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Speaker 1: How it Buddy my radio WAB from ninety six air

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Speaker 1: FM to whereever you're listening today. This is Crazy and

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Speaker 1: Lisa's podcast coming up. On the podcast, we caught up

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Speaker 1: with Will Anderson.

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Speaker 2: We took your calls on how you had glass shatter

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Speaker 2: on you.

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Speaker 1: We got the latest on any situation in Guarza, of

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Speaker 1: course with Jonathan Cursley from My News.

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Speaker 2: And the woman who had a door prize raffle at

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Speaker 2: her funeral. It's hilarious, love it story question Everything returns

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Speaker 2: to date thirty tonight on the ABC.

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Speaker 3: Will Anderson is with us this morning.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Will, good morning, Thank you very much for

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Speaker 4: having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for being with us.

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Speaker 5: Season three already, well, we don't like that out season.

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Speaker 5: We don't like to count season one. That was our

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Speaker 5: lockdown COVID season. We decided that's just you know what.

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Speaker 5: This is season two, season two. There are some shows

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Speaker 5: like The US Office and Parks and Recreation where you're like,

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Speaker 5: don't watch the first series, right, just come in as

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Speaker 5: he is too.

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Speaker 4: That's when it gets good, doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It's like when the first floor is actually up some stairs.

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Speaker 2: It's rather than being you know down the bottom I

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Speaker 2: get you, or the hotels.

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Speaker 5: That don't have a thirteenth floor, you know, just like

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Speaker 5: twelve and fourteen and you're like, fourteen, this is definitely

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Speaker 5: isn't thirteen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like my first marriage. It doesn't really count.

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Speaker 4: Just practice practice.

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Speaker 2: What's covered in episode one of season two, Well, for people.

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Speaker 5: Who like only read the news headlines, this is the

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Speaker 5: show for you. It's basically what we've discovered on our show. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: is those bigger letters at the top of the article, Like,

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Speaker 5: lots of people just read those, but if you actually

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Speaker 5: read the smaller letters that are underneath the bigger letters,

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Speaker 5: they will often tell you that the big letters are

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Speaker 5: full of shit. They'll tell you that the big letters

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Speaker 5: in and go actually the few provisors to what the

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Speaker 4: So we like to read the little letters and tell

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Speaker 2: Another thing that annoys me about those articles with the

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Speaker 2: then they have the first paragraph and that's always the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're just repeating the lot I are that

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Speaker 5: point because the actual truth of the article is about

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Speaker 5: Sometimes we'll have people say your researchers are amazing, what

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Speaker 5: do they do? And I'm like, read to the end

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Speaker 1: It's a bidlve fishing though, isn't it. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: The headline is the bait, and it works very very often.

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Speaker 5: The thing is also that most of us just read

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Speaker 5: of the debate is like, he's often formed out of

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Speaker 5: the fact that you just read the headlines on Monday

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Speaker 5: morning and posta conglu the Australian football coach kicking big

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Speaker 5: by itself is news. You can report that as news.

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Speaker 5: That is proper news. The headline was and does something

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Speaker 4: Correct a woman publicly. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, there's one thing about headlines that drives me mad online.

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Speaker 5: parag exactly. So you've only read the headline. Your comments

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Speaker 5: the end of the article and imply that you've read through.

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Speaker 5: You can only unlock each stage once you've read it.

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Speaker 5: The other one is you can read about your bikini

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Speaker 4: It is that you're interested in.

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Speaker 5: First you have to read an article about something that's

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Speaker 4: You've got any vegetables before you get your dessert?

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Speaker 2: The headline comments in another section called I just came

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Speaker 4: Yea, my comments on the headline.

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Speaker 3: Now I play?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, right, that's become a whole new things. How

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Speaker 5: Like when people agree, they just go, oh, we've just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the person who just commented I don't care about this, okay.

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Speaker 4: This one? Who are these people? Which is all the

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Speaker 5: And I was like, actually, if you've read the article,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we must congratulate you. After nine years, your podcast

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Speaker 3: What do you make of what it's become? Is that

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Speaker 5: Well, it's funny, like I have another podcast started like

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Speaker 5: I can't tell you what it's about because when we

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Speaker 5: No one was asking follow up questions, I mean, what's

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Speaker 2: Thirteen years sound the track and thirty odd foot of

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Speaker 9: Ago exactly, Question Everything Words to Live By returns at

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Speaker 9: eight thirty tonight on the ABC Good Luck with season

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Speaker 9: two slash three or three slash two actually Question Everything

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Speaker 2: Are you worried that when you die no one will

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Speaker 3: One last laugh. Well, I think the kid that didn't

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the story. Ah, that is very cool.

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Speaker 2: Alec Baldwin is possibly heading back to court to face

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Speaker 2: new criminal charges over what happened on the set of Rust.

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Speaker 2: as prosecutors now. If you read the book Lessons in

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Speaker 3: Not an odd story, interesting story though.

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Speaker 2: And Bill Nye is the booky's favorite to play Lord Voldemort.

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Speaker 2: That's what my cat did yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Named, I have absolutely no idea. I have never read

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Speaker 6: I've never seen one.

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Speaker 6: There you go. I nearly wasn't here today. Lease, what

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you know we moved house right, Yes, it

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Speaker 6: No, we like a move we like for stamp duty.

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Speaker 1: with glass. As I picked it up, I was wearing thongs.

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Speaker 3: And hang on, you were moving a piece of glass

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Speaker 6: The problem was they weren't my thongs over Lorri's because

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Speaker 2: I'm not even going there's little thime, But do not

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Speaker 6: Safety sandals, some glass. Yeah I'm not that bright.

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Speaker 3: But go on.

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Speaker 1: So I pick up said piece of glass with Lory's

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Speaker 3: Last Oh my god. Moving moving.

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Speaker 2: People have told me horror stories, but it's usually outdoor furniture.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even a pop, they say sometimes in the

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Speaker 1: safety glass Cajillian bits fine.

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Speaker 6: Everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I found some bits, like on the other side of

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Speaker 6: And Lorry's songs didn't help. So, you know, even those.

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Speaker 1: still still good. A few cuts in the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: I won't get any support either, because I was an idiot.

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Speaker 1: It was wearing Lory's songs. This thing went to a

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Speaker 3: It's designing to do that must have scared the bird.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, Jesus out of here. I'm still scared.

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Speaker 6: I reckon.

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Speaker 1: I'll be finding little bits of glass in my garage

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Speaker 1: in twenty two twenty seven.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: Does that like you find the Easter eggs after a

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Speaker 3: You don't. Everyone is accounted to within twenty minute.

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Speaker 2: You do an infantry, But I don't wear thongs when

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Speaker 2: I'm moving glass.

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Speaker 1: Will you know I'm an idiot? But will you come

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Speaker 1: over and help me sweep it up? Because I'm still sweeping.

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Speaker 2: No, but I'll come over and help you find any

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Speaker 6: Especially if the family that lived there had lots of kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeahwe tell me this, does it make a noise or

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Speaker 6: Of when it goes like, does it ka boom?

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Speaker 1: It was it was an it exploder, and it's quite

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Speaker 1: obviously it was unstable.

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Speaker 2: So that would scare you. Then you're showered in in

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Speaker 1: And then you have to try and do you start

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Speaker 1: Whether it's safety glass or not, it's still damned glass

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Speaker 3: Well, like I said, I have heard from the moving

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're usually guys telling me horror stories about In fact,

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Speaker 2: the last one when I moved, he said, we're because

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Speaker 2: I had quite a few things at glass and they

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Speaker 3: I've gradually just dropped it, got rid of all glass.

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Speaker 2: I don't want glass in my house, even the windows.

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Speaker 3: Glad wrapt.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: He said he was carrying an outdoor table dangerous and

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Speaker 2: it exploded, like he said, it was a huge explosion.

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Speaker 2: Showered him in this stuff, and the woman you know

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Speaker 2: whose house it was, said, what have you done to

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Speaker 8: Really?

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Speaker 4: Not?

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Speaker 3: Are you okay? So what have you done to my table?

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Speaker 1: Obviously, safety glass gets unstable after a certain number of years,

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Speaker 1: but you never know when it's going to happen, because

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Speaker 1: I had things on this table for a couple of weeks. Anyway, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: Well we need to talk about the glass issue, don't we.

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Speaker 2: Glass breaks? When did a break in case of emergency

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Speaker 2: break class?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: How did the glass break? Felicity and Alexander Height? Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 2: how are you mamma?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What is your experience with glass?

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Speaker 7: Sorry? Back in the olden days when I was a teenager,

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Speaker 7: it exploded and I got a huge glass chard in

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Speaker 7: my thought and to this day there was a huge,

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Speaker 7: big lump of tendency. That's very painful.

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Speaker 6: So just went and that's not safety glass.

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Speaker 4: That stuff.

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Speaker 3: Oh that was proper glass, yeah, exact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh did you put you off collar?

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Speaker 7: Not quite?

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Speaker 8: Put on plastic bottles?

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Speaker 7: I had my foot up at home couldn't get up,

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Speaker 7: and there was a knock at the door. No one

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Speaker 7: a twenty four packh really.

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Speaker 3: That's all you want, twenty four just to take your doorsteps.

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Speaker 10: Weapons not the best marketing.

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Speaker 2: Felicity Leslie in Lintlewood, Hello Leslie.

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Speaker 8: Hi, how you going good?

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Speaker 2: What's your experience with exploding glass?

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Speaker 8: Well, it was my son who, when he was younger,

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Speaker 8: He had decided to do an experiment on outdoor glass table,

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Speaker 8: had put a little kin there and filled it up

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Speaker 8: with the sparklers and lit them, and of course it

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Speaker 3: To tell list.

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Speaker 8: So lucky I had a few helpers and we cleaned

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Speaker 8: I can't really quite remember what the reaction.

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Speaker 3: Of his was.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to hide it, you know, Dad walks, it

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Speaker 2: gets home, he opens a cold one and he walks,

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Speaker 6: It drops right through.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks, Leslie, Leslie.

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Speaker 1: I did never mate who used to blow up cool

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Speaker 1: drink bottles with his dad's break fluid and clorine. And

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Speaker 1: that wasn't very smarts, not very smart at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: bang lord, how we survived being a kid?

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Speaker 3: Where is it with boys and loving explosions?

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Speaker 1: Don't get it.

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Speaker 6: It's weird enough.

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Speaker 2: Glenn in Mayland's good morning to you, Glenn, morning, how

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Speaker 2: are you now? We've been talking about last incidents. Watch

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Speaker 2: what happened? Tell us it's shattering story.

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Speaker 11: Working as a maintenance got a big hotel in the

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Speaker 6: That'll problem. Glenn.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So bang Like like you say, it's like a

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Speaker 11: scaping for the next six months were picking up bits

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Speaker 11: of glass and every morning, yeah, found a few more

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Speaker 11: by Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's more reminders, oh dear, which means in turn,

450
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Speaker 2: they didn't let you live it down.

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Speaker 4: For a while.

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Speaker 11: No, No, it was a running joke for for quite

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Speaker 11: a while.

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Speaker 6: No one got hurt, Glenn, No.

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Speaker 10: No, it's just a little bit of glass.

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Speaker 12: Whole bloody for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, awkward, Thanks Glenn Mitch in Currambine, Hello, good morning.

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Speaker 3: What's your shattering story?

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Speaker 12: I was working as a field I was in labs

460
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Speaker 12: and I was on my way to work and there's

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Speaker 12: a big, very large wedge tail having your feet slow

462
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Speaker 12: down and he's starting to take off away from the

463
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Speaker 12: road and I thought cool, no, and he turned around

464
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Speaker 12: the last minute because I used that he's off the

465
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Speaker 12: road to get lift and he came straight through the bonnet,

466
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Speaker 12: rolled out of the bonnet, through the windscreen and landed

467
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Speaker 12: the passion to see to the youth. I jumped on

468
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Speaker 12: the brakes, pulled off the road, bailed out the door

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Speaker 12: and stood and waited. A couple of minutes later, it

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Speaker 12: woke up and walked over, stuck its head out the

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Speaker 12: door and looked at me, looked around and hold down and.

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Speaker 6: Floor of wow.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Would have been a little bit worse for wear.

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Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, and piking bits of glass out of me

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Speaker 12: for a while.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 12: And luckily my boss was behind me, so she saw

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Speaker 12: what was going on. Otherwise she wouldn't have.

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Speaker 6: Believed that it was one of those ones.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, because unless it yells shot gun as it comes

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Speaker 2: through the wind screen.

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Speaker 6: It was wow, and they're not small.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 3: That's thank you, Thank you, Mitch to kneeling gods. And

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Speaker 3: also it.

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Speaker 6: Neil, Hi, how are you going to us?

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Speaker 3: Good? What's your glass shuttering story?

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Speaker 8: Okay, so when I was about twelve years old, I

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Speaker 8: owned one of those lava lamps I love.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I.

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Speaker 12: Couldn't get the lava in it to move.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't working right, Okay, it's a problem.

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Speaker 8: My parents were out of the house, so I decided

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Speaker 8: to put the lava lamp in the microwave to melt it.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, idea, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 8: And of course it exploded and yeah, I think I

498
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Speaker 8: might have you broke the microwave too, because I had

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Speaker 8: a middle cap on top.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Oh and yeah, my mom's still My mum still reminded

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Speaker 8: me of that story to this day.

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Speaker 6: And I'm thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Now, So yeah, that's just dangerous to start with, really,

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Speaker 1: when you've got light and water and whatever.

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Speaker 2: That was one idiot at the party who wanted to

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Speaker 2: have a drink from it. I love lava laps, but

508
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Speaker 2: ninety eight percent of them, we're always fraught with fraught

509
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Speaker 2: And I said, didn't move properly, They didn't do what

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Speaker 2: they said on the bill.

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Speaker 1: Please tell us it was an orange one, because I

512
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Speaker 1: love the orange lava lamps. A lot of people wouldn't

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Speaker 1: share that story, but we're glad you did.

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Speaker 7: All the time.

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Speaker 1: More Crazy, More Lisa, More podcasts soon.

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Speaker 2: We're joined now by Jonathan Curzley, Channel nine's US correspondent.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Jonathan.

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Speaker 10: Good morning to you both, and good morning for your

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Speaker 10: listeners as well.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan.

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Speaker 2: There has of course been quite a few developments on

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Speaker 2: the Gaza Strip since we last spoke to you this morning.

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Speaker 2: Probably the biggest thing that people are talking about is

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Speaker 2: the Palestinian hospital rocked by an explosion. Hundreds of reported dead,

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Speaker 2: but there's some towing and throwing on who's to blame there.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is a real blind game now, and it's

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Speaker 10: a very very delicate situation and a very tragic situation.

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Speaker 10: You've got hundreds of people dead estimations early on with

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Speaker 10: two hundreds and three hundred, it could be many as

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Speaker 10: five hundred or more. It is late in the night there,

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Speaker 10: It is overnight, very much in the early hours of

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Speaker 10: the morning, and it is still an emergency situation. They

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Speaker 10: are still trying to deal with the situation on the ground.

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Speaker 10: But as you say, blame game has emerged and mass

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Speaker 10: blamed Israel. Israel blame day An Islamic gy adascript and

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Speaker 10: says he has evidence to prove that this was a

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Speaker 10: misfire from one of their missiles. Are good that they

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Speaker 10: say are terrorists that they claim was misfired and struck

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Speaker 10: the hospital. Israel is adamant existing it was not them.

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Speaker 10: They are not to blame for this deadly strike on

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Speaker 10: this hospital. And this through the whole sequence of events

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Speaker 10: in the region really in two complete chaos. Joe Biden

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Speaker 10: is now on his way to the region. The US

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Speaker 10: President was due to hold high stakes talks in Israel

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Speaker 10: and in Jordan, particularly with Arab leaders. Three Arab leaders

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Speaker 10: in Jordan. That section of the trip is now off

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Speaker 10: and awake of this dead strike. So Joe Biden now

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Speaker 10: traveling all of his play to meet Benjamin Netanya, who

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Speaker 10: show American support for Israel. But it's a very, very

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Speaker 10: delicate situation. On the ground, there.

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Speaker 1: Was speculation that the President wouldn't go. Now does it

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Speaker 1: have any real impact with him being there? Does it

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Speaker 1: make things worse?

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean imagine the ramifications of this attack and

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Speaker 10: the discussions that would have been going on inside the

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Speaker 10: White House. The White House says that Joe Biden was

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Speaker 10: being brief players National Security team, that he spoke to

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Speaker 10: his Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln, who is in the

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Speaker 10: Middle East, that he also spoke to Benjamin met yahoo

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Speaker 10: in the Israeli Prime Minister before he took off. Now

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Speaker 10: you can imagine one of the questions he may well

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Speaker 10: have wanted to ask him, was Israel behind this attack?

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Speaker 10: If you were, then I cannot go to see you.

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Speaker 10: Now that may well have been one of the questions

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Speaker 10: he wanted to ask him before he actually set foot

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Speaker 10: on the plane and made his way to the region.

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Speaker 10: Then just as he's about to leave the White House

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Speaker 10: and Justice, he's about to go to Joe Bess Andrews

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Speaker 10: and stepped on the plane. Jordan's fineman is announced. The

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Speaker 10: whole Jordan somebody is off. So he won't be meeting

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Speaker 10: at CC, he won't be meeting King ab Dora or Jordan.

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Speaker 10: He won't be meeting or to bus the palaestin near

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Speaker 10: authority leader three leaders. He would have been wanting to

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Speaker 10: see face to face, to talk to them. That's not

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Speaker 10: to say talks won't be happening behind the scenes while

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Speaker 10: he is in the air. Yeah, but certainly this is

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Speaker 10: a blow for his diplomatic mission. Maybe now his focus

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Speaker 10: is to try and pull Israel back and say to them,

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Speaker 10: perhaps a grand invasion into Gaza is not a great idea.

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Speaker 3: Well, this was going to be my next question to you, Jonathan.

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Speaker 2: The other day, Israel was pretty firm in giving northern

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Speaker 2: Gaza a fairly, fairly short deadline to move because that

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Speaker 2: defensive was going to begin, and I think Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: was one of, maybe not even the only leader to

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Speaker 2: kind of gently suggest that that's a little unreasonable. And

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Speaker 2: so that has that hasn't started yet that offensive.

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Speaker 3: What is the latest on that.

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Speaker 10: Well, again, we'll see you seeing Israeli troops and mass

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Speaker 10: near the border with Garza. There have been tanks there

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Speaker 10: for days, tanks rolling the streets as you see continue

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Speaker 10: to attack inside Gaza. You also see continued attacks on

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Speaker 10: the Israeli Lebanese border in clashes with Israel and Hesbali

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Speaker 10: and Leatherbon. This is certainly a very very dicey situation.

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Speaker 10: You mentioned that timeline that was given, that was a

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Speaker 10: twenty four hour window, and that was days ago. Now, obviously,

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Speaker 10: behind the scenes, Israel would want to be planning and

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Speaker 10: meticulously thinking through how it would carry out any sort

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Speaker 10: of move into Gaza. But the US President Joe Biden

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Speaker 10: clearly going with a mission in mind to say to

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Speaker 10: Israel occupation reoccupation of Gaza should not be very objective.

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Speaker 10: Now Israel says it's not that would throw potentially the

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Speaker 10: entire region back into chaos. But the American officials have

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Speaker 10: admitted that this is a critical time for Israel, critical

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Speaker 10: time for the region, and a critical time for the world.

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Speaker 10: Now this is even more.

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Speaker 2: It certainly is when we're talking in the news with

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Speaker 2: Hamas and Hesball are in the same sentence again, it's

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Speaker 2: not good, so dangerous, No.

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Speaker 3: It really is not good.

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Speaker 1: And Jonathan, we're hearing about, you know, the scenes at

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Speaker 1: City Airport, you know, the repatriation flights landing there. The

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Speaker 1: mixed emotions is a lot of relief for people, but

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Speaker 1: it comes with a lot of sadness and maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit of guilt for those left behind. It's just

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Speaker 1: part of the toll for people involved, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: There is a death toll, there is a physical toll,

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Speaker 10: there is an emotional toll is being carried through all

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Speaker 10: of this just in the Middle East, but there are

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Speaker 10: viperations and they felt around the world.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 10: Obviously some joyous see some emotional scenes that's Sydney Airport,

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Speaker 10: families being reunited, but also a tinge with sadness. As

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Speaker 10: you say, there are people who have left family behind.

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Speaker 10: There are people who have left their homeland behind. What

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Speaker 10: they see is now and they feel very uncomfortable and

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Speaker 10: saddened about the fact that they have had to do that.

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Speaker 10: Many of them say they want to be able to

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Speaker 10: get back there as as soon as they possibly can,

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Speaker 10: but obviously they do in the situation right now not

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Speaker 10: to be sad enough for them to be there, so

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Speaker 10: they wanted to come to Australia where they are citizens.

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Speaker 10: Australia is also their home. But this is just another

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Speaker 10: sign of the ramifications and the repercussions that this conflict

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Speaker 10: is having.

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Speaker 3: Around the work and the other thing.

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Speaker 2: Any any sort of give on the hostage situation at

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Speaker 2: this stage.

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Speaker 10: Well, again you keep seeing the numbers bounce around on

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Speaker 10: how many Israel actually thinks the masses holding hostage. Early

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Speaker 10: on it was about one hundred to one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 10: Now it's up to around about one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 10: nine two hundred that it's estimated of being held hostage.

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Speaker 10: Now that creates another problem through Israeli moves into gards

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Speaker 10: because the mass has had a strategy before of moving

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Speaker 10: hostages around areas, taking them through tunnels in the area,

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Speaker 10: shifting them, constantly moving them around. So it's been very

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Speaker 10: difficult for American authority, through the Roly authority, struggle to

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Speaker 10: work on where some of these citizens are. It's not

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Speaker 10: as Americans in Israeli throv held hostage. There's concern for

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Speaker 10: Brits too, and these says I say, I keep saying

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Speaker 10: this is a delicate situation because it is one of Joe

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Speaker 10: Biden's main aims when he wanted to go to Israel

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Speaker 10: was to try and secure the release hostages. But without

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Speaker 10: knowing where they are, that becomes a very very difficult mission.

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Speaker 2: Certainly seemed like a strategic move on her Mask behalf

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Speaker 2: on day one to you know, set that up for

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Speaker 2: a week or two down the track when they would

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Speaker 2: need those human shields.

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, a user word human shield that's been used

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Speaker 10: a lot, and this has been a strategy from my master.

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Speaker 10: The Western governments have said four years is this is

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Speaker 10: what her Mask does. They do use people as human shields.

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Speaker 10: And with hostages they now have in their arms and

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Speaker 10: in their sights, they may seem to think that they

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Speaker 10: have some sort of upper hand in this situation. And

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Speaker 10: really what you're looking at is one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 10: nine to two hundred lives that right now hang in

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Speaker 10: the balance.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, people just become pawns, which is very very sad.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, Jonathan, thank you as always for updating us

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Speaker 2: in a bit more detail, and sadly we'll probably talk

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Speaker 2: to you again.

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Speaker 10: Nowherries at all and anybody affected by those communities obviously

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Speaker 10: or part of those communities. Obviously, our thoughts a visions

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Speaker 10: are very, very troubling.

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Speaker 1: God absolutely thanks Jonathan, Thanks Jonathan Clazy and Liza