1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken, your dose of the hottest 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert, 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: and I'm joined by Mess sisters and journalists Amy and Sophie. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: On today's show, TikTok, power couple Mikayla Tester and Addis 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: Paul Call that Quits, Madison Wooley's awkward run in with 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: ex Jonathan Sower, jar De Tunci's plane etiquette. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: And Shannie Grumman's health update. 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: But first, on Thursday, we got pulled into a big 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: name podcast staush between Shameless and The Kyle and Jackie 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: O Show. So, Shameless had previously discussed a segment from 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: The Kyle and Jackie O Show where Kyle told listeners 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: one way to ensure your male partner doesn't cheat while 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: in a night out is to make sure quote their 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: balls are empty. Now, this segment attracted the attention of 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: Kyle's personal assistant Bruno, and a seven minute discussion followed 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: on The Kyle and Jackie O Show. Now then, of course, 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Shameless followed up with their own discussion on their show. However, 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: the one thing the girls were focused on though, was 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: a case of mistaken identity, which is where we come in. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: Let's play the clip. 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: Who are those girls? 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I mean social media. 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: Not long ago they did a list, and you know 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: how I feel about people doing lists that aren't men. 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: What are you against? Dropped off a bit, didn't I 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: haven't done it like a year, but I still feel 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: that it's my domain. 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: I didn't appreciate them having strong opinions. 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: And the list. 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: What was their list though? 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Things to do with like chocolates or something. 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: Oh, that's why you're pissed because they've done what you did. 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: I need to tell the world we have been framed. 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: This is like a case of mistaken or stolen identity. 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: Bruno hates us. Producer Bruno from Carl and Jackieyo did 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: a seven minute segment on us and hates us because 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: we stole his list idea and apparently ranked chocolates recently, 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: which we just never did. And now I'm I'm very confused. 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I actually don't even like that sort of genre generally. 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: He's so welcome to be the list king. 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: Take Bruno. 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: I just want Bruno to address the chocolate list thing. 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: Where did you see that? I know we did one 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: maybe in twenty eighteen, but we haven't in the last 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 4: four years, so I just love to know who is 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: mistaken us for Yeah, he's. 47 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: A case of mistaken identity for sure. 48 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: So many listeners were quick to contact us after hearing 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Shameless's episode to point out that this was, in fact 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: our chocolate hierarchy that Bruno was talking about. I was 51 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: just screaming at my phone when the podcast was on. 52 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: It was us, and apparently that was the case for 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: lots of listeners. They kept messaging us saying it's you guys. 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: They were tagging Shameless in posts. But I mean, alas, 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: I would have actually quite liked the call out on 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: the Carl and Jackio show because apparently it led to 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: heaps of people going and listen to Shameless. So Carl 58 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: and JACKIEO, if you would like to rectify the situation. 59 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: It was us. It was having the stout with Bruno. 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: We did let Bruno know and he did reshare the 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: post on his Instagram story, but I think. 62 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: That was it. 63 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: I think he must have been a little bit embarrassed 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: by the confusion. I don't think he was embarrassed. I 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: think he was loving it because Shameless even titled their 66 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: podcast with his name. I feel like it's a pretty 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: good outcome for Bruno. But Bruno, we don't want to 68 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: come after your status as the list king. 69 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: We just wanted to put something out for Easter. 70 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: Maybe we could collaborate with Bruno on a list. I 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: think that's a good idea. 72 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, friend looks so fucking good. I had 73 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: to Vampire attacker. 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: TikTok's golden couple Addis Paul and Mikayla Tester have devastated 75 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: fans by confirming they've called it quits on their three 76 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: year relationship. Last week, rumors of a breakup were swelling 77 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: when Mikayla was spotted holidaying alone in Bali. However, as 78 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: we reported on Friday's show, Mikayla denied the splits, saying 79 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: they were still together. So you have become heavily invested 80 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: in this relationship. For those of us who aren't, can 81 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: you give us a breakdown of why we should care? 82 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: Well. 83 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: I was utterly shocked when I saw Adis make this 84 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: and now on Sunday night, particularly because Michayla had spent 85 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: a lot of time shooting down those rumors. Now, for 86 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: those who, as you say, aren't as invested. This is 87 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: a huge deal in the influencer world. Over the past 88 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: two years, the Paul family has become TikTok royalty. Gen 89 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: Zetas and millennials have become immersed in the family's daily 90 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: flogs and have fallen in love. 91 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: With their charm Now. 92 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: The two couples are made up of Addis and Mikayla 93 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: and Anna and Glenn, and they regularly travel the world 94 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: together and appear in one another's content. Mikayla and Anna 95 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: have forged careers for themselves as only fans top earners 96 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: in Australia and are hugely popular on TikTok now. Addis 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: and Michayla are one of the few influenzer power couples 98 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: who regularly vlog about their relationship, and while they are 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: known for often sharing the highlight reel, they do open 100 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: up about fights or have funny digs at one another, 101 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: which a lot of couples don't do anymore. And they 102 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: were also pure couple goals, so they were always traveling 103 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: together outrageous photos and Adis appeared to always shower Mikayla 104 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: with gifts and thoughtful dates, and it seemed pretty clear 105 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: in their vlogs that Adis was infatuated by Mikayla and 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: seemed to work really hard to make her happy, and 107 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: who could forget that iconic Beginning Boutique promotional. 108 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: Video that's right now. 109 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Also Amy they were incredibly inseparable on their TikTok and 110 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: they discussed the fact that they hated being apart from 111 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: one another. And I think why this is hitting so 112 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: many GenZ as hard is the fact that they really 113 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: shipped their relationship. A lot of young people felt like 114 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: they lived vicariously through this couple and this relationship, and 115 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: it was a relationship that belonged to them. So I 116 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: think that's why so many fans are distraught. And I 117 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: did have to laugh at a few of the comments 118 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: that were being left on TikTok. So one follower said 119 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: they were screaming, crying and throwing up over the news, 120 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: whilst another said calling in sick for work because Mikayla 121 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: Tester and Adas Paul broke up, and your mourning as 122 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: if it's your own relationship. I feel like you guys 123 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: have done this before. I'm trying to think of the 124 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: celebrity couple, well I can, I've more rejoiced when celebrity 125 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: couples are broken. I remember when Dean Geya and Lisa 126 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: from the Veronicas split up. It was a good day 127 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: in our household. God, I was so happy. I felt 128 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: like I had a chance. Obviously it didn't work out, 129 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: but I remember being really affected when Drew from Neighbors 130 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: cheated on Libby. 131 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: Kennedy, I remember. And then there was that whole love 132 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: triangle with Steph. Do you guys remember that? 133 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: I do. 134 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: I remember being sadly quite obsessed with that and being 135 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: upset as well. Now back to the current breakup of situation. Okay, 136 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: can you talk us through how was this news broken online? 137 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: Well? 138 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Despite Michayla shooting down the rumors, suspicion began to grow 139 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: when Addis and Anna shared videos about their trip to Germany. Now, 140 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: Anna showed the family at the airport waiting to board 141 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: their flight to Germany, and Michayla was, of course, nowhere 142 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: to be seen. Adis then decided to do a Q 143 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: and A during the long flight and was flooded with 144 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: questions about Michayla and why she wasn't with him. So 145 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: Adis wrote, I've been getting asked so much if Mick 146 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: and I still together. We love each other so much 147 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: and decided to be friends. Now everything is perfect between us. 148 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: We both agree it's better this way now. Despite Adas 149 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: claiming that they're still friends, he has gone on a 150 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: deleting spree, getting rid of many of their photos together. Also, 151 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: Mikayla has chimed in. She responded a few minutes later 152 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: on her own Instagram account by re sharing Addis's post. 153 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: She then shared a DM that she received from a 154 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: fan saying, wait, you're not dating. I don't believe in 155 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: love anymore, and Mikayla wrote I don't anymore either, with 156 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: a broken love heart emoji. Now this post has since 157 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: been removed now. While Adis was rather tight lip for 158 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: the rest of his long flight, Mikayla also shared an 159 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Instagram story of herself sitting on the toilet of all places, 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: in a bikini, miming to the song Round the World, 161 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: and wrote, well that's that, you know, I'll be buzzing on. 162 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: She then linked her OnlyFans account. I had to watch 163 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: that clip a few times to be like she actually 164 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: on the toilet, because you know, when you don't notice 165 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: it first, and then I'm like, oh no, that's definitely 166 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: the toilet and she's holding her underpants. I have to 167 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: say I wish I looked that good sitting on a 168 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: toilet now. In response to the video, a follower DM 169 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: to Michayla and said she's gone crazy. Michayla screenshot that 170 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: message and re shared it to her Instagram story and 171 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: yet again shared her OnlyFans link and wrote, I'll be 172 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: replying to everyone on there tonight, so come and talk 173 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: to me, and then did a crying face emoji. Those 174 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: pictures on the toilet have subsequently also been deleted, so 175 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: it seemed like she had a bit of a meltdown 176 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: when Adas put that message out there, which is understandable. 177 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: Well, I don't really blame her. 178 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: They are very young, and it's not like they had 179 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: agreed to put this statement out. This is a big 180 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: deal in her life as well as his. He just 181 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: sort of answered it as if it didn't really matter 182 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: on his Instagram story. Now, there has been a lot 183 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: of speculation that Michayla was either blindsided by the split 184 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: or perhaps she wasn't being honest with her fans for 185 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: quite some time now. Amy what has led to the confusion, Well, 186 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: the day before the split was announced, Mikayla was in 187 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: tears on her Instagram story. So a follower had written 188 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: in about their own experience with a boy who didn't 189 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: give her the time of day. 190 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: Here's what Mikayla said. 191 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 5: I'm crying because I'm reading all of my dms from 192 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: your girls, like just telling me your stories and just saying, 193 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 5: like you really needed to read my story and then 194 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: just want to tell her you like if a man 195 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 5: do not see your value, like he never will. He's 196 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 5: never gonna change, He's never gonna prioritize you and value 197 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 5: you above whatever the hell he wants, like whether it's 198 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 5: video games, his family, like, whatever it may be, never 199 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 5: gonna be you. So you need to take every last 200 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: piece of anything that you have left and you need 201 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 5: to give it to somebody else that will do that. 202 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 5: There is people out there that will just love you 203 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 5: for you and just you will be their whole world 204 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 5: and you will never have to fight to be somebody's world. 205 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 6: Just believe me. 206 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: Mikayla then followed up the story by sharing relationship quotes, 207 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: and that's never a good sign, one read. I hope 208 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: you had the courage to leave what is not for you. 209 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: I hope you have the courage not to look back 210 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: and to keep choosing yourself no matter how painful the 211 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: road may be. Michayla then wrote, Ah, you guys are 212 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: making me so emotional. I wish I could hug every 213 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: single one of you. Everything is going to be okay. 214 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying my best to respond to everyone. The answer 215 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: is self love and self care. And for the fifth time, 216 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: Addison and I are one hundred percent fine. This is 217 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: about you, guys. See that threw me even more because 218 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: why would you reiterate the day before this breakup announcement 219 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: We're fine, We're together. It just seems really odd. I 220 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: have so many questions about that. 221 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: Now. 222 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: We are recording this on Monday afternoon, so at the 223 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: time of recording, this is the latest. And it was 224 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: pretty funny because Mikayla just shared that her in box 225 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: is blowing up with males who were obviously trying to 226 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: impress now that she's newly single. She shared a story 227 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: and wrote my DMS right now and shared this clip. 228 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: You should let me love you, let me be one 229 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: to give you everything you want any now. 230 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: Some followers are speculating that the breakup is a publicity 231 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: stunt in a bid to keep Addis and Michayla's name 232 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: in the media. But I don't think this is a 233 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: publicity stunt at all. I just think it's a messy 234 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: breakup because if this was a PR stunt, I don't 235 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: think michaela would have been rejecting the rumors in her 236 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: comments section. And also the initial rumors were sparked from 237 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: Michayla simply being alone in a video about what to 238 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: order at McDonald's in Bali, and this is almost just 239 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: a bit too subtle for the media to. 240 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: Pick up on. 241 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the only reason I think it could perhaps 242 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: be a publicity stune is because Michayla did link her 243 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: OnlyFans account straight after the split and say head over 244 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: to chat with me about it. And if you think 245 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: about it, Anna Paul has been quite open in saying 246 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: that the majority of her followers on OnlyFans are young females, 247 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: so they're her fans. So perhaps Mikayla doesn't seem to 248 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: have as many female fans as Anna does, so maybe 249 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: by her wanting to share relationship news or you know, 250 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: you have dms with their followers, maybe this is a 251 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: way to generate more of a following on there that 252 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: will stay on there and be engaged with her. And 253 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: they're just the second couple who've been accused of having 254 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: some kind of relationship issue as a publicity stunt. There was, 255 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: of course Olivia and Jackson from Maths, and now Jackson's 256 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: just come out with his OnlyFans account, So I feel 257 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 1: like a lot of people. 258 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: Are a bit suspicious at the moment. 259 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: But the thing is with Jackson and Olivia, they actually 260 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: need the promotion, whereas Mikayla's really successful on OnlyFans. I 261 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: do tend to agree though if it was a publicity stunt, 262 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: I think it would be to generate the audience that 263 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: she prefers, So maybe she has got this preference more 264 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: towards a female audience. Well, that audience would be more 265 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: beneficial for her in terms of getting other deals out 266 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: alongside of Only Fans as well. 267 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 6: Well. 268 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: I do wonder if this previous trip that Mikayla and 269 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: Adas did to Europe was the nail and the coffin 270 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: for their relationship, because Mikayla seemed to be regularly absent 271 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: from the travel content, and some of the reasons given 272 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: were that she had a migraine or she'd eaten something funny. 273 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: But she later came out and said that she doesn't 274 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: like appearing in Addis and Anna's tiktoks because she receives 275 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: an onslaught of hate whenever she appears. 276 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: In any of the content. 277 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: And that made me really feel for her because I 278 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: do feel like, as we discussed on Friday, there's this 279 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: rivalry that is being put up between her and Anna, 280 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's just going to increase now 281 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: that this breakup has happened. But do you guys think 282 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be a long term breakup? I kind 283 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: of get the vibe that this isn't going to be 284 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: an on again, off again type of thing. Well, I 285 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: think the fact that they are very young and you know, 286 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: they had been together for three years. I think it 287 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: would be very hard for them to just close off 288 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: their feet. And perhaps it is something that they will 289 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: meet up in other countries. They've both got the pay 290 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: packet to go and meet up. 291 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: With one another. 292 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: Oh, when you said three years, it made me think, 293 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: is this a victim of a COVID romance? Because you know, 294 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: it's been two and a bit years since the pandemic. 295 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: They've probably got together just before the pandemic started, and then, 296 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: as we've seen, COVID seems to accelerate. 297 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: A lot of relationships. 298 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that has anything to do with it, 299 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: because they've hardly been the typical couple who's staying at 300 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: home and you know, getting bored with each other. 301 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: They've been jet setting all over the world. 302 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: I actually think that this breakup could be a good 303 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: thing for Mikayla's brand, because, as we said, she does 304 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: generate a lot of hate just by being associated with 305 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: the family. I do wonder if being part of a 306 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: very famous family and also a very tight knit family 307 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: had something to do with the breakup, because, as we 308 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: heard before, Mikayla gave advice on her stories about guys 309 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: who won't choose you over their family, or a guy 310 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: whose family will get in the way of a relationship, 311 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: and it just almost seemed a little bit too targeted 312 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: towards at us to not take any assumptions from that. 313 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: And my heart leg bro I was like, you know, 314 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: like adrenaline. 315 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: You're so used to living your life without seeing them again. Yes, 316 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: but like the last time you saw them, they were 317 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: your boyfriend. 318 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Madison Lily has revealed the shock moment she spotted her 319 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: ex out on a date Amy What went down, Well, 320 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: this incident actually took place a number of weeks ago, 321 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: but it was only detailed last week on Madison's podcast, 322 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Girl Code, And this is because Madison has been banking 323 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: up episodes ahead of her five week. 324 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: Long Europe trip. 325 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: So Madison said she and her co host Caitlyn Rodriguez 326 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: were leaving dinner in Sydney when they spotted Jonathan Sour 327 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: on a hot date. And what I found really funny 328 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: was Caitlyn, who is Madison's best friend, seemed more shaken 329 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: by the whole ordeal than Madison. And this is probably 330 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: because Caitlyn was the first to realize Jonathan was at 331 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: the restaurant, so she spotted his car part outside the 332 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: front and it wasn't hard to spot because Jonathan apparently 333 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: has personalized number plate, so they immediately knew he was there. 334 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: You think, if you're an influencer, you wouldn't have personalized plays, 335 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,119 Speaker 1: so they actually. 336 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: Didn't surprise him. 337 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: About Jonathan, I feel like he is the type of 338 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: person that would have personalized number plates. 339 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: You know when people talk about X, like that's an 340 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: ick for me. 341 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: If somebody has a personalized number plate. 342 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: What do you think it is? Oh, I reckon it 343 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: be it's something to do with the car, like Merk. No, 344 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: I reckon his number plates like JOHNO or something. Surely not. 345 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: Now it's unclear whether Jonathan saw Madison and Caitlyn at 346 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: the restaurant, but let's be real, Jonathan probably listens to 347 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: their podcast, so he'll now be aware of what went down. 348 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: And according to the girls, the dinner setting was very 349 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: intimate and it didn't look like this was Jonathan's first 350 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: date with this girl. And to add salt to the wound, 351 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: this was the first time Madison had seen Jonathan since 352 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: their breakup. I felt for Madison in this instant because 353 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: this would have been one of those moments where your 354 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: stomach absolutely dropped and you're not expecting to see that person, 355 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: particularly with a day. And it was also her last 356 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: night in Sydney before her trip, so I feel like 357 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: it would have played quite heavily on her. Did anyone 358 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: else notice that she dropped that she was the one 359 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: that broke up with Jonathan because she was saying in 360 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: that moment she was trying to work out in her 361 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: head if she had made the right decision and how 362 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: she felt about it. I'm really not surprised. I thought 363 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: Madison would have been the one to dump Jonathan, and 364 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: she did go on to say that seeing him out 365 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: was like a jump scare, and Caitlyn said she would 366 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: have had the same reaction if she'd seen someone come 367 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: up to her with a gun. And this has what 368 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: made me think maybe Jonathan's been trying to get Madison back, 369 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: and that's why it was such a shock seeing him out. 370 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: I do have to give the girls props because we 371 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: said a couple of months ago that they really need 372 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: to start sharing more personal stories, and they have been 373 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: doing so, and I think it has taken their podcast 374 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: up a notch. 375 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: I have been enjoying it a lot more. 376 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: I had to laugh because Caitlyn remarked that it was 377 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: the final cherry on top seeing Jonathan out with someone else. 378 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: Now I think she meant final nail in the often, 379 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: but I totally got what she was saying. It is 380 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: that moment where you're like, oh, do I. 381 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: Care or do I not care about this person? So 382 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: do we know who it is? Because I feel like 383 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: he's got a type. 384 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: He's dated Shining Grimman before, I would be shocked if 385 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: he doesn't dated influencer. Well, I did a little bit 386 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: of detective work because I thought the same thing. Surely 387 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: this girl must be an influencer or someone who's known. 388 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: And if Jonathan's likes anything to go by, he is 389 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: definitely out and about in the dating scene because he 390 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: has been following a whole load of Sydney and Brisbane 391 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: models and also reality TV contestants, and he's been liking 392 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: a lot of photos. Yeah, but he was doing that 393 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: when he was dating Madison Willie. I remember seeing his 394 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: name popping up on bikini photos of Tammy Hembros And 395 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: it seems to be a topic that they often discussed 396 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: in their podcast, like is it okay to like another 397 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: girl's Instagram photos when you're in a relationship. 398 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Well, if I was this. 399 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: Girl who'd gone on a date with Jonathan and I 400 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: saw him liking the types of photos he's been liking since, 401 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: I'd be pretty pissed off, regardless of the fact. You know, 402 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: even if he wasn't your boyfriend, You're like, what the 403 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: hell are you mentally interested in me? But it's only 404 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: a Madison and Caitlin's assumption that these two have been 405 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: spending a lot of time together. Maybe he is just 406 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: being a bit lazy and taking a girl out on 407 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: a pretty blase, a crappy takeaway first day you never know, 408 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: could be a fuck buddy sort of situation. It seemed 409 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: a little bit tad hypocritical of Madison, who has literally 410 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: been I mean, I've been enjoying the stories, but detailing 411 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: the roster that she's putting together of guys and all 412 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: these different dates. Do you maybe think it's been a 413 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: bit of a blow to her ego because you know 414 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: when you dump someone and you've got the upper hand 415 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: and you think they must be pining over you, and 416 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: then you see them on a date and sort of 417 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: like what. I don't think it's I don't think it's 418 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: hypocritical of her because she was just reacting to seeing 419 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: him out. I think, regardless of if you've moved on 420 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: or not, it's always a bit confronting seeing someone that 421 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: you were in a relationship. Wouldn't it be nice if 422 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: you were Jonathan listening to her outlining all these guys 423 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: that she's seeing and this roster that she's put together. 424 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: But we don't know what went on in their relationship 425 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: because I don't know, I've done Nathan would be the 426 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: best boyfriend out there, so maybe this is her a 427 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: bit of a fuck you to him. But I think 428 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: it's also clear that Madison wants to normalize casual dating, 429 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: and it's something that she said her listeners of getting 430 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: something out of because you don't often hear people talking 431 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: about it so candidly. 432 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: And I also think that she. 433 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: Probably was quite hurt by her relationship ending with Jonathan 434 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: because she clearly doesn't want to jump into anything too 435 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: serious and wants to, you know, spend time on herself. 436 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: Let's talk, it's just attention before checking off for the 437 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: male candidate. 438 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: Of wouldn't it be terrible to the clan grat. 439 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Yes, or you just fell out of the van if. 440 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: The floor just disappeared from Monday and you just fell 441 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: out and you'll. 442 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: Be followed for Angel and Kate as our official international correspondent, 443 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: can you give us an update on what's going. 444 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: On with influences abroad? Yes? I can so. 445 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: Despite being thirty one thousand feet above the ground on 446 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: a flight, jar Da Tunci still managed to receive backlash 447 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: after posting an Insta story about plane etiquette. The controversial 448 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: influencers shared a series of posts on her unfiltered account 449 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: called the Real jar Day Tunci, where she poked fun 450 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: at a mum trying to settle her baby. She then 451 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: went on to complain that her window shade had been 452 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: closed in the process. Jaday ended up deleting the Insta 453 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: story and wrote, guys, why do you always forget that 454 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: I'm joking on here. I don't actually think babies find 455 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: shushing annoying. She then went on to say I'm done. 456 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: I'm not going to muck around anymore, only going to 457 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: be very serious. I'm throwing this account in the bin. 458 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: That comment just sounds like she's throwing a toys out 459 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: of the pram. She's not impressed. I just think that 460 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: she is reacting because so many influences are being picked 461 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: on for the smallest things at the moment, and especially 462 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: Jadae Tunci. She's been in the headlines for different different 463 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: issues that she's had, and I feel like she's just gone, well, 464 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm not going to even share anything because 465 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: literally everything she says shares people seem to have an issue. 466 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: But I don't think people have necess farely picked on 467 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: her for no reason though, because she has been caught 468 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: out for doing some pretty poor thing she has at 469 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: the same time, she originally did create the real Jardi 470 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: Ton't she account to share sort of comedic takes on stuff. 471 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: But I think that what she doesn't realize is the 472 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: character she's creating. Her followers have put a different connotation 473 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: on that character, so it's not a funny character. It's 474 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: more of a cringe negative person that she's created. I 475 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: totally get that, but I feel like these days influencers 476 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: just get torn down, like something could legitimately have been 477 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: a joke, but people always take the negative. But I 478 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: think is why would you make a joke when you're 479 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: literally on this amazing probably all expenses paid trip. She's 480 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: just been living it up in Italy with Sammy Robinson 481 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: and her sister. It was quite hard. I think we 482 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: spoke about last week. It's really hard for people that 483 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: are in wintry Old Australia looking at this content who 484 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: haven't yet traveled. And I'm not to say that doesn't 485 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: mean that people can't be living their best lives and traveling, 486 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: but you know, just think before you post something bit 487 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: on the nose. I think it's really hard for influencers 488 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: to get the right balance. I think that they're quite 489 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: mindful that they're showing this luxurious trip, so they're probably thinking, fuck, 490 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: I've got to show something relatable, and perhaps this is 491 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: what jar Day thought. 492 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: She was doing. 493 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: Anyway, the whole thing has got me thinking about plane 494 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: etiquette because my last flight was back in October twenty nineteen, 495 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: so I feel like it's a good time to. 496 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: Do a bit of a refresher. 497 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go through some key plane etiquette 498 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: points and see if we're all on the same page. 499 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: So firstly, it's clear where jar Dae tunc she sits 500 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: on the whole opening window shade. 501 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: How do you guys feel about it? 502 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: I actually think it's a bit of a dog act 503 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: if the person next to you closes the window, because 504 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: if you're in the middle, the whole point of being 505 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: near the window is to look out at the window. 506 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: I disagree. 507 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: As someone who was afraid of flying, sometimes it puts 508 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: me off to see outside the window windows. 509 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, but does the thing? 510 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: I think whoever is in the window seat is the 511 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: person in charge of the shade. 512 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that so we're criticizing for closing it. Look 513 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: I think it's a very situational thing. It depends on 514 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: the timing. 515 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: Of the flight. If it's a night flight, yeah, put 516 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: your window shade down. If it's glary, put it down. 517 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: But I think if it's not any of those things, 518 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of nice to have it up 519 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: and see the sky and the clouds. How about sharing 520 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: an arm rest, because I think that that is the 521 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: ultimate battleground on a plane. It's always a very passive 522 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: aggressive thing because you've kind of got to claim the 523 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: arm rest really quickly into the flight. Again, I do 524 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: think it's dependent on where you sit on the plane. 525 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: So if you're sitting in a prime real estate position 526 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: like the window seat or the aisle seat, you've got 527 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: extra room that you can spread out. So I think 528 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: the person in the middle should have both arm rest 529 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: and then the people in the other seats can have one. 530 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: The thing that really fires me up on a plane 531 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: is when people recline their seat so early in the flight. 532 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's a bit of a contentious 533 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: topic too, because at the end of the day, you 534 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: are allowed to do it. However, it's just a dog 535 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: Do you think people just tended to complete assholes? When 536 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: they're on planes, So it's like all social etiquette goes 537 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: out of the window and I openly just start rolling 538 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: my eyes to other people on the plane about certain passengers. 539 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: A dad almost got in a punch up on one 540 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: flight because this guy kept reclining his chair and then 541 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: our dad he kept like punching the back of the 542 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: chair and saying passive aggressive comments. And then they got 543 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: to the airport and dad saw him in the smoker's 544 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: area and it was almost on He said, But don't 545 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: you think if someone reclines their seat onto you, I 546 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: always try and dig my knees in a little bit. 547 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 548 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: As again, there's always a time and a place for it. Yeah, 549 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: if it's a long haul night flight and the lights 550 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: are off. However, if you're getting your meals served and 551 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: some dickhead puts their seat down, I just think it's 552 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: the height of absolute rudeness. I've seen photos where people 553 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: will stick their legs through the chair hole, so you'll 554 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: be sitting there and someone's leg will be stretched out. 555 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 3: Oh. 556 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: I think I would get so annoyed, especially if they 557 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: had their shoes off and they had a smelly foot 558 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: that was in my face. Can you imagine if you 559 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: went traveling with your partner for the first time and 560 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: they did that, because I feel like it'd be such 561 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: a dumpable event. Actually, I remember flying to Thailand with 562 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: my ex boyfriend and he wore these boat shoes the 563 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: whole day, Like, so the airport was up super early, 564 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: you know when you arrive in Pouquette, takes so long 565 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: to drive there, and then these shoes. The stink on 566 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: the shoes, like I could not get over. I had 567 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: to be like, we put these shoes outside in the back. 568 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: Have you seen the people that walk barefoot into the 569 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: plane toilet? Oh yeah, that's disgusting. That is so disgusting. 570 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: Like I feel so gross even going into those toilets, 571 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: let alone, thinking my barefoot would touch the ground. 572 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: Do you know? 573 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: It's also terrible those people who clearly don't prepare properly 574 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: for the flight because they're constantly having to get up 575 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: and down to get stuff out of the. 576 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: Whole overhead department. 577 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: And I always feel like you're going to go through 578 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: turbulence at that time when they're opening up, everything's gonna 579 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: come out. I feel like I have pretty good etiquette 580 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: on the plane until it lands on the ground, and 581 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: I just want to get the fuck off it. 582 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: So I'm one of those people people. 583 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: That just stands up as soon as it lands and 584 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: like barges my way out. Se you're one of those dickheads. No, 585 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: I'll stand. I'll stand, even if i'm you know, in 586 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: the window seat in the middle. I'll just like hunch 587 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: my back just to because you've got to let people 588 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: know I'm getting out of here, I'm exiting. 589 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: I'm the opposite. 590 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: I just sit back and think, Oh, we're You're not 591 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: going to get off any. 592 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: Quicker by pushing you away. You've got to be rude. 593 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to say that you are. I remember 594 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: going on to flight with you and being like. 595 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: Get up, get up, push it way through. 596 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: People turn into animals. You've actually got to stand up, 597 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: and you've got to sort of show I'm moving, I'm 598 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: getting out of here stuck. I feel like you've got 599 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: to maintain a certain level of respect for yourself on 600 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: the plane. You can't turn into one of the animals, 601 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: because they're the ones we're fighting against. 602 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 6: I'm literally crying because I'm so grateful for this doctor 603 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 6: coming over because I was really struggling. We'll talk about 604 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 6: it when I'm. 605 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: So, I'm going to make you feel pretty bad now, 606 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: because last week we were talking about how Shanni Grimmond 607 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: had been struck down by a mystery illness in Balley 608 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: and you poked fun and said she probably has barley belly. Well, 609 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: it ended up being something a little bit more serious. 610 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: The poor girl's got pneumonia. 611 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty serious. Yeah, shy, I know. 612 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: And it's not the first time she's had pneumonia either. 613 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: So she said when she was sixteen she was actually 614 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: hospitalized with the illness, which is horrible. So I can 615 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: see why she was so upset and scared while she 616 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: was in Bali. And so Shanni explained that it all 617 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: started when she had a chest infection from going in 618 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: between the hot Balinese sun and into the cool, air 619 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: conditioned villa. And she said that she suddenly started coughing, 620 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 1: which threw her back out, and then she finally got 621 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: to see a doctor who diagnosed her with pneumonia. And 622 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: she said the scariest part was not knowing whether she 623 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 1: could go home or not. The good news is she 624 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: is feeling a lot better, and she said it's given 625 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: her a bit of a wake up call to look 626 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: after herself more. Mister Cartwright, you seem to be splashing 627 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: me a bit. Who stole your shoes? 628 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: Just some kids? Kids? 629 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 6: You let them get away with I laughing ature while 630 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 6: you're standing in your piss. 631 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: I think it's basically your piss. 632 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: This week, Celebspelcheck took followers on a trip down memory lane, 633 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: sharing a gallery of throwbacks to times Ozzie celebs dated 634 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: American A listers. The post, entitled When World's Collide, included 635 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: photos of a friendship between Steph class Smith and Taylor Swift, 636 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: as well as photos of Delta Goodram's romance with Nick 637 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: Jonas and James Packer and Mariah Carey's relationship. But Amy, 638 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: there was one relationship which shocked many people, including myself. 639 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: I was messaging you guys very late last night about this. Yeah. 640 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: This was the. 641 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: Relationship between former Australian of the Year Grace Tam and 642 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: actor Spencer Breslin, who was well known for his appearance 643 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: in the Cat in the Hat movie. So the pair 644 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: married in twenty seventeen when Grace was twenty two years old, 645 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: and they met in the US while Grace was their 646 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: adding Theater and Liberal Arts and Grace who's now engaged 647 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: to her new partner, Max Herey spoke to Murray Claire 648 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: last year about her marriage to the US actor, so 649 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: she said she's already closer to Max than she was 650 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: to her husband, and that's all she's really said on 651 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: the matter. There's very little known about this marriage other 652 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: than they met through mutual friends and later divorced. The 653 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: connection has led to a lot of unfair accusations against Grace. 654 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: Her detractors have come out of the woodwork claiming her 655 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: marriage proves she just wants fame, which is such a 656 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: disgusting accusation and is just so unfair and unfounded. It 657 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: was not like that guy was mega famous. I had 658 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: no idea what his name actually was. 659 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: He was in a few movies as a kid. 660 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: You notice, the most evil thing ever is to just 661 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: be previously an actor. It's like anyone on reality TV 662 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: if they're an actor, everyone's like they're a fake, they're 663 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: a frad They're just wanting, you know, attention. 664 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe she just wanted to be an actress. 665 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: Now, another little known celebrity can with Grace tame is 666 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: comedian John Cleese. So Grace is a big Monty Python fan, 667 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: and she started watching this series shortly after she reported 668 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: her teacher for rape. 669 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: She said she felt. 670 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: Broken and depressed at the time, and the show made 671 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: her smile and laugh. She would sit and draw whilst 672 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: watching the show and dreamt of one day giving the 673 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: cast a painting. Now, by chance, whilst Grace was in 674 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: the US, she actually met John Cleese's daughter, Camilla Now. 675 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Camilla had heard about Grace's artwork, so she asked her 676 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: to do an illustration of her dad for Father's Day. Now. 677 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: This led to her producing illustrations for the Holy Grail 678 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: tour and subsequently, of course, meeting John Claes. And I'm 679 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 1: so jealous because I loved him growing up on Faulty Towers. 680 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: I would watch it every weekend. 681 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: Was so good I could quote the whole thing, I think, 682 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: and her artwork is insane. 683 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: So John Clees shared a picture that she did on 684 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: Twitter and it is absolutely amazing. Well, I think that's 685 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: all we've got time for today. 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