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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday. It's the jam Nation Podcast with Jonesy and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Have you lost your child's toy and you've lost your mind?

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Speaker 2: You think, what is going to happen? My kid's going

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Speaker 2: to scream the house down, or the airport down, or

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Speaker 2: Grandma's house down until I can find a replacement. Well,

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Speaker 2: there's a little boy who lost his teddy bear on

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Speaker 2: a plane. He has been reunited with us, but it

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Speaker 2: triggered all of us.

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Speaker 1: The tribal drum will beat. I'm a slave to my

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Speaker 1: kid's stupid toy.

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Speaker 2: We put Dave Warner to the pub test. Should he

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Speaker 2: be dropped from the team or should he still be

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Speaker 2: in there?

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Speaker 1: What about Chris Masters, He's written a book about Ben

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Speaker 1: Robert Smith. Are there any questions?

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Speaker 2: Well, we put a few to him, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of questions, Tom Cruise banning Pete Overton from the

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Speaker 1: Red Carpet premiere.

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Speaker 2: Of his movie, We do a deep dive.

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Speaker 1: That's all coming up on the jam Nation podcast. I

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Speaker 1: won't know that a miracle of recording. We have so

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Speaker 1: many requests.

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Speaker 3: For them to do it again.

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Speaker 4: Mistress Amanda's MS killer Amanda doesn't work alone.

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Speaker 5: Friend in making the tools of the train.

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Speaker 1: I've heard them describe him as a drunken idiot. I

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Speaker 1: the legendary part. Jonesy, Amanda the actress.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, you're theread right now.

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Speaker 1: Jon and Amanda, you're doing a great job for anyone

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Speaker 1: but your Selfie giant to now the good radio. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: a bit of a tongue tongue twist set and Amanda's shoot.

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Speaker 2: Timy, we're on the air.

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Speaker 1: Hell, how are you today?

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Speaker 2: Fog one leg and I'm well, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great? Just call me the creator, the creator of life.

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Speaker 1: Slightly blaspheming must turn Remember the fish pond that I had?

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Speaker 1: Still have the fish pond?

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Speaker 2: You haven't turned it into a skate ramp?

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Speaker 1: No, no, but it's not that big. And then I

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Speaker 1: got re lined, I got the fish in it, and

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Speaker 1: then the fish died.

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Speaker 2: And then there's more background than that. Do you mind

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Speaker 2: if I tell the background now about how you're not

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Speaker 2: great at keeping fish alive. It seems that anything anything

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Speaker 2: from the animal kingdom that comes into your home doesn't

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Speaker 1: Cats that live for a thousand years.

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Speaker 2: The cats, yes, but particularly was one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: those fish human years?

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Speaker 1: That in human years, I mean he would have been

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Speaker 1: sitting on top of a Nepalese mountain, dispensing advice and

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Speaker 1: smelling poorly.

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Speaker 2: But fish don't last long in your house. When you

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Speaker 2: moved into that house, there was a really rich ecosystem,

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Speaker 2: and you didn't even know. You didn't even know that.

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Speaker 2: You didn't know it was a fish pond, that's how

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Speaker 2: It was a giant fish pond.

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Speaker 1: And I trimmed down the bush and found a lush,

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Speaker 2: All died because you ripped all a canopy off or

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Speaker 1: Problem was it was leaking, and we're going through a

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Speaker 1: going to be a little bit green. No, no, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Want that, So fish can't live in that.

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Speaker 1: So when all the fish died, then it was like

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Speaker 1: a War of the roses thing. Helen and I just

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Speaker 1: to the local fish shop and bought five bogglel eyed

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Speaker 2: Right, so there is some greenery in there.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So this is a way of in the world.

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Speaker 1: You know when people say happy wife, happy life, and

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Speaker 1: grown over and the boggle eyed fish are thriving healthily,

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Speaker 2: You know, the obvious causality here is that you've been away.

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Speaker 2: You've been away for two weeks and the fish have

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Speaker 2: can see the truth in that TP.

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Speaker 1: I was away. I'm not responsible for you. Nothing here.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fish, pond fish, fish.

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Speaker 2: Boggle eyes.

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Speaker 1: I know those bogleizes media types of weirders, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: He's having fish thinking that you've done it, Brendan.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, just call me the creator, I will and do you.

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Speaker 2: You'll be honest about how long they last.

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Speaker 1: There's one. There's a lot of them there. There's about six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they have to morph to the next stage.

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Speaker 1: I think there more.

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Speaker 2: What if you had sea monkeys in there? You know

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Speaker 2: they give away the big tiny briefcases and high cheese

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Speaker 2: in Utopia brilliant. They were just sea life, you know what,

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Speaker 2: the seas. But still and you know they're just little midgies. Nothing.

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Speaker 2: Lava didn't match the picture in any way.

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Speaker 1: Fish. I probably should try them out, package them up

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Speaker 1: and sell them to kids. There you go.

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Speaker 2: Lots of things on the show.

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Speaker 1: Things. We've got a controversial guest on the show. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to go into it now because we don't

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Speaker 1: have peach Time.

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Speaker 2: Controversial.

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Speaker 1: Well it is. It's controversial because it's about a controversial character,

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Speaker 1: a fallen hero. Yeah, and you know, whenever you talk

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Speaker 1: got an author of about the book about this man.

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Speaker 2: But let's get to Magnificent seven. First question one, what

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Speaker 2: do caterpillars turn into? It's not fish podcast.

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Speaker 1: We have for you the Magnificent Seven the uninitiated. There

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Speaker 1: are seven questions. Can you go all the way and

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Speaker 1: answer all seven questions correctly? If you do that, Amanda will.

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Speaker 2: Say, watch Jonesy around your pets.

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Speaker 1: But it's about anny questions, pedophile, I'm not okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, nev of Terry will feel free to

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Speaker 6: Look, it's a bit early for this guy.

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Speaker 7: The fishes, I think.

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Speaker 1: That means.

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Speaker 2: Mafia stars is one thing. Jonesy styles another.

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Speaker 1: My little goggle eyed, boggle eyed blackfish are now producing

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Speaker 2: And but the reason they're alive is cause you were away.

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Speaker 2: So maybe the hell alone.

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Speaker 1: How long does a fish take to jestate? In the

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Speaker 1: Little the Fish Tummy.

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Speaker 2: You're the fish fisheronado.

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Speaker 1: Excuse just create the fish.

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Speaker 2: See, I'm trying to get you out of this, nev.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on. Question number one. What do caterpillars turn into?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 7: I know this because I had the Very Hungry Caterpillar

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Speaker 6: He would be a butterfly.

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Speaker 1: What was Tom Cruise's call sign in the nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: six movie Top Gun. It's not really his call sign,

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Speaker 1: it was more of his handle. His call sign, if

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Speaker 1: you want to get really technical, was ghost rider.

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Speaker 2: So what's the question? What was his hand? What's his nickname?

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Speaker 1: What's his nickname? They all have those fly boys, they

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Speaker 1: all have a nickname, Tom Cruise, he was, I think

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Speaker 1: you're after Maverick.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's play the not so secret sound with you.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: What's this?

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Speaker 7: Oh it's a dolphin?

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: Randon involved dolphins? Now are you do you know? Go

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Speaker 2: on that I've had a relationship with the dog and

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Speaker 2: it up. I'm a little trigger to what happened. Well,

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Speaker 2: there were two dolphins in it. I was doing a

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Speaker 2: beyond two thousand story. There are two a number of dolphins,

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Speaker 2: but there was a male dolphin and a female dolphin

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Speaker 2: and they've got a corkscrew penis, and they try and

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Speaker 2: female was getting very cranky, so I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: break them up. I said, Okay, guys, I've had my fun.

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Speaker 1: A three way with some dolphins. You know your rock

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Speaker 1: and roll man.

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Speaker 2: I just anyway, Nev, we've got off to a very animal,

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Speaker 2: grubby start today.

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Speaker 1: In Which country did chess originate? Nev was an A India,

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Speaker 1: B German or see.

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Speaker 8: Poland, ah, India, Poland or China, Germany, Oh, England, Poland

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Speaker 8: in India, Germany, Poland.

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Speaker 1: Stop putting your own categories in there. There's three categories, India, Germany,

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Speaker 1: and Poland. No other countries.

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Speaker 6: Let's get Germany a look.

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Speaker 2: It was a long securitor's journey and it's come to

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Speaker 2: an end.

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Speaker 1: There we have it.

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Speaker 2: Question number three, all right, in which country to chess originate?

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Speaker 2: India or Poland?

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Speaker 1: The Magnificent Seven? It's question for.

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Speaker 2: It's going to Carol and Kings. Would Hi? Carol? Hello Amanda, Hello, Hi, Carol?

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Speaker 6: Hello John?

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Speaker 1: Okay are you reading that of for card? Carol? I

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Speaker 1: are you reading that off a card? I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: to work out how.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, okay, see how far we can

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Speaker 2: get you through the mag seven. You've come in at

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Speaker 2: question four? In which country did chess originate? These are

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Speaker 2: your only two options, Carol, India or Poland? India India

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Speaker 2: the game of chess was born in India during the

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Speaker 2: Gupta dynasty in the sixth century.

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Speaker 1: What about that? What I like a game of chess?

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Speaker 1: I haven't played chess for some time.

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Speaker 2: I was obsessed when I was younger and played for years.

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Speaker 1: Whether you were obsessed with the musical Chess.

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Speaker 2: No one is the worst one I loved.

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Speaker 1: When we ever played Murray Head, Carol. Question number five

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Speaker 1: for you, what was the original name for the Grammy Awards?

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Speaker 2: Well, what we're asking here is what's the word grammy

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Speaker 2: short for.

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Speaker 2: It's even worse if you've murdered someone.

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Speaker 1: Say why is it a slice of cheese?

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Speaker 1: Little slice of cheese.

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Speaker 1: If you're playing soccer, you'd always be getting them. I

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Speaker 1: New Barbie movie, Tony.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm a I'm a fish life giver, Tony.

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Speaker 9: Of course?

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five, Fleetwood Mac release land What are

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Speaker 2: Landslide? This is my favorite everisong? Oh my, I hope

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Speaker 5: That's really what the song Landside is about. To give

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Speaker 5: Opinion always was yes, it is. What we have to

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Speaker 1: Come over and sing back up? Sign us with us?

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Speaker 10: So you're sky in Houston in the morning, is this

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Speaker 2: Goodbye, everybody.

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Speaker 10: I've got to go, gotta leave you all behind and

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Speaker 2: Am I ever going to see your face again?

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Speaker 1: We've got Chris Masters joining us on the show.

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Speaker 1: He is a pretty good journalist and this is best

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Speaker 2: lines our rules.

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Speaker 3: No.

447
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: But we love the antacks, we love the heroes, we

448
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: love all that sort of stuff. And when you saw

449
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 1: and bed Robert Smith, just meet him. He's like a superhero.

450
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: He's seven foot tall, you know, and he was a

451
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: very articulate, charming guy.

452
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 2: And some of his other co soldiers, if that's the word,

453
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 2: spoke out against him and said this is what I

454
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Speaker 2: saw and it made me uncomfortable. So we like to

455
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: think that you're right, that our soldiers go and whatever

456
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: happens happens. But there is a very strict code of engagement,

457
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Speaker 2: and there has to be for us to remember in

458
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Speaker 2: post September eleven, when he said, how come they can

459
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Speaker 2: blow us up and we can't just go and do

460
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Speaker 2: the same, because we want to be better than that,

461
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Speaker 2: and we have a very strong rules of what our

462
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Speaker 2: engagement is. You cannot kill unarmed civilians. There's special names

463
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Speaker 2: for a civilian that has been captured that is shown

464
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Speaker 2: to not be an insurgent, etcetera, etcetera. There are thing checklists.

465
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Speaker 2: And the other soldiers knew it. They knew it, they behaved,

466
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Speaker 2: they knew where what their job was.

467
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Speaker 1: This you well appreciate as well. Over there, the soldiers

468
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: don't wear uniforms, and that's what the opposition. Yeah, this

469
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Speaker 1: opposition doesn't wear uniforms. So this is what Ben Robert

470
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Speaker 1: Smith was saying. When minute the kids, it's been a

471
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Speaker 1: translator helping you out. Next minute he's blowing up.

472
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Speaker 2: All of course, it's not easy and in the absolutely

473
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Speaker 2: and that's.

474
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Speaker 1: What we're going to talk to Chris Master's about because

475
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Speaker 1: he has researched this, he's put everything on there, so

476
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Speaker 1: it'll be an interesting chat, that's for sure.

477
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Speaker 3: Now.

478
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 4: And Amanda's we.

479
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Speaker 1: Gave away a thousand dollars yesterday. It can happen for

480
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: you today and then some you've got ten questions sixty

481
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Speaker 1: seconds on the clock. You can pass if you don't

482
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Speaker 1: know and answer, we'll come back to that question. If

483
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Speaker 1: time permits. If you get all the questions right one

484
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars.

485
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: Then we ask you another question. Do you want to

486
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: double your money? Want to play for two grand? One

487
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: more question? You can walk away with two grand or

488
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: walk away with nothing. That's what you have to think about.

489
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Speaker 1: What it's about. Michael's in Liverpool?

490
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Speaker 2: Hi, Michael, Hi, don't think in a mina? Hello now, Michael.

491
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Speaker 2: We have ten questions. We have sixty seconds. If you're

492
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Speaker 2: not sure, say passed, because usually we have time to

493
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Speaker 2: come back. Okay, Yes, let's see if we can get

494
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Speaker 2: you one thousand dollars for start. As you ready to start, Michael,

495
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Speaker 2: here we go. Question one? How many cents make a dollar?

496
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Speaker 6: One hundred?

497
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: Question two? Black and white combined makes? What color great?

498
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Speaker 2: Question three? What's the typical cheese that's part of a

499
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: cuprasy salad? Question four? What is a thermometer? Measure?

500
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Speaker 6: Tame chair?

501
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: Question five? True or false? Honey bees die after they sting?

502
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Speaker 4: True?

503
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: Question six? Mi Yorka is an island part of which country?

504
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: Question seven? What sport was Emily Sea bomb known for?

505
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: Question eight?

506
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: How many wheels does a tricycle have?

507
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Speaker 9: Pray?

508
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: Question nine? Sam Neil plays Alan Grant in which famous

509
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Speaker 2: movie franchise? Question ten, who's the Greek god at thunder?

510
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Speaker 2: Or oh no, zus zus Oh. Let's go back to

511
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Speaker 2: some of the ones you missed. There's a bit the

512
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Speaker 2: cheese in a cuprazy salad is mozzarella, Mi Yorker is

513
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Speaker 2: part of Spain and Sam Neil plays Alan Grant in

514
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Speaker 2: Jurassic Park. I'm sorry, Michael, you get a hundred bucks

515
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Speaker 2: for your groceries. Okay, thanks very much, Thanks Michael.

516
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Speaker 1: Maybe distracted by those pictures of hems Are and Hemsy

517
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Speaker 1: and els Are over in Spain.

518
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Speaker 8: What do you mean?

519
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Speaker 1: What do you see Hemsy and Elsa over in Spain

520
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Speaker 1: and their cosies? Really?

521
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Speaker 2: What page sit in the paper? Is it online? How

522
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Speaker 2: do I look better?

523
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: Have a look.

524
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Speaker 2: There was a story this morning that I think a

525
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: lot of parents can relate to. My mother contacted Virgin

526
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Speaker 2: Airlines to say she lost her child's teddy bear, a

527
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: very special teddy a gift from the kid's name is

528
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Archie lost his teddy on a Virgin flight and it

529
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: was from Archie's late grandfather. Was this gift so something

530
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: very special? You know what it's like with your kid?

531
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Speaker 2: They've lost their special something well, the airline went to

532
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Speaker 2: great lengths to find it.

533
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Speaker 11: Virgin cabin crew have gone to great lengths to reunite

534
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Speaker 11: a lost Teddy bear with its owner. They took ted

535
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Speaker 11: the teddy on quite an adventure through the plane from

536
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Speaker 11: business class to the cockpit, and of course posted his

537
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Speaker 11: escapades on social media to help find the owner. One

538
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Speaker 11: and a half year old Harry and his mum Kim

539
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Speaker 11: answering the court.

540
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Speaker 1: Nah, that's cute, it isn't it?

541
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Speaker 2: Very cute? Was his other story I saw too, just

542
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: on Instagram. This family they lost the bunny rabbit and

543
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: the daughter was just beside herself, And so the parents

544
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: said that the bunny had gone on a holiday with

545
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Speaker 2: the aunt and uncle, and postcards were saent. This is

546
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Speaker 2: why the parents were trying to buy some time. Because

547
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Speaker 2: it's Teddy. She knew it or the bunny. She knew

548
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Speaker 2: that it had a hole in its ear, she knew

549
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: it was a certain color, she knew what all the

550
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 2: stains were. So then there's footage of the parents cutting

551
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Speaker 2: hole in the ear of a new bunny. They had

552
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Speaker 2: to gone by, dyeing it in tea bags, rubbing it

553
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Speaker 2: in some dirt, trying to replicate the look in the feel.

554
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: And then the daughter gets a suitcase with the notes

555
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: from the teddy saying I've been on this fantastic holiday

556
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Speaker 2: and I really missed you. And she checked it for

557
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Speaker 2: the hole. She knew what she was looking for, and

558
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Speaker 2: then she could relax it.

559
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Speaker 1: Yes, that was her.

560
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Speaker 2: Teddy's crazy. It's exhausting. Did you have that with any

561
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Speaker 2: of your ca Yeah?

562
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And now it makes me think I'm not going

563
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Speaker 1: to give my kids anything.

564
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Speaker 2: Well, Teddy bed to a thirty year old would be odd.

565
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Speaker 1: I remember my youngest and his christening friends of ours

566
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Speaker 1: gave him a little Winnie the Pooh Bear. That was cute,

567
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: Little Winnie the poo Bear, and anyway, he had it.

568
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Speaker 1: One day, Helen and I kmart and there's a wall

569
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Speaker 1: of Pooh Winnie the Pooh bears exactly the same, and

570
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Speaker 1: I said, stuck up and we both looked at each

571
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Speaker 1: other sides. But you know what I'm thinking. So we're

572
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Speaker 1: like grabbing these like the COVID pandemic to stock up

573
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: on WINNI the talet paper very soft, So we ended

574
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Speaker 1: up just buying two. We should have bought more. So

575
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Speaker 1: we bought two and he had the one and we

576
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Speaker 1: kept the two stashed away. Anyway, he lost the one

577
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Speaker 1: and Helen gave him the new one, but he discovered

578
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Speaker 1: the other one as well, so we became a slave

579
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Speaker 1: to two pooh bears. So he didn't realize he'd lost

580
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Speaker 1: the one and then the two. So everywhere he went,

581
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Speaker 1: we're a slave.

582
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Speaker 2: And carrying two, carrying.

583
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: Two poo bears. Poo Bears traveled the earth. So when

584
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Speaker 1: I'm become a grandpa, I'm not going to get anything.

585
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Speaker 1: You know what I will, I'll give little grandkin an

586
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Speaker 1: anvil as an anvil, and make sure Dad brings that

587
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: with you. It's not your concern, I know, exactly, bring

588
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: the anvil.

589
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: My kids both had blankies, you know, and in the

590
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: end it was like just this tiny strip of ribbon

591
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: from the end of the blank keep cutting bits off,

592
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: oh so hard. And we've been at various airports and things.

593
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: Blank he's gone, and you think we cannot get on

594
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: that plane without that blanky. We had a cleaner go

595
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: through a bag and found it and they'd cleaned it

596
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: from the table and we had to get it back.

597
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: It's exhaust It's that ad. I like that ads for

598
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: when I was get out of town. Four will drive trucks,

599
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, and that little kid loses a rabbit and

600
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: the dad's going through a crack and then it demonstrates

601
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Speaker 1: how capable the four wheel drive is, and the dad's

602
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: doing that, and then they well, the mom finds it

603
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: in a bag and throws it into the and the

604
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: dead finds it and he's the hero.

605
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Speaker 2: I totally get well, Look, the tribal drum's going to

606
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: beat for this. I'm a slave to my kids. Stupid Toyoda.

607
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: The tribal drum's beating because it's a cute little story.

608
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: A little boy loses his beloved Teddy Bear. That's not

609
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: in Australia. Because the parents, what's not cute, that's the thing.

610
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: They go into panic mode. This had been a gift

611
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: from a late grandfather. And suddenly, oh no, we've left

612
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: it on the plane. There's no panic like that. We've

613
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 2: lost the security blanket, we've lost the toy whatever it is. Anyway,

614
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: it was found by staff. They took photos of it

615
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: in the cockpit having a great time, so that Teddy's

616
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: had an adventure been reunited with his owner.

617
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: But for every one of those stories, as and me,

618
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: and other stories of heartbreak, parents trying to fashion together

619
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Speaker 1: toys out of something.

620
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: To replicate the one that's been lost, the tribal.

621
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Speaker 1: Drummers beating for I was a slave to my kids.

622
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: Stupid toy.

623
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Speaker 2: Us, Tracy. What happened?

624
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Speaker 9: Well, my son, at the age of two was obsessed

625
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 9: with T shirt material and he used to walk along

626
00:29:54,360 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 9: touching everyone's T shirts, and so we got a little

627
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 9: T shirt out of from a collection and it became

628
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 9: his obsessive toy that everywhere he went that T shirt

629
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 9: had to go with him. So we got on a plane,

630
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Speaker 9: we went to Queen's Land to see family, and from

631
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 9: avel in the Gold Coast, and driving from the Gold

632
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 9: Coast up to Brisbane, he decided to hang it out

633
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Speaker 9: the window and it blew out the window on the highway.

634
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Speaker 9: Oh no, I couldn't stop to.

635
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: Get it.

636
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Speaker 9: Back, and we screamed and screened all the way to Brisbane,

637
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 9: all the way back from Brisbane and thank got us

638
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 9: in the suitcase. Back in the Gold Coast.

639
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 7: We had a little.

640
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Speaker 9: Backup T shirt, different color, but it still did the jobs.

641
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't have brought that T shirt out earlier.

642
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: Oh, you didn't have it with them screaming all the

643
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: way there. I know there's no anxiety like it. We've,

644
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: as I said, we've been at airports where and we'd

645
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: cut down a blanket to tiny little bits. Disappears. You

646
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: think we cannot face this flight without that blanket.

647
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: My nieces had this little cow. It was just called cow.

648
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: It was a little hand puppet called cow. But they

649
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: get this smell to them.

650
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, and you try and

651
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: wash them. But the kids liked to like the make

652
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: of it life. Yeah, it's hosting a show on Channel seven.

653
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Thank you. Tracy. Jason's joined us.

654
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: Hi Jason, Hi here.

655
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Speaker 6: You guys going right?

656
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: Well, what was lost?

657
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 6: It was my Koala that was lost. It was a

658
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 6: really expensive Koala and I remember leaving it in at

659
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 6: a change room somewhere with my mother. It was about

660
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 6: three or four and I was absolutely devastated. So my

661
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 6: mother drove hours to the zoo to get a replacement,

662
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 6: and she put it on our friend Veranda and pretended

663
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 6: to knock on the door. And I went out and

664
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Speaker 6: there was the koala, but it actually wasn't mi koala.

665
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Speaker 6: It was a new koala and I knew it wasn't

666
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Speaker 6: Mi koala, So I didn't want to have anything to

667
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 6: do with that's it.

668
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: So she'd gone to all that trouble.

669
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Speaker 6: And now I'm forty four years old, and she only

670
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 6: told me a couple of years ago the whole story.

671
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: Do you remember? Do you remember all the incident?

672
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 6: I can remember opening the door and going out onto

673
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 6: the verandah, and I can remember the panic of losing it.

674
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 6: But yeah, that's about it. Your poor mother calmly, because

675
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 6: my niece did exactly the same thing. And that's when

676
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 6: she told me she had this tiny, little raggedy doll

677
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 6: from from some shop somewhere and she would always lose it.

678
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 6: So my mother bought a whole heap of them as

679
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 6: a spare. She's obviously not as smart as me because

680
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 6: they just keep replacing them.

681
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: Yo, I don't start with an expensive toy. Whatever you do,

682
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: but imagine that your mother goes to all that trouble

683
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: and you go not mine.

684
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: Jason stood by his grand nop, No, not mine? How

685
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: could your mum that didn't bring that up either for

686
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: all those years?

687
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah a minute year old enough, and I berated you

688
00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: with it.

689
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: You be bringing up every five seconds? Thank you?

690
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: Jason Jonesy and Amanda podcast.

691
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: It is a lovely story. Little Archie has got on

692
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: a Virgin flight and he's left his teddy Bear behind

693
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: and Mum and dad are distraughed. Archie's obviously distraught.

694
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: That's right. Well, the it's found, The teddy Bear is found,

695
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: and the crew, the Virgin crew make a little Instagram

696
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: reel saying, oh, look, here we go. It's up in

697
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: the cockpit. Here it is. If this is your tender,

698
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: get in touch with us.

699
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm like an NRL player.

700
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: Everyone's been reunited, everybody's happened.

701
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: It's great. But for every story like that, there's always

702
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: horror stories. There's horror horror stories.

703
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: Things going missing, screaming children, parents trying to replicate lost

704
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: toys and the kids done.

705
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: Remember my daughter had that huge doll. It was a

706
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: life size plastic doll. It was when I said life size,

707
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: it was probably about three foot tour and had the

708
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: eyes that opened, and I was called she called it

709
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: Golden decents. So I was cumbersome and big, and she

710
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: wanted to take that everywhere, and it was plastic. He

711
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: couldn't fold it up again. And then she put it

712
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: around the house. I'd be on the way to work.

713
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: It's like my house was the Amateurville horror.

714
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: I bet well. Jack went through a phase of making

715
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: lego but wanting to take it with him. And imagine

716
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: carrying lego.

717
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: Remember I just had a place back. Don't mention the

718
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: X wing Fighter. Remember the X wing Fighter And Harley said,

719
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna glue it. I'm just gonna clo. That's right,

720
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: just gluing it together.

721
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: We should have because it was he would burst into

722
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: tears when bits would fall off, and is he's carrying

723
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: it across the street.

724
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Don't get me started on your boy and the death start.

725
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: I never completed that.

726
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: Leave him alone.

727
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: Mike has joined us. Mike is for me with the show.

728
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: He is the boss of WSFM, and he has joined

729
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: us right now, Mike, I've got to give you praise.

730
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: By the way. Oh well, I was on holidays and

731
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: Mum said, who's that guy on the I said, what

732
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: he meant? He sounds really good? His name it's Mike,

733
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: And I went Mike and she says, no, no, no,

734
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: it's Mike someone and I said, Mike Burns.

735
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: So my mum, Rachel, oh, well, you know, you know,

736
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: and we scraped the bottom of the barrel for the rosters.

737
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: When we lift the barrel up, that's where they find me.

738
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 3: So I appreciate the feedback.

739
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: That's why you became a program director.

740
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: Well, you know what they say, those who can't teach.

741
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: So, Mike, you've been hearing us talk about being slaves

742
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: to the kid's toys and this has stirred you to

743
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: call us.

744
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it reminded me of my daughter, Yasmin had

745
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 3: one of those Pound Puppies tot toys. It was given

746
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: to her by a great grandfather who passed away not

747
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: long after she was born. So it was a pretty

748
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: special toy for us, but was even more special for her.

749
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: She gave it the very creative name of Doggie, and

750
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: Doggie went absolutely everywhere, including to a family reunion we

751
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: had up in Dubbo at the I think it's the

752
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: Double Ex Services Club. Anyway, We've been to the family

753
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: reunion up on the top level in the auditorium. As

754
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: we're leaving, we discovered puppy is missing. Doggie is missing

755
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: from the pram. So I'm back at the car already.

756
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: The wife goes back into the club, sees another couple

757
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: young couple with another child in a pram with the

758
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: pound puppy absolutely evisceraates this couple just tears them to

759
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: shreds about stealing doggie. Of course, meanwhile, I've looked through

760
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: the car and found.

761
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: No. The good news is.

762
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: Doggie Doggie still live to fight another day, as twenty

763
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: seven still has dog.

764
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: Doggie Saran Doggie is still have that.

765
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: Other families in therapy.

766
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: And you're not married anymore, and you wonder why how

767
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: do you recover?

768
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: It?

769
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Says she just got how dare.

770
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 3: You absolutely ripped into them? I mean they looked exactly

771
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: the same. Of course they were all the same, but

772
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: it wasn't the same dog.

773
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: They only made two million of them exactly.

774
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's a very sphincter tightening story. Thank you.

775
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: So you can't win Man of the Match, Mike, but

776
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: oh thanks if you're a Dave Warner. Fanny hasn't been dropped.

777
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: Speculation we bespoke well speculation that he'll be dropped and

778
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: replaced with Mitch Marsh.

779
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: Speculation doesn't mean he's been dropped.

780
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: Pat Cummins, though apparently has done some bread crumbing, as

781
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: it's known talking about Jim Mitch marsh has been playing

782
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: so well and maybe you know he should be in

783
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: the team et cetera.

784
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: Could will that hell Pat Cummings.

785
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: Pat's captain?

786
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: All right, cricket. It's a lot to take.

787
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: But this is a big deal. So we're going to

788
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: put this to the pub test now Dave Warner has Now, let's.

789
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: Get down with the Jones and Manor Arts first.

790
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: Dave Warner has been struggling to find form in this

791
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: Ashes Test, struggling to score runs. He was dismissed six

792
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: times by the same bowler, Stuart Broad in the first

793
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: three Tests. He's hanging on really by a fingernail. But

794
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: he's very loyal to his teammates and there seems to

795
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: be a loyalty to him. But when this Ashes Test,

796
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: this Ashes series is so close, we've got one left,

797
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: they can even the ledger. Should he be in the team.

798
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: Some are saying it's disrespectful to say that he should go.

799
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: But he has lost confidence and form. People were saying

800
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: that this is when he's at his best. He's a

801
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: proven match winner and he can bounce back from adversity.

802
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: Can we afford, though, to have warning in the time.

803
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: As little as I know about cricket. I've often found

804
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: when heavery has the criticism, he comes back better because

805
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: it would be hard. When you're out there in the

806
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: middle of the field playing course game for hours on end.

807
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: A moment comes for every player, and when it's a

808
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 2: player who's been such a part of the Australian story

809
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: as David Warner has, you want them to be able

810
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: to choose when they go. But this is critical time

811
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: in an ASHES series. You know, does the decision have

812
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: to be made? What do you think? Let's do it,

813
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: Dave Warner, as he passed the pub test.

814
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you. Thirteen WSFM is our number.

815
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: Comcast.

816
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: I was talking yesterday. I was catching up on the

817
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: Marvel franchise and the John Wick franchise. At least I

818
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: can have more conversation with my adult children because millennials

819
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: seem to like the Marvel franchise and John Wick. Well

820
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: I had I didn't quite understand john Wick. I get it,

821
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: but it just there's a lot of killing. Yes, there's

822
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot of killing. And I ran that past Jim

823
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: Y Ryan. He said, yeah, that's all there is to it.

824
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: You get confused about it's just the currency system. Doesn't

825
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: work whatever.

826
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: That's such an old man's version.

827
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: He gets a coin and he'll give the coin to

828
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: a homeless guy to get information, and they'll get exactly

829
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: the same coin to a gun purveyor, and he'll buy

830
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: all these guns. I don't know much about guns, but

831
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: they'd be worth a bit of money, I imagine.

832
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: I don't think you know much about currency either.

833
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: Well, did they have their own currency? I just don't.

834
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't be an assassin for that reason.

835
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: If that came up in the meeting about the movie,

836
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: and they say, only an idiot would ask that, move on,

837
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: I've got more important fish to fry.

838
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you about idiots.

839
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: Well, while you were doing all that, as I said,

840
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: I had the house to myself weekend, and I've always

841
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: wanted to watch the Outlander series. I'm ten years late.

842
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: It's up to series seven now.

843
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: My wife was watching it some time ago, and whenever

844
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: it was me and for some reason my youngest son

845
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: would walk into the room, it would be in the

846
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: middle of some horrendous sex scene and we don order

847
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: to stand there.

848
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: And go, oh great, it's not horrendous, it's amazing. And anyway,

849
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: me talking about it yesterday about how I swooned for

850
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: three days over Sam Ewan, who was the actor who

851
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: plays Jamie. I'd read the book and swooned through the book,

852
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: but to have it come to life when you.

853
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: Say swoon, what does what does that mean?

854
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: Do you not know what what swoon means?

855
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: But it's an old style word. I don't think no

856
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: one's used that since.

857
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: The forty People know when you see Jamie in this series,

858
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 2: what's swoon? What's when your heart beats a bit fast,

859
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 2: you get a bit sweaty and breathless, and you go, oh,

860
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed. I think it's that. Well,

861
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: my palms are sweating just thinking about it.

862
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: Now, today's variant be a swoon.

863
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: Four. Have the hot four readable the margarit.

864
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 10: You know.

865
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 2: The interesting thing is I've been in undated with people

866
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: contacting me via DMS or on our socials saying, well,

867
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: welcome to the party, pal duh. And I'm a little

868
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: disappointed that I'm not the only person who's vying for

869
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: his affections now. Lots of people who knew have been

870
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: in love with him for many, many years. Here I

871
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: am practicing my new signature for my pencil case, and

872
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: he's got other women after him. It's outrageous. But I've

873
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: been sent memes. I've been sent photos of people at

874
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: the actual tourist sites. You can go there and stand

875
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: at the stones, put your hands on the stone and

876
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: will yourself to go through to the seventeenth century. I

877
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: would have issues with their plumbing. That's one thing that

878
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: would get in the way of me starting a new

879
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: life with him in the seventeen hundreds is the plumbing.

880
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: It's a lot of stinky armpits, a.

881
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: Lot of stinky lot of outdoor toileting, lots of castles

882
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: that are cold with bad toilets as well, but all

883
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: comes down to the toilets.

884
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: For me, that would have to be a terrible time

885
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: traveler for that reason.

886
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: For that very reason. But then people have been sending photos.

887
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: I've gone down the wormhole of a thousand websites and

888
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: photos and this and that, and I've become a teenager.

889
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to get pimples before you know it. So

890
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm part of an interesting group of people who've been

891
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: in love with him for many years. And now there's

892
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: six seasons left to go. The new season seven has

893
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: just dropped, and I'm going to have to, I don't know,

894
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: find somewhere where I can go just to watch it.

895
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: Are there clubs? So they're clubs you can get into

896
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: and just say Outlander at the door and they let

897
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: you in, and you drink a whiskey and you use

898
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: some terrible toilet and you pretend that you're back there

899
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: and you can watch it. If that club doesn't exist,

900
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to start it.

901
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: I think there's many clubs like that in the city,

902
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: just quietly they're open. Now I'm gone.

903
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: I wanted to get on right now.

904
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 7: I'm your windows.

905
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: Yell Dan when you jonesy demand of answer the pub Test?

906
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Dave Warner does he pass the pub Test?

907
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: Speculation this morning that Mitch marsh might take his place

908
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: up the order, might be dropped from the final Test.

909
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: In the Ashes, he's been struggling to score runs, dismissed

910
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: six times by the same bowlist Stuart Broad in the

911
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: first three Tests. He's a very integral part of Australian

912
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: culture and the Australian cricket team, but he's not on form.

913
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: When should he go? So we're asking this morning, Dave

914
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: Warner does he passed the pub.

915
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: Test irre beccis of who you are if you are

916
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: a filming. He shouldn't be named in the team and

917
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: it isn't fair to the teammates who are in form.

918
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: He plays well when he's in his own country, otherwise

919
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: he should be dropped when he's played in the national

920
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: in the perform No, he doesn't part subjects.

921
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 6: He should have been gone on lego that you know

922
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 6: for an opening in Batsman to score polistic its not

923
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 6: really not looking in idioms for a long time.

924
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 5: So I think you can go.

925
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 4: I think they should have planness and Cowaja is openers

926
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: and then someone else in the.

927
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 7: Days are polarizing figure, but he's a legend in Australian

928
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 7: cricket and I think we should keep him.

929
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: Saved this so many times, keep kay, that's my opinion.

930
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 6: We leeve a locating cricket.

931
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: There you go. Thank you for all your calls.

932
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: Well, our newsroom will keep you informed all day about

933
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: what's going to happen.

934
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: I know we announced that he was dropped from the side.

935
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: Earlier, but the party's speculation.

936
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: Rebulation speculate he's not dropped.

937
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: No podcast, So Chris Masters is going to be joining

938
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: us next Chris is one of Australia's most prestigious journalists.

939
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Is Walkley Award winner. He's written a book called Flawed Hero, Truth,

940
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: Lies and War Crimes. This is about Victoria Ross Victoria

941
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: Cross recipient Ben Robert Smith, and Chris Masters was one

942
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Speaker 2: of the journalists. There was also Nick mackenzie and David

943
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: Rowe who wrote a series of articles and television programs

944
00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: about the behavior of ken of Ben Robert Smith in Afghanistan.

945
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: So basically they published a series of reports that accused

946
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: him of war crimes. This included killing unarmed civilians, ordering

947
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: subordinates to execute prisoners, planning weapons on dead bodies, to

948
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: fake combat deaths. Ben Robert Smith called a defamation trial.

949
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: He wanted to defend his good name against these accusations.

950
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: The trial went on for ages and it's only about

951
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: a month ago that it wrapped up and the finding

952
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: from Justice Anthony Pisanko was the judgment was that yes,

953
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: these articles were able to prove that these things were true.

954
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 2: So this isn't a criminal case. This is a defamation

955
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: case that Ben Robert Smith called himself. But what has

956
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 2: happened is that the journalists have been shown to be correct.

957
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: It's been many opinions about this. You can go anywhere

958
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: in this country and talk about it and people will

959
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: have an opinion. I've spoken to soldiers, I've spoken my wife.

960
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: For example, we had a heated argument when we're over

961
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: in Berlin about this. You know, we were just talking,

962
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: said Helen said, why don't they just leave it be?

963
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: And I said, well, if you read the fact about it,

964
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of scary. I was on that mine. We

965
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: spoke to Ben Roberts Smith on our show when he

966
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: got the VC, and I found him incredibly impressive. The

967
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: guy six foot seven. He is a hero. He's everything

968
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: that we want in our hero. But unfortunately there's a

969
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: few stories there that don't add up.

970
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: And what's hard for us to understand is that there

971
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: are rules of engagement in war, which does seem crazy,

972
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: is that we do have right and wrong on a battlefield.

973
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: And he's been accused of and found through this trial

974
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: that those accusations are right, that he stepped over the

975
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: line and breached our code of ethics and was unlawful

976
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: as a soldier. You know what this is like the

977
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: Gladys Spuragically and Eyekac investigation. She was found to be

978
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: corrupt and a liar, and many people don't want to

979
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: believe that because I liked Gladys spuragically and she got

980
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: us through the COVID months the years by being strong

981
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: for us. But this instigation, the IKA investigation, showed that

982
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: she acted in a corrupt manner and lied to her colleagues,

983
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: lied to the public. She lied in the way that

984
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: she covered up this relationship that would have that was

985
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: compromising her and people don't want to hear it.

986
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: But this is what The laws are hard. The laws

987
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: are hard. Do you know many dodgy people.

988
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if I do like I know dodgy

989
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: people like but you're not a premier.

990
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: No.

991
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: But in my life, I know I've got a you know,

992
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: I've got mates have gone to jail if I knew

993
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: about that. In Australia, if you have got a mate

994
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: that's doing something bad and you know about it, you

995
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: are an accessory to the fact. So what are you

996
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: going to do? You're going to write your mate out?

997
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: This is the hard thing. This is the life we know.

998
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying to I know it's different, but

999
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: in Australia, and I'm not defending anything. I'm just saying

1000
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: how hard it is to get past the Ben Robert

1001
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: Smith thing. For me particularly, I just I thought, wow,

1002
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 1: you know, I just I wish this would go away.

1003
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: And I think that's what everyone thinks. A lot of

1004
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: these souldiers are comfortable that argies I wish this would.

1005
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: Go away, and other soldiers who stood alongside and said,

1006
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: hang on, I'm doing the right thing. That guy isn't.

1007
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: This makes me very uncomfortable.

1008
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: So that's.

1009
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: Whether we want it or not. These are the truths. Anyway,

1010
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: we're going to talk next. It's an incredible book that

1011
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: Chris Masters has.

1012
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: When you can read this book, I've been reading it.

1013
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: Well, we can ask him, you know what about people

1014
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: who say leave it on the battlefield.

1015
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: Let's you know.

1016
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: Anyway, we're going to be talking to him next.

1017
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: Chris Masters joining us next is fourteen past eight.

1018
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: Victoria Cross recipient Ben Robert Smith was one of the

1019
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: most highly decorated Australian soldiers. While he was being celebrated

1020
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: in the public eye, rumors and allegations of war crimes

1021
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: were being investigated in the background. Our next guest heard

1022
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: the rumors before we did. Award winning journalists Chris Masters

1023
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: is one of the first to start an investigation into

1024
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: Robert Smith, and it's led to a new book called

1025
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: Flawed Hero, Truth, Lies and War Crimes. To tell us

1026
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: about that, Chris Masters, Hello.

1027
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: There, Hey, Chris. It's a hell of a book. It's

1028
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: a brave undertaking.

1029
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 7: It took a long time. Yeah, I mean, obviously there

1030
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 7: wouldn't be a book if we hadn't had the outcome

1031
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 7: that we had. But before the book came one hundred

1032
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 7: and ten days of court sittings and a judgment by

1033
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 7: a seven hundred page judgment by Justice Pasanco. And I'm

1034
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 7: really relieved enormously that, you know, his judgment on what

1035
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 7: occurred was pretty much parallel with ours.

1036
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: When did you first start to hear rumors about Ben

1037
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: Roberts Smith and some of his behavior overseas?

1038
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 7: I embedded with Special Forces. I'm the only journalist to

1039
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 7: have ever done so with Australian Special Forces in twenty eleven.

1040
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 7: I suppose I started hearing this.

1041
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: I know it.

1042
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 7: By twenty twelve his name was coming up as a

1043
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 7: controversial figure, not a war criminal. And look, you know, Amanda,

1044
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 7: I didn't take that much notice of it, because, oddly enough,

1045
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 7: even though Matship is supposedly such a profound force in

1046
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 7: the Australian defense community, there's a lot of bitching too,

1047
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 7: particularly in special forces. You know, they're the warrior elite

1048
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 7: and they're the sort of the A graders, so they

1049
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 7: tend to be very competitive. What I heard was that

1050
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 7: Ben was a bully and not necessarily always a pleasant blow,

1051
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 7: but that didn't mean that he was a war criminal.

1052
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 7: And soldiers, specially special forces soldiers have to be tough,

1053
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 7: have to be hard, have to be brutal to some degree.

1054
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 7: So you know, that wasn't such a surprise. It really

1055
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 7: wasn't until I got into an argument with him, if

1056
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 7: you like, about an incident that occurred in two thousand

1057
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 7: and six, only because I started to hear competing accounts

1058
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 7: of the action that won him a medal for gallantry

1059
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 7: and I had to put some question to him, and

1060
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 7: really it went from there.

1061
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: Wow, Because most Australians and myself included, we interviewed Ben

1062
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Roberts Smith, I think at the time when he got

1063
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: the Victoria Cross, and we were just impressed with him.

1064
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: It was almost like it's like Superman suddenly turning out

1065
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: to be not such a Superman.

1066
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I was too jonesy, I thought, you know,

1067
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 7: when I first met him, I remember, well I met

1068
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 7: him a few times, but we had this interview that

1069
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 7: went on for two hours, and I made a note

1070
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 7: at the time. For the first hour he reasoned, and

1071
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 7: for the second hour he ranted. I mean, he can

1072
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 7: put on that statesman like visage where he gets the

1073
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 7: words right. You know, he comes from an esteemed family,

1074
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 7: he went to a private school. He had a serious job,

1075
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 7: you know, he was the managing director of Channel seven

1076
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 7: in Queensland, so he could put on an impressive face.

1077
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 7: He did so in court as well. But after a

1078
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 7: while it's it's that thing about truth, you know, it's

1079
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 7: quite punishing. And after a while, if you kept hitting

1080
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 7: him with alternative facts, then that facade started to weaken.

1081
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: What do you say, Christ, people who say we can

1082
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: never understand what happens on the fields of war, it's

1083
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: not our place to judge these actions and we should

1084
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: leave well enough alone.

1085
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 7: Well, in the Second World War, when Japanese soldiers were

1086
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 7: bayoneting our soldiers to death, our prisoners on the Burma

1087
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 7: rail we didn't think much of that. You know, when

1088
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 7: sister Vivian Bullwinkle was machine gun to death by the Japanese.

1089
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 7: We didn't think much of that. You know, we fought

1090
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 7: against that kind of conduct. You know, we condemned the

1091
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 7: Nazis for killing civilians. But why is it different of

1092
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 7: Australians to it. You know, that proposition that if they're

1093
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 7: wearing an Australian uniform it's not a war crime has

1094
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 7: never sat well with me. And look, it doesn't really

1095
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 7: sit well with the image of the Australian soldier either.

1096
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Speaker 7: I mean, the rules of war are pretty clear, you know,

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00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 7: you don't kill non combatants. Certainly it's a messy business

1098
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 7: and certainly mistakes are made. But one of the things

1099
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 7: we tried to make clear all the way through and

1100
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 7: still having the argument to this day, is that the

1101
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 7: matters that we dealt with were never fog of war

1102
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 7: heat of the moment things. They were we alleged outright

1103
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 7: callous murders. And it wasn't just morally wrong, it was

1104
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 7: strategically wrong. You know, whenever this sort of thing happened

1105
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 7: in Afghanistan, it turned the local population against us.

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00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: Ben Robert Smith has steadfastly denied this and said this

1107
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: is what is all about war. So he's never going

1108
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: to come around and say, oh, okay, you got me.

1109
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 7: No, he's not. No, And of course it is true

1110
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 7: to say that this has not been demonstrated to a

1111
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 7: criminal standard. This was a civil court action. It wasn't

1112
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 7: so much about it wasn't a war crimes trial as

1113
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 7: much as it was a trial, a defamation trial. It

1114
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 7: was about whether we could truthfully support what we had

1115
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 7: asserted and will.

1116
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: This lead to further recriminations for Ben?

1117
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 7: Yes, I mean there's a long way to go. There's

1118
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 7: the Office of the Special Investigator was set up after

1119
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 7: the Breton Inquiry to look into not just allegations involving

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00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 7: Ben Robert Smith, but also other soldiers as well, and

1121
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 7: there's a prosecution about to begin with one of those matters.

1122
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 7: As far as Ben's concerned, there will be an appeal process,

1123
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 7: we presume. We don't know for sure whether he will appeal,

1124
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 7: but we'll know within a week or so. And beyond

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00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 7: that there are prospective criminal charges.

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00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: Wow, if Ben Robert Smith was a good bloke, do

1127
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: you think he would have got away with this?

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00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 7: That's a good question, you know. I think in a way,

1129
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 7: there's a damn good chance he would have. I mean,

1130
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 7: one of the reasons that those soldiers turned against him

1131
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 7: was they didn't think he was a good bloke. They

1132
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 7: were actually quite angry at the impact that Ben had

1133
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 7: on so many of their brothers, you know, particularly the

1134
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 7: younger ones. As one of them said to me, Look,

1135
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 7: I don't mind him pushing a dirt farmer to his

1136
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 7: knees and blowing his brains out if he does it himself,

1137
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 7: but he was bullying other younger soldiers into doing it,

1138
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 7: and it was their consciences that couldn't cope.

1139
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, Chris, it's a fascinating read. Flawed Hero, Truth,

1140
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: Lies and War Crimes goes on sale from Wednesday at

1141
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: all Good bookstores. Chris Masters, thank you for joining us.

1142
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Speaker 7: Thank you.

1143
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: Jonesy and Amanda podcast.

1144
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 6: Classed off for Kicksville.

1145
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: Floods of people or one person came up to me

1146
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: the other day and said, how's gem y Rysmobile going.

1147
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: You remember before we got on holidays, jim y Rye

1148
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: blew his car up forgot to put oil in it.

1149
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, borring his dad's car, so his dad

1150
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 2: had to take the bus.

1151
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: Then we you know, just for a few people, a

1152
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: few connections. Guido came to see a good friend of

1153
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: the show. He said, look I tell you I got there.

1154
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: Look up to the kid. I got this car. We

1155
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: got the car off Guido for tax purposes and a

1156
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: bit of a stir of gem y rye. What do

1157
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: we do to the car?

1158
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: You made it hideous? Well, we did put decals of

1159
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: our faces on it, and on the back it says

1160
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: honk if you like Jonesy and a man, And it's everywhere.

1161
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 2: It's down the sides of the car.

1162
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: And it's on the furious riding you see the phot

1163
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: it's so good. Excuse me, he's good a name.

1164
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: How do you feel driving around? Because if you're inside

1165
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: the car, you're not aware of how you look. But

1166
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: do people let you know? I've had people like pointing

1167
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: and laughing and just making fun of it.

1168
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 11: I did get a honk the other day, but then

1169
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 11: I realized it was because the light went.

1170
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: On.

1171
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: So we can't ascitate if they like this. Yeah, so

1172
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: they haven't really been getting many honks. No, OK, And

1173
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: I'll just ask. I don't want to be boring, but

1174
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: what are we doing with the insurance and stuff on it?

1175
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: Because I just have a concern because you couldn't put

1176
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: oil in your last car? Just have you got? Is

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00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: it insured? Because I just realized this could bite us

1178
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: on the bun.

1179
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: Did we insure it?

1180
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if it's did you

1181
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: not insure it?

1182
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: I think?

1183
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: Going on with you, boss, Lady Millie's nodding her head.

1184
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: It's insured, comprehensive or third party?

1185
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: What's the div.

1186
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: So third party is if he backs into Carl Sandler's

1187
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: Rolls Royce down in the car park, we don't have

1188
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: to come up with three million dollars to fix it.

1189
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: Comprehensive is if someone sets fire to it, then we

1190
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: get the money back for the car. And there's a

1191
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: good chance that that could happen. But if it's third

1192
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: party and someone says fire to it, it's we're not

1193
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: going to get anything.

1194
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: And what is your basic red Joe cover and your

1195
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: green slip stuff?

1196
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: Well, your red jo covers your red Joe, your green

1197
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: slip covers your green slip?

1198
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: What use what's the green slip? The green I have

1199
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: no life skills.

1200
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: So Geny riding driving the road and runs you over

1201
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: by an accident, then your medical bills are covered.

1202
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: So the green slips for people, and the third party

1203
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: is for vehicles.

1204
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: What's the pink slip?

1205
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: Then, what's a pink slip?

1206
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: You got to get those once every year. This is

1207
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: too hard. It's too hard. I agree to explain this

1208
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: to Ryan, explaining it to you.

1209
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't understand that stuff at all.

1210
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: Do you guys do all that? Why is this going

1211
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: to bite us on the bum? I just have this feeling.

1212
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Don't look at me.

1213
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't understand it either.

1214
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: I must say it was hard to decline the invitation

1215
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: for the latest Tom Cruise mission impossible franchise. I wanted

1216
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: to go and see that, and go to the red

1217
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: carpet and do all that sort of stuff. And then

1218
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: I was reading this story we were away. We couldn't. No,

1219
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: I just chose to sit at home and need a

1220
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: lamb roast.

1221
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: I think I might. What do you red carpets make

1222
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: me anxious?

1223
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 4: No?

1224
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: But you go along.

1225
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: There's Tom there, it's all you know, vibing out, and

1226
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: there's Kerry Hands there, everyone's there, Richard Wilkins, the gang's.

1227
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: All, gang is all there, Bredom.

1228
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: But you might have missed this story that's come out.

1229
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: It's in the woman's day, So it's it's gospel to me.

1230
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: Tom veted our vito, the vip red carpety thing for

1231
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: a mission impossible.

1232
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: He vetoed it.

1233
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: He had a look at it, veted it then anyway,

1234
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: he had a look at it and said, who's in

1235
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: and who's out? So you and I were in. You know,

1236
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: it was out.

1237
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: Pet was out our pet Peter Overton p.

1238
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: D because you remember years ago with the interview on

1239
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: sixty minutes, and that was back in two thousand and five.

1240
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: What happened He had the interview and he asked about what.

1241
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: Was Peter asking? That made him?

1242
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: He said to Tom about what you would say that

1243
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: Nicole was the love of your life.

1244
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: They've broken up long before that, fore, but Pete.

1245
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: Just asked that, and Tom's heir, Peter put your manners

1246
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: back in.

1247
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that became one of those iconic six phrases

1248
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: in like, please explain. They love that at sixty minutes

1249
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: at sixty so they call it these phrases that go viral.

1250
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1251
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: You know why though, that Peter Overton grew up next

1252
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: door to Nicole Kidman. Yeah, I know that, yes, So

1253
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: there's probably a lot of history there of Peter asking

1254
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: the question about his love for Nicole because they they're

1255
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: neighbors of Nicole, they grew up together. They would know

1256
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: Nicole very well. They probably met Tom a number of times,

1257
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 2: and then that relationship ends and he's Peter knowing all

1258
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: the bodies are buried. Do I need interview with sixty minutes?

1259
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 3: No?

1260
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: But I mean he knows that he would. He'd have

1261
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: an insiders view as to you know, yeah, what happened.

1262
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: And I can almost see for Tom's perspective. You know,

1263
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: the Red Carpet premiere, everyone's there, Richard Wilkins, Kerry, Ane Kennelly,

1264
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: although he would know where's that Jonesy Johnsy where? You know,

1265
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: he's not there, But he would have thought, you know,

1266
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: there's Pete hogging all the because all the journalists would

1267
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: be gone on, hang on this Pete, what's going to happen?

1268
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: He's so charismatic, Tom Cruise, isn't he remember I met

1269
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: him on the project that time I shave in my head.

1270
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: I took along something that you had bought on eBay,

1271
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: which was his face that they made the mold for

1272
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 2: the mask for a mission if possible, and I showed

1273
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: it to him and he pretended to be outraged, but

1274
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: you couldn't tell whether it was real. And I pretended

1275
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: to be outraged and said that's illegal. And then he

1276
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: laughed and I said, I kiss it every night.

1277
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: Carry and Carrie Bickmock she said to me that Tom

1278
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: Cruise checked you out.

1279
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: Yes, well that's what she said to me too. But

1280
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if I could have the

1281
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: scientology life.

1282
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. And that's the other thing about

1283
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: when you've got Tom Cruise in your life. And Simon Pegg,

1284
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: who's in the mission part of him franchise, he was

1285
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: asked about his relationship with Tom Cruise, and that's what

1286
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:43,439
Speaker 1: he said.

1287
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: It's always been a very easy relationship.

1288
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 12: I think you realize when you meet the person rather

1289
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 12: than the thicket of mythology that's built up around them.

1290
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 12: You know, it's a different experience. My relationship with him

1291
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 12: is very, very simple and amiable with friends.

1292
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: He also went on to say that they went helicopter

1293
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: trail bike in adventuring see if you want all that

1294
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: cool stuff, and even Tom Cruise play his own a

1295
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: mission on that day said to Simon Peg, it's a

1296
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: bit of a Tom Cruise. Even Tom Cruise said that.

1297
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: I remember we spoke to Jennifer Connelly who was in Maverick.

1298
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: Remember she said, this even you feel Wow.

1299
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm Tom Cruise.

1300
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: Is somebody filming this, someone filming a camera, so I

1301
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:31,959
Speaker 1: just keep a piehole shot.

1302
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: He's very charismatic, isn't he. But as those people say,

1303
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: you take the bit of Tom that suits you and

1304
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: you just leave that other stuff.

1305
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: I want the helicopter and trail biking part of Tom

1306
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: if I could, and I'll just.

1307
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: Take the plaster face that I can kiss in my

1308
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: own time. You never gave that back either when I

1309
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: said to him, because he was he was promoting the

1310
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: movie The Mummy. The Mummy remember it was about the apocalypse.

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Speaker 2: Kind of stuffy, yeah, And I was just chatting to

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Speaker 2: him in the green room and I said that rat scene.

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Speaker 2: I said, what's your thing? You know, because you're someone

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Speaker 2: characters have rats. And he said, in real life he

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Speaker 2: doesn't have a thing. He's this is prop that's part

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Speaker 2: of the religion. But he's impervious to the fear. No,

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Speaker 2: he said, he likes fear, but he doesn't like I said,

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Speaker 2: what's your thing? Is it rats?

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Speaker 1: Is it high?

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Speaker 2: He said he didn't have.

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Speaker 1: A thing about show vulneratilated women with plaster casts of

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Speaker 1: his face.

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Speaker 2: That was his only vulnerability.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't resist me. It's your teeth.

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Speaker 2: Imagine winging twenty thousand dollars cash just for having a

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Speaker 2: wings That's what you can do with gets my gholies.

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Speaker 2: Our favorite gooolie of the year will win twenty grand

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Speaker 2: Download the iHeartRadio app. Got a WSFM press the microphone

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Speaker 2: record your ghoulie? What have we got hey, James and Amanda?

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Speaker 2: What gets my goolies?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: This has sound effects.

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Speaker 1: This will help you out.

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Speaker 11: That is my lazy ass husband who leaves every one

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Speaker 11: of his drawers open by about five centimeters?

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Speaker 2: How effing hard is it to close a drawer? Let

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Speaker 2: me show you that gets my goolies. It doesn't take

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Speaker 2: much to wine people up in a relationship like that.

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Speaker 1: You come home as like the kitchen in the sixth sense,

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Speaker 1: maybe and all the cupboards are open.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that she's blaming her lazy ass husband?

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Speaker 2: But maybe the read is possessed? Have you thought about that?

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Speaker 1: A take with that? What you will? What else have

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Speaker 1: we got?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 9: It gets my goolies?

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Speaker 5: Fake mom videos on Instagram. You know, the ones with

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Speaker 5: the perfect hair and makeup, go up an.

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Speaker 11: Hour before their kids, do a let a washing, have

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Speaker 11: a green smooth instead of a coffee, do a workout,

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Speaker 11: read a book, cook breakfast, and then we've got little

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Speaker 11: angels when in reality, the rest of.

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Speaker 6: Us wake up to a screaming baby.

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Speaker 3: Haven't Sheldon days, don't ask the last time I washed

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Speaker 3: my hair, do the sniff test before picking out clothes.

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Speaker 2: Run around like a mad woman, getting a roun ready,

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Speaker 2: and still be late for work in school? Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: I just don't want to feel bad about that. Don't

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Speaker 2: you feel bad about it?

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Speaker 1: Don't?

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Speaker 2: Because that is the reality.

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Speaker 1: You should do most people being terrible and post that

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Speaker 1: on in I think a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of people do. I think they post here's the

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Speaker 2: reality of how it actually is. Take off the life

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Speaker 2: filter because that does make us judge ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and the hardest.

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Speaker 2: Judge of oneself is themselvesicularly when it comes to mothering.

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Speaker 1: But the bad him of the good. If you do

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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. You download the iHeartRadio app, go to WSFM,

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Speaker 1: press the microphone record you're GHOULI It's four to nine.

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Speaker 2: My favorite car email or Facebook friend wins dinner at

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Speaker 2: Hojiak Town Hall to the value of three hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: Hojiak town Hall is Sydney's only chef had a Malaysian

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Speaker 2: restaurant come so highly recommend it.

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Speaker 1: You're also get a Jones you demand of tetowel and

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Speaker 1: an eighteenth birthday key ring.

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Speaker 2: All over the news this morning. A teddy that was

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Speaker 2: lost on a flight from Sydney, A teddy bear not

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Speaker 2: a lady's really underwear has been still wet.

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Speaker 1: Is that a thing? I think so?

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Speaker 2: I measure for though looking for that teddy and a husband,

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Speaker 2: a man saying, oh no, no, it didn't come out

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Speaker 2: of my brows.

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Speaker 1: How what's your name on it? Jeeth So.

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Speaker 2: Finally the airline founded that Teddy has been reunited with

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Speaker 2: its owner, but the tribal dron was beating for I'm

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Speaker 2: a slave to my kid's stupid toy.

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Speaker 1: Here's Tracy from Maruba.

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Speaker 9: My son, at the age of two, was obsessed with

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Speaker 9: t shirt material. We got on a plane, we went

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Speaker 9: to Queen's Land to see family, and driving from the

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Speaker 9: Gold Coast up to Brisbane, he decided to hang it

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Speaker 9: out the window and it blew out the window on

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Speaker 9: the highway.

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Speaker 2: So the kids screamed all the way up the highway

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Speaker 2: all the way back. There's no way they could stop

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Speaker 2: and look for it. Horrendous. Quite the dedication for the

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Speaker 2: kid though, good set of lungs Friday.

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Speaker 5: Yet that's enough.

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Speaker 2: song we play on our show between six and nine

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Speaker 2: see if one of them gets repeated.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back from six tonight for jam nation.

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Speaker 2: See you then, good day to you.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank god that's over.

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Speaker 9: Good bite, good bite, wipe the two.

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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