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Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast mini.

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Speaker 2: But when you're in a rash, who will face Lord

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Speaker 2: Sugar's firing line? New Celebrity Prentice Sunday seven o'clock and

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Speaker 2: Monday to Wednesday seven thirty on Channel nine and nine

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Speaker 2: now now Woods. I'm not just needlessly sproking another crap

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Speaker 2: TV show here, because this TV's not not crap. It's

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Speaker 2: brilliant and we're in it, Mate, Blood, we are in

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Speaker 2: Celebrity Apprentice twenty twenty two. Yeah, it's the beginning of

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Speaker 2: our Eden Maguire ascendancy to TV royalty.

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Speaker 3: Well said, Well said Will and coppered sports bet we're

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Speaker 3: at the highest odds to be voted out very quickly.

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Speaker 3: And we're still in. Baby, we are still in. So

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Speaker 3: tuning tonight to see us. And actually last night, Will,

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Speaker 3: we were actually pretty good in the episode. There was

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Speaker 3: a health retreat that we both had to put on

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Speaker 3: on both teams had to put on and Mate, you

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Speaker 3: ran a meditation which I know a lot of people

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Speaker 3: have resonated with. It was really really powerful stuff. And

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Speaker 3: you are only tipped slightly or beaten slightly by Carla

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Speaker 3: from Bankstown, who just showed vulnerability like I've never heard

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Speaker 3: before on national TV.

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Speaker 1: Here it is. It's a little bit of a win

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Speaker 1: experience for me because I've never really I guess, showing

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Speaker 1: who I am as Ben to a lot of people

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Speaker 1: really like close family and friends.

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Speaker 4: I have loved getting to know Carla over the last

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Speaker 4: two casks. But what I love more than that is

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Speaker 4: Carlor feels comfortable enough to take the mask off and

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Speaker 4: show us Ben underneath.

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Speaker 3: So you definitely know her more as Carla from Bankstown

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Speaker 3: on social media and on Celebrity Apprentice. But for the

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Speaker 3: first radio interview ever, we actually have Ben on the

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Speaker 3: line right now.

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Speaker 1: Hello, my boys, I miss you, guys, we miss you.

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Speaker 2: So Benny, can I start by saying, Ben, First of all,

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Speaker 2: you're steal my thunder on TV. Second of all, this

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Speaker 2: is the day that I announced to our audience that

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Speaker 2: I became a and you want to come on and

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Speaker 2: still on my radio show as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Congratulations. First of all, that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: You bitch all the time, Ben, who cares about him?

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about you.

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Speaker 3: How much did last night mean to you to be

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Speaker 3: you know, finally talking about why effectively you put on

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Speaker 3: that mask and become Karla from Bankstown.

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Speaker 1: I mean last night was to be honest, I kind

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Speaker 1: of tried to block out most of most of filming

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Speaker 1: the show because I was getting a bit of BTSD

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Speaker 1: thinking about it. No, like, watching it back last night

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Speaker 1: was very It was very surreal because I kind of

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Speaker 1: had forgotten the extent of what I went into detail

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Speaker 1: and things like that with everybody. So I guess for

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Speaker 1: me it was very It was a really nice experience.

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Speaker 1: I was watching with my family and my best friends

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Speaker 1: and everyone was like crying and I'm just sitting there like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this is I just felt like, shit,

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Speaker 1: am I actually doing this? Like is this actually happening

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Speaker 1: right now to everyone in Australia. But I'm really proud

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Speaker 1: of myself for I guess, putting myself out there and

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Speaker 1: showing a more vulnerable side of Carla and myself. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: hopefully you know, there's other kids out there and other

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Speaker 1: people watching that you know, feeling the same way like

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Speaker 1: mentally and they can't express how they feel and who

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Speaker 1: they are, and hopefully I can be that person to

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Speaker 1: help them bring them out of that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you absolutely will be Ben. Can I just

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Speaker 3: say that there's no doubt that you would have given

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Speaker 3: a lot of power to people who are probably you know,

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Speaker 3: having feelings that you felt early on in your life,

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Speaker 3: you know, about your identity, et cetera. How old were

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Speaker 3: you been when you first became Karla.

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Speaker 1: I guess it would have been four. It would have

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Speaker 1: been maybe like eight or nine years ago, so I

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Speaker 1: would have probably like my twenties, just in my twenties. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But like before that, it was very much like I was.

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Speaker 1: I was always doing like different characters and different voices

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Speaker 1: and you know, just being an idiot and trying to

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Speaker 1: make myself famous on me on the internet somehow. And

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Speaker 1: I guess now it's work, so here I am. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're like I mean forever, I've always kind of just

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Speaker 1: used my humor and you know, trying to make people

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Speaker 1: laugh as a way of you know, masking how I'm

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Speaker 1: really feeling about, you know, myself, and you know, the

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Speaker 1: way I look in the way I feel and how

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Speaker 1: people perceive me and things like that. So you know,

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Speaker 1: Carl has been that I guess person that's been able

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Speaker 1: to It's it's almost like an alter ego, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: I look the wig on at the makeup and I,

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Speaker 1: you know, have all the confidence that I wish that

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Speaker 1: Ben had. That you know, Kyla does that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she protects you in a lot of ways, absolutely,

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Speaker 5: one hundred per I was I was joking to the

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Speaker 5: team that sometimes when we'd come into Celebrity Apprentice and

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Speaker 5: you know, you were getting your three and a half

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Speaker 5: hours of hair and makeup, and you know, the hairdresser

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Speaker 5: wol look at Will and.

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Speaker 3: Go okay, yeah, just a buffing of the bulld head.

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Speaker 5: But we used to used to live it live in.

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Speaker 2: I was in and out of the chair faster than

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Speaker 2: a four year old getting a crew cut, which is.

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Speaker 5: But we genuinely we.

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Speaker 3: Used to laugh Ben about the fact that you know,

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Speaker 3: when we saw you, you know, as Ben getting your

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Speaker 3: hair and makeup done, you know that you were you

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Speaker 3: were a more shy person, still a beautiful person, a

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Speaker 3: different person. And then five oh, sorry three and a

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Speaker 3: half hours, lady you became Carla, and you know she'd

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Speaker 3: be flirting with me and talking about my eyes.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I think I may or may not

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Speaker 1: have a video and an a criminal video of the

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Speaker 1: two of us.

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Speaker 5: Maybe you do.

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Speaker 3: And thanks for bringing that up on National radio.

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Speaker 1: Color.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's bury that we'll talk off air.

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Speaker 2: To speak to you, Carla or should I say ben

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Speaker 2: yeh wood And I love both of you guys immeasurably, mate.

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Speaker 1: I love you guys to measure my Smooty is my

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Speaker 1: Audi and Smoyt.

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Speaker 2: Good luck for Sylivi Franchice. Tonight we are back on

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Speaker 2: obviously fire out who gets a firing? Who do you

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Speaker 2: think is gonna win?

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Speaker 1: By the way, well, I definitely hope it's not Ronnie,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's the other person.

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Speaker 2: Wonder if anyone that's been watching the show you'll not

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Speaker 2: we're talking about running from the block there or running

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Speaker 2: from the cock because I like to recall him. Hell

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Speaker 2: of a guy, hell of a guy anyway. Check out

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Speaker 2: check out the podcast behind the Scenes of the debrief

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Speaker 2: on Will and Woody where we get your podcasts, and

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Speaker 2: check out Carlor from Banks down on the Socials. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna find absolute legend and a true pioneer of comedy

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Speaker 2: and video entertainment online that you're doing a wonderful job.

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Speaker 2: We love you so much.

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Speaker 5: And tonight on the show here more.

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Speaker 1: Of the boys on the full show podcast. You know

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Speaker 1: you want to