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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with today's show, Gid Apeter, Hell are you here?
Speaker 1: Welcome to you Ain't Seen Nothing Yet the Movie Podcast,
Speaker 1: where I chat to a movie lover about a classic
Speaker 1: or but loved movie they haven't quite got around to
Speaker 1: watching until now. And today's guest comedian Daniel Connell.
Speaker 3: The first rule of play club is you do not
Speaker 3: talk about fake club.
Speaker 4: No, it was your fred up.
Speaker 5: You broke my heart. I admire your luck, mister Bond,
Speaker 5: James Bond.
Speaker 6: Nothing New.
Speaker 1: Daniel Connell is one of the funniest and busiest comedians
Speaker 1: working the Australian comedy circuit today, announcing himself in Canberra's
Speaker 1: Green Faces all the way back in two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: placing third nationally. Dan was driven to further his comedy
Speaker 1: career and moved to Melbourne in twenty ten and really
Speaker 1: went to work building his audience with his laconic aff
Speaker 1: of and beautifully crafted routines.
Speaker 2: Daniel is much loved.
Speaker 1: And respected by fellow comics and his audience is getting
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger year on year. Recent shows such as
Speaker 1: a Bit of Shush I've had a Flare Up, as
Speaker 1: well as a few ripping Melbourne International Comedy Festival Galas
Speaker 1: has seen his reputation and status grow and grow. His
Speaker 1: recent live show Gutlass Wonder. He's winning rave reviews and
Speaker 1: he's churing around the country. Dan has also written on
Speaker 1: the project He's laid back, talented and hilarious and I
Speaker 1: get the feeling his comedy assent has only just begun.
Speaker 1: So I'm bloody stokes to be hanging with him today.
Speaker 6: Today. My name is Daniel Corral. My three favorite films
Speaker 6: are Beetlejuice.
Speaker 5: Well, if you are a real ghost, you guys better
Speaker 5: get another routine.
Speaker 6: Because those sheets.
Speaker 5: You don't work.
Speaker 6: Batman, where are you? I'm Batman and fury?
Speaker 4: Hey start sorry when I shoot at the nazis done.
Speaker 6: And up until last night, I hadn't seen the film
Speaker 6: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas did get worn?
Speaker 3: I have thought so.
Speaker 7: Long?
Speaker 2: Is their only pay?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 1: And that was Bill Murray from the film Lost in Translation,
Speaker 1: which you may recognize, and you may be going, hang
Speaker 1: on a second, didn't dance and your Connell just say
Speaker 1: his favorite film was Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: Well, we have our first incident.
Speaker 1: You ain't seen nothing yet, Dan Connor, Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 6: Thanks Pete. It's lovely to be here.
Speaker 1: Something dawned on you as we're preparing to go live.
Speaker 1: And I think I mentioned the film Lost in Translation
Speaker 1: because that was the film we had agreed to talk
Speaker 1: about over some messages.
Speaker 2: And what dawned on you?
Speaker 6: First of all, I came here. I got bad traffic
Speaker 6: on the way here. I got a little bit late.
Speaker 6: I was feeling terrible. I've kept them waiting. I've got
Speaker 6: to make up for this. Pete's got his notes out
Speaker 6: in front. I've got my notes in my phone. Pete,
Speaker 6: mentions the film Lost in Translation, and my heart skipped
Speaker 6: a beat. I was like, did he just say Fear
Speaker 6: and Loathing? He said Lost Translation? And I quickly checked
Speaker 6: our messages while you were just writing some notes, and
Speaker 6: I noticed that you said we should watch Lost in Translation.
Speaker 6: And on the list that I set you above, that
Speaker 6: is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. And I just
Speaker 6: saw that, and I went and I watched Clothing in
Speaker 6: Las Vegas for three ninety nine on YouTube, and I
Speaker 6: have all my notes on Fear and Loathing on Las Vegas,
Speaker 6: and I saw, I saw. I saw Lost in Translation
Speaker 6: probably four fifteen years ago. But yeah, that's where we
Speaker 6: see both.
Speaker 1: Both movies involve hotels and you know, big, unique kind
Speaker 1: of cities. Let's you know what I said to you, Afair,
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for somebody, a guest, to come along.
Speaker 1: There's always a little bit of nervousness. It's kind of
Speaker 1: gone away recently. I have to say, well, you know,
Speaker 1: people are kind of across the concept now. But the
Speaker 1: idea that somebody would come to me and say, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna watch the movie after we speak,
Speaker 1: which doesn't really make sense. But I've been kind of
Speaker 1: waiting in a weird way for that to happen. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about your three favorite films, and then we'll come
Speaker 1: back and work out what the fuck we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about, because you have judgment thankfully three films that
Speaker 1: I have seen and that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2: Let's start with Beetlejuice with Nate Velvo.
Speaker 1: Actually watched this for the first time on this podcast,
Speaker 1: and that was actually, I think the first time I
Speaker 1: had seen it too fun fever, Yeah yeah, really, yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah. For me, it's because it's a childhood memory
Speaker 6: and I still we've probably seen it in the last
Speaker 6: five years just to see what it was like now,
Speaker 6: and still really enjoyed it. There's just something about I'm
Speaker 6: not that into the other Burton films. I'm not that,
Speaker 6: although I did mention Batman that's it. That's the only two.
Speaker 6: That's it. Batman returns to Know, but those two I
Speaker 6: just something about them. I love, obviously love Michael Keaton.
Speaker 1: So back then you would have been a young budding
Speaker 1: comedian or you know, maybe with that I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if that idea been planted into you ahead, but the
Speaker 1: sea anyone with the love of comedy the see Michael
Speaker 1: Keaton kind of go from you know, doing sketch comedy
Speaker 1: and stand up comedy into into full Michael Keaton.
Speaker 2: To see what he could do. Yeah, it was not
Speaker 2: like a dramatic role.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like, you know, Robin Williams doing Goodwill hunting
Speaker 1: or Depot Society. But it was just like, Okay, they
Speaker 1: have let this guy off the leash and it's kind
Speaker 1: of a joy to watch.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was definitely his I know he'd done a
Speaker 6: couple of little things before that, but it was definitely like,
Speaker 6: this guy's a superstar, and I remember the skill. I
Speaker 6: was scared of it. I was scared of him when
Speaker 6: I was a kid. I was terrified, but there was
Speaker 6: something about the character that I was still drawn to
Speaker 6: and I did like I was scared, but I still
Speaker 6: loved them and they I don't know, it just made me. Obviously.
Speaker 6: I watched Freddy Krueger and all those things back then
Speaker 6: as well, around that time when I was ten, but
Speaker 6: that was the one that I was scared of but
Speaker 6: I still liked for some reason. I was just drawn
Speaker 6: to that. And then all the the spooky, the Tim
Speaker 6: Burton stuff that's with it just yeah, just I don't know,
Speaker 6: there's just something in my I've probably seen movies that
Speaker 6: are a better, better written and things, but.
Speaker 2: Beople Juice is utterly unique. Though.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, it feels really like to see that.
Speaker 1: When it came out, so how old are you, Well.
Speaker 6: It was like eighty I think it came out, so
Speaker 6: I was five when I but I wouldn't have seen
Speaker 6: it until probably I was ten. I reckon early nineties.
Speaker 1: I would have on BHS, Yes, yeah, and it would
Speaker 1: it would have Yeah, your little mine would have been blown.
Speaker 6: Away, absolutely yeah, And I I'd remember when we got it.
Speaker 6: We got it on school holidays VHS and I got
Speaker 6: to pick and I chose that. Sisters weren't happy, and
Speaker 6: yeah they were. Once we watched it, we all loved it.
Speaker 1: Did you feel you were picking a scary movie or
Speaker 1: did you feel you're picking a comedy?
Speaker 6: Or I had been told by my friend Matt at
Speaker 6: school that he loved it. That's why I got that.
Speaker 6: That was the main reason I got it. The front cover,
Speaker 6: I was like, what is this? What you know? You're
Speaker 6: looking at it? You wouldn't have a clue what it's
Speaker 6: about if you just look at the cover. Yeah, or
Speaker 6: the poster, but yeah, I had no idea about who
Speaker 6: Tim Burton was or any of that stuff. You don't
Speaker 6: look at that stuff when your kid. But yeah, once
Speaker 6: I watched it, I was talk talking about it for
Speaker 6: weeks afterwards.
Speaker 1: And Geena Davis is so good in that Alec Bordwin
Speaker 1: and Catherine harr.
Speaker 2: Is in it too.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she has a role in there, and she
Speaker 1: we know it more recently from Shit's Creek. But also
Speaker 1: you know they waiting for government films and.
Speaker 2: All of that. That is a that is a great
Speaker 2: just when you grab in Canberra.
Speaker 6: I grew up in place called Batrom's Bay, sort of
Speaker 6: an hour and a half on the coast from Camera. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but yeah a lot of Canberra. Well lived in Canberra
Speaker 6: quite a bit too. What was your like CaAl Cinema,
Speaker 6: Bay City Cinemas, even though it's a small country town,
Speaker 6: two cinemas, Bay City Cinema still going strong, is it? Yeah? Real,
Speaker 6: very quintessential countrytown cinema up the stairs and then you
Speaker 6: go that smell as soon as.
Speaker 2: You walk in the popcorn.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they wouldn't have changed the carpet for since I
Speaker 6: was there.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've seen some. Yeah, I watched there. My uncle
Speaker 6: worked at sports scene. He was the manager of the
Speaker 6: local sports store, and he got two free tickets to
Speaker 6: the premiere of Jurassic Park when it came to Bay
Speaker 6: City Cinemas. And that is still even though I didn't
Speaker 6: make my top three, that was one of my best
Speaker 6: ever movie experiences. Getting a coke for free and malteseus
Speaker 6: for free VIP. Yeah, that was beautiful experience.
Speaker 2: I love those early memories.
Speaker 1: But my first movie I ever saw was called The
Speaker 1: Pirate Movie and it was shot at Werriby Mansion starring
Speaker 1: Christy McNichol and Christopher Atkins, Blue Lagoon Christopher Atkins, two
Speaker 1: American imports, and it was this weird kind of movie
Speaker 1: shot down in Weribee. But I remember the smell of
Speaker 1: the cinema, that popcorn and the carpet, and they had
Speaker 1: this as a little promotion, a little treasure chest of
Speaker 1: candy nice and they just set me up. I was like,
Speaker 1: I love the movie, what sort of I need to
Speaker 1: come back in many many times we're talking boiled lullies
Speaker 1: or we.
Speaker 2: No, they went boiled.
Speaker 1: They were little, they were tiny, little like almost I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if they were little hearts.
Speaker 2: But i'd shaped very very similar.
Speaker 6: What is that a movie? I've never heard of that movie.
Speaker 2: Not many people have.
Speaker 1: It's got like a memory, a lot of Australian talent
Speaker 1: in there. But like I said, it's Christop Rackens, Christy mcnichol's.
Speaker 1: It's kind of quasi musical. Oh, I think it's not
Speaker 1: very good. It's not very good. I did see it
Speaker 1: later on in life. Maggie Kirkpatrick's in it, Gary McDonald's
Speaker 1: in it, Bill Kerr, Ted Hamilton.
Speaker 6: I mean they're all there. They are all Gary McDonald Wow, Okay,
Speaker 6: Red Hot and Ronda. Do you know what year this
Speaker 6: would have been?
Speaker 1: This was I reckon it would have been. It must
Speaker 1: have been nineteen eighty or something like that.
Speaker 2: All eighty two.
Speaker 6: And you went in the cinema to see that? Yeah,
Speaker 6: do you remember walking in and having a choice of
Speaker 6: another American blockbuster that was also playing that you missed.
Speaker 1: My other memories of that cinema was I saw Return
Speaker 1: of the Jedi twice in the same day, and the
Speaker 1: second time I went back to see it, I was
Speaker 1: sitting there and it was a pretty packed cinema. And
Speaker 1: you know when Luke enters Javis Palace and he's in
Speaker 1: the black clight. You don't really know it's Luke just yet,
Speaker 1: and something the bug in front of me has gone
Speaker 1: Star Vader, and I went, no, it's nuts, Luke.
Speaker 2: Did you get a look or I couldn't remember a look.
Speaker 1: I was probably too busy me chuckling myself. Do even
Speaker 1: worry about Beetlejuice. Great movie, as much as you despise
Speaker 1: Tim Burton. Your second favorite film of all time is Batman,
Speaker 1: as directed by Tim Burton, And I'm waiting for your
Speaker 1: next favorite movie to be replaced with Edwards hands.
Speaker 2: Tell us about.
Speaker 6: Batman, because I've done fear and loathing, Beetlejuice, Burton, Johnny Depp.
Speaker 6: There's a bit of a yes, yeah, yeah, even though
Speaker 6: I did the wrong.
Speaker 2: Film, which we will get to very soon.
Speaker 6: This is Batman, the same similar reasons to Beatle Juice.
Speaker 6: Probably the next year school holidays, same thing. I got
Speaker 6: the one choice each year, one choice school holidays. We
Speaker 6: would get one new release and then obviously five weeklies,
Speaker 6: so six. I think we got two rounds of it,
Speaker 6: each of picking the new release, because there'd be six
Speaker 6: weeks of schools two sisters. Three of us were.
Speaker 1: You're pretty good at getting the VHS tapes back on
Speaker 1: time and were rewound.
Speaker 6: Yes, we lived walking distance to the no excuses.
Speaker 2: But rewinding was that was a chore. Yeah, that took
Speaker 2: some time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was about a dollar if you
Speaker 6: didn't rewind.
Speaker 1: But my mum would often might send us in with
Speaker 1: horrific excuses as to why the takes where it reround,
Speaker 1: like we lost an uncle or something. It's been an
Speaker 1: emotional time for the family. Can you forego the dollar?
Speaker 1: Fi the great film though still right up there in
Speaker 1: the top line of Batman films eighty nine it's in
Speaker 1: Burton Jack Nicholson a's joke obviously.
Speaker 2: Michael Keaton again.
Speaker 6: Yes, I think he personally, I think he's the best Batman.
Speaker 6: And you know, he was like, what it is fascinating about?
Speaker 6: That's eighty nine, so he was about he was forty.
Speaker 6: He was forty, which not many people, I don't think realize, Like,
Speaker 6: it's pretty old for a Batman.
Speaker 1: Would you say he's the same age as the Queen. Now,
Speaker 1: one of the pleasures of recent cinema has been the
Speaker 1: re emergence of Michael Keaton.
Speaker 2: I think Spotlight might have been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a film that kind of brought him back in
Speaker 1: to The Spotlight funny enough, not trying to tie too
Speaker 1: much into that movie. As to his reappearance. And of
Speaker 1: course Birdman, Yeah, he was so great. But he's even
Speaker 1: there's May called The Other Guys with Will Ferrell, and
Speaker 1: he's really funny in that and he's constantly quoting.
Speaker 6: Chasing Water. He chose to have a breaker, right, he
Speaker 6: chose to have.
Speaker 1: He's so good that I can't imagine it was because
Speaker 1: people weren't hiring.
Speaker 6: I just read that he was on his mansion, like
Speaker 6: he's he's just got a big property and lives apparently
Speaker 6: lives next to Rich Hall the comedian. Really yeah on
Speaker 6: Ranchers in I can't remember what stated he is over
Speaker 6: there but just wanted to have a break for a
Speaker 6: decade or fifteen years and just counted his cash. And yeah,
Speaker 6: but he's come back with a bang. He's in so
Speaker 6: many good films.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's always great. But let's talk about Batman.
Speaker 1: What did you love about the Darkness?
Speaker 6: Yes, I like the I think the because you've probably
Speaker 6: seen the old Batman we had. My sister won a
Speaker 6: VHS from the local newspaper, the original, the original Batman,
Speaker 6: just the TV show with Yeah and the Joker on
Speaker 6: that and the riddle. Yeah, it was similar to that.
Speaker 6: For me, it was that it was really good, bad
Speaker 6: guys but still fun. They weren't I think obviously Ledger
Speaker 6: is probably he's up there with that. He'sn't. They're the
Speaker 6: best Jokers, But yeah, I just love the similar to
Speaker 6: the Beetlejews character, like there's still something about them that
Speaker 6: you really like. Even though he got dropped in that
Speaker 6: pit of apologies. For anybody that hasn't seen it, you're
Speaker 6: still ah, Like I enjoyed that character up until then.
Speaker 1: Kim Passenger is obviously Vicky Vale, but Billy d Williams
Speaker 1: is in any place Harvey Dent, Yes, in that old
Speaker 1: Lando Carosi.
Speaker 6: The Jokers still has the you know, like he's got
Speaker 6: the flowers at squirt Water and the he's still got
Speaker 6: those old tricks that the original. Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 6: really like about it, and that's definitely lost now on.
Speaker 1: The Jokers, Markin went a little bit darker. It's a
Speaker 1: film and I remember, I think eighty nine it comes out,
Speaker 1: and the marketing behind it was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone had a Batman T shirt, just a simple Batman logo.
Speaker 2: It was it was huge.
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson was just awesome and it was It was
Speaker 1: really kind of because you forget there was a time
Speaker 1: where there wasn't a superhero movie coming out every every
Speaker 1: three months, Like this felt like the one that proceeded
Speaker 1: this was probably Superman, and that was you know, the
Speaker 1: original sup May maybe eighty two or something like that,
Speaker 1: and then maybe a couple of sequels, but the sequels
Speaker 1: had petered out a little bit. So this felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, a breath of fresh air and re energized
Speaker 1: the superhero market. I mean not that they were taking it.
Speaker 1: They didn't take advantage of it that much. I mean
Speaker 1: they made they milk the Batman sequels and Joel Schumacher
Speaker 1: I think took over after the second one maybe, and
Speaker 1: they got a bit yes, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: George Cliney had nipples. So what are we doing? What
Speaker 1: are we doing here? What are we doing here? Fantastic choice.
Speaker 1: Now the third film hasn't come up before, but I
Speaker 1: really love this film. Fury with Brad Pitt.
Speaker 6: I think it is so underrated. I can't believe how
Speaker 6: many people haven't seen it or it's and it kind
Speaker 6: of just flew under the radar. It wasn't really a
Speaker 6: box office and even when it was released, it wasn't
Speaker 6: hugely talked about or I think it's done alright box
Speaker 6: office wise, but it's definitely not. My dad loved war
Speaker 6: movies growing up, so I've got this scene where I've
Speaker 6: always just watched them vicariously and I do like them now,
Speaker 6: and obviously Saving Private Ryan all those ones, but this one,
Speaker 6: I think is just I think it's so good because
Speaker 6: it's flown under the radar, and I'm just trying to
Speaker 6: promote it more for the people who it needs a bit.
Speaker 6: If you haven't heard of him, he's great.
Speaker 1: But not even Shyler Booth could ruin this movie, which
Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest complementary He's really good. He's
Speaker 1: really good at Michael Penner is in it. It's largely
Speaker 1: a characters and actors who outside of Brad Pitt and
Speaker 1: Schola Booth, but you kind of are vaguely familiar even
Speaker 1: looking at them, which actually is really nice. And so
Speaker 1: Brad Pit's the leader of this battalion that is basically
Speaker 1: in the tank. It's all set around his tank, which
Speaker 1: is called Fury I think thanks called Fury.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, and I like it. It's really based
Speaker 6: around that. There's a I don't know what the actor's
Speaker 6: name is, but there's a young guy in it who
Speaker 6: joins the tank after one of the members dies. He's
Speaker 6: just called off the line in war to step in
Speaker 6: and just take the role. And it's just just great
Speaker 6: at capturing the fear and innocence, like he's just thrown
Speaker 6: into the scene where he's pretty much guaranteed that he's
Speaker 6: going to die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, hi, good.
Speaker 3: Even Norman White, chain of post whom Germans how many?
Speaker 2: How many? Oh?
Speaker 3: I got too tore? Maybe three hundred of them?
Speaker 2: He got vehicles too, tanks No, no, no, just truss.
Speaker 5: How bunch of buns looking to surrender.
Speaker 3: That's o no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: That they're marching.
Speaker 7: They were singing.
Speaker 2: This sounded like they wanted to play sing.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right over there now you hear that.
Speaker 3: It's goddamn SS battalion. Oh shit, US crash great god, yeah,
Speaker 3: what the webshit?
Speaker 5: It's just getting ship all right, looks about to be dark,
Speaker 5: just going up out of here.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 2: Let him pass on through because something was through.
Speaker 3: Norman, go get ship, go get your pack, let's go.
Speaker 3: We ain't ever run before.
Speaker 2: I ain't running now, what's that? We're gonna fight it out.
Speaker 6: We can't.
Speaker 3: We gonna hold this cross?
Speaker 6: Well, what do you mean gonna hold this? The tanks busted?
Speaker 2: The tanks fucking busty top. Yeah you said that.
Speaker 6: What are you doing? What do you wanna do?
Speaker 2: You want to sit here and here hold off faces?
Speaker 2: But you know not what don't want to do with
Speaker 2: what we're doing with five of us in your position?
Speaker 2: Not I can fighting positions when we ain't gonna tell
Speaker 2: you how are we gonna fight? We an't care it,
Speaker 2: don't make sen What are you doing?
Speaker 3: Get out of here, Get to that tree line. Boys,
Speaker 3: take care of yourselves.
Speaker 2: Get to that tree line.
Speaker 5: It's all right, Hum, that's all right. Mhm, it's well,
Speaker 5: I'm staying here with you.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I just feel like it's just it really
Speaker 6: hits home for what they went through. It's just it's
Speaker 6: I don't know what the budget was, but it must
Speaker 6: be huge. It is so well shot. And the scene
Speaker 6: with the tanks when they come across the and they're
Speaker 6: on in the field and it's three of their tanks
Speaker 6: versus the enemy. It is just unbelievable way that shot
Speaker 6: all in one.
Speaker 1: There are incredible set pieces all the way through it,
Speaker 1: and they're basically the whole movie, like how the fuck
Speaker 1: are they going to get out of this? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's just been the whole time, and they're not necessarily
Speaker 1: all heroes, you know, and that some of you you
Speaker 1: don't really like, you know, you know, some of them
Speaker 1: that aren't doing you know, awesome things, yeah, throughout there,
Speaker 1: but it's it's It was directed by David A. Or
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly how to say his name, but
Speaker 1: he went on to do he did End of Watch,
Speaker 1: but in Suicide Squad. He was brought on for Suicide
Speaker 1: Squad and there's also done some other Fast and Furious
Speaker 1: and wrote Training Day, but that was a TV series
Speaker 1: of Training Day, which you wrote, but I don't think
Speaker 1: he had anything to do with the original one.
Speaker 2: But also wrote Fury. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a really it's it's kind of gritty, it gets
Speaker 1: you in all the right bloody places. It's beautifully shot,
Speaker 1: and it's tense, like you just these guys are, because
Speaker 1: it basically comes out there in the tank surrounded.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and there always seemed to be the main the
Speaker 6: last stand. They always it's always up to them. They
Speaker 6: always get sent to the worst part. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 6: always told, you know, but there we've got to follow orders,
Speaker 6: and you kind of want them all to There's a
Speaker 6: couple you don't care if they die, but there's Certainely
Speaker 6: Pitt and the young guy. You're like, hell, yeah, they've
Speaker 6: got to get out of this, but I won't ruin
Speaker 6: the ending. But you're just you're rooting for them the
Speaker 6: whole time.
Speaker 1: I think the young actor is Logan Luhrman, I think
Speaker 1: his name is. He has been in because he has
Speaker 1: a really sympathetic face.
Speaker 6: He's probably twenty five, but he looks eighteen. Yeah, he's
Speaker 6: probably thirty.
Speaker 2: He's been like Perks of a Wallflower. He was in
Speaker 2: did you see Hunters at All?
Speaker 1: Which I think Amazon came out with al Pacino about
Speaker 1: these guys who hunt Nazis.
Speaker 2: It was it was, It wasn't bad. It was a
Speaker 2: bit style over over substance.
Speaker 6: So like an Inglorious Bastards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had that kind of face, very stylized, huge
Speaker 1: but huges. So the idea was he's still Nazis in America,
Speaker 1: and these people would track them down and and kill them.
Speaker 1: Logan Luman, he's got a he has got a a. Really,
Speaker 1: it's a very pretty face. You put him as much
Speaker 1: as you're putting in with Brad Pitt, who's, you know,
Speaker 1: the most handsome man who's ever lived. It's Brad Pitt,
Speaker 1: an older Brad Pitt and muddy and dirty and kind of.
Speaker 6: He does well to play a gritty even though he's
Speaker 6: a good looking man. He does well to play a
Speaker 6: gritty guy that you're not really looking at. There is
Speaker 6: a scene though, where you take his shirt off and go,
Speaker 6: all right, that's unnecessary.
Speaker 2: Keep it clean, bro.
Speaker 6: But you might remember there's a scene in there that's
Speaker 6: just so heartbreaking, like the war and what it was like.
Speaker 6: They get to a town and they go up into
Speaker 6: a house where there's a couple of ladies, like a
Speaker 6: daughter and a mother or a sister's.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a scene I mostly remember.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he just he just has a little tin
Speaker 6: because they're not eating properly or anything. He has a
Speaker 6: tin with just four eggs in it and asks them
Speaker 6: to cook four eggs for them. And they're sitting down
Speaker 6: to have the meal is just such a moment for
Speaker 6: them to enjoy it. And it's just four eggs. They
Speaker 6: just cook four eggs and all sit around and have
Speaker 6: the lovely you know, the fine china and everything to
Speaker 6: eat it. But it's like, God, it's quite depressing to watch,
Speaker 6: but it's really capsul encapsulates that what it was like
Speaker 6: for them.
Speaker 1: Logan Lemon was also the main actor in Percy Jackson,
Speaker 1: the Percy Jackson series for us who know that, but
Speaker 1: were you a war game kid?
Speaker 2: Like growing up was playing war games, like not on
Speaker 2: computers that.
Speaker 1: Like, there's probably backyards with sticks, and you know, our.
Speaker 6: House backed onto bush land, so we were always in there,
Speaker 6: especially after I'd watched something war related. I think Bridge
Speaker 6: over the River Choir would be my dad's favorite film.
Speaker 6: I've probably seen that five times, three times vicariously just
Speaker 6: sitting there trying to ignore him.
Speaker 2: He's right into it, just waiting for the Tim Burton reboot.
Speaker 6: I would watch that, look to be honest. Yeah, so
Speaker 6: we'd just get straight out in the bush, make make
Speaker 6: guns out of sticks and die behind logs and put
Speaker 6: the get the charcoal out of the fire, and yeah,
Speaker 6: this is this is.
Speaker 1: Why it's so great that we live in the country
Speaker 1: largely doesn't have guns, because you know, if you had
Speaker 1: watching a war movie going out, we just got our sticks.
Speaker 2: That's all we need, plastic guns.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Enough of that nonsense, all right, than your Connell
Speaker 1: fear and loathing in Las Vegas. The predicament I'm in
Speaker 1: is and I haven't obviously watched it for this episode,
Speaker 1: but I have seen it.
Speaker 2: I have seen it. What did you think of it before?
Speaker 6: I did do a little bit of reading this before
Speaker 6: I watched it, just to see what people because i'd
Speaker 6: heard of it, and i'd heard it was a cult following,
Speaker 6: and obviously you were very keen for me to watch.
Speaker 2: Reading None of the messages that I sent you.
Speaker 6: Not the most crucial thing they was supposed to read.
Speaker 6: I was so happy with my notes on this.
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's go through it.
Speaker 1: So it's Terry Gilliam of Monty Python, Mundy Python, and
Speaker 1: obviously Johnny Depp in the lead role.
Speaker 6: I hadn't heard much of I haven't heard much of
Speaker 6: him in the last He's gone quite as he has
Speaker 6: gone right off the boil.
Speaker 2: He hasn't made a movie. He hasn't been in the
Speaker 2: news at all.
Speaker 6: That's actually my thought process. You've told me to watch
Speaker 6: Lost in Translation. Clearly, as we've gone back and looked
Speaker 6: at the messages, I accept responsibility for this. But then
Speaker 6: i'm watching I see you know, I'm thinking Pete's told
Speaker 6: me to watch Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, which
Speaker 6: he had Johnny Depps in that it's weird that he
Speaker 6: would Well, he didn't, he didn't watch it. That's why
Speaker 6: it's problematic. But no, it is. But because you didn't
Speaker 6: tell me to watch it at all.
Speaker 1: When you were watching it, were you like, how much
Speaker 1: were you was Johnny depp recent trial and this the
Speaker 1: plan in your mind at all?
Speaker 2: Or are you able to sink into his performance?
Speaker 6: I think probably a couple of minutes and then sink
Speaker 6: into the performance. But I read that before I watched
Speaker 6: it that obviously it's a cult classic, but it's one
Speaker 6: of the most polarizing films of all time. People walked
Speaker 6: out in the premiere. Some people love it and have
Speaker 6: sent it a hundred times, and I can after watching
Speaker 6: I can totally see how that because I found his
Speaker 6: I've never disliked to carry mate characters in a film
Speaker 6: more than this film. But I watched it to the end.
Speaker 6: I wanted to know what would happen. I didn't want
Speaker 6: to turn it off at any point. Yeah, but they
Speaker 6: there's just no like protagonists that you like, you don't like.
Speaker 6: There's nothing about it that you like. They're high on
Speaker 6: it's a very drug. It's all about acid. And he's
Speaker 6: a reporter and he's sent to the Nevada Desert to
Speaker 6: cover a motorbike race. But him and his attorney, who's
Speaker 6: I don't know, is it Benicia del Toro, that character.
Speaker 2: That John's Hunter s Thompson.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, basically yeah, And I don't it's just yeah,
Speaker 6: they're just they're just on acid the whole time, basically.
Speaker 6: And you think at the start, because they start off high,
Speaker 6: you think, okay, this is going to get into them
Speaker 6: getting so not getting getting sober forever, but just getting
Speaker 6: clear minded and the story will take shape and off
Speaker 6: you go. But it's just a whole The whole thing
Speaker 6: is right as it starts, is how it is for
Speaker 6: the entire hour fifty It's just wild. They're just on
Speaker 6: benders the whole time. They're trashing hotels and you just
Speaker 6: I just disliked them so much. I don't know if
Speaker 6: it's just because I'm older now, what it is.
Speaker 1: I remember my thoughts when I watched it was that
Speaker 1: I had no the characters were dislikable. I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't have a way to get into them because I'm
Speaker 1: not a Drugs haven't been a big part of my life.
Speaker 1: So I think my Damien Power had one of his
Speaker 1: top three films, and you know, he said, you know,
Speaker 1: I have used you know, recreational drugs, and and and
Speaker 1: so he had it brought back a lot of experiences
Speaker 1: for him. It was kind of fun for him to
Speaker 1: kind of go and experience that. And I imagine he's
Speaker 1: certainly not alone in that of what you know, going
Speaker 1: perhaps getting high or taking a trip, whatever the young
Speaker 1: people are doing these days, Daniel and experiencing it. I
Speaker 1: can I can see how that would be fun. But
Speaker 1: if you come from a place where drug use has
Speaker 1: not really been a big part of your life, you'd
Speaker 1: have seen blokes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that's where the divide is right there.
Speaker 6: I've never taken acid. I've taken other drugs, but nothing
Speaker 6: is you know, nothing where I've hallucinated, and like they
Speaker 6: are through the whole time. So as I was watching,
Speaker 6: I was like, all right, this is the cult following
Speaker 6: is people who have taken acid and the people who
Speaker 6: don't like it have probably yeah teetotals, you know, walking out,
Speaker 6: It's it's still like, it's really well shot. It's really
Speaker 6: cool the way it's made. There's a great scene where
Speaker 6: he's llucinating and everybody turns into lizards in a hotel
Speaker 6: foyer and he's having a horrible trip. But it's it
Speaker 6: actually made me look up where can I buy asid? Yes,
Speaker 6: and then I took some and then I read your
Speaker 6: message and I read it wrong. It made me look
Speaker 6: up that there's any connections to Beetlejuice in this film,
Speaker 6: and then it was any set design or anything, because
Speaker 6: that scene reminded me of the Beetlejuic scene where they're
Speaker 6: in the hospital waiting room and with a little small head.
Speaker 6: It was very similar.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny that you had you watched, you know,
Speaker 1: a film that was you know, not aimed at a
Speaker 1: slightly different audience in a way, I guess, but like
Speaker 1: almost like a younger like almost like Beetlejuice is like
Speaker 1: if there are kids on drugs. Beetle Juice is probably
Speaker 1: the film for them. You've ver too much Red Cordial,
Speaker 1: watch Beetlejuice like you've run a sugar high. You love Beetlejuice,
Speaker 1: and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is probably the
Speaker 1: adult version of that. It's yeah, bettle Juice is wonderfully weird.
Speaker 1: I think Beetle Juice has more of a plot, and
Speaker 1: it's hard to get away with plotless films, you know.
Speaker 1: Lost in Translation, the film that we want to talk
Speaker 1: about today, just to remind everyone.
Speaker 5: Is.
Speaker 2: Largely like a reasonably plotless kind of film. I love it.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's great. I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: watching it last night, because that was the film we
Speaker 1: reread it. But I'm really glad I enjoyed it, So
Speaker 1: I'm glad it wasn't a taxing exercise for me.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't even need to watch it.
Speaker 1: But that, you know, that is like a meandering kind
Speaker 1: of film. It's nuanced, it's in the character performances as
Speaker 1: not necessarily a whole bunch of dialogue. It's not like
Speaker 1: it's not as talky talky as some of those films
Speaker 1: can be. It's just it's beautifully observed, and I think
Speaker 1: it really works.
Speaker 6: What I remember of that film? Would you probably yeah,
Speaker 6: a long time ago when it first came out, probably,
Speaker 6: But do you think anyone but Bill Murray could play
Speaker 6: that roll? I feel like that is that movie is
Speaker 6: so much him.
Speaker 1: B Coppler said that she wouldn't have made a film
Speaker 1: without Bill Murray. So she went to him and said,
Speaker 1: and eventually got on to him. Because Bill Murray, you
Speaker 1: probably have heard those who haven't, he basically runs his career.
Speaker 1: He has a landline phone, doesn't have a manager, and
Speaker 1: the number it's pretty hard to get, so you need
Speaker 1: to go know somebody who knows somebody who knows Bill Murray.
Speaker 2: And even Sophia.
Speaker 1: Coppler, whose fucking dad is Francis Well Coppler, maybe the
Speaker 1: greatest filmmaker in history, still couldn't get Bill Murray's number.
Speaker 2: Eventually gets it off.
Speaker 1: Were's Anderson because Bill Murray had done Rushmore and the
Speaker 1: Royal Tannembaums and yeah, like I think left quite a
Speaker 1: few messages, you know, and eventually he agrees to do this,
Speaker 1: and even hadn't doesn't sign a contract. So they're in
Speaker 1: Japan doing a bit of pre production still not completely store.
Speaker 1: Bill Murray's going to ruck up or not and she
Speaker 1: calls We's Anderson and he says, if Bill says he'll
Speaker 1: do it, he'll do it.
Speaker 2: And the wow he racked up.
Speaker 6: But yeah, good golf courses in Japan, so that was
Speaker 6: probably got him over the line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably, He probably right. Actually, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's a fun film for him to make. One
Speaker 1: is a really well written film he had licensed to
Speaker 1: do some madly being it's a two hander, you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of you know it I think shot in
Speaker 1: twenty seven days, so there wasn't a lot of stuffing around.
Speaker 1: I don't think they shot a lot of a gorilla
Speaker 1: style on the streets and yeh with a very young
Speaker 1: skull at your hands and he's like it was seventeen.
Speaker 1: Actually it's quite interesting looking at that, thinking now where
Speaker 1: she's gone. She's you know, she's a superstar now. But
Speaker 1: seeing her play, yeah, well she wasn't playing since she
Speaker 1: was seventeen, playing like probably somebody in the early to
Speaker 1: mid twenties. But she's great, but well, Lost of Translations
Speaker 1: will come back and do that another time. So Fear
Speaker 1: and Loathing in Las Vegas was Johnny Depp. He did
Speaker 1: everything he had to do in the role, Like, yeah.
Speaker 6: I like, obviously he's playing Hundre Thompson, but I just
Speaker 6: feel like the obviously I'm not a I'm not an
Speaker 6: actor or anything, but it just feels so forced and
Speaker 6: the voice is just did he talking like this the
Speaker 6: whole film? It's just it just seems so I know
Speaker 6: he's playing that and that he's really trying to, but
Speaker 6: it just seems unnecessary. It's a bad country.
Speaker 1: There are some times when you are watching an actor
Speaker 1: early in the movie and they are you know, you
Speaker 1: know that it's not their natural speaking. They're doing a voice,
Speaker 1: whether it's an accent or changeing the gravity of their
Speaker 1: voice or the gravitars of their voice, and you're going
Speaker 1: to you're gonna that way we go?
Speaker 6: Is this?
Speaker 1: They're doing this the whole time, And then sometimes it
Speaker 1: just becomes you're gonna like a mint later, you're not
Speaker 1: even thinking about it anymore. But there are times sometimes
Speaker 1: where you're still thinking about later.
Speaker 6: I think I thought about the whole time, Like what
Speaker 6: did you think? What did you think about Christian Bale's
Speaker 6: voice in Batman.
Speaker 2: A Man so on and reassuring. Is putting a code
Speaker 2: around a young boy shoulders very in the back of
Speaker 2: my brain.
Speaker 1: Not the first time you're like, oh wow, that's a choice.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that ever completely went away from me.
Speaker 6: No, not for me. It didn't for me. What what?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 6: What did? I know? You're trying to be different and
Speaker 6: that is not the That wasn't the thing to make it.
Speaker 6: It was just so un It just wasn't. You can't
Speaker 6: speak like that and then speak normally well at your
Speaker 6: dinner parties. It doesn't. The mask doesn't change your voice made.
Speaker 1: Like it's just I guess if he's trying to remain anonymous, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that he's going, you know, and Bruce Wayne is not
Speaker 1: an actor, so he's just going, well maybe if I.
Speaker 6: Just a little bit, but not full gravel like that was.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could have been worse. You could have
Speaker 2: done it, you know, like a Chinese accident.
Speaker 6: Now we're talking.
Speaker 1: Did you wonder throughout this? And not necessarily based on
Speaker 1: the Johnny Depp and Amber Herd case, but obviously I
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say Johnny Depp has has been
Speaker 1: has been a drug user over us and that sometimes
Speaker 1: has led him down dangerous and dark paths. Did you
Speaker 1: kind of wonder, I wonder where this film sits and
Speaker 1: what influence it had on it, Like.
Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely, if he is you can tell he's definitely
Speaker 6: in the zone, and he's definitely he's one hundred percent
Speaker 6: he's taken drugs. When they're not shooting, you can just
Speaker 6: tell it's in the He might even be high in
Speaker 6: some of the scenes and they might not have minded that.
Speaker 6: It's just got that vibe about it. And same with
Speaker 6: Del Toro. They are obviously it's great acting in the
Speaker 6: scenes where they are messed up and hallucinating. And there's
Speaker 6: a scene where Bernucio del Toro's characters in a bath
Speaker 6: and Johnny Depp comes in and that it's just it's wild,
Speaker 6: like he's it's just gross, and they're just in this
Speaker 6: messed up hallucinating but you're like, how is this real?
Speaker 6: You know, you sometimes watch scenes and you read about
Speaker 6: later that that was they actually were doing that in
Speaker 6: that scene. Would not put a part if he didn't
Speaker 6: have traces of some sort of drugs in his system
Speaker 6: in that film for that entire film, I would be
Speaker 6: blown away. Yeah, like there was Yeah, and then afterwards
Speaker 6: how much did he you know, did he take on
Speaker 6: after that?
Speaker 2: Did he?
Speaker 6: Yeah? H being that character after the film, because it's
Speaker 6: they've got He's got a suitcase the whole time that's
Speaker 6: got every drug ever made in it, and he carries
Speaker 6: that around with him and he knows everything about it
Speaker 6: and the way he takes the drugs. He's obviously a
Speaker 6: good actor, but he also knows how to do it all.
Speaker 2: Like he's funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes I think people think everyone in entertainment
Speaker 1: takes drugs and all that and crept me from wrong.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people, I think imagine there's probably
Speaker 1: a lot of drugs backstage in comedy rooms. I've seen
Speaker 1: so little of it. I've barely been offered any there's
Speaker 1: never been at rooms. And maybe if you kick on afterwards,
Speaker 1: you know, there might be.
Speaker 6: Some cups of teas in green rooms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is, So.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's it's I did a debate
Speaker 1: yesterday with somebody about how rife it is. I know
Speaker 1: it's obviously it's society, it's roighte. But I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if it's any more in entertainment than in the stock
Speaker 1: breaking industry, for example.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but just money wherever there's money, exactly right.
Speaker 1: And and it's funny though we've you know, we assume
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp's probably on drugs in this movie, and you know,
Speaker 1: and he's, yeah, he's spoken about before that he has
Speaker 1: taken drugs. It's no secret. And we're kind of okay
Speaker 1: with it because we like his movies. But a twenty
Speaker 1: one year old footballer, you know, it gets you know,
Speaker 1: it gets seen in the TikTok video and it's outrage.
Speaker 2: It's outrage.
Speaker 1: It's it's got a weird some of the double standards
Speaker 1: we're going to have when it comes to drugs.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, just thinking as I was saying that I might
Speaker 6: google after this, I might read that he was completely sober. Yes,
Speaker 6: we're going through one of his you know, sober times.
Speaker 6: But they might have even chosen him for that role
Speaker 6: because of they knew he was a party er. Yeah,
Speaker 6: well perfectly as well as.
Speaker 2: I would like to know.
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Speaker 1: leave us a message if you have any info on
Speaker 1: Fear and Over in Las Vegas is. Where As Johnny
Speaker 1: Depp was like, sometimes you do hear of actors going
Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole for a roll and then being.
Speaker 2: Quite affected by that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a positive change, but other times it's it
Speaker 1: can be Oh no, I kind of yeah, I became
Speaker 1: Hunter S Thompson for three months and now I kind
Speaker 1: of really like drugs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could have absolutely happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: We hear about Christian Bale often.
Speaker 2: He does the whole method.
Speaker 6: Yeah, method thing gets right into it. I wonder how
Speaker 6: he you know, he's probably doing quite well to be
Speaker 6: just back to himself, like he gets so Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I think in the movie Worrier, which you did
Speaker 1: with Joel Legend, and like he fully got on the
Speaker 1: roids too, you know, it's like a like a cage
Speaker 1: a cage fighting or mixed martial arts and went full
Speaker 1: full on the roids, and it's like, wow, that's a choice.
Speaker 2: Have you been in Vegas? Did it do anything for
Speaker 2: you to kind of go, let's book some tickets.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I've never had an interesting going to Vegas, and
Speaker 6: that probably makes me dislike it even more. No, it's not.
Speaker 6: There's not much about Vegas in it that I didn't
Speaker 6: already know, it hadn't seen from other films. So yeah,
Speaker 6: it's kind of so much of it is said in
Speaker 6: their hotel rooms. Yeah did it probably did more about
Speaker 6: acid for me than that. I'd probably still give it
Speaker 6: a wide berth for the rest of my all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had no real interest.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get curious going to go how would it
Speaker 1: open your mind up in a kind of artistic kind
Speaker 1: of way, and what does it do and all that,
Speaker 1: But I just have no I've always been pretty good
Speaker 1: of not going down rabbit holes. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a that's not going to end up anywhere it's gonna
Speaker 1: be good.
Speaker 6: Maybe when we do lost in translation, we should both
Speaker 6: take a tab of acid for that episode. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I have friends that love acid, and yeah, they tell
Speaker 6: you their stories of I just got I just ended
Speaker 6: up with this couple and we're in a went to
Speaker 6: a music concert and I didn't know where I was
Speaker 6: and then I just woke up in a puddle just
Speaker 6: in my andies the next morning, like they're laughing at me,
Speaker 6: Like I couldn't think. I think that's the worst thing
Speaker 6: I could think. I would much rather be in bed
Speaker 6: that entire time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have judgment for anyone who who who partakes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and the OLDIO I mean when I was younger,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, there was some stuff. Yeah, absolutely, and
Speaker 1: then the I can't I can't be where I need
Speaker 1: to be if I'm doing this.
Speaker 2: And I was part of me.
Speaker 1: I stopped playing computer games when I was younger because
Speaker 1: I knew it would open up this kind of door
Speaker 1: of addiction and I wouldn't get I wouldn't end up
Speaker 1: writing jokes, get stuff, oldest, end up playing Marry I can't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, similar for me, I gave it. Yeah. Do your
Speaker 6: kids play now that that you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Occasionally might jump on and play a bit of NBA. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes before a Boston game, I get on and I
Speaker 1: make my sons be Boston and I'll be the opposition
Speaker 1: because I know they're going to beat me, So it's
Speaker 1: like an omen.
Speaker 2: I might have to get onto it for a game.
Speaker 6: Six. Have you created your own character yourself in.
Speaker 2: The I haven't gone that far. I haven't gone that far.
Speaker 1: But growing up, I was more into the Legis Larry,
Speaker 1: which I still think Adam Sandler should still do a
Speaker 1: live action Legis Larry.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: My a friend of mine's dad used to play that
Speaker 6: and we'd have sleepover and we'd like watch.
Speaker 1: Sho there's full like pixelated yeah, pixel not pixelated, but pixels.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He didn't know we were there by the way. We
Speaker 6: were like sneaking in the dark watching him. He'd come
Speaker 6: home drunk from the pub and play.
Speaker 2: Very weird, very weird game, very weird game. Any more
Speaker 2: notes that.
Speaker 6: You want to you know you yeah, the as I said,
Speaker 6: there's no redeeming features of either the characters in that film,
Speaker 6: and there's it all. As I was watching us, like
Speaker 6: this all has to build up to something. This has
Speaker 6: all got a point about, you know, about the American
Speaker 6: dream and all this the acid, and it gets to
Speaker 6: the point at the end where he is because he's
Speaker 6: a reporter, he's writing his piece. Finally Del Toro's characters
Speaker 6: left and he's in this room on he's eye and
Speaker 6: you're like, okay, here's the big final piece.
Speaker 7: They're all worried into a survival trip. Now no more
Speaker 7: of the speed if fueled the sixty that was the
Speaker 7: fatal flow on tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America's
Speaker 7: only consciousness expansion without ever giving a thought to the
Speaker 7: grim meat hoook realities that we're lying in wait for
Speaker 7: all those people who took him seriously, all those pathetically eager,
Speaker 7: accid treats. You thought they could buy a piece and
Speaker 7: understanding three bucks a yead. But they're loss and failure
Speaker 7: as ours too. What literally took down with him was
Speaker 7: the central illusion of a whole lifestyle that he helped
Speaker 7: create a generation of permanent cripples, failed secrets. We never
Speaker 7: understood the essential ortimistic fallacy of the house in culture,
Speaker 7: the desperate assumption. But somebody, or at least some force,
Speaker 7: it's tending late the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 6: I just found the end. I just found it that
Speaker 6: you know, when you you watch the character and if
Speaker 6: you really like them, that last scene, if they're narrating
Speaker 6: something and typing something out like murdery wrote or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was waiting, when's he going to get to murder?
Speaker 2: She wrote? It's the obvious link up.
Speaker 6: You're you're in it. You want it to be the
Speaker 6: big finale. But as he's talking and typing, I couldn't
Speaker 6: care less what he had to say about the American
Speaker 6: care because it didn't He never had me at any point.
Speaker 1: It's not what you want in your movie. The audience
Speaker 1: going I don't care what happened. I mean, you did
Speaker 1: well to kind of stay with it, considering you know usually,
Speaker 1: and you probably did it because you knew you're going
Speaker 1: to be talking about it.
Speaker 6: And I do appreciate it, and that's why we've discussed.
Speaker 2: So thank you for sticking with it.
Speaker 1: I missed looking up some fear and loathing and Las
Speaker 1: Vegas facts, some fun facts that we might be able
Speaker 1: to bring here are some things that you may not
Speaker 1: have known about fear and loathing.
Speaker 6: What I would like to know is you watch a
Speaker 6: film sometime. And I like movies, but I wouldn't say
Speaker 6: I'm a film buff, and I watch and I really
Speaker 6: pick it apart films I watch, I just watch it.
Speaker 6: I'd never walk out of a film. I don't care,
Speaker 6: you know, I watch it till the end, no matter what.
Speaker 6: But as when I finished it, I was like, is
Speaker 6: there something there that these cult following people will say, Oh, no,
Speaker 6: you've missed it. You've missed the point, You missed the point.
Speaker 6: There's a message there that you didn't see because you've
Speaker 6: never taken drugs. That's what I want to know. Is
Speaker 6: there something there that i've you know that I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: What has Dan missed?
Speaker 6: Is that a question on let us know.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's it's it's well, here's a
Speaker 1: connection between the two movies were one that we're going
Speaker 1: to discuss and the one that we did discuss. Bill
Speaker 1: Murray gave some acting advice.
Speaker 6: This is why I watched Fear and Loathing because this
Speaker 6: is exactly what I wanted you to read out. It
Speaker 6: was all a part of my plan.
Speaker 2: So nine and eighty. Bill Murray portrayed Hunter S.
Speaker 1: Thompson in the movie Where the Buffalo Roam, which is
Speaker 1: also based on Fear and Loathing in Fear and Loathing,
Speaker 1: but received less praising, less praise, and less attention. Murray
Speaker 1: also worked with depth on Edward four years prior to
Speaker 1: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Edward, directed by Tim Burton.
Speaker 6: All things aside, I know I've totally messed up your day.
Speaker 2: I want to go that far.
Speaker 6: There's some nice links there. Has it has been some nice.
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever realized how connected this it's
Speaker 1: been part of the same Marvel universe.
Speaker 6: At least keep going, I think we'll find more. Well.
Speaker 1: Murray advised to have to be careful or else he'd
Speaker 1: find himself playing the wacky character for the next ten years.
Speaker 1: Murray also told Depth to make sure his next starring
Speaker 1: film was as far from Thompson as possible to avoid
Speaker 1: being pigeonholed. He took its advice seriously, as seen in
Speaker 1: his next roles in The Ninth Gate and The Astronauts Wife,
Speaker 1: which was shit.
Speaker 6: I just think that character is I don't know how
Speaker 6: he could have been Pigeon. I feel like that's an
Speaker 6: easy character to go in and get out of again
Speaker 6: watching it, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's pretty unique kind of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so different to his normally. Like, I think
Speaker 6: I think he's probably best in What's Eating Gilbert Gray, Like,
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's done much since that probably
Speaker 6: if Fear and Loathing ninety eight, like, has he done
Speaker 6: much that really stands out? He did when when was
Speaker 6: priest of the Caribbean Blockbusters, But.
Speaker 2: Donny Brasco might have been after this maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dan, you say he hasn't done much, But
Speaker 1: did you see Sherlock Sherlock Gnomes.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and light. I mean it's only a voice still,
Speaker 2: he was on Murder on the Orange Express with everybody else.
Speaker 1: He did Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, and
Speaker 1: then I think he might have been taken off that.
Speaker 1: He did a street looking Glass. He did the Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's The Art of the Deal movie where he played
Speaker 1: Donald Trump as a TV movie.
Speaker 6: Really yeah, okay, that's one.
Speaker 2: The lone ranger was he?
Speaker 6: What was that? Was he in the Bankrobber film? He was?
Speaker 2: Was that Black mass?
Speaker 6: No John Dillinger? Where was he John Dillon?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So that that was Michael Man.
Speaker 6: That wasn't a bad film.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, he's good.
Speaker 1: I mean he's made he's made some good films, and
Speaker 1: he's made some public enemies that was the one you're
Speaker 1: thinking of, and he's made some shockers. He's also in
Speaker 1: SpongeBob of SquarePants two thousand and nine, so you know,
Speaker 1: they're not all classics.
Speaker 6: But what's interesting now is what will he ever be
Speaker 6: able to do anything again. I don't have an interest
Speaker 6: in watching him going forward.
Speaker 2: It's tricky, isn't it. It is tricky.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens watch his space. Taboa Maguire's board
Speaker 1: look costs him fifteen thousand dollars because Tabia Maguire was
Speaker 1: the board dude in the back of the car.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the same ball.
Speaker 2: He's got a hiker.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got long There was a few cameos in
Speaker 6: the film. Actually he's in it, Karon Diaz. Isn't it
Speaker 6: for a scene? Yeah, as a reporter in a lift,
Speaker 6: Gary Busey pops up.
Speaker 2: At one point Kave Busey didn't know who's been filmed?
Speaker 6: He okay, maybe him and Debt were hanging out at
Speaker 6: the time.
Speaker 1: Hundred stumpson, as he said to himself. He became good
Speaker 1: mates with Johnny Depp. Belinicio del Toro gain some weight,
Speaker 1: gained forty pounds. He plays Thoms' longtime friend Oscar Zetta Acosta,
Speaker 1: who drowned in the nineteen seventy four In real life,
Speaker 1: Terry Gilliam originally didn't get writer's credit for his scripts
Speaker 1: because he replaced the director Alex Cox, who made the
Speaker 1: films Repo, Man and Sid and Nancy after production was
Speaker 1: already under way. Terrek Gilliam seems to attract himself to
Speaker 1: messy projects. He seems to you don't have this, whether
Speaker 1: they get messy under his watch or he replaces people.
Speaker 1: The cocks left over creative differences from the Gillian to
Speaker 1: rewrite the script in a few short days to accommodate
Speaker 1: his visual style, which is fair enough. You know, if
Speaker 1: you want to take over the project, you get the
Speaker 1: right to make some changes. Mate, this movie comes with homework.
Speaker 1: You didn't do your maths homework, but you did your science. Sincerely, no,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. This is it's been fun. We're
Speaker 1: almost going to pull up stumps and go, well, we can't.
Speaker 1: We can't do anything here. But I think we've done
Speaker 1: well to navigate them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I sincerely apologize.
Speaker 2: But are you usually good at reading messages?
Speaker 6: It's my bread and butter, and I'm normally I'm normally
Speaker 6: on time as well, and I failed at both.
Speaker 2: You're only a couple of minutes, Like, yeah, but I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm a stickler for a couple of but I would
Speaker 6: like to be five minutes early, if anything. And maybe
Speaker 6: if I was five minutes early, we could have watched
Speaker 6: a film. Oh, I just I was so pumped. I
Speaker 6: was watching that film. I was like doing my research.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, this is the greatest film I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: But back, because you've watched a film that was sound
Speaker 1: like reasonably tough work.
Speaker 6: But if you've got to take anything away from the
Speaker 6: days you read your messages, because that's it, that's just
Speaker 6: go back, read it again.
Speaker 2: Your eyes across your t's, yeah, across the detail.
Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever felt I can't remember the
Speaker 6: last time, maybe like a project at school where I've
Speaker 6: missed a crucial bit of information. But when I saw
Speaker 6: all your notes and you said all right, lost in translation,
Speaker 6: my my stomach has never dropped quicker. I was like
Speaker 6: I was on a roller coaster.
Speaker 1: Was it a feeling you got when you went to
Speaker 1: school and you realize as your mum drove your off,
Speaker 1: knowing that you didn't have time to go home, and
Speaker 1: it was casual closed, exactly when you're in your uniform.
Speaker 6: Times ten or like you you had the date for
Speaker 6: a project to be handed in on time and everybody
Speaker 6: else has got theirs there and you're not. You're sweet.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we've done very well. It's been it's
Speaker 1: been a lot of fun. Ma, congratulations on even through
Speaker 1: a pandemic. Your star is rising, gutless wonder is it still?
Speaker 1: Is it still touring?
Speaker 6: I'm just about to launch Australia w two years So fantastic,
Speaker 6: starting on July fifteenth, in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: Massive reviews out of the Melbourne International Comedy Festival. Good
Speaker 1: to see you adding shows into Melbourne and all around
Speaker 1: the country. If you see Daniel Connell playing a town
Speaker 1: that you do yourself a favorite, check him out, make
Speaker 1: sure you get the rights, make sure you've got.
Speaker 6: The right time, and if you don't, I will not
Speaker 6: be angry. Yeah I can't have a go.
Speaker 2: You might end up at hughsy show something.
Speaker 1: Whenever you're on you see him on on TV doing
Speaker 1: stand up or just anything. Just check him out, get
Speaker 1: behind him, follow him on Instagram.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just Daniel Connell comedy.
Speaker 2: Daniel Connell comedy. It's all there. It's all there.
Speaker 6: Thanks mate, Thanks, thanks very much for being so nice
Speaker 6: and getting us through. It was really fun. It was
Speaker 6: still really fun. I was glad there was a few
Speaker 6: links there that ted a few things because.
Speaker 1: None of us really were aware of how how super
Speaker 1: connected Lost in Translation is with Fear and Loathing Las Vegas.
Speaker 6: That's one positive to come out of the day.
Speaker 1: Now we know, well, you said there was a Cameron Diaz.
Speaker 1: He's one more for the road. You said there was
Speaker 1: a Cameron Diaz cameo in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: I think she plays a TV reporter in Lost in Translation,
Speaker 1: there's a character played by Anna Faris who's this kind
Speaker 1: of for one of a better term, did see kind
Speaker 1: of Hollywood star blonde, and she kind of she gets
Speaker 1: she gets along with Scleto Hansen's husband, Giovanni Rabizi, and
Speaker 1: there's she it's a bit uncomfortable because Scullion Hands is
Speaker 1: kind of there and she's kind of going, you know,
Speaker 1: just praising, you know, I'm being very Hollywood and the
Speaker 1: bit that sunds maybe a bit fake. You're not sure
Speaker 1: it's fake or genuine. And supposedly because the whole Loston translation,
Speaker 1: Scalio Hansen's character is based on Sophia Coppola and her
Speaker 1: marriage with Spike Jones, the director, and reportedly that character
Speaker 1: that Anna Faris plays is based on Cameron Dean. Really
Speaker 1: that she has since said that it's untrue and it's
Speaker 1: actually a combination of people, but that means it's definitely
Speaker 1: But it gives us.
Speaker 2: Another link between us and Translation and Fear and Loathing Las.
Speaker 6: Vegas, which is exactly what we needed to find.
Speaker 2: I think this is what the new podcast is going
Speaker 2: to be now.
Speaker 1: I watched one film, my guest watches another, and then
Speaker 1: we work out what the connection is.
Speaker 6: You send a list of six movies and see which ones,
Speaker 6: and we just hope that it's opens the same one.
Speaker 2: We cross our fingers don't and.
Speaker 6: Your guess has to not read the message underneath No
Speaker 6: under yeah, what you choose. We can't read what you
Speaker 6: chose at any point.
Speaker 1: No, that's a new podcast next week, Daniel Connell, thanks
Speaker 1: for your time.
Speaker 6: Thanks Pete cheers.
Speaker 4: There was only one rule back to my age Us
Speaker 4: and Steak fifteen, that was how we deal with things
Speaker 4: that you ain't seen nothing yet. It wasn't the ideal start,
Speaker 4: but I love Dan, He's such a funny, lovely guy,
Speaker 4: and I thought we made up maybe our first twenty
Speaker 4: minute edition if you ain't seen Nothing yet. But I
Speaker 4: think we managed to navigate through the weirdness of Dan
Speaker 4: watching the wrong movie, and we spoke about fear and
Speaker 4: loathing in Las Vegas and apologies for those who loved
Speaker 4: that movie, and maybe we haven't done.
Speaker 2: It the justice that it deserves.
Speaker 1: It Well, apologize when we come back to it, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe way down the track. But Dan had his notes
Speaker 1: and had his thoughts on the movie. I tried to
Speaker 1: help out by recollecting my thoughts of seeing the movie
Speaker 1: that I was reasonably underwhelmed with many years ago. But
Speaker 1: there was plenty of Johnny depth to talk and Terry
Speaker 1: Gilliam and drug taking in general. So thank you Dan
Speaker 1: once again, and we will cover loss in translation at
Speaker 1: another time.
Speaker 2: It is a wonderful movie and deserves a deep dive
Speaker 2: into that.
Speaker 1: Only two more episodes ago for this season before we
Speaker 1: take a very quick break. It won't be as long
Speaker 1: as the break we took over summer. It'll be like
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I'll let you know more details
Speaker 1: next week. We have a wonderful friend of mine, somebody
Speaker 1: who's a genuine presence on the Australian show Be Seen,
Speaker 1: and that is Hamish McDonald, Yes, the host of the
Speaker 1: Sunday Project and often comes in when Walid has an
Speaker 1: upset tummy. And he is such a lovely guy, a
Speaker 1: smart guy, such integrity, is funny, thoughtful, and he's watching
Speaker 1: a movie and I have no idea if he's gonna
Speaker 1: love it, and it's one of my favorite movies. In fact,
Speaker 1: I think I consider this almost a perfect movie.
Speaker 2: Is it a classic?
Speaker 1: Well, it's a cult classic from two thousand and two
Speaker 1: from Paul Thomas Anderson. We have covered Boogie Nights, We've
Speaker 1: covered There Will be Blood. This is the third Paul
Speaker 1: Thomas Anderson movie we are covering, Punch Drunk Love, Adam Sandler,
Speaker 1: Emily Watson. It's Adam Sandler's our first serious movie role
Speaker 1: and the one that just set a new standard for
Speaker 1: what he is capable of dramatically. I love Port Thomas Anderson.
Speaker 1: I love Adam Sandler. I love this movie. If you
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, please watch it. Please watch it before
Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast. I know some people don't
Speaker 1: always watch a movie before I listen to the podcasts.
Speaker 1: Watch this movie before you listen to Hamish McDonald and
Speaker 1: myself took Punstrunk Love. Next week's also I got my
Speaker 1: double Ganger, the late great Philip Simohoffman.
Speaker 2: It is wonderful.
Speaker 6: I love it.
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Speaker 1: We're in a bit of a rush right now, so
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Speaker 1: So if you can do that, I would really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Casway Studios is where we are. Derek my thank you
Speaker 1: very much for everything you do putting this podcast together.
Speaker 1: Two weeks to go, but next week ham Is McDonald
Speaker 1: past rank, love poor Thomas Anderson.
Speaker 2: Until then, take care
Speaker 6: And so we leave old Pete, save fan soul, and
Speaker 6: to our friends of the radio audience, we've been a
Speaker 6: pleasant good night.