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Speaker 1: Welcome back to two Doting Dads. A little bit of

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Speaker 1: a change of gears in this episode due to the

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Speaker 1: incident that happened over the weekend at Bondai Beach. We

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Speaker 1: do record this podcast out of North Bondi, which happens

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Speaker 1: to be Matt's house. Matt and I both agreed that

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Speaker 1: it doesn't feel quite right to release a regular episode

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Speaker 1: as we would on a Wednesday, but we will withhold

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Speaker 1: that and release it next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been trying to make sense of what's unfolded,

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Speaker 2: and it's just impossible to put into words how horrific

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Speaker 2: it was. We do want to say to the Jewish

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Speaker 2: community and to anyone who's been impacted by this, our

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Speaker 2: hearts with you. You know, on Sunday when it happened,

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Speaker 2: I was in the backyard and started hearing these popping

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Speaker 2: noises like fireworks, and I thought to myself, well, that's

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Speaker 2: really strange to have fireworks when it's not dark.

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Speaker 1: And that's what you would think. I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: sort of what's six thirty, closer to seven o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the ear evening, and maybe you would have thought that

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Speaker 2: Thought, you know, some of the high schools are off,

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Speaker 2: so I was like, maybe kids have just let off

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Speaker 2: fireworks or crackers. And then the longer I heard, I

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Speaker 2: grabbed Laura and I was like, that's that's gunshots and

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Speaker 2: Laura was like, surely not. And then we kept hearing

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Speaker 2: them and I was like, that is absolutely gunshots. And

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Speaker 2: I was then messaging a few friends as well, being

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Speaker 2: like can you hear this? Can you you know, are

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Speaker 2: you hearing what I'm hearing? And then I was just

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Speaker 2: like hoping that it was just it wasn't what the

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Speaker 2: reality was. And then messages started coming through that there

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Speaker 2: was an active shooter. And at the same time, at

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Speaker 2: the front, there's a few people who had kind of

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Speaker 2: come off the beach. You know, there's this massive stampede

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Speaker 2: of people who are escaping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're like five hundred meters from the location,

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Speaker 1: which is wild. And I did receive a message from

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Speaker 1: you as it was happening, and I was the same

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Speaker 1: as you could not believe what you were witnessing and

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Speaker 1: what you were hearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then even I looked out the front because

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Speaker 2: the rumor was that the gunmen was still in the loose,

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Speaker 2: and so we were like, okay, we'll just locked the doors.

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Speaker 2: At the same time. When I locked the doors, Laura

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Speaker 2: and I saw a couple out the front and they

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Speaker 2: looked completely shell shocked and they were kind of just

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Speaker 2: stood still but also looking around, and so you're okay,

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Speaker 2: and they're like, well, we're trying to get out of here,

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Speaker 2: but Uber's canceled four times, and we're like, just come

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Speaker 2: were like, who are these people?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: We said it's okay, like they're just they're just friends.

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Speaker 2: They're going to pop in, And it was really obvious

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Speaker 2: that they were in shock. They'd just come down from

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Speaker 2: the beach. They were just down there themselves. But they

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Speaker 2: were in our house then for a couple of hours

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Speaker 2: and then the story started coming through of what just unfolded,

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Speaker 2: and it was, Yeah, it was unlike anything I've experienced

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Speaker 2: and never wont to experience again. How long do you.

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Speaker 1: Think it went on for that you could hear, well,

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Speaker 2: At least ten minutes we could hear it. And then

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Speaker 2: I drove them that couple home maybe like two hours

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Speaker 2: afterwards when I knew it knew it was safe, but yees.

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Speaker 2: Since since then, it's just like it's hard because we've

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Speaker 2: all got such an appetite to find out what has

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Speaker 2: happened and the details around it. But then at the

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Speaker 2: social media, very quickly becomes too much. So then it's

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Speaker 2: just like you're fluctuating between your out capacity and is

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Speaker 2: too much to handle and digest, And at the same

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Speaker 2: time you also want to know the stories and the

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Speaker 2: severity of the situation to those fifty innocent people who

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Speaker 2: sadly passed away. I just I can't imagine what you're

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Speaker 2: support those families. There's a little girl called Matilda who

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Speaker 2: was ten. Fuck you know the photos of her enjoying

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Speaker 2: and it makes me so angry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sadly, Yeah, people have lost their lives and you know,

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Speaker 1: the biggest mass shooting we've had in since Port Arthur,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's amazing the community banding together and

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Speaker 1: but then also trying to explain it to you know,

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Speaker 1: I turned up today for the first time since it's happened,

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Speaker 1: and there's an eerie feeling in the air. Just days later, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was in Monday morning. School is shut for Maley's

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Speaker 2: so we had them at home. We kept Lolla home

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Speaker 2: from daycare as well. And then you know, I went

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Speaker 2: for a walk down to a local cafe and it

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Speaker 2: supporting each other, and I saw this Jewish man. We

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Speaker 2: have a quick chat, you know, we're kind of on

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Speaker 2: and I asked if he was okay, and he just

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Speaker 2: broke down. And it's hard for families in Bondai. And

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Speaker 2: then you knowing those especially the Jewish community, how much

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Speaker 2: fear that they have is so unfair, especially because that

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Speaker 2: dad who I spoke to. You know, he's grown up

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Speaker 2: here in Bondi. That area is where he's had kids' birthdays,

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Speaker 2: is where he's taught as sunder kick of football, and

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Speaker 2: he's like that space which was so special, it was

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Speaker 2: now forever going to be tarnished. And then even this morning,

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Speaker 2: you know, that feeling is still around Bondi. There was

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Speaker 2: another dad who I spoke to just just briefly and

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Speaker 2: just you know, a quick chat, and then just out

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Speaker 2: just everyone is really struggling right now to try and

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Speaker 2: comprehend what's just happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to give a special mention to

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Speaker 1: everyone that's sort of jumped in to help out. There

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Speaker 1: was so much footage from the paramedics, to the police

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Speaker 1: who acted so swiftly, to the public who were willing

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Speaker 2: And I think when you have something as horrific as that,

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Speaker 2: you're witnessing the worst of mankind, and then at the

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Speaker 2: same time you're witnessing some of the best, you know,

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Speaker 2: those the innocent bystanders who reached out to help, especially

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Speaker 2: the man the footage of the guy who was wrestling

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Speaker 1: Armed l armed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what an absolute hero. That's the bravest

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Speaker 2: thing I've ever witnessed in my life. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like, as dads, we often think about what if someone

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Speaker 1: you know, entered MySpace and I had to protect my family,

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Speaker 1: how brave would I be? And you always have it

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Speaker 1: in that mind in your mind that you're like, I

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Speaker 1: would be that person. But to put your life on

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Speaker 1: the line to save countless lives out in public with

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Speaker 1: a guy wielding essentially a rifle is absolutely unbelievable. It

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Speaker 1: was absolutely amazing to see everyone band together and continue

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Speaker 1: to as well along with you know, donating blood.

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Speaker 2: At the time of recording, they still need own negative

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Speaker 2: So if you do want to donate blood, you can

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Speaker 2: go to lifeblood dot com dot au for details on that.

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Speaker 2: We will put those details in the show notes as well. Also,

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Speaker 2: just want to say a huge thank you to all

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Speaker 2: and the family. It's hugely appreciated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes to show what sort of community that

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Speaker 1: we are a part of, and we appreciate every single

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Speaker 1: one of you, and look after your friends, look after

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Speaker 1: those closest to you, and we'll leave some really important

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Speaker 1: resources in the show notes that you can access now.

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Speaker 2: This is our last record for the year, so we

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Speaker 2: will be hanging up the head after this. We have

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Speaker 2: an episode coming out next week with April, which is

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Speaker 2: a pre recorded episode, and then we will have best

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Speaker 2: OF's up.

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Speaker 1: Until twenty sixth of January, that's correct, and we will

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Speaker 1: have brand new episodes from that point onwards. From Matt

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Speaker 1: n thank you so much for an amazing year, and

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Speaker 1: look after yourselves and enjoy the break and.

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Speaker 2: Lots of love. Thanks very much, Thanks guys, Goodbye,