they know so much. 266 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: She's only did. 267 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: But she's an intelligent little girl. Look at you as 268 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: she's not an idiot. 269 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: I know that. But honestly, Petraya, when you say it 270 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: out loud to a seven year old, it's disgusting, it's disgusting. 271 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: No, but no, but you call bodybits the body bits? 272 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: Don't you like their proper names and stuff? 273 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: Yes, but not if we're saying like if we're saying, 274 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: did you wash your whatever? Whatever? Yeah, like we might 275 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 3: have a little nickname, but she clearly knows them. 276 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 277 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: Look, I think, just what about where did I come from? 278 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: That's what we did with the words. It's a brilliant book. 279 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: Excuse me, I googled it because I google where did 280 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: you come from? Have you seen it? 281 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got it at home. 282 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: But the mum and daddy getting into the bar, it's 283 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: like the third page. I'm like, that's time to get 284 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: in the bar together. And then there's got so much 285 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: buby air everyone. 286 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: Well there's a published bab the seventies, so it's a. 287 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: Bit outdra Anyway, I've got a lot of advice on Instagram. 288 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: I do like Instagram. And when I'm going to order 289 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: a couple of the more modern books without the excess 290 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: pubic care because people will be like, what is that? 291 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: It's really good funny and dad's got like a beer 292 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: button stuff. 293 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: Or transcend better shape than that? Can we say exactly? 294 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: And and I will have that chat but it's scary? 295 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 3: Did you find it scary? Am I just totally whim No? 296 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: No, totally? 297 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: What do you say? 298 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: Do you always think that you're doing it wrong? You 299 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: always think that you're. 300 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: Doing we're good with it? Like she gets the egg 301 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: and da da, DA's yes, but she understands. Yeah, She's like, 302 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: but how does it grow? Why doesn't it grow? 303 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: Now? 304 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: Good question? 305 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: And I'm just like, oh, you dis close your eyes 306 00:14:53,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: and wish. Initially, Rebecca U Audrey. 307 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: Initially sort of looked at Chris like, oh you did 308 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: what what I mean, you're too a foul But she's 309 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: probably gonna think that anyway, you know, like, let's speak, 310 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: we don't want to think about our parents having sex. 311 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: No, I know that was the embarrassing thing when I 312 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: said to my parents, and still at the age of whatever, 313 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: I was just nearly forty, I said, I'm pregnant. Now 314 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: don't know I've had sex. 315 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? I know, I was a saying. 316 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: I mean goodness, I was ashamed to tell them it 317 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: was the first time. Listen you used to host Australian 318 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: Ninja Warrior. 319 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: Yes, I was only thinking about that the other day. 320 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: How does that compare to like the ninja course that is? 321 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: Perimenopause didn't help train you for that? 322 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: Oh, the ups and downs are falling off from me unexpected, 323 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: and the highs and lows exactly the same. Yeah, pretty 324 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: much exactly the same. It's funny, I don't I don't 325 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: feel old enough to be talking about Yeah. Yeah, it's 326 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: so stupid, isn't it. But I literally feel like, you know, 327 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: having a baby, and then getting through all that. I've 328 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: sort of combined all of it, and it's not supposed 329 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: to be mush. Yeah, it's not supposed to be like this. 330 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: You're supposed to. 331 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: Have your baby sort of you know, late twenties, thirties, 332 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: and then you're supposed to have a bit of a 333 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: break to get back to normal. But I've just sort of, yeah, 334 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: put it all together, which probably is not advisable. It's 335 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: been really interesting. I don't think I have suffered like 336 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: some women. I think some women just just dealt an 337 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: really unfair hand. Although I had endometriosis really badly and 338 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons I couldn't feel pregnant, and 339 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: I've had terrible period pay my whole life. So I 340 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: feel like maybe someone's looking after me, and maybe I'm. 341 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Going to give you end Yeah, you think you'd hope, So. 342 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. But yeah, it's been a really interesting one. 343 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: I have been quite aware of it. I think just 344 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 3: my background being a journalist, I'm very inquisitive, very inquisitive. 345 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: I ask a lot, I listen a lot, I read 346 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: a lot. At work. A lot of people call me 347 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: doctor Beck because I seem to have an answer forever 348 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: I think I think I missed my calling. I'm like, 349 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: you really initiate. It might be this. It might be 350 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: I don't know why they always go what do you 351 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: think of with children or whatever? I'm like, oh, I said, 352 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: don't take my word for it. However, I think it 353 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: might be his having never seen the child, never seen 354 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: the thing, I'm habit of diagnose you. So, yeah, the 355 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: menopause thing was interesting. I think it sort of snuck 356 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: up on me. I have a great relationship with my 357 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 3: GP Mark. I really love him, Mark Carrington. I'll give 358 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: you a shout out because I think he's great. He's 359 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 3: very understanding. So for the last sort of, you know, 360 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: five years, every time I've gone to the doctor, as 361 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: I said, oh, hey, what about do you think I'm 362 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 3: dada da da da? And I don't know if he's 363 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: got a thick sixth sense, but he sort of looked 364 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: at me and goes, N, I don't think you no, 365 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: you're not quite no. I don't think so like, you're 366 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 3: not quite there yet, And I'll be like no, But 367 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: you know the other day he goes, no, that's just 368 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: normal crazy behavior, not crazy crazy behavior. 369 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: There's a difference to differentiate because We do blame a 370 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: lot for on perimenopause. We think it's that, and it 371 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: may not necessarily because the symptoms are just so wide. 372 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: Exactly well, that's actually, to be honest, with a lot 373 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: of women's not that this is an illness, but with 374 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: a lot of women's illnesses or conditions we go through. 375 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 3: Like you know, you see with fifty things you can have. 376 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 3: It's your headaches, weight gain, tiredness. I'm like, yeah, tic tick, 377 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: tic tick tick every day, So you know, so I 378 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: think it's snuck up on me. To be honest, I 379 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: sort of remember going to the doctor about twelve months earlier. 380 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying, oh, I sort of think I'm closed. I 381 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 3: think I'm perimenopause or don't. He's like, ah, anyway, he's 382 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: more trained than me, even though so it's like anyway, 383 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: So it was pretty much this time last year, to 384 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 3: be honest, I was getting ready for a function, a 385 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: very big function. It's a Grand Final Eve luncheon, massive huge, 386 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: there's like fourteen hundred people and predominantly men at Crown. 387 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: So I've hosted it for a couple of years with 388 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: Hamish McGlocklin. So I'm getting it and it's a very 389 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: busy week for me, Grand Final week. There's so many 390 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: things on, there's extra commitments, lots happening. So I was 391 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 3: getting ready for this luncheon and I committed one of 392 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: my sins which I don't usually do, and that's not 393 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: being prepared. The night before. I had left it till 394 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: that morning. 395 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: That's not like you. 396 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: No. I had left it till the morning to print 397 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: out my notes, etc. I'd done my prep. I knew 398 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: what I was doing, but it was quite complex. The 399 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: hosting gig was quite complex. There was I had guests 400 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: on stage. I was throwing to vision, old vision of 401 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: them playing football. Da da da da dah. You know, 402 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: fourteen hundred people men Crown Palladium noisy, noisy my boss 403 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: and is when I say my boss, I mean Kerry 404 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: Stokes is in the front row. It's a big luncheon. 405 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 3: But to be honest, I don't get very stressed or 406 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: nervous these days about those types of things because I've 407 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: done them. And that's not being arrogant. It's just that 408 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: I've done it a lot. So yes, I like to 409 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: be prepared. I am always prepared. Anyway. This morning Trent 410 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: was home. I don't know why I was home, but 411 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: he was home, and I couldn't get the printer working. 412 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: I mean, that's normal, and that's enough to send anybody 413 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: over the edge, but I could not get so I 414 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: had the information on my phone, but I couldn't print 415 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: it from my printer. 416 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: School like me, Yeah, I've got to have a bit 417 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: of paper hand. 418 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: And it wasn't It was stupidly. I could have got 419 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: my notes when I arrived, but I like to have 420 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: my own and I like to do my own work 421 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: and highlighting. And I'm old school. I use a pan. 422 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: So I was trying to get this printer and nothing 423 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: was going right in the morning. I don't know, it 424 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: just it just felt really bad. Really, I felt really off, 425 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 3: really really off. I was trying to get the printer working. 426 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: I was having an absolute meltdown because time is yeah, 427 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: it's I gotta be there. 428 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: You're a real stickler for time. I'm a real stick 429 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: early for the internet. 430 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: Today. I knew you would be. I'm a real stickler 431 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: for time because I'm news and if something's happening at 432 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: six oh one, it's happening at six oh one, like 433 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: we're on the TV. You can't be late. You know 434 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: for the news that starts at six o'clock you are there, 435 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: so yes, I'm a stickler for time. So I was 436 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: having a fight with a printer. It would not print. 437 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: Usually I would just work it out. I was having 438 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 3: a complete meltdown. I was crying. I just had my 439 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: makeup done. I was crying, very unusual for me. Trent 440 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: was going, what is happening. I said, I can't get 441 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 3: this printer working. Da da da da da. He was 442 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: so he did, and usually he's really good. He couldn't 443 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: get it working either, and he could see the state 444 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: I was in, so he just quietly left and went 445 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: to office works to try and get a lead to 446 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: print from this to this to make it easier rather 447 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 3: than going through the bluetooth. Because the bluetooth wasn't connected. 448 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: He was trying to print, he couldn't print it. I 449 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: was standing there in my dress and I felt like 450 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: I was melting into the floor. I was hot. I was. 451 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: God like, full on panic attack. 452 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 3: I've never had a panic attack, but I think that's 453 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 3: what a panic attack feels like. I was sort of shaking, 454 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: which is very strange. Never had that feeling before. I honestly, 455 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: it was an outer body experience, melting into the floor, shaking, sweating, 456 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: crying so hot, could not think. I thought, something is 457 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 3: so wrong with me. I don't have time for this. 458 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: I've got to be on stage in front of fourteen 459 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: hundred men at Crown Casino in about forty five minutes. 460 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 3: Finally something happened, Trent, I got something. I got something. 461 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: It wasn't perfect, but I got something. And then I 462 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: had pantyhose on and I leant over. Yeah, hot, but 463 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: I leant over to try so I got my script. 464 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 3: I was not very good. I had to walk into 465 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 3: the bathroom, look at myself in the mirror and say, 466 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: get yourself together. You've got to be on stage very soon. 467 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 3: What is happening. Whatever is happening, we will deal with later. 468 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: I don't have time for this now. I leant over 469 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: to put my shoes on, and I had some little 470 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: jewels on my top of my thing. I leant over. 471 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: The jewel got stuck in my stocking and ripped the 472 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: most enormous hole in my stocking. 473 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, did you just want to go back to bed? 474 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: It's like, let's have this day another day. Nothing was going. 475 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: Nothing, and I know these I know these things sound trivial. 476 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: The printer didn't work, and I've got a ladder in. 477 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: My stocking thing after the next Yeah. 478 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: So I was late then so that I had another 479 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 3: pair of panty hose, but they were two light. So 480 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: then I had like white legs, and I wanted brown leaves. 481 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: You hadn't tanned, God forbid. 482 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: But it gets worse, ending Part one with Rebecca Madden 483 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: on a cliffhanger. What happens next? Does she get herself 484 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: together and smash her corporate hosting gig or does perimenopause 485 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: win out in the end. Be listening to part two 486 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: of My Chat with Rebecca Madden to find out that's 487 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 2: the final episode of season two of Rage Against the Menopause. 488 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 2: I'm Petrina jiants Rage Against the Menopause.