WEBVTT - The Blonde Hair Conspiracy 👱🏻‍♀️ ✂️

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<v Speaker 1>Cut flex and rooms, flex and frooms, catch up podcastle

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<v Speaker 1>and rooms. It's flex and it's rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just talking about how if we were toddlers,

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<v Speaker 2>we would one hundred percent get in physical fights rules,

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<v Speaker 2>but very easily again become comrades in the playground.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think we'd have a bit of like

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<v Speaker 3>a mummy daughter relationship alternating. So sometimes you'd like brush

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<v Speaker 3>my hair and then I would give you a hair cut,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you and be like, why why are you

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<v Speaker 3>girls cutting hair?

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<v Speaker 1>But she asked me too.

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<v Speaker 3>She looks really pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>We're very tactile together. I would say, yeah, there's chemistry.

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<v Speaker 3>There is chemistry. Yeah, wish people could see that more often.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little sacred thing we have between us.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I don't want to share. I realized the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to share, you know. I was saying

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<v Speaker 3>that I don't like hang out in groups. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to catch up with a friend on the weekend, and

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<v Speaker 3>she said, and we always do like a monthly catch up.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's very good at that. It's not me who's

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<v Speaker 3>good at that, but she'll put it in the calendar.

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<v Speaker 3>And this time she said something That really caught me. God,

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<v Speaker 3>she said, should we invite people? You know, the more

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<v Speaker 3>the merrier. I said, why in the hell would we

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<v Speaker 3>do that? And then she quickly wrote, She's like, you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to share it either.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you sucking about? Share? Why would I want

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<v Speaker 3>to share? The food, the conversation, none of it, none

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Remember one time we were doing we do

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<v Speaker 3>these long lunches. We go to like Pop's Points somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>boogie do a long lunch. We bring out the tarot.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing terra for each other. Some chit comes over

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<v Speaker 3>and she's like, you guys to tar do you mind? No,

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<v Speaker 3>we said, do you mind? And now she's looking at me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at her, looking at the lady like you're

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<v Speaker 3>interrupting and you're scaring the hose. So then we obviously

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<v Speaker 3>did the polite We did the polite thing and said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>well no, when we're done, we'll definitely reach out to you.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, well, I have to leave here at five.

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<v Speaker 3>You're joking?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it someone like saving it?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I feel like she worked there, but maybe

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<v Speaker 3>she owned the place. She was walking with a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of comfort. She was taking loud phone call, so maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it was, but she's like, I

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<v Speaker 3>got to leave at five, so look, okay, well if

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<v Speaker 3>we're ready, like you can come back. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>just avoided eye contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I mean ballsy, but yeah, here's a potty. You're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Flex and Rooms on kit every week I

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<v Speaker 1>come to you with a love line. What is that

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<v Speaker 1>you ask?

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<v Speaker 2>It is a scenario that's been either sent in from

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<v Speaker 2>a listener or it's come from our producer Brooks. She

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<v Speaker 2>trows the internet and finds one, or perhaps this comes

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<v Speaker 2>straight from her brain or maybe mine. I'll leave that

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<v Speaker 2>for you to decide. We'd like to have a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of mystery here on the Flex and Froom show. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me launch straight into the story, and then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to give our two cents, which is always very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I begin I am twenty one and my boyfriend is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. We are wanting to move in together. We're

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<v Speaker 1>both moving up.

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<v Speaker 2>From our parents' houses for the first time, or what

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<v Speaker 2>a time that was. We've even been buying house things

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<v Speaker 2>like kitchen appliances each month for the new place and

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<v Speaker 2>have gone to a few inspections a one bedroom apartment

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<v Speaker 2>in the inner city is looking pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>In a city.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, big city life, big bucks. It's like the Sims

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<v Speaker 1>City expansion pack. It's kind of vibe I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 2>I came home last night from work to a message

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<v Speaker 2>for my boyfriend saying that he has changed his mind

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<v Speaker 2>about moving in with me and only wants to do

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<v Speaker 2>it now if his best friend can move in with

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<v Speaker 2>us too.

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<v Speaker 3>Ha ha ha.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when Allen of Coffins is.

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<v Speaker 2>We get a on really well and normally wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>an issue with it, but he's been known to blow

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<v Speaker 2>his paycheck at the casino and he's getting kicked out

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<v Speaker 2>of his current rental. There have been a few times

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<v Speaker 2>when he's messaged my boyfriend to borrow money.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. I know gambling can be a serious

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<v Speaker 1>problem and totally want to be supportive. When I brought

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<v Speaker 1>up my worries with my boyfriend, he said he's been

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<v Speaker 1>his best friend since primary school and is standing by

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<v Speaker 1>him whether that includes me or not. WHOA, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a big, big, bloody, bloody call.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to lead that to marinate. I'm not feeling

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<v Speaker 2>good about it. Love, It's not the diagnosed the prognosis

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<v Speaker 2>is not looking good. It's not looking up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if someone's been kicked out of a rental, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff that I need to know. You're just

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<v Speaker 2>coming into your rental. I see this happening. There's two

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<v Speaker 2>terrible scenarios. Either AA he stops paying a rent or

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<v Speaker 2>b he does something so catastrophic, so cataclysmic, that your

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<v Speaker 2>rental history is forever tarnished by his behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard enough to get a rental generally these days.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not a great candidate for being twenty one or

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<v Speaker 3>even twenty. And yeah, I just feel like it's such

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<v Speaker 3>a terrible feeling to get your hopes up about something

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<v Speaker 3>you've idealized it. You know, it's you and me, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're moving in together with our beige Kmart toaster and

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<v Speaker 3>our mint green Kmart kettle. But it's not happening anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry. This is the beginning of the end,

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<v Speaker 3>not the end of your relationship, with the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the dream. It's just not right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should just debt it dead, the whole relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not the relationship, just dead, the fantasy of moving

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<v Speaker 3>in together, because realistically, I don't want to take a

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<v Speaker 3>boyfriend doesn't want to move in with you, But if

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<v Speaker 3>he's given you the ultimatum without a discussion of Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>so my best friends in this situation, I really want

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<v Speaker 3>to help him out. I don't want to leave him,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, down to the dumps. What do you think

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<v Speaker 3>we can do? Can we organize something, can you sleep

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<v Speaker 3>on the couch for a little bit, whatever, whatever? Whatever? No,

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<v Speaker 3>it turned into him and I am moving in together

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<v Speaker 3>and you got to deal with it. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think there's I would assume there's time to negotiate, but

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't feel like you're he's in a negotiating mood.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, plan for a reality that doesn't involve

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<v Speaker 3>living with your boyfriend's bum best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously pending financial situations in.

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<v Speaker 3>A city during the cause of living crisis. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>got it like that, true? True.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say I believe in holding off on the

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<v Speaker 1>moving and with the partner real quick, because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>go back from that.

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<v Speaker 3>I yeah, I didn't want to bring that up. I didn't. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm also a different camp. I don't live with

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<v Speaker 3>anyone period. I just it's not great. But also I

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<v Speaker 3>think you could, you'd be better off living with some

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<v Speaker 3>like minded friends before you live with a partner at

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally how fun you you know, I just love when

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<v Speaker 2>I first moved in in my first share house, we'd

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<v Speaker 2>be doing dinner parties. I was learning how to cool,

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<v Speaker 2>I was hanging out. It's like you're in a never

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<v Speaker 2>any sleepover if you find the right people. So you

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<v Speaker 2>should just hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying you should just enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know you wanted to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I said, it's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you guys do end.

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<v Speaker 2>Up moving in with the best friend, it can all

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<v Speaker 2>end in flames, and you can start off your new

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<v Speaker 2>life as a bachelorette in a fantastic sharehouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Let hivemn the best friend move over. You can come

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<v Speaker 3>like the third housemate who's not on the least agreement

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<v Speaker 3>raw living there permanently. Just dip into about that's a great.

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<v Speaker 1>Idea, Kate, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 1>What the frick?

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<v Speaker 2>We have big thoughts and some big vibes as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was on TikTok or rather I should say

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come and say I produce.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on TikTok. Shold me to talk about this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is called the blonde hair Conspiracy. It's by a

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<v Speaker 2>user by the name of kate Leannie.

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<v Speaker 4>I went down this whole rabbit hole on the Internet

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<v Speaker 4>where I saw a video of a girl saying that

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<v Speaker 4>the worst insult you could tell a white girl is

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<v Speaker 4>calling her a bottle blonde.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, why does that matter? You know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I've done my.

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<v Speaker 4>Hair a whole bajillion different colors. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 4>you call me out on it. Obviously my hair naturally

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<v Speaker 4>is not this color. But then I was like, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>there's like a higher archue between blonde people, and like

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<v Speaker 4>a girl on TikTok another girl was talking about that too,

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<v Speaker 4>where like the lighter your blonde is like the cooler

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<v Speaker 4>you are or whatever, like naturally, So then girls would

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<v Speaker 4>like try to look naturally blonde and like claim their

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<v Speaker 4>naturally blondes. So then I went on this rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 4>and I was just looking at all these girls hair

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<v Speaker 4>and like, again, I had white classmates when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 4>and They're like, hair is naturally this like platinum, platinum blonde.

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<v Speaker 4>But then like I found out, apparently that as you

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<v Speaker 4>get older, your hair fades and it becomes a darker tone,

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<v Speaker 4>like very rarely do you maintain the same platinum blonde

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<v Speaker 4>level you would have as a child. So then when

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking at the hair of these people, I

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<v Speaker 4>noticed that, like all of them, even though I was

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<v Speaker 4>looking at this like platinum blonde color just so pretty,

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<v Speaker 4>they all had.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really really dark roots.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know, maybe all of your stylists are

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<v Speaker 4>really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I only just learned there's.

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<v Speaker 4>Something called a root melt, which I apparently like unintentionally

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<v Speaker 4>asked for from my stylists because I just wanted the

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<v Speaker 4>blonde to blend really naturally into my natural hair color,

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<v Speaker 4>so I just didn't have to go get touch ups

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<v Speaker 4>that often because I'm lazy. But apparently it's like a

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<v Speaker 4>really common thing among people with blonde hair. So then

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, wait, how many people naturally are like

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<v Speaker 4>blonde blonde? And how many people are blonde but it's

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<v Speaker 4>actually just dyed and the natural hair color is a

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<v Speaker 4>shade of brown because I feel like, actually, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like a lot a lot of blonde people are actually

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<v Speaker 4>not genuinely blonde.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So that right there is the blonde conspiracy theory, the

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory that they actually that there actually aren't that

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<v Speaker 1>many blonde people in the world, and that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the blondes are bond on the blondspiracy.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you talking?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what she said. That's what she said. Conspiracy theory. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just call it the theory.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess it is a conspiracy, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of blondes out there in inverted commas,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of liars, a lot of fliers.

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<v Speaker 2>And I must say I do have personal experience in

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<v Speaker 2>this realm as a reformed fake blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>I was blond for fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>I convinced not only a fake blonde, but a fake Swede.

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<v Speaker 3>I never caught myself a sweet I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>I got into my head. Maybe I just there was

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<v Speaker 3>too many context clues, and I said, I think I

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<v Speaker 3>think this girl's Swedish.

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<v Speaker 2>I just have too much Ikea furniture. No, I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>I now have brown hair. However, in a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>say for example, the cat marketing campaigns, I am blonde.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of thoughts about the bottle blonde hierarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a real thing that I've seen in my shape spoken.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm freaking out the blonde hierarchy is real. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up as a brown hair bitch, brown hair since birth.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, but there was a time in high school

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<v Speaker 3>you were blonde, right, Oh yeah, you started your journey

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<v Speaker 3>when so.

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<v Speaker 2>My natural hair color has always been brown. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like a blonde baby. I came out of the womb

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<v Speaker 2>with no hair. I probably didn't get hair until I

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<v Speaker 2>was about two to three years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Late bloom, wispy. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hitting the different males stones, I was walking,

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking. I was like doing poos as a

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<v Speaker 2>joke on purpose. Oh funny, Yeah, big tricks, the big jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Will in the sound booth is thinking, yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of her. I see the vision. I see

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<v Speaker 2>the vision, and then yeah, I definitely always wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be blonde. I had a best friend in primary school

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<v Speaker 2>who actually listens to the show. Her name is Stephanie,

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<v Speaker 2>and Stephanie was super tan and had blonde hair, was

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<v Speaker 2>really cool, like had a cool family anyway, So he

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<v Speaker 2>was like obsessed with her, and she was my best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so I always thought people with blonde hair

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<v Speaker 2>are hotter. I had this hierarchy, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely obviously to do with the media.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be a newsreader and my favorite news reader,

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<v Speaker 2>Sandra Sully, had blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>Hair, Shelly Kraft.

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<v Speaker 2>All your typical Australian presenders were blonde, and so it's

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<v Speaker 2>surprising to me like now that I've got brown hair.

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<v Speaker 2>It took me a long time for me to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to accept the idea may being brown head, because

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, being blonde was being exceptional because it's rare. However,

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<v Speaker 2>like hearing this TikTok, obviously it's so tied up with

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<v Speaker 2>Eurocentric beauty standards and the high ruh.

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<v Speaker 3>Just hearing this TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>No, of course I knew beforehand, She's.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, of course I knew beforehand.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm learning.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm learning to love click three.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's funny to me that people wouldn't like grasp

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<v Speaker 2>that that, like, people with dark roots aren't blonde. I

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<v Speaker 2>even had a conversation earlier with people here at cater

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, WHOA, your hair gets darker every single

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<v Speaker 2>time I see you. I said, it's not just that, though,

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<v Speaker 2>not from your experience. A lot of blonde people lie,

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of blonde people are in denial about how

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<v Speaker 2>blonde they actually are, in contrast to what we've imagined

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<v Speaker 2>blonde to be. I've seen and overheard so many conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>Of people who were clearly visibly maybe you're a very dark,

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<v Speaker 3>dark blonde, but it's reading brown and most lighting. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not talking jet black, I'm talking a soft mousie. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking a caramel. All of these things read brown to

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<v Speaker 3>the average person who's not wrapped up in blonde politics.

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<v Speaker 3>In the same way that a non black person doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really understand when I'm wearing a wig or when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not wearing a wig, or my braids are real when

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<v Speaker 3>they're not real. It's exactly that. But I say it's

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<v Speaker 3>a wig, it's not real blonde. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 3>even if it's fake, I'm a blonde. I'm a blonde.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a blonde. I'm a blonde. I'm a blonde. You

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<v Speaker 3>say it so often that you truly believe it, and

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<v Speaker 3>when those roots start coming in, it's not cooking for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just say it's time for it's time for my appointment.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to touch up my blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, oh, I haven't had I haven't had highlights

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<v Speaker 1>in like twelve months. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I must say, though, I think mousie Brown needs to

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<v Speaker 2>have a rebrand because the term mousy brown is not

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<v Speaker 2>attractive at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I know like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people who are mousie brown and like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my hair's mousey. It's the worst thing ever say.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's cute. It's a humble color and it

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<v Speaker 1>looks cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's a humble, modest it's a modest colour forgettable.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I must say, if you're a bottle blonde like I

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<v Speaker 2>was for fifteen years, once you feel up to it,

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<v Speaker 2>I think graduating back to your natural color is a

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<v Speaker 2>humbling experience and one that you know once you hit

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<v Speaker 2>the ceiling and you can do that, it really means

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<v Speaker 2>you've done a lot of personal growth.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you have done if your hair wasn't breaking?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my hair broke off. This is interesting. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>just coming from the angle of self. Laugh and when

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<v Speaker 3>you two reach this at the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Of okay, I was forced. I had it in my hand,

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<v Speaker 1>you dressing it, flex and rooms on.

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<v Speaker 3>Kait. I do like hearing any anecdotes. I'm a quote girly,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, just because you know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>so much chit chat coming from me, coming from rooms,

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<v Speaker 3>coming from the world, but not all of it. It's good.

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<v Speaker 3>So when someone yourself, when someone it's an observation. So

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<v Speaker 3>when someone has lived enough and done enough great things

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<v Speaker 3>so they can distill that into a nugget or three,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always ready to tune in. This is from j

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<v Speaker 3>Cole mister Platinum, no features himself.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's two key ingredients, maybe three, but one

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<v Speaker 5>is see yourself as high as you possibly can see yourself. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>So someone wants to be in the NBA, like they

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<v Speaker 5>want to be an NBA but to me, that's not enough.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a wide range of NBA players, Right, There's an

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<v Speaker 5>NBA player that never saw the floor. You know, he

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<v Speaker 5>sat at the end of the bench his whole career

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<v Speaker 5>and they never re upped this contract and then he

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<v Speaker 5>had to go fight in the G League and boom

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<v Speaker 5>boom he was in the NBA. Lebron James is in

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<v Speaker 5>the NBA. Who do you see yourself as? And there's

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<v Speaker 5>no right or wrong answer. Clarify and define your vision

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<v Speaker 5>for yourself in the highest possible way that you could

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<v Speaker 5>see it and see yourself as high as you possible can, right,

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<v Speaker 5>That's your first job is to see it as high

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<v Speaker 5>as you can see it, be delusional either to the

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<v Speaker 5>point where to where your mind the rate at the

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<v Speaker 5>apex of which your mind believes as possible, maybe pushed

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<v Speaker 5>past that even a little bit, and define it. And

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<v Speaker 5>then number two is like believe it, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Like like see it all the time and

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<v Speaker 5>believe it and whatever you got to do to protect

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<v Speaker 5>that belief. My version of protecting that belief was I

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't sharing this or you know, I wasn't telling my mom.

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<v Speaker 5>She knew I rap, she knew I did music, and

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<v Speaker 5>to her somebody, I'm not even gonna give my own

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<v Speaker 5>mother the chance to try to bring me back down

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<v Speaker 5>to reality. It's not gonna happen, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>Like not gonna happen. So number one, dream is high

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<v Speaker 5>as you possibly can see yourself, not even dream, see

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<v Speaker 5>yourself as high as you possibly can. Define that. Don't

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<v Speaker 5>just say I want to do such and such, because

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<v Speaker 5>if you mess around and get such and such, you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be mad that you didn't think about higher. There's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people that do that they're like, man,

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<v Speaker 5>why didn't I think about being this instead of just this?

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<v Speaker 5>Because at the time you thought just this was it.

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<v Speaker 5>But due to do the thought work and see where

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<v Speaker 5>you really want to be too, believe that it's possible,

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<v Speaker 5>and protect that belief. And then three is work towards it.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't You have to do the work and because you

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<v Speaker 5>love it. It's not always gonna feel like work. But

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing like that boom.

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<v Speaker 3>You love that sound, but I hate it every time.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to try and crop it off videos, but

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<v Speaker 3>then it has the person's I just I.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it, boom troom.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just even if it's like especially when it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a funny video, it makes it ten min times funny.

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<v Speaker 3>That advice was really good because it's true. It's all there.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think everyone will resonate to that, because thinking

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<v Speaker 3>and dreaming about being your best self and then a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit higher people are trying to eat babe. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a nice way to learn how to

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<v Speaker 3>back yourself in practice and in a way that's just

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<v Speaker 3>for you, not for the imaginary observer. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will say this parent settling like the idea

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<v Speaker 2>that you I think like if you're the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>person it's like, oh I did this, Like I settled

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<v Speaker 2>for being the NBA player rather than being Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes maybe you're never going to be happy. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a Lebron James, you issue with someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>So just like I think, also it's good to be

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<v Speaker 2>mindful of like, yes, I can imagine myself being someone

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<v Speaker 2>who wins an oscar, but at what costs? Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's also important, Like it's totally good to have

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<v Speaker 2>a lofty dream, and I like the idea of not

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<v Speaker 2>telling anyone but writing it down.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>But also there's like real power in having those dreams

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<v Speaker 2>and then refocusing them when they stop working for you,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think sometimes you can just hold onto these

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<v Speaker 2>dreams because you've, like because you've like pictured them for

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<v Speaker 2>so long that not achieving them feels like some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of failure. But it's also nice to rewire every.

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<v Speaker 1>Now and again.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would supplement that by doing a by yearly

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<v Speaker 2>check in. If we are going along the route of

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<v Speaker 2>actually forging ahead, do you buy buy yearly check in?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm I'm pledging with this JOKEL.

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<v Speaker 3>Or be mediocre.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a confession you make. I want to learn

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<v Speaker 3>how to play Dungeons and jang Gains Dungeons and Dragons.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just something about it, well, not just the game

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<v Speaker 3>in particular, but the older I get, the more I

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<v Speaker 3>realize that not only do we need hobbies that are

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<v Speaker 3>good for our mind, hobbies that are good for our bodies,

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<v Speaker 3>hobbies that are good for our social lives. Like most

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<v Speaker 3>you know, mid to late twenty year olds, your social

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<v Speaker 3>life kind of orients around the same couple of things.

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<v Speaker 3>You go to bars, maybe picnics, you do dinner parties.

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<v Speaker 3>Call it's kind of like consumption based. But I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>what kind of hobbies do I have that are social

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<v Speaker 3>that also tick that box of being entertaining and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of educational but also transformative. Okay, do you know when

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<v Speaker 3>you do something new with a friend, Let's say you

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<v Speaker 3>take a pottery class, like you're really good at that,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's cool, You go back and forth. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I think Dungeons and Dragons might do for my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Because for those of you who don't really get it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a like a lie have role playing games, so

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<v Speaker 3>you're basically doing improv live with all of your friends

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<v Speaker 3>based on a character that you've created and a character

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<v Speaker 3>that they've created, a character that they've created. Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a couple of weeks ago we spoke about

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<v Speaker 3>not a couple of weeks ago, maybe last year at

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<v Speaker 3>this point, we spoke about that alignment test. Are you chaotic? Neutral?

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<v Speaker 3>Chaotic good that comes from dungeons and dragons? So you

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<v Speaker 3>do you little test, and you're to sign that characteristic

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<v Speaker 3>to your character. So you sorry, you to sign that

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<v Speaker 3>alignment to your character. So when you're improving the decisions

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<v Speaker 3>your character is making, it's with that alignment in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>You get parameters right, right, And.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you have this I think it's called a game master,

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<v Speaker 3>who is essentially helping the story move along. So while

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<v Speaker 3>our improve and say and then I threw a bottle

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<v Speaker 3>behind rooms's head to scare her, game master might say,

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<v Speaker 3>what is that? The lights have gone off? Cater is

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<v Speaker 3>flooding as we speak. There is two enemy elf links come.

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<v Speaker 1>Up the lifts.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>It's two TikTok girls in the ears?

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<v Speaker 3>Ma, what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it'd be like gossiping, but with the

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<v Speaker 3>extra layer of fantasy. I just feel like it would

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<v Speaker 3>be so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen you this animated in weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it is what it is. I'm enthusiastic about

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<v Speaker 3>fighting things that make me feel enthusiastic and then sharing

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<v Speaker 3>them because I have a lot of things that I

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<v Speaker 3>like doing alone, because I think it's quite commonplace to

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<v Speaker 3>shit on people's things, like yuck people's yums. So if

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<v Speaker 3>I share a thing with you when you don't get it,

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<v Speaker 3>then you'd be like that's silly or that's really dumb,

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<v Speaker 3>and that becomes quite boring because people always yucking my um.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, okay, well, I don't want to play

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<v Speaker 3>with you anyway, but I do want to play with

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<v Speaker 3>people because it's fun to share fun things. So don't

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<v Speaker 3>leave expressions of interest in the comments. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to play with strangers.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, close the conversation purely like and share and subscribe.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am looking for again master who is going

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<v Speaker 3>to curate these games, So I don't know. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 3>someone in my friendship network exists and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to play this game, but we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>it because I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna be an elflin. Yeah, I was on an excuse

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<v Speaker 1>to wear those years.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a little do the reveal, show us, show

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<v Speaker 3>us there it is?

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<v Speaker 1>What species is she.

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<v Speaker 3>In? Scenes? Savage? That's fair blame Becky for the edit,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it'd be really enjoyable. But part of

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<v Speaker 3>me thinks that the experience of playing Dungeons and Dragons

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<v Speaker 3>is going to feel a lot like karaoke. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>my issue with karaoke is whenever I've been, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not often, there are two types of people, those who

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<v Speaker 3>take it too seriously and those who don't take it

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<v Speaker 3>seriously enough. So the ones who don't take it seriously

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<v Speaker 3>enough are getting on the phone, getting on the phone,

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<v Speaker 3>getting on the mic, and they're not really singing in

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<v Speaker 3>time or singing off bat or getting the lyrics wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>or trying to make it a comedy show, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>like you're taking up space and you're being really loud

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<v Speaker 3>and once it take it too seriously? Are you? Christina Aguilera, MA,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm freaking if you can really sing past the mic?

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<v Speaker 3>Past the mic. We didn't come here for an imprompt

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<v Speaker 3>you intimate performance, so similar to dungeons and dragons. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want real actors fall back fall back, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want someone who's taking the piers and not listening

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<v Speaker 3>and not furthering the story along. So I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need to get in with an already

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<v Speaker 1>made group.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be the newbie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'd be nice for you, a little humbling experience.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need to be humbled, need to be platformed

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<v Speaker 3>and elevated and validated.

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