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Speaker 1: the show. Hello, welcome to Melbourne again. Oh there you

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Speaker 1: go to our studio. See you get in there. You're

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Speaker 1: too You just you didn't want to do the intro

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Speaker 2: Face of the sun. It's about a thousand degrees in here.

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Speaker 1: It is really hot.

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Speaker 2: We asked. I blame my televisions and pictures of me.

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Speaker 1: And you ladies. Dinner's ready. There's a reason why there's

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Speaker 1: Have you been Yeah, it's just you know, busy as

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Speaker 1: usual as your NFT is going. Ah has your bitcoin

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Speaker 1: stock because it's like my figure, it's constantly shredding. Yeah, ah,

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, it's infected's shredding so much, it's very gaunt.

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Speaker 1: The moment just before when I was walking to the studio,

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Speaker 1: Paul was actually naked and he was flexing his arms

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Speaker 1: and he said, somebody call a vet. These swans are sick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to the show. It's been a big sort

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Speaker 2: interesting stuff in car news.

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Speaker 1: I reckon, this is the last time I get you

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Speaker 1: some very interesting stuff on cars.

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Speaker 2: I promise Gordy won't say anything about BYD or any

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, how dare you?

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Speaker 2: Do?

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Speaker 1: You know what that was? I reckon? Half the point

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Speaker 1: car journals, because mate, they're all puppets of the bloody

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Speaker 1: car industry except Gordy. No no, no, no, no, all

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about like Paul's like, like the mates that

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 1: They've got like a terrible like they're they're well divorced,

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Speaker 2: And they're sounding a lot like me.

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Speaker 1: They're failed engineers and their average journalists tell them. Yeah. Anyway, Actually,

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Speaker 1: speaking of which, Paul said, I've got an opinion piece

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Speaker 1: In about twelve minutes, we've got an opinion piece by Paul.

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Speaker 2: Well, what are we starting with? Are we're starting with

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Speaker 1: Well we started with the car review last time, but

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Speaker 1: interesting because Sony and and Honda are kind of doing

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's called the Sony Honda Mobility Ink joint Venture.

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Speaker 2: But my colleague Scott came up with a great name

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Speaker 2: Sony and Honda joined together.

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Speaker 1: We got it, We got the gear.

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Speaker 2: So it's kicking off in twenty twenty five with mobility services.

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Speaker 2: It's so basically, Sony first came up with its automotive

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited for it.

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Speaker 2: The coverage wasn't on fire, it was literally the car.

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Speaker 2: So this car has been delayed by eighteen months. They

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Speaker 1: This sounds like a bloody Remember when Tesla like cracked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but see exactly, this is like that, but just fire.

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Speaker 2: Is this is a car that's designed to be driven

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Speaker 2: So I went. Actually just a fun inside story. I

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Speaker 2: Now I wasn't gonna do anything with it, But I'm like,

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Speaker 1: And then this is like Princess Dane's photos in the tunnel,

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Speaker 1: and then we were told got the incriminating evidence.

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Speaker 2: We were told after to not publish anything on what

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Speaker 2: there was no information on this investigation. They were hoping

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Speaker 1: But so, if I look deep enough, I'll find this vision.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And then yeah, basically, it was

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Speaker 2: Hopefully they forget about that time the mid car burnt

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Speaker 1: People will forget about that time he was in that

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Speaker 2: No? I've got my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So a serious one.

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Speaker 1: Hang on, before we do this, would you like theme music?

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Speaker 2: Who all these people? I've never heard you?

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Speaker 1: You're nearly forty, but you're going on seventy five years old?

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Speaker 2: What about I just do my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get No, I'm going to get a

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now this is serious. So a police officer in

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Speaker 1: What was his rank again? Did you say?

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Speaker 2: Leading senior constable?

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Speaker 1: Constable right? Got it?

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Speaker 2: And he is now facing ten years jail.

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Speaker 1: Now, my jail's not all. He's facing pretty well, but

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Speaker 2: My opinion here is that it is okay for this

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Speaker 2: So here's my reasoning behind that. I spoke with a

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, So my thought here is I spoke with

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Speaker 2: You're not allowed to do that or he's facing potential

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Speaker 1: Now, our roads aren't really built for that in what way? Well,

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Speaker 2: Well that's if the majority of traffic was traveling at

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Speaker 2: Or do I need to chase this criminal any faster

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Speaker 1: How fast was he going?

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Speaker 2: Peak speed was two hundred and thirty. He overtook seventy

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Speaker 1: So I don't understand what the crime is. Did he

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Speaker 2: No, he didn't, So the crime is he's being charged

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Speaker 2: that he overtook. Now, he obviously didn't drive past people

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Speaker 2: But in Australia we've been indoctrinated with this whole thing

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Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to see the prosecutor's point of view

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Speaker 2: So basically it's a road that has a speed limit

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Speaker 1: I mean I think it wouldn't look It wouldn't surprise

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: If you go to war, for instance, if you're in

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Speaker 1: There's certain things you can and can't do. Fifty years

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Speaker 2: I get that problem is if you set a speed

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 2: It depends on the license. So if you're just a

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Speaker 2: you know, it could just have issues longer term. You know,

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Speaker 1: And look, I think that's also one scenario though, you

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Speaker 2: See that's fine, and they have discretion. In fact, the

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Speaker 2: So I think there are some instances where they don't.

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Speaker 1: There needs to be too. Yeah, absolutely needs to be.

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Speaker 2: But in this instance, I just wonder whether it's appropriate

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Speaker 1: Look, I agree, to be honest, I think this will

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Speaker 2: On the way to the studio today, we did have

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Speaker 1: Without it, well's to bring it up and how like

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's bullshit. It can't be that much

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Speaker 1: He could have he could have had diarrhea. By the way,

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Speaker 1: diary is a great way to get out of a

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm saying, yeah, So let us know your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: there needs to be, what is the limit and why

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Speaker 1: Case you joined us. That's Paul's opinion. What really grinds

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Speaker 1: we go. Let's do the car review. Let's do the

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Speaker 1: I thirty n Sedan. Are we ready for the review?

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Speaker 1: This is where you say yes, yes, no, stop with

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Speaker 1: you yes. The Hyundai I thirty in Sudan. Pricing starts

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Speaker 1: at forty nine thousand dollars the yon Day I thirty

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Speaker 1: in Sedan. As our sexy little New Zealand voice lady

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Speaker 1: just said forty nine k before on road. I think

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Speaker 1: it's roughly about fifty five on road for this one

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Speaker 1: manual or eight speed alto. I've been waiting for this

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Speaker 1: car for a long time. I've been hassling and hassling,

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Speaker 1: and guess what, I didn't actually get it from yon Day,

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Speaker 1: Oh where did you get it? I want to give

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Speaker 1: a shout out, a big shout out to yon Day

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Speaker 1: Heartland Blacktown for lending me this car. It's actually for sale.

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Speaker 1: It's done about two thousand k's and it's roughly about

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Speaker 1: fifty eight dollars drive away, guys. Is a great deal.

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Speaker 1: But look, the I think the fleet of press cars,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been asking and asking and asking,

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Speaker 1: and it was always like they did some end performance

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Speaker 1: festival yep, And apparently a lot of the cars were

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Speaker 1: driven pretty hard during this thing and needed repair. That

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Speaker 1: was that's what I was told. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get one in sooner rather than later. So yeah, these

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Speaker 1: guys came to the party. So big thank you to

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Speaker 1: Young Day Heartland Blacktown for that. And yeah, look, you

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Speaker 1: told me once that you can pretty much predict what

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Speaker 1: a car's like before you drive it. Did you predict

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Speaker 1: what this car is going to be like before you

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Speaker 1: drove it?

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Speaker 2: Look, it'll be just like the I thirty en hatch.

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Speaker 2: And knowing the I thirty en hatch, it's firm, it

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Speaker 2: sounds good. The sedan is probably going to work better

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Speaker 2: for traction because it has more weight to it and

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Speaker 2: more overhang at the rear. What else can I predict

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Speaker 2: about it?

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Speaker 1: Actually?

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Speaker 2: Quite like I drove the I thirty Sedan end Line,

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Speaker 2: which is okay, low fat version, and I thought that

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Speaker 2: was pretty good, So I expect this to be good

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Speaker 2: as well. And I think at that price it's actually

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Speaker 2: pretty good value for money.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you're driven this. No, oh, you haven't driven it.

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Speaker 1: This is another car I've driven and you haven't.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Oh, well there you go. It's two on the board

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Speaker 1: for me, yes, and about three hundred for year.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Look, I got to say, I was genuinely excited about

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Speaker 1: this car, and I think it is out of all

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Speaker 1: the end cars, the ConA end, the I thirty n

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Speaker 1: this is definitely the sweet spot. This is definitely the

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Speaker 1: pick of the bunch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it rides great. It's a fun little car. I

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Speaker 1: guess handles really good. Suspension is definitely on the firmer side.

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Speaker 1: The good thing is if you're looking for a car

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Speaker 1: that's kind of you can daily and also track. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of cars out there that like, for instance,

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Speaker 1: when we did the I twenty end, to me, that

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Speaker 1: wasn't a daily It's too much of a pain in

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Speaker 1: the ass that gearbox and if you want to if

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Speaker 1: you want to do the gearbox every day, and just

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Speaker 1: grow up. Just grow up. You look like a dick

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Speaker 1: ed No, if that's what you want to do in

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Speaker 1: busy bumper to bumper traffic, fine, but the eight speed

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Speaker 1: auto on this was brilliant limited slip diff you can

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Speaker 1: really give it some kick. What I will say is

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Speaker 1: N Mode competitor normal Mode. It's miles apart exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you can.

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Speaker 2: That's what I actually like. You can tell the difference.

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Speaker 2: There's very It's not like some cars they have normal

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Speaker 2: sport sport plus race track blah blah blah. It's just

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Speaker 2: like N Mode is just everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like everything in that in line or sorry,

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Speaker 1: the N series. You can dick around with it. You

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Speaker 1: can customize it, you can do launch control on it.

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Speaker 1: It's got all the track info on it, and it's all.

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Speaker 2: Come from Albert Bimman, who used to be the boss

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Speaker 2: of BMW'SM division. He was poached by Hyundai and he's

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Speaker 2: created all this stuff, and yeah, they're all the better

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Speaker 2: for it. He created my Stinger, yes he did, and

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Speaker 2: that thing's good as well. So yeah, I think that

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Speaker 2: I think that is really a fun car. And like

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Speaker 2: you said, it is the sweet spot because the ConA

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Speaker 2: feels a bit too much. It's a bit too much

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Speaker 2: like a tall hot hatch for the ENA's just a

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Speaker 2: hatch this is.

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Speaker 1: That's more. I think the ConA ends more more fun

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Speaker 1: kind of daily whereas this is definitely a car you

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Speaker 1: can track. It sort of reminded me a lot of

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Speaker 1: the what was it the Bloody three? Sorry, I'm just

531
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Speaker 1: I'm just getting something in my ear. What's that? Yes,

532
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Speaker 1: shoot to kill making disappear reminded me of like the

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Speaker 1: Type R.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a new one of those coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That thing very much sacrificed all sorts of noisiness for

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Speaker 2: just track weapons. That thing was bloody crazy.

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Speaker 1: It looked like a kid had built it from.

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Speaker 2: Lego, Yes exactly. But look I'm no adult supervision.

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Speaker 1: No, no, that's right, but look this is I think this

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Speaker 1: is a great car. It's certainly fun. It sounds good

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, oh my god, the sound is incredible. It's

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Speaker 1: one of the best sounding cars out there really in

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Speaker 1: terms of like price point and what you're getting bang

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Speaker 1: for buck and stuff like that, I think it's really

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Speaker 1: well set up. Two disappointments I have. It does feel

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Speaker 1: a little bit tinny in terms of like when you

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Speaker 1: jump in like a mini, like a JCW Mini. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's got like a very even though it's built I

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Speaker 1: guess by BMW people. The Mini to me always felt

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Speaker 1: a bit sort of and I loved them. I had one.

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Speaker 1: Always felt a bit sort of yeah just thin, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. But this is and this is

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Speaker 1: in that same sort of realm. Definitely a car you

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Speaker 1: can throw about. One big disappointment I have with the interior.

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Speaker 1: It kind of feels a little bit and I know

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Speaker 1: you're paying what fifty five drive away, you're pretty much

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Speaker 1: paying basically, you're paying for tech and a pretty cool

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Speaker 1: little engine. The inside is plasticky and one.

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Speaker 2: Thing super plasticky I didn't notice that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one thing they did they didn't put in

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Speaker 1: this which was such a big disappointment, was the little

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Speaker 1: en logo in the overseas models like the America American

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Speaker 1: Model and whatnot lights up.

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Speaker 2: That's cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like would with an inline, Yeah yeah, but this

567
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Speaker 1: is just a different seat and it's kind of embroidered in.

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Speaker 1: It's just not as fun. But yeah, look it's a

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Speaker 1: great car for fifty five k effectively drive away. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's a fun little boy racer. It's the kind

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Speaker 1: of car you would have wanted in your late twenties. Yes,

572
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: mucking around and all sorts. Definitely, I would definitely speck

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Speaker 1: this out with the sun roof and go extra on

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Speaker 1: the paint. I'm not a big look that pale blue paint.

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Speaker 2: That hasn't dated that well.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. Yeah, yeah, so I would definitely

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Speaker 1: shell out. And I think that.

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Speaker 2: Pale on the sedan it just doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: No, the pale blue paint looks has had its time,

580
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Speaker 1: but I think the whole car looks better if you

581
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Speaker 1: shell out for the metallic, which is I think the red.

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Speaker 1: What did I have? No, I had like I had

583
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Speaker 1: a ceramic gray similar to my own car.

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Speaker 2: No, it's like a Nato grace.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: about five hundred bucks. I think the sunroof is about

587
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: two grand. Ye, definitely worth shelling out for. And yeah,

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00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: definitely if you look, if you can get one like

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00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: this one, it's on the sale right now. Otherwise, I

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Speaker 1: think if you were to walk into a dealership and

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Speaker 1: try and buy one brand new, it's a little bit

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00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: of a weight. It's a little bit of a weight

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Speaker 1: like twelve months, but if you can get one, do

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Speaker 1: it because it could be could be a new classic.

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Speaker 2: Yeager, you never know?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well that's us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you enjoyed the show. And please, I

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Speaker 2: know we say this every time, but if you listen

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Speaker 2: to us saying this and you haven't done it, then

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Speaker 2: just do it. Leave us a rating on whatever platform

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Speaker 2: you're on, because it will help us grow and.

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Speaker 1: It will actually make me physically grow. I'm four foot tall.

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Speaker 2: To be any bigger than that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm four foot tall and look I look like.

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Speaker 2: Grant and his brother who's eaten a lot. Contact the

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Speaker 2: Drive Show dot com today if you want to email

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Speaker 2: us as well. We love reading your emails and sometimes

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Speaker 2: read them on the show as well.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes if I'm in a good mood, I don't have

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Speaker 1: my grumpy pants on. Daniel, Daniel, he got in contact?

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Speaker 2: Oh did he Yeah? Did he ask you to stop?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? He's apparently a lawyer is involved now, so.

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Speaker 2: Something that is ceasing and desisting.

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Speaker 1: There's something else cease and desist or cea section I'm

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Speaker 1: not questioning anyway, Live is rating. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: See you later,