1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kay and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: That is so fat Thank you. I am coming to 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: you live from Witness Protection after I was named and 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: shamed on jar Day Twinci's Instagram story. You know it's hilarious. 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: I went to bed early on Monday night, and it's 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: probably the first time in six months I've gone to 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: bed early, and my phone would not stop buzzing, and 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: I had about thirty messages from you guys. Yeah you 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: went missing for that. Look to be honest, if everyone 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: wants to know, I was on the toilet and I 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: was just about to go to bed, and I was 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: flipping through my Instagram story as you do, and I 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: was watching jar DA's and then my own name popped 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: up on her story and I was like, what the fuck? 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: I had to see refuge upstairs because I didn't want 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: my boyfriend to see what I was talking about because 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: he's often like, oh, what are you messaging the girls about? 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: And I just felt it was so pathetic that I 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: didn't even want to explain it. Well, the worst thing 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: was because I was in bed early, I couldn't even 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: play the video. So you guys screen grabbed them and 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: sent them to me, and I was like, what is 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: she saying? What's she talking about? Well, we are going 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: to go into that drama a little bit later in 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: the podcast, but let's kick this off with a social dilemma. 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: And we've had a listener send in what is an 31 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: acceptable response time via text before it becomes classified as 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: rude slash ignored. 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: Oh. 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Now, to be honest, I feel like this can be 35 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: broken up into several different parts because there's obviously text 36 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: messages related to relationships, and there's friendships, and then there's 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: like business ones. So I would assume this is about 38 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah, I feel like you're not really well, 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: it could be about a friend, because it doesn't annoy 40 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: you when friends don't reply. But I also think the 41 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: messages depend on what platform that they've been sent on, 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: because for me, messenger is something that I'm so slack with, 43 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Like my best friend will about for this, we've got 44 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: a group chat with our best friend Owen, and we're 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: all hopeless at getting back to each other, but no 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: one's offended. Now she has specified here that it is 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: a text, So I feel like it is about a guy, 48 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: because I mean, I don't know about you, but I 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: don't really send my friends text messages. No. I just 50 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: literally use Messenger, even for Reese now because we were 51 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: friends before we went out, so we kind of just 52 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: chatted on Messenger. See, I find that weird. I don't 53 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: know why. Is it because when a boy sends you 54 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: a text message it kind of seems special because they've 55 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, would have paid the 56 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: fifty cents to send it to you. I think it's 57 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: because I feel like you go from messenger to texts, 58 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: but there's a flow that happens. But now like now 59 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: that you guys obviously dating your boyfriend's long term, would 60 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: you communicate your messenger? 61 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: No? 62 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: Never, We only send houses to each other in real 63 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: estate dot com or stuff on Facebook marketpla. Well, maybe 64 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: people can share in the Facebook community, you know, how 65 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: they communicate with their boyfriend? Is it text? Is a messenger? 66 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: What about Snapchat? Because I feel like if you're snapchatting 67 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: your boyfriend when you're, you know, two years into a relationship. 68 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's the sort of medium. Look, 69 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: I'll send snapchats to reach during the day of our 70 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: dog or something like that, all things at work, but 71 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have like a full on conversation. I 72 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: won't message like, oh, what do you want for dinner? 73 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: On snapchat. Now we should probably delve into this question though, 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: because this is one close to my heart, because I 75 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: feel like in your early twenties, this is something you 76 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: do analyze a lot, because I asked because yeah, as 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: you said, I was someone that would always be waiting 78 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: on a guide to reply to a text message, and 79 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: it got to the point where, you know when they 80 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: take ages to reply, so then you take ages to reply. 81 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: And I remember I used to actually take my phone 82 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: upstairs and put it on the charger and then go 83 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: downstairs and leave it for a bit because you kind 84 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: of thought, all right, I don't want it physically near me, 85 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: because you're constantly thinking is that message going to come through? 86 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: The disappointment when you go back to your room and 87 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: there's no message, or you do you have one and 88 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: it's like from um or something like, do you know 89 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: what the worst used to be? When I used to 90 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: converse with guys over snapchat messenger? That sounds so stead 91 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: When I used to converse, well, it was my ex 92 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: boyfriend and you'd get it. You send a message and 93 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: then you open it up and it being read and 94 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: not replied. I remember waiting for a text message reply 95 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: and we were at the movies watching He's just not 96 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: that INtime. God, this makes sense. It's like those times 97 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: when you think there must have been like a technical 98 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: glitch on something because you know it must be the 99 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: reason they haven't replied to you. That's a thing though 100 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: with this day and age. Everyone's phones are like connected 101 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: to their hands, So if they're if they're at work, 102 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's okay, Like you know that they might 103 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: be in a meeting or something, But if it's taken 104 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: like five hours on a Saturday or Sunday, then that's 105 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: pretty shit. I also think that it depends what their 106 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: message says as well. I feel like if you haven't 107 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: replied to someone for a full day, there should be 108 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: some explanation, you know, an apology like sorry, I was 109 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: really busy, but there's But if it's just a message 110 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: back as if they're you know, not even acknowledging the time. 111 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty piss poor. But don't you think 112 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: that some people might do it purposely because sometimes there 113 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: is a bit of a thrill in waiting to receive 114 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: a message from someone. Yeah, there's a lot of game playing, 115 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I think with text messages, because you know, it might 116 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: actually mean someone cares more if they've purposely waited like 117 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: an allocated time. Because you know, if I really cared 118 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: and I'd waited a couple of hours to get the 119 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: text message, as I said before, I would then think, oh, well, 120 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I've got to wait the same amount of time to reply. 121 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: But then again then you think, oh, but this person's 122 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: available now, so do I reply straight away? Oh that's 123 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: the worst. That is actually the worst. When you've waited 124 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: for hours for response and you send one back straight away, 125 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: think oh, they're going to reply the same thing. They 126 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: just don't reply shit, never reply straightway. Should least give 127 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: it half an hour. If someone's waited like seven hours 128 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: to reply to you, don't reply instantly. Oh, I just 129 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: feel at the end of the day, though, if someone 130 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: wants to talk to you, they're gonna reply. Like, I 131 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: feel like I wish I took this advice when I 132 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: was single, Like, you know, simply, they're not just they're 133 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: not that into you if they're going to sit and 134 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: leave you on red all time. That being said, I 135 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: feel so sorry for this girl because it is one 136 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: of the most hurtful things to have someone not reply 137 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: to you. I think it also depends what age this 138 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: person is, because if they're a bit older and they've 139 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: got a really important job, or they've got kids, or 140 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: they're busy throughout the day, they might actually reply to 141 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: all their text messages at night. You touched it before, 142 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: k I feel like you know in your heart whether 143 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: that person is wanting to have a conversation with you 144 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: or not. And once you get into a good relationship, 145 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: you realize that that person, even if they're busy, they 146 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: will quickly shoot off a text message to you to 147 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: let you know. Oh, message you later. 148 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 149 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Being on the other side of it, isn't it the 150 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: worst when you get a text message that you just 151 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: don't want to reply to. I like, just let it 152 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: sit there, and it gives me anxiety looking at it. 153 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't necessarily like dating you know, this 154 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: is more like those awkward friends that contact you or 155 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: like business, you know, things that you should be following up. 156 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: I just can't mentally deal with it yet now that 157 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: you don't want people to see that you've seen if 158 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: it's on Instagram. That is the heartbreaking thing though, as 159 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: you were touching on with the you know, all these 160 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: different forms of technology. When you see that someone hasn't 161 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: replied to you, but you see them sitting on Facebook Messenger, 162 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: you're like, what the fuck? We had a few more 163 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: social dilemmas sent through, so we'll answer a couple more. So, 164 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: what do you guys think of this one? At a 165 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: social gathering, the men stick with the men and the 166 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: women stay with the women. Have you guys experienced this? 167 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: I have a lot with Dale and his friends, and 168 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: in some instances it can be really really good when 169 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: you do want to have a girly chat, But other 170 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: times it does seem weird that you're not really seeing 171 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: your partner at a social event. It seems very primary 172 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: school that where's segregated into genders. Yeah, I personally haven't 173 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: really experienced it that much with Brandon. I think that 174 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: when we hang out with his friends it's all very 175 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: together in a group conversation. But yeah, I just think 176 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: it's all a bit juvenile to just stick to whatever 177 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: your gender is. A lot of my friends are males, 178 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: and I love chatting with them. I think it's unfair 179 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: on your partner. Say, if you're all friends with a 180 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: group of girls and you bring them to something and 181 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: then all the guys don't know each other and they're 182 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: forced to fend for themselves in that situation. I think 183 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: everyone should kind of have that group chat because that's 184 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: what I enjoy most when you're at a function, if 185 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: it's say it's a smaller thing and everyone's kind of 186 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: together chatting, Whereas it does feel like there's a lot 187 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: of pressure on you if you're like the partner that's 188 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: brought along to hang out with the people that you 189 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: don't even know just because you're the same gender. Yeah, 190 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: I've found that before where I've been put into situations 191 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: where all the girls know each other and they've been 192 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: to school together, and then you kind of feel left 193 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: out and it is a bit awkward. Yeah, don't you 194 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: hate It's kind of like on the similar topic of this, 195 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: but when you get absolutely shafted just being left with 196 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: someone doesn't matter what gender. Like. I remember being in 197 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: a wedding and Brandon and I were getting a drink 198 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: at the bar and we turned around and the groom's 199 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: friends were there and they were chatting and we were 200 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: filming this wedding. So brand is like, sorry, I got 201 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: to pop back and do this completely left me there 202 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: with these people for twenty minutes. I have been that asshole, 203 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: and you know when you're doing it, and when you 204 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: do it, you're just like fuck you and you leave 205 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: and you give them the eyes and the person can't 206 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: do anything about it. But as you said, it's terrible 207 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: when the shoes on the other floor. But just reminds 208 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: me of a sein Felt episode where Jerry gets out 209 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: of this awkward dinner with oh sorry dad, Yeah, and 210 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: then George can't think of a lie at all. Yeah. 211 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: I love this social dilemma. It's how do you deal 212 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: with friends who are activists online but aren't in person's 213 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: real life. This is very twenty twenty one because we 214 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: are seeing a lot of performative activism online with influence. 215 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Then I suppose that trickles down to normal people. I 216 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: don't know if I would broach it with a friend though, 217 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: because I feel like only bad things can happen from 218 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: that conversation. I feel like you could bring it up 219 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: in a group discussion and say, oh, you know you 220 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: are talking a lot about this online. Is this something 221 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: that you really believe in? And the thing is, though, like, 222 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: while I think people's actions should match up with what 223 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: they say online, particularly for influencers, I do feel like 224 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: that if it's something positive that's being shared, should we 225 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: be having a go and making people awkward about doing O? God, well, 226 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: there's nothing worse when you see someone who's being fake online, though, 227 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: Like it would really irritate me. For instance, if I 228 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: had a friend who was, you know, all for animal 229 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: rights and then they're draping themselves infer that. It would 230 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: be totally different if the person was being completely hypocritical 231 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: in real life. But I mean, say someone shared a 232 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: change the date thing around Australia Day and they didn't 233 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: go to a protest, but you know, they still didn't celebrate. 234 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you would you know, have a goal 235 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: at them. However, if their actions really didn't marry up 236 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: to what they were saying and they were doing the 237 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: complete opposite, then yeah, I think you're within your rights 238 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: to say something. All right, Moving on, how long should 239 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: you stay at a birthday dinner drink situation? Oh, this 240 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: one's hard because there's been so many times I've been 241 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: at things and all I want to do is go home, 242 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: getting my comfortable clothes and watch TV. Well, I have 243 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: a different situation. So I was invited to a wedding 244 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: and it was my partner's friend's wedding, and it was 245 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: a really nice wedding and everyone then got up and 246 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: decided to leave it around nine point thirty, and I 247 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: thought this was incredibly rude, considering this couple had paid 248 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: for everyone's drinks, food, it was a really beautiful day, 249 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the hell, that's so rude. So 250 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: then we obviously stayed for as long as we possibly could. 251 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: But to me, that is just the height of rudeness. Yeah, 252 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: that's particularly brutal at a wedding. I mean, you know, 253 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: a casual birthday drinks is a little bit different. But 254 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: I do think you need to put yourself in other 255 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: people's shoes. And how would you feel if you've put 256 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: on something for your birthday and people haven't even stuck around? 257 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: I think it depends if they've paid for everything as well. 258 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: If they've put a bar tab on and you're just 259 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: getting there drinking and then leaving, I think that's really rude, 260 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: particularly if you're going out after. Like at this wedding, 261 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: it was quite clear that these guys had come to 262 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: get drunk, and then we're going and you know, going 263 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: to a night club. I'm like, that is so rude. 264 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, this is a wedding thing, 265 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: but I've heard of people drinking the bar to drink 266 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: more than what they paid for a present, which I 267 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: think is also incredibly rude. I mean, I don't drink alcohols. 268 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: I'd be really furious at my future wedding if everyone's 269 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: just getting pissed to make up for your presence, that's 270 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: what everyone's going to be doing. So because you and 271 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: Brannon don't drink, I feel like everyone's going to take 272 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: the piss when you guys get married, Why we won't 273 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: provide any alcohol and may those people at the Oh gosh, 274 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: that would be even worse. People would be so mad. 275 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Everyone would just be sitting around talking about how there 276 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: was no alcohol at your wedding. Well, back to the 277 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: birthday party, I do feel like this sort of thing 278 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: actually puts people off from holding any sort of celebration. 279 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: I know, when we turn twenty one, I was like thinking, shit, 280 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: do I even have a party because I'm scared no 281 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: one will turn up? And then there's nothing worse than 282 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: paying for everything and people piss off after twenty minutes. 283 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I do think if you're a real friend, 284 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: you stay till the end. Yeah, I think that's the 285 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: acceptable think. However, you're a fringe friend and there's still 286 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people there, I think you can sneak out. Yeah, 287 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: and especially if this person's left your birthday drinks comes 288 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: a bit. Do you think that you should say goodbye 289 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: to the person? Because personally I like to kind of 290 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: leave quietly and disappear. I like to do that, But 291 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Dale makes a point of saying goodbye to everybody. I'm like, 292 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: can we just sort of I think it's polite to 293 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: say goodbye again, it depends on how many people are there, Like, 294 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: if you're one of ten, yeah you've got to say goodbye. 295 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: But if it's like two hundred people, I mean not 296 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: that I've really been to a birthday party with two 297 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: hundred people. Well, lastly, this one I thought was quite interesting. 298 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: Someone wrote only wanting to pay for what I ordered 299 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: slash eight, but friends wanted to split the bill. I 300 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: feel like this hits us hard because coming from so 301 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: we came from a family where, like, you know, you 302 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: paid people back, like if I bought Sophie something, she 303 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: pays me back, like dad. Just to have this list 304 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: of things that maybe a bit extreme in that respect, 305 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: So I feel like it really does depend how you've 306 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: been brought up. But you know, if I go out 307 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: to dinner with Amy and Sophie, we're itemizing what we got, 308 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: Like it might sound stingy, but that's just the way 309 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: we were brought up. But not on a date. Like 310 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: on a date, you're not like wool so you had 311 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: half of those spring rolls. This question is about friends. 312 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: I just think like there is no worse feeling than 313 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: being absolutely shafted at the end of the meal when 314 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: you have like I went to this birthday party like 315 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: it was a fringe friend. Then we all had to 316 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: order off a particular very expensive menu. Anyway, it got 317 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: to the end of the night, I'd literally had one 318 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: soft drink. Everyone had been boozing it up. I had 319 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: to pay for their fucking drink. And that's the thing. 320 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: If it was if people were transparent at the start 321 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: and said, okay, everybody, we're just gonna split the bill, 322 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: then you'd be ordering heaps of drinks to make up 323 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: for it. But when you're screwed, you choose the cheapest 324 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: item on the menu and then you're then having to 325 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: pay a hundred bucks ahead. It's ridiculous. Oh there's nothing 326 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: worse than being screwed in it. I mean, obviously, if 327 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: you go out with your friends and you've all had 328 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: roughly the same thing, sure split it evenly. Like I 329 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: don't care a couple of dollars here and there, But 330 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: I do think when people are saving for houses, or 331 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: they're saving for stuff, saving up for holidays or whatever 332 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: it is, I do feel like people make decisions based 333 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: on that sort of thing. So it's not really fair 334 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: if you've had like a small meal and someone's ordered up. Yeah, 335 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: do you know what This is gonna make me sound 336 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: like an absolute stinge, but I feel like you guys 337 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: will relate. Has anyone been in that situation where you 338 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: have paid a little bit more and you're getting you know, 339 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: you're waiting to get the money back to compensate yourself, 340 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: and people were like, oh, let's just leave that to 341 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: tip everybody. What kind of that money because I put 342 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: in extra? Do you know what's funny though, Like sometimes 343 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: when you're so say the bill is itemized and you're 344 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: like all in the line to pay. It's so funny 345 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: because sometimes if you're the last person, you either get 346 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: royally screwed or yeah, you end up winning out of it. 347 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: Like you get there and they're like, oh, that's just 348 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: ten dollars, You're like, oh, thank you. Like when people, 349 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: like when you're out and people forget that they got 350 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: chips or forget that they got sides, and you're like, 351 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: come on, your boyfriend does that all the time. Well, 352 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: he's a big gilwa. I remember we went out to 353 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: a restaurant in Adelaide dough balls, and he was paying 354 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: for what he had and he was going to leave 355 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: you to pay for the entrain. I was like, didn't 356 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: you have extra dough balls. On the topic of relationships 357 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: and sharing money, my ex boyfriend was the biggest stings 358 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: that his brother actually made an app to split the bill, 359 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like I was the only person that 360 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: fucking ever used it, and it was always like fifty 361 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: to fifty, and he'd pig his face and eat way 362 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: more and drink more, and I'd have like the smallest 363 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: meal and be like, ah, so and so has sent you, 364 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, the request to split the bill, and I'm like, 365 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: fuck off, Like this is the most unromantic thing you 366 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: could ever do. I'm not going to let anyone talk 367 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: about me like I'm a piece of garbage. He's trying 368 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: to be a lad out there in front of all 369 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: the boys. I don't want a lad. I want a gentleman, 370 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: someone that's going to talk about me with a bit 371 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: of respect. Now, we teased it at the start. Let's 372 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: get into the Judey Tunci update. 373 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: Now. 374 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: Late on Monday night, jar Day took to her Instagram 375 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: story inviting her followers to unfollow her if they didn't 376 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: like her content now. The outburst came as Jaday revealed 377 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: she had been receiving negative feedback about posting too much 378 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: about her recent engagement. This is what she said. 379 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: Guys know that there are a lot of people who 380 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: don't know that you can unfollow people that you follow. 381 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: It's crazy, Honestly, you wouldn't believe how many people have 382 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: messaged me in the past complaining about something that they 383 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: have seen on my profile. 384 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: Eg. 385 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: Like me getting engaged for some reason is bothering people, 386 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: so they're like complaining about the fact that I'm posting 387 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: it too much. I just wanted to remind you guys, 388 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: or to tell you if you don't know that, you 389 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: can unfollow me. I didn't know if you knew that, 390 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: So just from the little PSA. Also, here's a really 391 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: fun one. There's actually people who don't even follow me 392 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: who are like going out of their way to watch 393 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: my content and then complain about it. You don't have 394 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: to come here. That's forcing you. I don't know if 395 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: you know that. So I just wanted to take the 396 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: time to let you know myself personally that you don't 397 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: have to be here. You can leave. So much for 398 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: popping by though. 399 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Now, while Jada claimed that this was a friendly public 400 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: service announcement, her tone was just incredibly condescending. She then 401 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: proceeded to share screenshots from our Facebook community discussing her 402 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: engagement plows, including people's full names. Now, this is where 403 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: I feel like she crossed the lawn. Yeah, well, she 404 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: seemed to have a bit of a change of heart, 405 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: because like ten minutes later the post was deleted. Now, 406 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: obviously it was extremely disheartening to see private comments in 407 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: our Facebook page publicly shared and those people's names put 408 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: out there to be trolled by Jarday's fans. However, for me, 409 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: I think the most frustrating thing was Jarday's complete hypocrisy 410 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: I've discussed on our episode. A couple of weeks ago. 411 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: On Australia Day, Celeb's Spellcheck called jar Day out for 412 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: her performative activism. So for those who didn't see it, 413 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: Celeb's Spellcheck posted jar Day's changed the date post and 414 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: then Juxta positioned it next to a Facebook comment she 415 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: wrote in twenty seventeen that said, the speculation that Aboriginals 416 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: weren't from here originally dot dot dot look it up 417 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: so rightfully. So these comments upset a lot of people. However, 418 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: instead of acknowledging the post and issuing an apology, Jarday 419 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: stayed quiet. So then fast forward two weeks later and 420 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: Jarda jumps on her Instagram story straight away to draw 421 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: attention to the fact that people were being mean to 422 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: her about her engagement. What did the comments actually say? 423 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Because I think that's important to let people know. Well, 424 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm actually the person that posted the thread that got 425 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: all this attention, and it was off the back of 426 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: our podcast on Friday where we discussed Jaraday's engagement and 427 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: the fact that she was posting so much about it. 428 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: So I posted the following video and said it was 429 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: a bit cringe on. 430 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: So by now most of you would know that I 431 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: am engaged. If you don't know, I am engaged. 432 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: But. 433 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: I wanted to say how strange it is that my 434 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 3: skin completely cleared up right before Locke proposed and my 435 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: natural nails. Do you guys remember about two weeks ago 436 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: I posted about the fact that my natural nails have 437 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: grown for the first time in my entire life. These 438 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: are my real nails. 439 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: They have never ever ever. 440 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: Grown like this. They always flake off and rip and break. 441 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: How did my body? No, Basically, not that big of 442 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: a deal. Like if my skin wasn't clear and my 443 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: nails were crap, I wouldn't care either way. But how odd? 444 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: It's just odd. So I was. 445 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: Wondering should I start like a wedding vlog series where 446 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: I vlog all of all of the wedding related stuff. 447 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: I can do that. I'm sorry, but I think you're 448 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: quite within your right to say that this video is cringe. 449 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: And can I point out that in our community, we 450 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: do not accept bullying at all, and the comments were 451 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: said in our community were purely commenting on her actions, 452 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: not her appearance, nothing like that at all. Everyone was 453 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: just saying they found it a bitea rota ott And 454 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: I feel like we should play some more of the 455 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: grabs of some of the stuff Jaday has been saying, 456 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: because it is quite comical, and she's also been laughing 457 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: at herself how much she's gone on about it. So 458 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: let's have a listen. 459 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: In terms with the fact that I'm just going to 460 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: be making engagement jokes for a long time, probably until 461 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: I'm married, and then when I'm married, I will be 462 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: making wife jokes, and then when my wife and I 463 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 3: have children, I will be making jokes about being a mother. 464 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: So it's not gonna stop. 465 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: But I'm really. 466 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: Sorry, I got you bab some for one time sometime 467 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: whatever is. 468 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: There, but haven't theres nothing. 469 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 3: It's a mosquito actually just had the nerve to sting 470 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: me on the forehead, like does it not know that 471 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm spoken for Okay, I'm going to start with those jokes. 472 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Do you know what I find funny the 473 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: fact that jar Day didn't come out on her platform 474 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: and say, oh my gosh, obviously people have got the 475 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: wrong end of the stick. This is clearly a joke. 476 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: You know, you didn't get my sense of humor, particularly 477 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: because her fiance LOCKI has been posting Instagram stories on 478 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: his own page when he's been paying around and saying, oh, 479 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get a divorce if you continue 480 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: acting like this. Yeah, that's the thing because for those 481 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: who actually don't know who Jarday is, she has a 482 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: second account where she posts the real jar Day toocy stuff, 483 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: and this is where she lets her comedic side come 484 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: to life. So a lot of people in our community 485 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: were confused whether she was posting on the wrong page 486 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: or whether she was actually being legitimate when it's these 487 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: comments about her engage, and it seems like maybe she 488 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: was because she took such great offense to the comments. Yeah, 489 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: exactly right. And I think, as I was saying before, 490 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: what frustrated me the most is that she's willing to 491 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: comment on something as petty as people criticizing her engagement post. However, 492 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: she thinks it's okay to completely ignore a whole minority 493 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: group and refuse to apologize over something that was extremely 494 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: hurtful that she posted. While the post was made in 495 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and it's not current, I think she has 496 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: an obligation as an influencer to apologize and acknowledge, Yes, 497 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: I did the wrong thing and I am learning and 498 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: moving forward from this exactly and as previously discussed in 499 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: this podcast, I think we're all so sick to death 500 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: of this toxic influencer culture where they deem any sort 501 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: of critique of their behavior as bullying. Oh my gosh, 502 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm so sick of it. And do you know what 503 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: really pissed me off about this whole thing is the 504 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: fact that you're claiming that, you know, myself and other 505 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: people in our Facebook community are being mean or bullying you. However, 506 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: you're happy to then put our names on your public 507 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: platform to over four hundred thousand people and basically send 508 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: your stands on us to bully us. Like how hypocritical? 509 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: Do you know what's hilarious though? Because I was expecting 510 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: an influx of messages to our dms and maybe people 511 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: abusing our Facebook group, but we actually got an influx 512 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: of people wanting to join and people following us because 513 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: they obviously agreed with what the comment said. And all 514 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: the comments were saying was, Hey, isn't it a bit 515 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: ott the way she's been going on? 516 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 517 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: Exactly right. And I mean, influencers are happy to reap 518 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: the benefits of putting their lives out there on Instagram. However, 519 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to people then commenting on these lifestyle choices, 520 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: they're so oversensitive about it. I know which they want 521 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: you to do, because all they do is put up 522 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: content about themselves. Well, it builds engagement, so you know, 523 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: is she doing it so her engagement grows because she 524 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: has been getting a lot of followers off the back 525 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: of it. But I'd like to point out I find 526 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: it really interesting. I feel like influencers think that, oh wow, 527 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: I've got four hundred and thirty three thousand followers. Every 528 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: single one of those people must really like me, They 529 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: must be stands to me. However, I feel like a 530 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: huge portion of those people actually are only there to 531 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 1: kind of have a fly in the wall and be like, oh, 532 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: who is this person? Or to follow stuff and be 533 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: like oh that's cringe. Well, because other people follow them, 534 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: so they want to keep up today and see what 535 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: it's all about. Thing I find really disappointing is a 536 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: community has been such a safe space of light minded people. 537 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: We can just you know, discuss influencer culture and all 538 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: keep it pretty lighthearted. So it was really disappointing to 539 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: see that someone had screenshot images of the community and 540 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: that of course breaks our guidelines. So that person has 541 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: been removed. Yeah, I'm glad that that person's been removed. 542 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: It really was someone that only joined our community very briefly, 543 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: and it seems like they have been causing trouble on 544 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: other people's community. So I'm glad that that person, you know, 545 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: isn't is no longer in the community and we can 546 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: get on with making it a safe place to discuss 547 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: what we want to talk about. Well, I think Meka 548 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: and Pastello had the call of the century in the group. 549 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: She said that our group only at the moment, has 550 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: one point nine thousand followers in it or members in it, 551 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: and she said she's got more enemies in that, So 552 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: how dare someone come in and screenshots such a small communities? 553 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: It felt very violating as well, yeah, like someone was 554 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: reading through your private messages. Oh that's how I felt 555 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: on Monday night when I was sitting on the toilet 556 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: and saw the message. 557 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: Jesus crist Simon, the fuck you've done it. 558 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: You've been eating cat food again? Oh God, you've left 559 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: skids down the bolt soon Carli, I didn't either went 560 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: in for a piffs. God, I can say STI. Now 561 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: moving on to Danny Mansuti. She's taken a bit of 562 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: a hiatus off Instagram. So on Thursday, the fourth of February, 563 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: she posted a sort of thread of Instagram stories that 564 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: were very detailed and funny enough. She has kind of 565 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: answered a lot of the questions that we brought up 566 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: on the podcast, which meant a lot of people sent 567 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: us her stories and like, wow, she must have had 568 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: a listen to what you guys said, which was crazy. 569 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: And this comes off the back of us talking about 570 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: her a few weeks ago about how she is trying 571 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: to return back to Australia during the pandemic. We also 572 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: touch on a number of her controversy so it appears 573 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: that she may have listened to the podcast and this 574 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: is you know, a direct response to the podcast. Well, 575 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: she addressed every single point that we had raised, and 576 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: it was really interesting to hear it from her perspective, 577 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: and she did admit fault. Yeah, I think I was 578 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: quite impressed with her response. I mean, there were a 579 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: few things that were a bit like question marks over 580 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: in regards to when she spoke about her money. So 581 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: in the podcast, we discussed how she said she had 582 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: spent all her savings, which were fifteen grand on the 583 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: trip over to Australia to have that trip canceled, and 584 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: she actually explained that yes, that was fifteen grand in 585 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: her Australian savings account, but she also has a British 586 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: savings account. She also spoke about the fact that yes, 587 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: she did get breast in plants during the lockdown. However 588 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: it was the surgery was done in a specific plastic 589 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: surgeon's office, so she wasn't taking COVID better way. So, 590 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, some of them are a little bit iffy 591 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: in terms of yeah, while that might have been within 592 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: the rules, it's sort of a little bit tone deaf 593 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: and not the best thing to be getting surgery. However, 594 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: I did really feel for her when she spoke about 595 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: her mental health issues. She did put a trigger warning 596 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: on there for suicide, which I think really touched a 597 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: nerve with a lot of people, because, as we discussed 598 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: in the podcast, she is a young girl that has 599 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: shared her life on Instagram and YouTube and clearly is 600 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: not coping with the feedback she's received from people, and 601 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: maybe a break is going to do her the world 602 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: of good. To be completely honest, when these sort of 603 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: messages pop up and they are in reference to your podcast, 604 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: it does make you feel a little bit unsettled because 605 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: it makes you reflect on what you did say during 606 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: the podcast and whether you tackled the topic in the 607 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: right way. And I suppose as our podcast grows, is 608 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: going to get to a point where the people we 609 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: speak about do listen and it does hold weight of 610 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: course what we're saying. So I think that on reflection, 611 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: I think that we tackled it in the right way, 612 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: and you know, I stand by what we said. I 613 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: just hope that she is getting the help that she needs. 614 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: And I think, as Amy touched on, it is good 615 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: that she has stepped offline for a couple of weeks 616 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: to just reflect on her life. Yeah, and when I 617 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: saw her posts, my heart did sink a little bit 618 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: because when an anyone ever talks about that their mental 619 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: health has suffered. Of course, all the things aside, like 620 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: you just want that person to be okay. Yeah, And 621 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: I think that that's why we do try and be 622 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: responsible where we do discuss things. Obviously we want to 623 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: keep it entertaining and lighthearted, but you know, you do 624 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: have to keep these things in consideration. And at the 625 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: same time, everything's not black and white. Just because we 626 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: talk about an influencer and their behavior, it doesn't mean 627 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: we hate this person. Yeah, it's just I think talk 628 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: about their actions, not the person, and that's what we've 629 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: always tried to do with the topics that we discuss. 630 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: I do think it must be quite a shock for 631 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: some influencers to actually listen to a podcast that is 632 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: discus discussing their actions, because I feel like they're so 633 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: used to people only praising them and labeling everybody who 634 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: comments in a different way as a troll. Oh, it 635 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: would be really confronting, and I suppose because that attention 636 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: is usually left to big celebrities. However, these people need 637 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: to remember, you're earning a lot of money, You're getting 638 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: a lot of followers like you potentially are more impactful 639 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: on people's lives than you know, Jennifer Aniston is so 640 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: and you're putting your life out there for others to 641 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: comment on. Exactly right. Well, moving on to a bit 642 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: of a lighter subject to finish the influence at rap 643 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed watching Anastasia kings North's apartment to it 644 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: and one thing that really stood out to me was 645 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: the fact that when she was taking the viewers through 646 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: her kitchen, she has a whole massive draw full of 647 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: chips or crisps as she would say. Yeah, she said, 648 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: it was like having her own sort of candy bar 649 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 1: at the movies. You've got your role mcdonaldchie rich. I 650 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: was forcing brown And to watch this vlog with me 651 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: and he was in awe of how many chips were 652 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: in this bloody draw. Do you know what's hilarious? So 653 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: I feel like there's such a different stance in the 654 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: UK as in Australia. It seems to be so popular 655 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: for influences to be like, oh, I'm eating so healthy, 656 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: I had a protein ball, I watched the movies and 657 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: in England they're just like, look at my drawer full 658 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: of chips. Yeah, exactly right. It kind of reminded me 659 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: of when we first moved out of home, because our 660 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: mom is a dental therapist and she did not allow 661 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: us to have any sugar or anything bad. So she 662 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: actually so when we had chips in the house, she 663 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: would hide them in our shed, so if you really 664 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: wanted to get them, you'd have to like go outside 665 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: and go down. You know, they went just in the draw. 666 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: They were not just in the draw easily accessible. So 667 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: when we moved out, I know Sophie had a very 668 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: unhealthy relationship with Natella, so much so that she would 669 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I might have shamed you on the 670 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: podcast before, but for new listeners, So if you would 671 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: come home and eat Natella with a spoon and then 672 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: throw the spoons under her bed, that's the thing. I 673 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: actually can't trust myself with Natella anymore, so I just 674 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: don't allow myself to buy it. But to be fair, 675 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't think her mum Julie, has been depriving her 676 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: of chocolate or chips every time. They're like, oh, we 677 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: just went to Tescos and I bought this for tonight 678 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: and it's like five chocolate bars for Atticus. That whole 679 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: drawer just made me feel greasy looking at it. Oh, 680 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: you've had a binge on chips. I don't you know 681 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: what though, I love Anastasia and I do love that 682 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: she's done that her apartment always hilariously because it seems 683 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: like every trend has just been thrown in a house. 684 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: Is it just me? I bloody hate those dry to flowers. 685 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: I find them so ugly. I thought her house looked 686 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: quite cool. I did love the the bum candles that 687 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: were around because it was every room. Yeah. Literally, But 688 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: going back to the food, it was funny because she 689 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: also did a bit of a fridge to it. Brand 690 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: was like, that's the unhealthiest fridge I've ever seen. It 691 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: was literally just coke cans and a packet of mince. 692 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: Talking about coke cans again, in our Facebook community, it 693 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: was brought up that coke cans and drinking cans of 694 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: drink is not fancy. So I was completely schooled in 695 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: there because I thought it was a fancy thing. But 696 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: apparently everyone doesn't. No, No, it's not that it's not 697 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: a fancy thing. I think everyone in our Facebook community 698 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: is fancy. Brahas I do actually buy individual glass bottles 699 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: of kom Butcher that I put in the fridge, and 700 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: I've just found that nextpert due this their version of 701 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: soft drink that doesn't have a spardamine and all those crap, 702 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: all that crap in it in cans, and I'm so 703 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: excited because it does taste better in a can soft drink. 704 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: You're trying to get clout now in the community. Actually, 705 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: I do have fancy can. I've got to say, though, 706 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: if I'm at a restaurant and there's a choice between 707 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: a can and a glass bottle of Coke zero, I'll 708 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: always go the glass bottle. I never like you know, 709 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: when actually used to have the vending machines with the 710 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: cans that came out, I never liked it from then. 711 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: I'd prefer to pour into a glass of ice. It 712 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: tastes way better in the bottle. As you say, there's 713 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: something about the taste of it in the bottle. It 714 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: has to be really cold in a can. I think, 715 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: I think maybe you've had some cans that haven't been 716 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: very good. No, it needs ice and in glass. My hout, 717 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: this is very expensive. 718 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: Fair It is. 719 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: Fucking frisholt because you've only got straightness in here, so 720 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: you better pay. You can pay for me to have 721 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: a new set of extensions, the fucking hairs Frisholt. Now 722 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: let's go into snog marry avoid, and we are having 723 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: a giggle about this ingestion. Someone has sent us in 724 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: saying would you rather snog marry avoid? Sarah's Day Sharnie 725 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Grimmond Sammy Robinson. I feel like we have to go 726 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: to so fast because she has been accused by a 727 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: lot of people as being Sarah's Day's number one fair. 728 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: She did by the Sunny App and regrets that heavily. 729 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people have left messages 730 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: about you in our reviews saying that she's the one 731 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: that likes it. Well, I love that, Sophie said. I 732 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: told Savie not to get the Sunny App, and then 733 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: like a week after having it, She's like, I don't 734 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: think I should know it. I was like, no, shit, 735 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: it's got a few good recipes, but I just like, gosh, no, 736 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: there doesn't anyway. Oh God. This one's really hard because 737 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: I think, as I've admitted, i have a bit of 738 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: a girl crush on Sammy Robinson. So I'm kind of 739 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: weighing up whether I would marry her or just pash her. 740 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: So which one and then Shanny. Like with Shanny, you know, 741 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: I could be like Jonathan Sour just try and get 742 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: all these followers of clout chasing. So it's a really 743 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: difficult one. And as you said, apparently I'm Sarah's Day's 744 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: biggest fan. So you bully don't like her cooking, so 745 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: maybe not she probably wouldn't you wouldn't want her meals. Yeah, 746 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: it's really hard because it's a hard one because I'm 747 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: just gonna cop fucking heat for this. Who cares? Say 748 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: what you think? Oh, it's called out spoken, be outspoken. 749 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: I reckon. 750 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: I would actually have to marry Sammy Robinson because one 751 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: she's incredibly beautiful and two, like her family are fucking wealthy, 752 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: like you know that Wholiday how she has looks pretty 753 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: and so Sophie's just going for coin and for appearance. 754 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: She's always eating like yummy food, like the mon teasers 755 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: and the bread. She seems like a good time, Like, 756 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: she seems like someone I could actually hang out. No, 757 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: you couldn't marry her because she seems like a bit 758 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: of a slob around the house, but I am as well. 759 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: But that No, but you can't both be slobs because 760 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: otherwise you'd have an awful I'm tiny, you know. Well, 761 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: I'd be quite intimidated by her appearance as well, like 762 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: she's just you know, when you feel like the loser 763 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: out of that to just be the ugly boyfriend, that's 764 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: like walking she's mine. They're all good looking girls, oh 765 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: they are anyway, So okay, i'd have to say I'll 766 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: marry Sammy Robinson. It's really it's a really hard one. 767 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: I think that I just don't know. I don't really 768 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: want to pash either of them, to be completely honest, 769 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: you have to pick. I'm going to say I would 770 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: pash Sarah's day just for the controversy of it. I 771 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: have to avoid. I'd have to avoid Shani Wow. Okay, 772 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: but you know, like I do love Shares as well. 773 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: So this is why it's a very difficult one. She'd 774 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: wrote you as well, Shania. Oh see for me, I 775 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: think I'd have to avoid Sarah's Day because I don't 776 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: think I would be up for the six am you know, 777 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: wake ups to go to the gym. I feel like 778 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of pressure to be working out 779 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: and eating healthy. I think she's very high maintenance and 780 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't really see her as a sexual being, like, 781 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, she just doesn't give off that vibe 782 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: whereas you know it's shiny and why I didn't know. 783 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm being honest. Go on, Kate, continue, I'm just being honest. 784 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: I probably look so tossing up between Shanny and Sammy. 785 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: Oh that's tough. I mean, Shanny's got to shoot together 786 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: with her life coach. I think I might marry Shany 787 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: and pash Sammy Robinson. Sammy Robinson, as Amy SAIDs a 788 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: bit of a slom, like you know, it's got a 789 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: licraidive businesses as well for me as well. It's all 790 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: you wait, wait, whit aren't you passing her? Yeah, we'd 791 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: have to bend down. How tall is your boyfriend? 792 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: Like? 793 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: Probably similar? 794 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 2: Hot? 795 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: True, she'd been okay, the reasons like six foot what Sammy, 796 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: She's around the same, not six anyway, lady. So look 797 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: at his basketball profile on Google. Oh those are always incorrect. 798 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: There is like two he's five nine, not that it 799 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: really matters. Not he's not five nine, he's like five 800 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: eleven if anything. Oh wait, I thought five none was 801 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: the highest and you oh my god. 802 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: No. 803 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: Anyway, Okay, I I'm gonna say i'd have to pash Sammy. 804 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't marry Sarah's day though, because I feel like 805 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: she's copying me. No, but I feel like she'd break 806 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: my balls. That's what I feel like. I feel like, 807 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't want to eat healthy all the time, 808 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: and so they do have Skittles and red balls a 809 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 1: bit anyway, And so then i'd have to marry Shani. Yeah, 810 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: and she's she'd be fun to hang out with her. Yeah, 811 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: I reckon, she'd be so fun. And then you get 812 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: to hang out with her dog Peanut and Dyindy, is 813 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: it too late to change mine? I love your passions. 814 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: Your passion, says he. We'll be in the same which 815 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: she's been outed as the number one series day fan 816 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: on this podcast because we actually look quite similarly. Big 817 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: way keep little girl. Yeah, you'd be better high wise. Yeah, 818 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: you guys getting married and one day if we do 819 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: get married, well, anyway, moving on to recommendations. And I 820 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: have been binge watching the old series of The Hills. 821 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm up to like series four, and it has been amazing. 822 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: It's I just feel like where has the time gone. 823 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: He's pointed out to me the other night that it's 824 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: been like sixteen years since it filmed, and it made 825 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: me feel physically ill because I remember watching the second 826 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: series being at UNI and just loving everything that Lauren 827 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: Conrand was wearing, copying the blacknail polish, copying the name rings. Kay, 828 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't point out our age because in our 829 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: reviews we keep being good. He's a bitter old old 830 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: I love it. We're like thirty one. Well on that, 831 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to Rebut to the person that said, oh, 832 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: you're ten years older than the people you're talking about, well, 833 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: I got idd on the weekend, So stick it up 834 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: your pipe and smoke it you. That's funny. I'm about 835 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: this own podcast. So he's like, you can't say that. 836 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: My recommendation has to be the latest episode of The 837 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: Wild Ones with Nicky and Lucy. They had an episode 838 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,959 Speaker 1: with Courtney Mangan who was a friend of the show. 839 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: Please don't ruin it because I'm not going to ruin 840 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: that segment on the way home because Amy has pumped 841 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: this up. Courtney shares a really bad date experience. Yeah, 842 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Courtney, if you're listening, I feel for you. 843 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: That was an amazing story. People have to go check 844 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: it out. I just was like, my I was in 845 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: awe listening to this story. I was shocked. I was shook. 846 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: My recommendation is a bit more of a basic one. 847 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to record always no, but it's a food one. 848 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 1: So the sunny well I've gotten shut up. No, it's 849 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: it's completely opposite of the sunny app. This is a 850 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: lolly recommendation. It is those have you guys seen them? 851 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: They're white chocolate raspberries, They're Allan's. These things are completely 852 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: ruining my sugar. But I don't like I buy them 853 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: all the time. It's terrible. I don't like white chocolate. No, 854 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: I usually I used to not like it. But these 855 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: are amazing. Aren't you meant to be eating healthy? Yes? 856 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: I am, And I said. I keep seeing these on 857 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: sale and I'm like, oh, just one more time, Sophie, 858 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: you actually had you'd let me have one before one 859 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: of the komb Butcher lollies, which don't taste anything like 860 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: kom butcher, but apparently they've got probotics in the I 861 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: only bought these for the podcast. I was going to 862 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: put up a picture of them, but I ate them 863 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: before before I got this sounds like the Lollihouse. I 864 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: opened up Sophie's pantry before and I'm like, this is 865 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: like the fun pandry. We don't have all these things 866 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: at home. Anyway. Have you tried these kom Butcher lots? 867 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: They literally do not taste like kom Butcher. They were 868 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: quite nice, they were nice, but they didn't taste anything 869 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: like the kind of had a liquidity center, but like, 870 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: it didn't taste like kom Butcher. Was probably which is 871 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: probably good for a lot of people, you know who 872 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: might not like kom Butcher. Well, I hate That's what 873 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: we've got time for. I hope everyone has an amazing 874 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: weekend and we look forward to being in your ears 875 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: on Monday morning. 876 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: Now. 877 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: Despite all the drama that we've discussed, if you do 878 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: want to join our Facebook community, we are out at 879 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: outspoken the podcast community. I promise you the troublemakers have 880 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: been banned. It's a good old time in there, nuts, 881 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: It's really good in there. 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