WEBVTT - BACH UNCUT BONUS - debunking the rumours with Jay 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.160 Hi, guys, and a welcome to a very special Little 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.920 Sexy Bonus episode where I'm right and Maddie Johnson's wrong. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.960 Jay unfortunately went home. How does it feel, Matt. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.920 Look, it's very disappointing. I know that Jay's had a 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.840 heartbroken here, which, yes, that is disappointing in its own sense. 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.960 But more importantly, I'm wrong. I've lost the bet I 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.080 lost to Laura BYRN and I hate losing it sucks. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.440 I wish we'd made the bet something more substantial. It 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.360 was fifty dollars, and I guarantee you I'll never see 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:51.040 that fifty dollars. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:52.800 Was it even fifty dollars? I'm pretty sure that we 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.800 had a bet whoever one gets sex. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.760 I was like, I would prefer sleep, please. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.880 So the good news is, Laura, you'll get laid tonight. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:06.080 Lucky me. Anyway, Guys, on today's episode, we are interviewing Jay, 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.600 who if you saw last night's Bachelor episode, she went home. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.959 Jimmy kicked it to the curb. See later, Chess girl. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.039 I don't think we've ever had one contestant that's been 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.839 plagued by so many rumors. It was like every week 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:20.800 there was something new, so we have a lot to 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:22.320 debunk with our love a little Jay. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.759 We even find out that Jay is not a real name. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.840 D Anyway, guys, let's get into the chat with Jay. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.400 We have our normal batch uncut episode coming to you 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.560 tomorrow on Friday, and we've also got a couple of 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.240 other sexy little bonus episodes in store for you as well. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.760 Getting a little bit emotional, it's the home run. It's 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.800 the last few strides until we cross the finish line 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.119 and then it's all over. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:46.959 What are you gonna do with yourself when you're no 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:48.520 longer behind the microphone? 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:51.320 Don't know? Good question? 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.200 Clean? It would be nice clean. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.560 Probably not clean. I'll still keep thinking. I'm sure something 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:57.760 will pop up and grab me. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.880 Well long, Glenn, don't spend too much time thinking of 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.400 And in the meantime, let's get into the interview with Jay. Jay, 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.040 Welcome to life on card. Thank you for having me, Matt, 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:08.320 how are you feeling, Jay? 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:08.960 I'm annoyed? 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:09.640 Annoyed? 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.919 Why only fifty bucks because that's what I've got to 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:12.400 pay Laura? 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.720 What did you Laura? Did you think I wasn't gonna win? 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.440 I see I picked Holly on the day one we 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.440 put our bets down and I was like, I reckon, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.000 it's blondie and that was like, nah, chess girl. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:24.560 She's my girl. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.760 And then you know what, Sorry, give me a real 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:28.519 problem in our house. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.800 Jay, I'm so sorry to let you down. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:32.519 I'm very disappointed. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:33.880 It's not my fault. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.799 Blame Jimmy, Jimmy. Mate, We're coming for you. Jay. Look, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.440 we do have a couple of things that we want 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.560 to do bunk now. There's been a lot of rumors 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:42.840 that have been flying around. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:44.480 Yeah, my god, and I. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.839 Feel like this is the opportunity that you can use 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.280 to clear the air. So let's just like hit them 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:50.079 one by one. 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.639 Okay, First up, is your name actually Jay? 0:02:54.800 --> 0:03:00.040 No, it's just Center for more Lies. Sorry, guys, I 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.840 just bring this on you. No, my name's actually just 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:03.200 sent it. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.960 And I had to give a nickname because I don't 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.520 know if you guys remember, but there was a girl 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:09.720 at the beginning who also had the same name as me, 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.160 which is so weird because just Sina's not really comment. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:16.240 I'll be honest, I don't remember that other. But I 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.600 had the same problem because we had two mats, and 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.800 so I had to be called a nickname. Which is 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.720 why I was called Maddi j Ah. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.520 Do you go, like, do you prefer Maddie Jay Matt? 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.560 Well, now it's just kind of become the norm, but 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.880 it does feel a little bit immature when you're in 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.119 your mid thirties and you've got two kids and you're like, hey, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:34.760 I'm Maddie J. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:36.200 Maddy J. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.080 It's just his stage name. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.560 I like Maddi J and I like Jay as well. 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:42.880 All Right, guys, stop it, I'm still here. I know 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.240 it's been very excited about doing this interview with Jay. Okay, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.520 so let's just hit these from the top. Jay, do 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:50.760 you want to have kids? 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:52.640 Oh my god, this is this. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.800 Was probably the most annoying rumor because I really really 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.800 really want kids, and if my mum ever found out 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.080 that I didn't want kid should kill So, yeah, I 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.080 do want kids, and I'm thirty two, so I kind 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:04.880 of want kids soon. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.720 All Right, Jay's mum, don't worry. Okay, You're gonna be 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:08.480 a nana one day. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.160 Next question, do you actually played chess? 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.600 I do I do? Do you guys play? 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:15.440 No? 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.520 I watched The Queen's Gambits. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.080 I don't think anyone played that. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.200 Yeah, I learned probably about four years ago, so I 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.240 haven't played Growing Up or anything, and I just got 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:26.960 obsessed with it. 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:28.680 I love it. It's so much fun. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.800 I'm not very good with games in general. I don't 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.880 have the patience for these sorts of things, and that 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:37.520 you just keep hijacking it, not actually debunking the real rumors. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.560 Actually the rumors that we needed to get to the 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.440 bottom of. These are ones that are just popping up 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.000 randomly in my head. But yeah, the baby one. That 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.480 was when that started, I got a little bit nervous. 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.719 At that point. I was still going really hard on 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.320 the fact that I thought you were going to win. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.560 But I thought, hey, one little speed bump in the road, 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.960 not a major issue. We can get past this. And 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.520 I think the next rumor after that was it. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:03.600 Did you actually want to come second? 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.680 Yes, Tarany's rumor. 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:06.920 Yeah one. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.200 This is also another funny one, because I just don't 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.680 know how coming second would be better than winning. I 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.920 don't think, like heaven your heart broken on national television 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.560 is better than you know, falling in love. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.320 I mean, it turned out okay for Mattie j. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:27.360 But apart from him, sometimes sometimes coming second is actually 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.080 quite beneficial in the long run. 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:30.000 Oh really? 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.840 Oh well, so that's another thing. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.839 Also, probably one of the biggest mistakes I made going 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.720 onto the show is I didn't really watch. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:38.680 The Batchel of Australia. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.080 I think I only ever watched the first season with 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.360 Anna and Tim years years and years ago. 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.960 So even if that was a thing. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.279 I wouldn't have even known, and I probably should have 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.480 watched more episodes before actually going on to the TV show. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.039 What to be fairther I made that same mistake. I 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.560 didn't really watch any of The Australian Bachelor before I 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.359 went on the show, and I almost think that it 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.800 made me more resistant to the process, like it was. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.719 Actually it was detrimental to my experience because I was like, 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.120 everyone here is trying to fuck with me, instead of 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.120 just being able to give into the process a little 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:11.520 bit more. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.880 Yeah, I just want to double check, Jay. Did you 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.400 say it as a joke, potentially talking about when you 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.520 wanted to come second and you know, when you say, hey, 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.560 if I don't win, it's not all bad. Maybe you 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.919 know I'll come runner up and that'll suit me just fine. 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.680 Did you throw it out there as a bit of 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.440 a self defense mechanism, perhaps. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.839 One hundred percent. That never came out of my mouth 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.480 and I would never ever say that. So no, okay, 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.640 and I'll stick to that. So I'll take that to 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.719 my grave. I never see that, and I would never 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.320 say that even as a joke. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.880 All Right, we're debunking the rumors here now the last 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.560 one and this isn't a rumor. It's the one that 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.359 came up last night on the show, and it was 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.400 seemed to be like the next kind of hurdle that 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.720 you guys had to overcome. Obviously, at Hometown's one of 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.400 your close friends talked to Jimmy about how you had 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.560 dated someone who was in the public eye. And then 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.200 last night on your very special like last final Date, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.479 you had to have the conversation that the person you 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.560 had dated was actually the Bachelor of New Zealand. Yeah, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.960 this is crazy. Okay, So it turns out you've seen 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:11.800 the Bachelor, but just not the Australian version. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:12.240 Yeah. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.320 Now, did you guys date before he was the Bachelor 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:16.640 or after he was the Bachelor? 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:17.400 Yeah? 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.640 So I dated him literally when I was twenty six 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:21.560 and I'm thirty two. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.240 Now he became the Bachelor. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.400 Well, it was released that he was the Bachelor five 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.240 days before I went into filming for the Bechel of Australia. 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.000 So it was all a huge coincidence. And I dated 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.440 the guy for a couple of months. It wasn't quite 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.600 a significant relationship in my life, so I found this 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:40.040 so irrelevant. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:41.920 I just don't know why it was made such a 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:42.400 big dealer. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.440 I think it's really interesting though, because the way that 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.160 it came across when with and maybe it did partly 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.480 go with the editing, because I felt like there was 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.400 more to that conversation than we actually saw what happened. 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.840 But the way it came across was that you guys 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.160 had dated after he was the Bachelor, and that the 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.600 reason why you had dated was because, oh, like you know, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.240 it's so attractive to date the bachelor. But now, obviously 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.640 this is somebody who's from far in your past. So 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.640 I feel like this we've debunked the rumors. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:07.840 Matt. 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:08.640 I feel good about this. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.120 But when you were twenty six, did you have any 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.840 kind of feeling that maybe he would become the Bachelor 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.200 in the future, six years down the track? 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:17.640 Yeah? 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.760 You know what, Yeah, I predicted that he would be 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.200 the Bachelor in six years time, and then I would 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.520 go on to the bachel Australia. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.600 I just yeah, I can tell the future, guys. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.720 So that's storyline pretty much sucked up almost the entire 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.640 date that you and Jimmy had. Is that how it 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.040 played out? Or was that just a small portion of 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.160 what you guys talked about. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.560 To be honest, that was a very memorable part of 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.640 that date for me because it caught me off guard. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.160 I had no idea he was gonna ask me about 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:46.800 that because it was so irrelevant. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:48.920 So I do feel like it was a big part 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:49.560 of the date. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.640 Unfortunately, but prior to that, I think all the rumors 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:58.360 that surrounded me were over exaggerated on TV because there 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.520 were a lot of really nice moments Thatjimmy and I 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.200 had that weren't shown, which was a bit upsetting, But 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.160 I guess it wasn't dramatic enough. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:05.600 I don't know. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.760 No, it definitely felt like each date, and I think 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.720 like from the tennis date that you guys had, it 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.880 felt like each date a component of your date was 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.880 you having to like defend yourself or protect yourself or 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.760 debunk something that had happened. You said like that you 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.600 didn't really feel like that was a big part. Did 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:23.720 you at the time, did you really feel like you 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.760 were having to defend yourself at each point along the way, 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.040 or did you kind of feel like you guys were 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.040 able to have this natural progression to your relationship. 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.480 From the tennis So the tennis date was actually fine. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.480 I was like the way they showed the tennis date 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.200 looked really bad and that we just spoke about the 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.480 rumor about him hearing that I didn't want to have kids, 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.560 But that was the tiniest part of that date. We 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.640 literally played tennis, We laughed, we talked about our feelings. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.000 That was probably one of my favorite dates I had 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.239 with Jimmy, which was a shame because. 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.400 All you saw from that was literally the rumor. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.360 So, yeah, a lot of things like that happened, which 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.520 was upsetting, but I guess it is what it is. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.400 I've got to ask Jay, your friend from your hometown 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:07.000 date who brought up your famous ex. Have you since 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.600 spoken to her and gone, what the fuck did you 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:10.120 do that for? 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.920 Yeah, it's a hard one to talk about, to be honest, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.400 that I have spoken to her since. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.520 Were you surprised last night? Like when we watched it, 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.240 you seemed like you were surprised when Jimmy didn't choose you, 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.720 did you feel, like, how did you feel in that moment? 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.120 I had an inkling that he wasn't going to pick 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.880 me that night, just because the last date he was 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.800 still questioning my integrity. So I kind of prepared myself 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:34.760 to not get a rose that night. But there was 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.480 a little voice in the back of my head saying, 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.000 maybe you're wrong, maybe you will. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:39.280 So part of me. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.120 Knew I was going home, and part of me was 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.920 hoping that I wasn't going to go home. So it 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.120 was a weird one because I kind of prepared for it, 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.120 But you kind of can't prepare for it in a 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.840 way because, yeah, I don't know. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:51.080 You always hope for the best. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.960 Yeah, I think there is, Like I mean, obviously, like 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.720 I am lucky Matt and I are still together, but 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:01.560 I think like just just I've really done it to us? No, 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.679 But I think you go into those situations and you 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.360 like expect the worst but hope for the best. It's 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.360 the only way to protect your heart. Like you almost 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.000 can't go in there with the blind faith that it's 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.600 going to be you because it's so fifty to fifty, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.200 you know, it's it's so difficult to kind of feel 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.000 confident in that environment. How did you feel about Jimmy 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:21.679 at that point in time, Like, where were you at 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.320 with your actual feelings towards him? 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.400 I obviously I really really really liked him, and you 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.679 can tell from when I left. I forgot because it's 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.920 been so long since we filmed. I forgot how I 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.680 felt about him back then. But watching that last night 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.160 brought back all those feelings, and it reminded me that 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.160 I did really like the guy and I could see 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:40.240 a future with him. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.320 So yeah, it was it was hard to watch last night. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.320 In your defense, if you did really want to make 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.480 it to the runner up position, you should have just 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:49.280 said I love you. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.520 I know it seems as I was sorry one that 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:54.520 didn't say it. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.600 So do you think Jimmy in any way sent you 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.760 home at number three just so you didn't get that 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.320 runner up position that people were talking about. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.520 You know what, I wouldn't be surprised it would have 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.400 looked so bad if I'd come runner up. 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.400 You mentioned watching it back, you were feeling a little 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.640 bit sad last night, and it does bring up sort 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.040 of like I know, it's been a lot quite a 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.280 while since the filming actually happened, and then watching it 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.800 back on TV now it kind of throws you back 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.600 into all of those feelings. But how did you feel 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.080 watching that the entire season back? Do you feel like 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.400 it was edited in a way that you would have expected. 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.199 Was there anything that surprised you watching this season back? 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.920 I think, yeah, like the way I was portrayed, I 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.120 guess caught me off guard. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:37.559 I didn't. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.040 I think a lot of the good moments that Jimmy 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.240 and I had weren't shown, and a lot of me 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.320 on the show was just basically trying to defend myself. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.520 Yeah, it was almost the midway point where things started 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.120 to turn. Because at the start, and that's why, and 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.640 that's why I thought that you were going to win, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.160 because you had this dream run the start, the red 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.800 carpet was perfect. You then got the business class lounge, 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.360 and then every time you're in the lounge, you had 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.520 these awesome activities planned, and I was like, this girl's 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.000 showing of course she's gonna win. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.160 After your first date, which was like one of the 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.240 most impressive dates where you guys had like the race cars, 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:10.640 and I don't know, I kind of it was like 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.160 literally like Land Sea Scout, like everything. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.200 The jet ski as well. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.720 It was incredible, and that kind of like was the 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.400 one date of the season that really felt like true 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.920 Bachelor's style or you know, like Jimmy had pulled out 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.480 all the big guns literally for this date. And I 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.040 wasn't even aware of this, but when we did one 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:27.840 of the batch on Cut episodes and Matt sort of said, 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.320 you know, when you're super into a girl, that's the 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:34.000 girl that you save the really exciting, expensive dates for. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.760 And oh, that's good. That's good to know. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.320 Coming off the back of that date at that point 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.800 in time, how did you feel going back into the mansion? 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.280 Were you feeling really confident? Were you like this, I 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:45.480 could be the girl at the end here. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.200 Yeah, And after that date, I definitely felt that way. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:52.120 And that made my feelings a lot stronger towards him 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.320 as well, because like going into the business lounge, you 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.360 get this uninterrupted time that you're still conscious of the 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.320 other girls. You're feeling a little bit bare that you're 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.200 taking the time. I don't know, did you feel like 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.800 that when you were on it? Did you feel conscious 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.120 of the other girls the whole time? 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.400 We didn't have anything that was the equivalent to a 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.920 business class lounge. So it was always kind of up 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.600 to no girl got special treatment where she could get 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.520 uninterrupted time. So it's a little bit different. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.480 On our season, Yeah, we had a thing called the 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.800 Secret Guarded and we weren't able to take Matt there. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.160 Matt would choose one girl and take them there, so 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.360 it was a lot more evenly distributed. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:26.560 But I took you there a fair bit. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.800 Yeah. It was always like it's like, come on, let's 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.480 go back. Yeah, I come on. I think you took 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.080 every girl to the Like, every single chick on our 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.080 season got a time in the secret Garden. It wasn't 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.040 that secret. But knowing like from the very beginning that 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.800 you had this preferential treatment and that you did have 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.800 the business class lounge, how did you feel your relationship 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.760 was with the girls in the house. Did you feel 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.600 a little bit like there was a target on your back? 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:53.160 And I think almost seeing how many times you were 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.400 kind of thrown under the bus, it did feel like 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.280 maybe there was some animosity in the house with you 0:14:58.360 --> 0:14:59.120 and the other girls. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.880 Yeah, initially I thought that I didn't have a target 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.960 on my back. I felt like I had good relationships 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.680 with all of the girls because I'm a real girls girl, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.720 and I would never put a guy in front of girls. 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.320 And I would always want Jimmy to like me for me, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.480 not because I was fighting another girl to get him, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.840 if that makes sense. So I had a good relationship 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.840 with most of the girls in the house, in fact, 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:22.600 all of the girls in the house, I thought, And 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.080 it wasn't until the rumors surface that I realized that 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:26.640 I did have a target on my back. So I 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.680 think I was a little bit naive in that sense. 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.920 Did Steph reach out prior to that episode making it 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.680 on air to say, Hey, Jay, just so you know, 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.960 I kind of said this thing that you didn't want 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.720 to have kids, or did you find out for the 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:40.840 first time when it was on air. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.520 I found out for the first time on air, So 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.520 I had absolutely no idea that she did that about me. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.240 At first, Steph and I wasn't really friends with Steph. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.880 I didn't really know her that well, and like she 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.280 said a couple of things that I didn't quite agree with, 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.640 but as time went on and I got to know her, 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.400 we actually became really good friend. So when I saw 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.840 that on the episode, I was like, what the hell 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:06.480 shesed me. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.960 She's like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. She was 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.560 like I said that when I didn't really. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.240 Know you, and I was like, oh my god, You're 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:13.560 like you. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.680 Fucking started the power, you started all this. But also, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.360 I guess you also had quite a strenuous relationship with 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.160 Tani after the bush doorf date where everyone went camping, 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.560 and that's where things really unfolded, with the whole conversation 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.360 around whether or not you wanted to come second and 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.120 whether or not that conversation even took place. Have you 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.400 spoken to Tanni since? Have you guys been able to 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.320 reconcile anything, or did it really just end kind of 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:40.400 the way that we saw it on TV. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.960