1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: This is the Happy Family's podcast with doctor Justin Kilson, 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: where Luke and Susie our husband and wife radio team 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: with three young boys. This is the podcast for the 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants some answers. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Now. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: I constantly find myself getting angry with my kids, going 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 3: oh no, I've got to stop or otherwise I'll have 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: to confess this to Justin. I can't do it. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: He's in my head everything. 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm getting I'm getting mad too quickly, he joins 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: us to talk about that topic right now, Doctor Justinkilson. 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Hello, I'm waiting for us to give me father for 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 2: I've seen I confessional all. 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: You feel that way. 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: I love the phrasing of this because we're talking about 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: turning anger around. And I really like it because at 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: my kids prep class, they talk about turning their choices around, 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: and so if they make a bad choice, they've got 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: to turn their choices around and make a good choice. 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: So I like I like the phrasing of it. It 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: works for me. It's consistent with my life. 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really I'm really pleased that we're tapping into 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: that for you. I think that there's I think that 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: there's some pretty strong some pretty strong biblical reasons for 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: us to step away from anger. I like how it 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: says in Matthew chapter five that who is angry with 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: his brother will be in danger of the judgment. Jesus 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: says that we're not supposed to be angry. The really 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: interesting thing there is it says without a cause, who 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: was angry without a cause will be in danger of it. 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: But if we look at earlier, earlier translations of the scriptures, 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: we find that that was incertain by someone who obviously 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: had a problem with what Jesus said. Well, surely there's 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: a reason every now and again, but there is no 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: There is no cause. Jesus teaching is quite clearly we 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: should not be angry with our brother or with our child. 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: And if you look at what Paul said, we're supposed 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: to raise our children with nurture and with love, and 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: there's so many scriptures that tell us the fruits of 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: the spirit. Anger is not one of the fruits of 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: the spirit. If we're raising our children with the spirit 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: guiding us, we shouldn't be angry at them, even when 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: they challenge us and do stuff that is wrong. 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: So we understand that being angry with our kids is 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: not what we want to do. Although sometimes they do 46 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: things which infuriate us, they give us reason. So how 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: do we turn it around? 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: Though? 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: Because we know it's not how we want to act, 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: what we say and what we do when we're angry, 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: is not the parents that we want to be. How 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: do we turn it around? 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: Me? Let me give you four solutions. Here's my first one. 54 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: Pretend that your Aunt Mary, Because you know how Aunt 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: Mary never gets cranky at the kids. She always finds 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: a way to be kind and to smile at them 57 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: when they do that thing. And you know aunt Mary 58 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: actually loves the one who is the biggest challenge. She'll say, 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: I'm allowed to have a favorite, and that one is 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: my favorite, even though that's the one that you just go, 61 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: oh my goodness, this kid is killing me. Pretend that 62 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 2: your Aunt Mary just just be her for a moment 63 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: when your child's challenging you, or if that's not going 64 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: to work for you, Pretend that the child who is 65 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: challenging you is one of your neighbor's children and your 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: can't send them home. 67 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we are calmer with them, aren't we. Hey, 68 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: But just back to the ut Mary thing for a second. 69 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: Am I allowed to actually have an Aunt Mary costume. 70 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: You know what, if Susie's okay with that and you 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 2: feel comfortable with that and the stockings don't get caught 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: in your leg hairs, then you get dressed up as 73 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: Aun't Mary and walk up. In fact, that's a really 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: nice way to sort of segue into my second idea. 75 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: Well, let's get that segue underway. Up next, as we're 76 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: talking about turning your anger around. 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You 92 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: have four solutions for us, Justin the first one you've 93 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: given us is to pretend that we are Aunt Mary 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: point number two. 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: My second idea is that we need to use humor more. 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: You know, those challenging situations when we're getting really really stressed. 97 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: Humour can be the most wonderful way to reduce the 98 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: stress and take away the anger. I'll give you an example. 99 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: A couple of mornings ago, my children were going crazy. 100 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: Things were not good, and one of them did something 101 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: that was particularly upsetting, really really bad, and I just 102 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: felt in my soul I was about to explode and 103 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: take it out on this child. And we were in 104 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: the kitchen. I grabbed you know the dish washing gloves 105 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 2: near the rubber gloves that you used for the dishes, 106 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: or once upon a time before we had dishwashers, we 107 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: used them. There was one of those on the bench. 108 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: I picked it up and I stretched in my hands. 109 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: I was thinking I was going to hurt her with it, 110 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: and I had an idea, so I stretched it even 111 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: more and I pulled it over my head, pulled it 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: down over my eyes until it covered my nose. I 113 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: put my hands on my ears so that the glove 114 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: was really attached to my head, very firmly, and then 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: I said, I'm so angry. I think I'm going to explode. 116 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: And then I breathed out through my nose. And I 117 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: kept on breathing Instagram out and out through my nose, 118 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: and the glove was getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 119 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: And I said, you know, by now, this glove is 120 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: so big that if anybody's nearby, they're going to get 121 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: hammered with this. And we turned it into this great, 122 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: big joke, and eventually the glove exploded in the kitchen, 123 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: and then I looked at the kids and I said, oh, 124 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: I shouldn't do that before blowing unless I've blown my 125 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: nose next time. I thought it was the funniest, most 126 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: disgusting thing ever, but it completely changed the situation. I 127 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: remember one time I was arguing with one of my 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: siblings and my mum made us lay down and stare 129 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: at the ceiling. We're not allowed to look at each other. 130 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: We had to argue with each other while staring at 131 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: the ceiling. We ended up in stitches. A good friend 132 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: of mine, his daughter was on her l plates. She 133 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: missed a corner completely and she ended up crashing into 134 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: the bottom of a sign at a petrol station, you know, 135 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: the big sort of VP shel whatever Caltech sign. She 136 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: just crashed into the bottom of this sign. The whole 137 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: family was in the car. This friend of mine, he 138 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: looked at his daughter, and then he looked at everyone 139 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: in the back seat of the car, and then he 140 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: smiled and said, well, while we're here, does anyone need 141 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: anything to eat. 142 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: And use? 143 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 2: When we use humor to diffuse anger. When we use humor, 144 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: what we do is we take all the tension out 145 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: of the situation. We calm everybody down instantly, and then 146 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: we'd say, all right, do we really need to talk 147 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: about this off? When we just moved on and make 148 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: our families what they're supposed to be, it's a wonderful 149 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: way to turn away from anger. 150 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: When you're the one feeling a little bit too irritated 151 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: and angry, it's not necessarily natural for you to be 152 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: funny at that particular point in time. How do you 153 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: suddenly get your funny jeans out. 154 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's where we sort of probably move on to 155 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: the next idea, and that is that when we're starting 156 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: to get upset, I have a mantra that I repeat 157 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: again and again and again. I'm going to be calm 158 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: and kind. I'm going to be calm and kind. I'm 159 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: going to be calm and kind. I just keep saying 160 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: it until I can be calm and kind. And as 161 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: we can soothe ourselves, as we can regulate our own emotions, 162 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: we can actually find funny things to do. I'll pull 163 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: out just an old joke, or I'll go to tickle somebody, 164 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: or I'll I don't know, just do something when the 165 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: kids aren't cleaning up their room. Sometimes I'll just I'll 166 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 2: put on an accent and I'll become Colonel Clink from 167 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: Starlag the Heroes, and the accent comes out, and all 168 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: of a sudden, the kids think that it's fun and funny. 169 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: You know, when when things aren't working right, we can 170 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 2: use some music to change things. Not be angry music, 171 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: but some fun music and get everybody in a great 172 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: mood by putting on everyone's favorite song. These are just 173 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: some really simple strategies to turn away anger. You know, 174 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: I think that the best one of all. It's a 175 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: hard one, but the best one of all is when 176 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: our kids are ticking us off, instead of getting furious, 177 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: we should get curious. 178 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: Not only good what sounds wise, but right. 179 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: That's right? Yeah, yeah, we should understand, not reprimand do 180 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: you like that? 181 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Ohing them? Come on? 182 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: But what happens here is I mean, our children don't 183 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: wake up in the morning and think, how can I 184 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: make life horrible for my parents? They just they might 185 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: be having a hard time, and if they're challenging us, 186 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: it's not necessary for us to get mad. We just 187 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: need to work out what's going on in their lives 188 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 2: and then see if we can help them to solve 189 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: those needs that are now not being met. 190 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: Well, Dr Justin Pilson from Happy Families dot Com, you 191 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time, and. 192 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 5: Don't don't get furious, get curious, don't reprimand no premand understart. 193 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: I was getting there. 194 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: Why don't you go for a dance. 195 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 4: In Thank you, doctor Justin. 196 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: For more info in all of Justin's books, podcasts, and programs, 197 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: you can jump online to Happy Families dot com dot 198 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: are you to find out how to have Justin speak 199 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: at your school or you can come along to your 200 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: organization as well. 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