1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to another episode of Outspoken. You're joined 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: by journalists Amy Sophie and Kate Torba. Coming up on 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: the episode The Pressures of the Dirty thirties, Why celebrating 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Christmas early can actually be good for your health and 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: the most underrated reality show on TV this year. But first, 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Kate and so how has you week been well? Iya 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: had a bit of a fake tan disaster this week 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: which almost derailed me for a big event we're working on. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: We had hand picked this weekend and I had my Pudgism, 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: which is a big music festival for those who don't 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: live in South Australia, and I had my tan or 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: worked out when I was going to do it so 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: it looked right for the day. Anyway, I went to 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: sleep with a very thick layer of fake tan on 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: and I must have been like cradling myself in my 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: sleep because I woke up and the first thing I 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: noticed when I looked in the mirror was these three 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: fingerprints on my neck. And then I looked at my 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: hand and I had these three marks on there as well, 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh my god, I'm all 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: of the biggest idiot. I must admit I love to 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: receive that snapchat in the morning. I think Kate got 23 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: it too, and I think we will have to put 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: it up on our Instace story when this episode drops, 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: because it is so funny. It is just something that 26 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: would happen to Sophie because growing up, Sophie used to 27 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: use about twice as much as of everything that we 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: all shared, So it doesn't surprise me that you use 29 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: so much tan that it's come off in that fashion. 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: I can't help but think about that story about when 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: Dad was in the bathroom and he was reaching for 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: some deodorant and his normal one had run out, so 33 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: he just grabbed this pink bottle in a spray can 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: and sprayed it under his arms and went about his 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: day and then literally like the next day, he thought 36 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: he was dying because his underarms had turned orange and 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: he was like, what's going on, And then. 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: He realized he'd sprayed fake tan under his arms. 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: For anyone else like me who wakes up with his 40 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: fake tan catastrophe, the best thing to do is just 41 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: to reapply it to the neck, the whole neck, and 42 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: then scrub your hands and then just lightly put it 43 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: over your hands again and leave it on for an 44 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: hour because it actually didn't ended up looking fine. I 45 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: was gonna say, I remember when Sophie slept over at 46 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: my house, and this was just before a big event 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: and we had to get really really early in the morning, 48 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: so we thought it was best she stayed over. And 49 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: when I came back to sleep in my bed the 50 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: next night, there was literally an outline of where Sophie's 51 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: body had been because she decided to fake tan and 52 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: not tell me when she slept in my bed. Is 53 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: that not the height of rudeness to fake tan and 54 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: then sleep in someone's bed. Rude? 55 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: But I mean, really to expect the same thing. Apparently. 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: I was talking to Sophie's boyfriend Brands, and then apparently 57 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: the same thing happens at their house. They've had a 58 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: debate over who hogs most of the bed, and when 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: they went to clean their sheets, they just saw this 60 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: orange figure. There was like this leg in this hand 61 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: encroaching on Brandon's side of the bed. We're talking about 62 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: people encroaching on other people's spots in the bed. My 63 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: boyfriend's dog, Shadow is a little rascal. I've been waking 64 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: up at about four am, and he somehow snuck up 65 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: on the bed and he lies like it's always on 66 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: my side, so you know when you just don't have 67 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: any blanket and you're really cold, And I sort of 68 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: tried to kick him, but he weighs twenty eight kilos 69 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: and he just doesn't move. So I sort of shoved 70 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: him again, and then he literally just stretched right out 71 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: and didn't move again. So it's happened the last three nights, 72 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: and I don't think I'm gonna get any more sleep 73 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: anytime soon. And you've had a pretty sleepless couple of 74 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: nights this week, haven't you, am We've been absolutely flat, 75 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I got. Yeah, we've been really busy. As we mentioned, 76 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: we did all the PR and we did all the 77 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: video content for the Handpicked Festival, and everyone stay tuned 78 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: for the PR Bible's wrap up video of that. And 79 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: so on Saturday night, I was exhausted. I didn't even 80 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: brush my teeth, which is a cardinal sin for our mother, 81 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: who's a dental therapist. 82 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: I just exhausted. 83 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: Anyway, I woke up on Sunday sort of in a 84 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: really tired slash grumpy mood, and my grumpiness escalated about 85 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: about four point thirty pm. At the Kilburn shopping center, 86 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: which I don't usually frequent. It's not near my house 87 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: at all, but anyway, it was in the area and 88 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: popped in and I'm sitting in my car with all 89 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: my groceries and these kids come out of nowhere and 90 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: spray this kind of candy flavored foam all over my 91 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: window and then all over the next window, and then 92 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: they went and sprayed it on the back window. 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,279 Speaker 2: And so I opened my car door slightly. 94 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: Because I'm not an idiot, They're probably gonna spray it 95 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: on me, so excuse me? Can you please not do that? 96 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: And I can't really say on the podcast what they 97 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: actually said, but let's just say they said, get f 98 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: u se And so that was probably the highlight of 99 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: my sunday. Reading between the lines, it was quite rude, 100 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Yes it was, and I just thought, I thought to myself, 101 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that this wasn't Kate, because my blood 102 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: was boiling. I could not imagine Kate, what you would 103 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: have done in that situation. 104 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: Probably would have spat on them. She has them. 105 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: She has been known to wind down her window if 106 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: I remember, someone punched her car, and instead of just thinking, oh, 107 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: this person's a psycho. Let's just move on. You unwound 108 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: your window and said what are you doing? 109 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I drove off. 110 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that was probably a dangerous situation, but I 111 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: probably these kids, may I add, were a out seven 112 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: to ten and I think their mother was there, and 113 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: I just thought, what on earth is going on? So 114 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: we should probably move on to our first topic. In 115 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: an interview with British Vogue, Emma Watson opened up about 116 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: the pressure of turning thirty. The Harry Potter star spoke 117 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: about the influx of subliminal messaging women face in the 118 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: lead up to the milestone birthday. The activists also coined 119 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: the phrase self partner to describe her relationship status, saying 120 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: she's very happy being single. Sophie, for someone who's turned 121 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: thirty recently, what did you make of the article? Well, 122 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: I completely agreed with Emma. I think that you both 123 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: will say that I was incredibly negative and anxious about 124 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: turning thirty this year, and I feel like it's because 125 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: everyone really thinks it's the end of their youth and 126 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: it really does make you reflect on what you've achieved 127 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: in life and whether you like how you compare to 128 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: everyone else. 129 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 2: And you know, I feel bad because. 130 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: A lot of us, we all kept saying, oh, thank god, 131 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: we've all got boyfriends at thirty, And although it was 132 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: kind of a joke, I feel like we probably all 133 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: would have had a bit of a meltdown if we didn't. 134 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing wrong with being thirty and being 135 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: single or being self partnered, as Emma Watson says, but 136 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: I feel like there really is that pressure upon you 137 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: that you must have someone in your life, you must 138 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: have achieved things in your career. 139 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: I completely agree. It's funny. 140 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a girl that I 141 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: had just met, and I don't think she realized that 142 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: what she was saying was offensive. But she was talking 143 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: about one of her friends that was twenty eight and 144 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: she'd been with her partner for a long time, and 145 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: she wasn't married yet, and she wasn't even engaged. And 146 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: I felt like saying, gosh, what must you think of me? 147 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm thirty and not engaged. Like it's so funny. I 148 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: think it's so refreshing that Emma Watson's actually come out 149 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: and spoke about her feelings of turning thirty. And I 150 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: suppose the fact that it reflects with a lot of 151 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: people's feelings about turning thirty. In the interview, she did 152 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: say that in the lead up to her birthday she 153 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: was like, I don't care. But as soon as it 154 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: got a little bit close and a little bit closer 155 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: and she turned twenty nine, she was like, oh my gosh. 156 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: It did made her reflect on her own life. And 157 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I think you're not being honest if you do say 158 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: you don't care about tenning thirty, because it is that 159 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: milestone number and although you know, we're all thirty now 160 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: and I feel absolutely no different to how I felt 161 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: in my late twenties. It actually I think it changes 162 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: the perception that others have on you and maybe their 163 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: thoughts about where you should be in your life. Well, 164 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: I've read a really great piece by Natalie Morris from 165 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: Metro UK and she was talking about when she was 166 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: approaching thirty, she became obsessed with googling the ages of 167 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: celebrities and I thought it was kind of funny because 168 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: that's something that I did as well. I just became 169 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: fixated on the fact that, oh, Taylor Swift will be 170 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: thirty soon, It's okay, And for her it was Rihanna, 171 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: and she was saying that she found out that Rihanna 172 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 1: was a year older than her, so for some reason, 173 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: it made her feel calm that this person who seemed 174 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: cool and young was a little bit older than her. 175 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: And I feel like with celebrities, there does seem to 176 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: be this endless fountain of youth with them that they 177 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: really never seem to age because maybe the things that 178 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: they're doing aren't what you'd perceive as normal thirty year 179 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: olds to be doing. They're stilling these exciting lives. I know, 180 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: for myself, whenever I thought about turning thirty, I always 181 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: said and thought, it's okay because the people and friends 182 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: are thirty and they still don't have their lives together 183 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: and they're still cool. I mean, look at Jennifer Aniston. 184 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: Now she's fifty and people on paper wouldn't deem her 185 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: to be a success because she's not married and she 186 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have kids, but she's an amazing success. 187 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: So it's just really how you look at things. 188 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: I think as well, in society, people are actually people 189 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: are changing their view of what a successful thirty year 190 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: old should be because I know a lot of people say, oh, 191 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: you've got to have kids, and you've got to be 192 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: married and you've got to have all this stuff by 193 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: you're thirty. But I know there's a lot of people 194 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: in their thirties that have kids and have a husband 195 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: or wife or whatever, and they're still not happy. So 196 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: if you're single, and I mean, bloody hell, I'd be 197 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: pretty happy if I was Emma Watson, Well, that's what 198 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: Natalie Morris was talking about in this article. She was 199 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: saying that Taylor Swift described her imminent thirtieth as weird. 200 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: Emma Stone said that turning thirty were gloomy and bittersweet, 201 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: and she was saying that if these globally successful women 202 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: don't feel okay about turning thirty, then what is the 203 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: hope for the rest of us. It's funny because I 204 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: remember watching a YouTube video with Shining Grutman and she 205 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: was talking about what's next for her, and she says, 206 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: of course, you know, she wants to get married at 207 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: twenty five and have a baby by the time she's thirty, 208 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: and you know her YouTube career will be over by then. 209 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: And I just found that's so weird to think that 210 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: when you're twenty one, you literally think your life is over. 211 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: When you're thirty, and why is that? Like, why have 212 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: we been set up? Is it something to do with 213 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, you get married and then 214 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: people seem to think that their whole life is over 215 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: once they get married and have kids. 216 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: It seems like it's just beginning. 217 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: I think for women it is, unfortunately the biological clock 218 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: that's happening. People think women think these days that they 219 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: have to have children by a certain age. I also 220 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: think it's because today, really youth is the biggest currency 221 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: you can have. We've been conditioned to fear this stage 222 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: of our life because youth is current. So I mean, 223 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: even when we started turning thirty, I kind of got 224 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: scared because I felt like as soon as I ticked 225 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: over from twenty nine to thirty, somehow kind of be 226 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: like irrelevant or you kind of excluded from that. So well, 227 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: but isn't that not how you felt? No, I didn't 228 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: at all. I don't feel irrelevant because I'm thirty. If anything, 229 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: in the business world, I was actually excited to say 230 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm actually thirty, So people seem to take you more seriously, 231 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: I think. So, I don't know if youth is currency, 232 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: as you say, I don't know if I completely agree 233 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: with that. I think it's currency in the terms of 234 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: like YouTube and Instagram, but we're not in that world. 235 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: So well, if you look at who marketers target their 236 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: brands to, it is a young demographic. It depends on 237 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: the product, Yeah, it depends. I mean normally it's women 238 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: eighteen to thirty. I suppose what's daunting is when you've 239 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: got to tick that box, like you know, when it's 240 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: you get your tax or whatever, I don't know, whatever 241 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: forms you to fill in and you're in the thirty box. 242 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people feel like they're 243 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: thirties have sprung up on them because I feel like 244 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: we're in this kind of half adulthood where we're not 245 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: really complete adults like our parents would have been at 246 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: this age, because you know, most of us don't have 247 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: enough money yet for houses when all of our parents 248 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: bought houses at twenty five. You know, everyone's having women 249 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: are having careers, so they're not having kids so early. 250 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: So I feel like we're kind of in this weird 251 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: half adulthood stage. And then when we turn thirty, we 252 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: feel like shit because we don't have the same things 253 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: our parents had. I mean, there's definitely a point of reflection. 254 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: But I also think for me, since leaving university in 255 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: high school, when there's all those markers, if you don't 256 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: get married and you don't have kids, and you don't 257 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: buy a house before you ten thirty, then you kind 258 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: of just are in this abyss of just being and living. 259 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, I'm actually glad that I haven't 260 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: got married and had kids by that time. I mean, 261 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: we were in a unique situation where Amy, Sophie, and 262 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: I all lived together. And reflecting back now that we're 263 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: all living with our boyfriends, of course we're all enjoying that, 264 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: but gosh, it was a time where you could just 265 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: do whatever you want to, stay up, watch whatever you wanted. 266 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: You didn't really have to think about each other, which 267 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: I suppose, in reflection, was quite bad that we didn't 268 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: really care what each other thought. But it was a real, 269 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: really cool time. And I think that so many people 270 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: get wrapped up in thinking about you know, that they 271 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: have to lock down a boyfriend or a you know, fiance. 272 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: How about you just go and do what you want 273 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: to do, and even once you're past thirty, how about 274 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: you just keep doing what you want to do, Because 275 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: I think as soon as we get locked down by 276 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: these ridiculous societal standards, that's when you start making wrong decisions, 277 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: Like someone could have got married at twenty two and 278 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: be divorced by now because it's the wrong person. Well, 279 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: it was quite interesting because Emma Watson, as I said, 280 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: was talking about the fact she got really nervous once 281 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: she'd hit twenty nine to then turn thirty. And I 282 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: think for everybody that's listening that might be in their 283 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: late twenties, I think the lead up to your thirtieth 284 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: is actually worse than when you actually turn thirty, because 285 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: you're like, oh. 286 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: Shit, I don't want to be thirty. 287 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't everyone's going to talk about maybe thirty or 288 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: the thing is you actually can have a great birthday party, 289 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: and then once you're ten thirty, you're like, oh, well 290 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: fuck it, Like thirty one doesn't sound too much old, 291 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: thirty two, It doesn't really matter. You are no different. 292 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: It's actually pretty cool to be like, well, I'm thirty, 293 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: so you've got to listen to what I say. 294 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: Oh I've used that a few times. 295 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: Our mum was so cute for our thirtieth she brought 296 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: us over big thirty balloons, and she bought us a 297 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: badge with thirty today. 298 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: Which we all refuse to wear. But it was really fun. 299 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: And we went to Bali for our thirtieth as well, 300 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: which was really cool, so it's not all bad. My 301 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: I ad mum brought all those thirtieth things when I 302 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: requested there'd be nothing. 303 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: With the word thirty. 304 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: I was into perspective when the day before our twenty 305 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: ninth birthday, Sophie woke up in a sweat, going, oh 306 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: my god, next year we're turning thirty. So Sophie's just 307 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: one of those people that really stresses about these sorts 308 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: of things. Well, I feel like the big difference between 309 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: being in your twenties and thirties is in your twenties, 310 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: I feel like you don't really know who you are. 311 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: So that's a real benefit of being in your thirties. 312 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: I feel like you're a lot more settled in your career. 313 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: You're so much more confident. And now that we have 314 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: ten thirty, I keep getting really angered by all these 315 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: memes that seemed to be on the internet at the moment. 316 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: It's all like, oh, if you used a digital camera 317 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: out at a club, you're ready for I cream and 318 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: oh you don't like clubbing any more? 319 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 320 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: I just hate the fact that we're just stereotyping people 321 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: into whatever age demographic they are, and kind of fearmongering 322 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: people into this doom and gloom that oh, thirties is 323 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world, because I mean, to 324 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: be honest, it did really affect me. I mean I 325 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: cried the night before I turned thirty because I just 326 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: felt so over Joey from friends pretty much you said 327 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't big. Did you actually cry? I did cry. 328 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: Poor Brandon had to comfort me. I mean, it was 329 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: all right for him. He was still twenty five hard work. 330 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: What do they say, you're only as young as the 331 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: guy that you're with, so technically saves twenty six everyone. 332 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: Now, I don't think that's I know it's not. 333 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: I've made it PG for the podcast because our mother does. 334 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: But I have been embracings now, haven't I. 335 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 336 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: I haven't heard much whinging about it. Mean, there's just 337 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: other things to winge about. Now. You're quite passionate about 338 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: doing this topic as well, But I think we it's 339 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: time to move on to our next topic, which is 340 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: all about Christmas and can you believe it's actually seven 341 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: weeks out from the big day and decorations and carols 342 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: continue to take over stores and our radio stations. And 343 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: while many love this time of year, others loathe it. 344 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: So what determines whether you're a Christmas lover like us 345 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: or a grinch? So I'm actually dealing with a Christmas 346 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: grinch myself. My boyfriend Reese doesn't enjoy Christmas at all, 347 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty upset about it, to be honest, I'm 348 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: trying my best to turn the situation. 349 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: Around and make it really fun. And I say, as 350 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: I said to him, you haven't had a Christmas with me. 351 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: It's actually quite interesting because the University of Birmingham conducted 352 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: a study about why people love or hate Christmas, which 353 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: surprised me that there was such a study that existed. 354 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: They reported that there's obviously no inborn knowledge about Christmas, 355 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: and whether we like it or not must come from 356 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: our own experiences. So it's basically saying that if you 357 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: had a great Christmas as a child, then you're going 358 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: to love Christmas as an adult because Christmas is a 359 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: time where you can relive all of those childhood mens memories. 360 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: So I think Reese maybe he didn't have a great 361 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: Christmas growing on. Well that's what I'm confused, because we're 362 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: talking about it family dinner, and apparently his brother Ryan 363 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: loves Christmas and he would always open his presence with 364 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: such excitement. And then apparently Reese just had no excitement. 365 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: But maybe he did have an older brother, so maybe 366 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: it's because he knew father Christmas wasn't real at a 367 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: young age. I think that could really maybe have an 368 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: effect on people. Well at recent studies actually come out 369 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: and said that people who decorate their house in Christmas 370 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: decorations early are actually happier and healthier people. So it 371 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: is really good for your mental health to get into 372 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: the Christmas spirit. So I think maybe you should tell 373 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Reese that he needs to start getting into start playing 374 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: carols now and okay, well let's see how happy. I 375 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: think everyone needs the same injection of Christmas spirit that 376 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: we had when we were at Uni. We had so 377 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: much time off that we literally invested our time in 378 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: making Christmas the best time ever. So the three of 379 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: us would decorate the front of our house with lights 380 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: because our dad refused to do it. The funniest moment. Well, 381 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: he didn't refuse to remember, he used to decorate it, 382 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: but then he didn't. He didn't put up enough lights 383 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: to our liking. And we had some enemiesic well they weren't, 384 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't known to them, but we joked that they 385 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: are our enemies because they were the only other house 386 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: in the street that really put a lot of lights up. 387 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: So we used to want to beat them, and so 388 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: we had this competition running. But the competition was only 389 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: we were only aware of it. So we got two 390 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: extreme levels though, because we have this large brush fence, 391 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: so we'd always say that our house was a private display. 392 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: But we were really pissed off about this fence because 393 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: it really altered the Christmas And that's been a huge 394 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: consideration in the future. Whenever I look at a house 395 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: and I think, I mean, not that I'm in, not 396 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: that I'm looking to buy a house at the moment, 397 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: but if I ever window shop, I'm like, I can't 398 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: have that house because it's got a large fence. I 399 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: need a small fence so people can see the Christmas lights. Well, 400 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: the other thing was that it had this large tree 401 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: and it was really blocking a pivotal part of the display, 402 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: so we asked our dad if he would cut it down, 403 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: which he refused. And then so our dad's a teacher, 404 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: so he usually used to get home around three o'clock, 405 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: so it was about four o'clock four o'clock, so it 406 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: was about three two or three in the afternoon, and 407 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: we thought, let's just get this down and he won't notice. 408 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: So Amy climbs up the tree with a saw, cuts 409 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: this huge tree down, and then all of a sudden 410 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: we see his little green Berena coming down the road 411 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: and we quickly grabbed the tree and tried to pull 412 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: it around the side. 413 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: This was all me. 414 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: I had to run with this giant branch around the side. 415 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: Just put it. Was crazy because he was not happy. 416 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: But of course the moment he pulled in, Amy was 417 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: just halfway between the fence with this massive. 418 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: Branch and he on ape shit. 419 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: I love that Amy thought that Dad wouldn't notice that 420 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: the huge part of the tree was missing from the 421 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: front yard. Do you know what the best bit was? 422 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: Though our lights have never looked better than that year. 423 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: Shout out to Dad. 424 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: Though he did do the very thankless task of taking 425 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: the lights down when we couldn't be bothered. I have 426 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: to say, because I was reflecting on this topic a 427 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: bit when I was talking about Christmas and my boyfriend 428 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: and I have to say, our parents put on the 429 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: most spectacular Christmas for us, and it was very much 430 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: our Grandma, who I feel like she is the reason 431 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: we love Christmas so much. She had the most epic 432 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: Christmases ever and she is the reason we're so obsessed 433 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: with it. The best bit about Grandma's Christmas is where 434 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: she used to serve tongue sandwiches, which she was the 435 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: only person who would eat them. But we used to 436 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: play this game because there was so much food at Christmas. 437 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: We used to blindfold our little cousins and give them 438 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: little bits of food and they had to guess what 439 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: it was. 440 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: And of course. 441 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: Everybody tried to put the tongue sandwiches and people it's about. 442 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 443 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: Our little cousin, who probably was about five at the time, 444 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: we gave him a teaspoon of orange juice and he 445 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: just burst into tears after he had it because he 446 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: just assumed it would be something so gross. My two 447 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: favorite things about Christmas our Christmas leapovers with our cousins, 448 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: where We've been known to stay up till six o'clock 449 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: in the morning and go to Ezy and then go 450 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: to McDonald's for breakfast. 451 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: And then the other is our epic white party. 452 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: So everyone keep an eye out on our Instagram for 453 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: our white party is going to be top notch this year. 454 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: It sounds so much more than it actually is. Literally 455 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: a small gathering with our friends and we all were white, 456 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: but we love it. But every year everyone's like, fuck, 457 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: I've got to get a new white dress for this event. 458 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: Every year some sort of. 459 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: Love prospect comes to the party and it's really awkward 460 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: and funny. It's boring this year. Now we've all got boyfriends. 461 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: So talking about Christmas traditions, of course, everybody buys gifts 462 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: for each other each year, and there was an interesting 463 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: study which came out and it was talking about the 464 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: psychology around what gifts you actually buy people, and research 465 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: shows that people focus on the reaction of the recipient 466 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: rather than the practical use of the item itself. So 467 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: they might give you something really expensive, so other people 468 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: sit and go, wow, they were generous, But then the 469 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: item's going to sit on that person's shelf and never 470 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: ever get used. Or there's the person who buys the 471 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: gift that they wanted for Christmas and the person doesn't 472 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: really want it. What kind of gift givers do you 473 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: guys think you are? I think the reaction because I 474 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: hate like I particularly put a lot of effort into 475 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: buying Amy and Sophie's presence, and I'm always like, no, 476 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: I can't get that because they could buy it for themselves. 477 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: Like I always want to get something that's got the 478 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: wow factor, and I don't think it's not just I 479 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: don't know, I've never really thought about it like that, 480 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: but I suppose it is to get the reaction and 481 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: to be like, oh wow, I just like getting things 482 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: that are really thoughtful. I mean, I don't not to 483 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: sound like I do good of it. Christmas for me 484 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: is never just about the gifts. It's not like I'm like, 485 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't wait to get presents. I 486 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: actually really like selecting presidents for other people. Anyone who 487 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: has followed this podcast for a while now will know 488 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: that I love Sammy Robinson. She is my favorite influencer, 489 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: and a couple of years ago, my boyfriend probably gave 490 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: me the nicest president of ever. It's a bit of 491 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: a flex. Yeah, this is a bit of a flex here. 492 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: It was the necklace she wore, which was eight hundred dollars, 493 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: and while it was it was amazing to get it, 494 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: there is that shame when your present isn't quite as 495 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: much as the other past present a surfboard, which was 496 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: expensive enough, but it was I think two hundred dollars shy. 497 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: So then I just felt kind of bad for the 498 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: rest of the time. 499 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: What do people think about discussing a budget with their 500 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: partners or their even Amy and I we all know 501 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: the budget. We're like, we're gonna spend two hundred dollars together, 502 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: Like so Amy and I will put in one hundred 503 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: bucks each and get something for Sophie. 504 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: Do you I think you do have to have a budget. 505 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: I think once you've been going out with someone for 506 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: a while, we've known a friend for a while, I 507 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: think there is an implied budget. I would be pretty 508 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: taken aback if the budget was eight hundred dollars. Well, 509 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: that was our first Christmas together, so it has we 510 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: the follow the next year, we made a budget of 511 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. 512 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: That's the worst thing. 513 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: You've got to start small because you can't top it, 514 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: Like if you start at eight hundred dollars for your 515 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: first Christmas gift, then you've got to keep going up. 516 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: And up and up. 517 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: I feel like what I can't stand, and I feel 518 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: like we've touched on it in some previous podcasts is 519 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: I just don't get people who don't enjoy Christmas and 520 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: then have to winge. Oh the carols are on, Oh 521 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: the Christmas decorations up and it's November. It's like, well, 522 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: why can't we enjoy it? Like or oh, we've got 523 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: to call Christmas. We can't even call Christmas Christmas. We've 524 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: got to call it the holiday season? Like why can't 525 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: we all enjoy it? As I said, I feel like 526 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: people who don't enjoy Christmas either had really miserable ones 527 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: or I think it must be that they have to 528 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: work on Christmas, because I remember when Sof and I 529 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: were working for the News, we had to I had 530 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: to work two Christmas days and it really did suck 531 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: the fun out of it. So I feel like if 532 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: you start working from a young age on Christmas Day, 533 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: it's just like any other day. But then again, like 534 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: I feel like Christmas Day isn't the most enjoyable. Bit, 535 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: it's actually the lead up and you can still enjoy 536 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: the leader. But what family does not have an argument 537 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: in the lead up, like who's going where you know 538 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: there is? I mean, I don't know if it was 539 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: just our family, but there was always some kind of 540 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: argument about who's in laws were being visited and what 541 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: time did you feel like Christmas without the pre Christmas 542 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: see argument the day. But the day of Christmas is 543 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: actually not what I enjoy. I think I enjoyed the 544 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: morning and then it's really more. I love Christmas Eve. 545 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: Our family tradition is watching the carols and just tearing 546 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: it apart with our dad. And that might sound really mean, 547 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: but it's hilarious. Our dad is so funny. Like one 548 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: year when High Five used to perform, he dressed up 549 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: like them. He got this garbage bag and tried to 550 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: look like that. Not to say they dressed like garbage. 551 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: Bit that's another thing I missed about Christmas. High Five 552 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: never perform anymore. It's the stupid looney tunes. I was 553 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: saying to my boyfriend Brandon the other day that I'm 554 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: going to try and make my future kids believe in 555 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Santa Claus for as long as they can, like, there 556 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: will be those losers going to school. 557 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: Being like he does exist. 558 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: I've got his signature, I've got a bit of carrot 559 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: from him talking about losers that believed in him for 560 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: a long time. We were way too old and the 561 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: moment came when we were in I think you're sick. 562 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: So the teacher said, let's respond to the kids who 563 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: have written Santa letters, and Amy, Sophie and. 564 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 2: I all looked at each other and we were like what. 565 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: It was so disappointing. One of our best friends growing up, 566 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 1: who is probably listening, Thomas glazed it. 567 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 2: He im not appreciate we love it. 568 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Every week he gives us a live commentary of our podcast, 569 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: which is so lovely. 570 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, it was really funny because it's great to have 571 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: that one listener. 572 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: It was really funny because when we were growing up, 573 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: when we found out that Father Christmas wasn't real, Thomas 574 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: and his brother Michael, their twins, they were both like, see, 575 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: we told you he wasn't real, and then we later 576 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: found out, but they were trying to act so cool, 577 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: and then we later found out that Thomas was really 578 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: upset when he found out that Father Christmas wasn't real, 579 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: and that Thomas what'tre eight? 580 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: He won't care. 581 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean talking about devastating news, I mean one. I 582 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: still believe in Centa, but we'll just move on. I've 583 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: heard Kate, You've had some pretty devastating news this week 584 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: about the status of your real Christmas tree. Because, as 585 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: toll there, we cannot go through a Christmas year without 586 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: getting a real tree. There's no way there's a fake tree. 587 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: What's the update on your tree? The upsetting news was 588 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: delivered at Reese's family dinner last night by his mum 589 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: that he actually is allergic to pine trees, so much 590 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: so that they paid seven hundred and fifty dollars to 591 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: the next door neighbors to get their trees removed. 592 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: This was news to me. 593 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: So it seems like it may be the first year 594 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: that I don't have a real Christmas tree, and I'm 595 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: quite devastated about it. I think you've got to have 596 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: the most expensive fuck off Christmas tree. Oh don't worry. 597 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: I was googling them last night. There was a six 598 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: hundred dollars Christmas tree at David Jones with my name 599 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: on it. Currently. Well, I only live down the road 600 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: for you and I'm not accepting seven hundred and fifty 601 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: dollars not to have my pine tree. Also, moving on, 602 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: it's the reality TV show no one's talking about but 603 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: should be Bright and Prejudice the Forbidden Weddings is tackling 604 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: the hot topics that should have Australian tongues wagging, but 605 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: is barely rating and mentioned Kate, what are the ratings 606 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: for Bride and Prejudice and why do you think people 607 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: aren't watching it? Well, the series bombed out in its 608 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: premiere with four hundred and thirty eight thousand views, which 609 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: it was actually beaten in its time slot by the 610 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: Block and ABC's seven thirty and also the Hard Quiz, 611 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: so I think Channel seven we're probably quite surprised by 612 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: that because in its debut year it topped the ratings 613 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: that are around eight hundred and seventy four thousand, So 614 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: it's a big drop off for the show. Well for me, 615 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: I actually love this show, but the first episode did 616 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: seem very reminiscent of last series. First episode, it seemed 617 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: like the same characters as the parents who hate the 618 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: fact that their kids are gay and getting married. Then 619 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: there's the bitch mother who hates the future daughter in law. 620 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: But I for one knew this show was just going 621 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: to get so much better. 622 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: It's one of those. 623 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: Shows that I feel like people don't go on to 624 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: for reality fame. It's just more for the entertainment of 625 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: the people watching, because they're real nobodies. It's not like 626 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: you really grow to like these people. But what sat 627 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: their motivation then, Like, how do they sell these shows? Well? 628 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: I one did that, So I did a little bit 629 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: of research into the show, and I thought maybe it 630 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: was one of those shows where they tell you it's 631 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: a different show, like when you sign on to it 632 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: and it's got in the contract, you know, we can 633 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: change the name of the show at any time. It actually, 634 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: once I looked into it, they were very open that 635 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: this was bright and prejudice, and they put a cast 636 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: call out a few probably last year for people to apply. 637 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: I actually think the motivation is the fact that they 638 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: pay for the wedding, which I still don't get. I mean, 639 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: why would you want to be humiliated on national TV 640 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: your dirty laundry ad just for a free, crappy wedding. Well, 641 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: the motivation definitely can't be the psychologists on board, because 642 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: all they seem to do is stir shit and they 643 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: don't actually seem to come to any resolution at all. 644 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: So just regular TV psychologists in these TV shows, do 645 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: you know what? 646 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: There's one psychologist this blonde woman and oh my god, 647 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: I actually couldn't believe it. For those who haven't seen 648 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: the show, they decided to hold a counseling session and 649 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: it was clearly just to humiliate this one couple who'd 650 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: reveal they haven't been having sex. So what they did 651 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: was they gave each couple a bunch of post it 652 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: notes and called them up one at a time, and 653 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: they said they had to put the post it notes 654 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: on parts of the body that their partner really enjoys 655 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: being touched. And oh my god, it was so cringe. 656 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, where else he meant to put this post 657 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: it note? Like it was pretty obvious where the post 658 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: it notes were going. Well, the show really has brought 659 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: up a lot of interesting topics. I mean there's the 660 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: obvious ones that you would think about. You know that 661 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: one of the mum's Laurel called Cody Lee the sea 662 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: word and also said she wouldn't spit on her if 663 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: she was on fire, So just the normal you know, ramblings. 664 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: So there's a lesbian couple and poor Jojo. Her parents 665 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: are very strict Catholics and they are not fans of 666 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: the fact that she's marrying a woman. They like her partner, 667 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: but they just will refuse to go to the wedding. 668 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: And while we've had. 669 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: This scenario on the show before, it really got me thinking. 670 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: These parents are very elderly. They were on their zimmer 671 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: frame storming off, and it just got me thinking, I 672 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: don't need to I completely disagree with their views and 673 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: what they're saying, but when does it come to a 674 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: point where we've got to think about their age and 675 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: the fact that they really don't know any better, and 676 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: we're exploiting these people's views and making them, you know, 677 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: the focus of a lot of hate. 678 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. 679 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: They're opening this elderly couple up to a lot of 680 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: trolling online, which I do believe they've received. It's funny 681 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned Cody Lee and the mother who said all 682 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: this horrible stuff about her. I watched that, and having 683 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: worked in the media, I wondered, you know, when they're filming, 684 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: when they're recording that interview on set, what do they 685 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: say to get that out of her. I mean, obviously 686 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: they say, can you tell us what you think about 687 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: your daughter in law to be? But you know what 688 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean, after she said I wouldn't spit on her 689 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: if she was on fire, are they like, okay, cat, 690 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: that was great, thank you. I think she called her 691 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: a seat to her face. Oh okay, no, but when 692 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: she said she wouldn't spit on her if she was 693 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: on fire. One of my favorite bits is that Codie 694 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Lee's daughter is name is star Amani. 695 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: What a name. 696 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: We're going back to the focus on the gay couple. 697 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: I think it is an important conversation to have though, 698 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: because I suppose there are a lot of young people 699 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: who find themselves in the scenario where they do have 700 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: older parents who it isn't in you know who, in 701 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: their lifetime, it hasn't been acceptable. So I suppose it 702 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: could help some children out there relate to someone else 703 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: who's experiencing this. But as you say, there should be 704 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: something in place to make sure that this trolling isn't going. 705 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: On of the parents. 706 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: Well, fortunately they probably don't have social media, so that's 707 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: one good thing. Another thing that I felt like is 708 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: a bit I mean, I'm enjoying the show. But a 709 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: bit off is the fact that Danny and Denton, so 710 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: they are the couple that Amy touched upon, that they 711 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: were talking about their sex lives and it was a 712 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: bit embarrassing. And Danny's famous for having big brawling fights 713 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: with her mum and her sister. But the unfortunate thing 714 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: is that Danny's father actually died six months ago and 715 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: you can just see that she's going through so much grief, 716 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: which the whole point is the mum saying, look. 717 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: You're just not ready to be married. We don't really. 718 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: We also don't like Denton because he's a complete ass. Yeah. 719 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: I just felt like I was watching this poor twenty 720 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: three year old girl go through all these stages of 721 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: grief and just being exploited for the camera, and it 722 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: was just to be uncomfortable. Yeah, the whole Denton and 723 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: Danny thing has been very entertaining but very awkward. I'd 724 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: recommend everyone to go watch it on whatever the seven 725 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: app is. It's very entertaining. 726 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: But it got me thinking. 727 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: Whether this was actually a real reality television show or 728 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: whether some people were paid actors, because some of the 729 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: stuff coming out of these people's mouths, it just fell 730 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: and so I did a little bit of research and 731 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Channel seven have actually come under fire because they attempted 732 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: to claim a tax rebate by listing this reality show 733 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: as a documentary, but it was knocked back by Screen 734 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: Australia who were objected to the characterization. So they actually said, no, 735 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: you cannot get the tax rebate because we know you've 736 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: set some of these scenes up which actually indicate not 737 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: potentially I'm not saying these people are actors, but like 738 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: all reality shows, some scenes have been forced upon, so 739 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: it's not a true fly on the wall documentary they 740 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: were hoping it might be considered. I think everyone can 741 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 1: clearly see that this program is not a documentary is 742 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: there is no objectivity in it. 743 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: It is just people. 744 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: Airing the dirty laundry on air and Channel seven amping 745 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: it up. 746 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: And I love it, well, yeah, and I love it 747 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: so much. 748 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: And I watched it a lot of it on catch up, 749 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 1: so I wasn't totally in at the start, but now 750 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm completely hooked. And they've got the weddings tonight, which 751 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: is fantastic. But one thing I was thinking when I 752 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: was reflecting on why the hell are we not talking 753 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,239 Speaker 1: about this? Everyone's been talking about Love Island, which I 754 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: think has been totally shit. Why are we not talking 755 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: about the show which has got such explosive drama, And 756 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: I was thinking, is it because the people aren't hot? 757 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: I think it is just because for me, I haven't 758 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: I started watching it and I haven't kept up because 759 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: there is just so much reality TV on at the 760 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: same time slot. So I think it's a real juggle 761 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: of what you're gonna make time for. Yeah, there hasn't 762 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: been much hype about it at all. Everyone talks about 763 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: The Bachelor. The Bachelor is a show that you can 764 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: sit around and you go to work, and if you 765 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: haven't seen the latest episode, you feel like you're missing out. 766 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if it's just because Channel seven have had 767 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: a string of shit reality TV shows. I was looking 768 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: into it. They've had the Super Switch, which I actually 769 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: really enjoyed, but it did not rate well. It also 770 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: had that Proposal show, which was the shittest show I've 771 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: ever seen, and then they had that dirty dancing thing. 772 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: I think it's the low budget vibe that those shows 773 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: are putting across, So you're assuming that this show is 774 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: going to be a very low budget, which. 775 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: I know you do like talking. 776 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: No, it's not that just talking about low budget. It 777 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: was actually filmed with Adelaide. How can you get more 778 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: low budget than they've made it look beautiful, which it is. 779 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: I love Adelaide, but it's so funny. They had a 780 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: scene where Denton had to go into the mall with 781 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: this sign on him that was degrading, and I saw 782 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: the mole's balls on the pigs and I was like, 783 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is Philly Adelaide talking about low budget. 784 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: They were shopping for their engagement rings and shields. I 785 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: was like, ooh, another reason not to be on the show. Well, 786 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 1: they're the cringe worthy influencer moments that you just can't 787 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: look away from. Each week will crown the most jaw 788 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: droppingly bad social media content that's filling up our news feeds. 789 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: Who's been on your radar this week? Amy, Well, I 790 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: think the award has to go to Jonathan Sower and 791 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: Madison Wooley, who have been documenting their Barley Vaca all 792 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: over Instagram, and I must say I'm thoroughly enjoying it. 793 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's my guilty pleasure watching their Insta 794 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: stories and we've seen them have their smoothie balls. We've 795 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: seen them go out to the gym. They've been having 796 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: a ball of a time according to Instagram. But the 797 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: cringeworthy moment was when Madison. 798 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 2: Revealed that they'd been robbed. 799 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: Apparently they were only twenty meters away when robbers came 800 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: into their barley villa to take their stuff, And it 801 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: just made me think, was it anything to do with 802 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: what they were sharing on social media because they were 803 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: coming across as the you know, extremely rich ausies. 804 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were just white privilege. They were just splashing 805 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: their cash. 806 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: Actually, in the instagram that appeared before they were robbed, 807 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: it was showing their lavish villa with Madison Woolle running 808 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: away with their laptops, with their cameras with this, with that, 809 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm just glad they did not steal the vlogging camera 810 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: because I have been hanging out. 811 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: Apparently it's meant to be up tonight. The most cringeworthy Oh, 812 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 2: I got. 813 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: Excited because she said she uploaded one and then it 814 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: was one of those stupid white fox holes and I'm 815 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: not interested in watching. Do you know what's actually most 816 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: cringeworthy about the trip is that they were putting up 817 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: on their instagrams asking for sponsors or sponsorship deals before 818 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: their trip, so you can just tell who's clearly like 819 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: them to stay at their accommodation for free. And I 820 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: don't think it was that great of publicity than publicizing 821 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: the fact that they had all their stuff stolen. Well, 822 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for. Thank you 823 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: so much again for listening. If you would like to 824 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: continue the conversation, you can find us on Instagram at 825 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: Outspoken Underscore the podcast and we will have an Insta 826 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: story up of Sophy's tan so you can check it 827 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: out for yourself. 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