1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: That is so manifact. Thank you, Welcome back to Outspoken Now. 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 1: This weekend, Anastasia kings North got me thinking about how 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: so many of us grew up mispronouncing the names of 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: everyday things. So in her most recent vlog, she mispronounced 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: minute steaks as minute steaks. Let's have a listen to 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: what she said, and we're going to Bill's. And I 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: always have the same thing every time I go to Bill's. 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Starts the happy Mistakes for Maine. I have the minute steak. 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it minute steak? Or it's not minute steak? 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Is it now? It's minutes It's a thin steak with 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: the egg on top of the chips. Gosh. I can 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: really relate to this because I used to call pizza 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: hut pizza heart as in h E. Aart. And I 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: think I was twelve when I realized that I had 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: been mispronouncing it the whole time. Like, have you guys 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: had things that you've got wrong for years? Well, I 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: think the most embarrassing one is probably that our mum 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: would always refer to curry as curry in a hurry. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: So it wasn't until I was about twenty years old 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: and I repeated that to a boyfriend at the time 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: that he was like, what are you talking about? Wait, 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: so you thought currying in a hurry was a specific 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: curry dish or you just thought curry was called curry 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: in a hurry thought it was its full name. It's 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: a bit like how our mum used to say that 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: we had sleepy men in our eyes. So for those 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: who don't know what that means, I'm hoping there are 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: some people that actually do, but it's called a lot 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: of other people call it sleep so it's like that 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: gunk in your eye when you wake up. That sleepy 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: man thing really shocked me on many levels, but it's 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: kind of making me think that perhaps it's our mum 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: who was getting everything wrong. I'm really curious to find 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: out if listeners also have this happen to them. Have 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: your parents led you down the garden path with these 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: sort of words. I actually just remembered one more thing 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: that mum used to tell us that was wrong, and 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: I would love to know if anyone else is the same. 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: My mum told us that if you wore a necklace 45 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: to bed that you could get strangled. I have to 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: say I wear a necklace to bed every night and 47 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: it has not happened yet. Let's put up a thread 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: in our Facebook community and people can put in words 49 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: that they've been mispronouncing wrong for years and also lies 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: their parents have told them growing up. Yes, a fuck 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: a duchcout bollow, It's never been holland no I have 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: was the West dam on the thirteen's football tour, oh right? 53 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: And what you do to you when you're twelve that 54 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: was so filthy? Give you a blow job in a windmill? 55 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Bank you off with clogs. Margo Robbie has revealed she's 56 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: a massive fan of Love Island UK. She's such a 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: big fan that she even held a Love Island themed 58 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: birthday party this year. Now this weekend, Hugo Hammond, who 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: was recently booted from the villa, sent Margo Robbie a 60 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: birthday message using cameo and this is what he had 61 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: to say. 62 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: Hi, Margot, is Hugo here. I'm fresh out the Love 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 2: Island villa, and I hear you are a massive super fan. 64 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: I also hear that you celebrated your birthday with a 65 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: Love Island theme party, so I'd just like to say 66 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: a happy birthday for the other day. And you are 67 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: one hundred percent my type on paper and if you 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: came into the villa, my head would definitely have been turned. 69 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Catch you soon. All the best and cheers. 70 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: Poor Hugo, it seems like he's not having any luck 71 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: outside of the villa as well, because his chances with 72 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: Margo Robbie are pretty much non existent. She is happily 73 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: married to film producer Tom Ackley. Well. Margo's actually on 74 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: a promotional tour for her new movie, The Suicide Squad, 75 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: and she told reporters that Love Island is a huge 76 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: part of her life, and she also revealed her favorite 77 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Islanders over the years have been Olivia Atwood from season 78 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: three and Maura Higgins from season five, and this is 79 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: due to the fact that Olivia coined the term dixand 80 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: and she did really appreciate the fact that Maura Higgins 81 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: kept saying, Fanny flutters I just love that Margo Robbie 82 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: is just like one of us. She's a massive Love 83 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Island fan. She's one of the people, and so much 84 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: so that she fangirld overseeing Jordan and Michael from a 85 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: couple of series ago on the red carpet at her 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: own movie premiere. So that was of Birds of Prey, 87 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: and Jordan was interviewed about it, and he said that 88 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: they were on the red carpet and saw someone running 89 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: up to them screaming, and they're like, who is that 90 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: and they realized it was Margot Robbie. So then she 91 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: invited them out to an after party, and they've said 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: that they'd gone back to their hotel and were sitting 93 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: in their jocks eating dominoes, and they've never moved so 94 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: quickly to go meet up. It's funny because I feel 95 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: like Margot Robbie is legitimately Hugo's perfect type from what 96 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: he's explained, and seeing a photo of his ex girlfriend, 97 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I feel like she would be great for him if 98 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: only she wasn't married. We need to share the photos 99 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: from Margo Robbie's Love Island theme birthday party in our 100 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: Facebook community because they are absolutely epic. Her and her 101 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: friends are all standing around in bikinis and high hills 102 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: with sunglasses on, and they look like they're at their 103 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: own sort of villa. I reckon. It's Brandon's birthday coming 104 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: up at the end of October, and he's really gotten 105 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: into Love Island this year. He keeps telling me to 106 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: stop telling people that he likes that. Maybe it was 107 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: to have Love Island theme party for him. So the 108 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: way you said the way you said October reminded me 109 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: of the way that Chloe says, Taybe, you're like h tabord, 110 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: that's a worry picking up their accents. I would really 111 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: like to see Branna's Love Island theme birthday party happen 112 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: because I've just discovered the website which literally lists every 113 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: single thing that the contestants wear on the show, and 114 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: it's bloody cheap. Oh, we'd have to get some of 115 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: those cups with the palm trees on them. I feel 116 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: like they're a masked do you know how sad I am. 117 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: I've actually googled where you get them from. I think 118 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: they're from Marks and Spencer, but the shipping's quite expensive. 119 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: I also want the rainbow colored champagne glasses and wine glasses. Yeah, 120 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: I just want the drink bottles, to be honest with 121 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: my name on it. That's what's missing from Margo's photo 122 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: and not trying to be critical, she doesn't have the 123 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: drink bottles. Actually, I don't want to. 124 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Fucking speak to you right now because I don't want 125 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: to scream at you. 126 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: I can't scream at me. I want to speak to 127 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: you so speed, but I. 128 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: Don't want to speak to you because right now you 129 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: look like two face prick. 130 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: Big Brother VIP has begun filming in Sea, with big 131 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: name celebrities like Caitlin Jennet venturing down under for the 132 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: opportunity to compete. Some of the other notable contestants include 133 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: influencer Josh Carroll, footballer Dane Beams, Jessica Power from maths. 134 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: Imagen Anthony, who is Kyle Sandland's ex girlfriend also a 135 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: former advisor to President Trump, is also appearing, as well 136 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: as Meghan Markles half brother Thomas Markle. So Megan Mirkles brother, 137 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: that's the one that's replacing Katie Hopkins, isn't it. Yeah, 138 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: So Katie Hopkins. She actually got deported after boasting about 139 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: flouting hotel quarantine rules, and there are rumors that she 140 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: got to keep all the money. I think it was 141 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: rumored that she was getting paid two hundred thousand dollars 142 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: and she's pocketed that. But they are roomoured to be 143 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: paying Meghan Markle's brother a hefty figure. I think it's 144 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: around four hundred thousand dollars so far. Isn't it quite 145 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: interesting that they get rid of Katie Hopkins, who presumably 146 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: was going to be very critical of the royal family, 147 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: and replace her with Meghan Markles's brother, who she's clearly 148 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: feuding with. They desperately want to get promotion for this 149 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: show on a global stage. Well, it seems like they're 150 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: getting a lot of international publicity because Caitlyn Jenna is 151 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: already causing headlines around the world. So she's currently in 152 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: the middle of a campaign for governor of California, and 153 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, Caitlyn copped criticism after she was spotted 154 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: smoking a cigarette on her hotel balcony. So she was 155 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: spotted by photographers who were taking photos of her, and 156 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: she just flicked her cigarette butt off the balcony. Now 157 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: this wasn't towards the photographers, but they've captured photos of 158 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: her flicking the cigarette butt off, and people are saying that, 159 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: what if this cigarette butt had germs on it? Because 160 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: of course she's in quarantine because she's been in the US. 161 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Isn't that just like saying, well, what if something that 162 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: she's touched within her hotel room, like a food packaging, 163 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: then goes out and is in the public Like that 164 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: to me is just pretty stupid. They actually do take 165 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: things like that into consideration. That's why they have a 166 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: very strategic plan when removing people's food. And should they 167 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: not be allowed to have cigarettes there? Yeah, but I 168 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: think yeah, but they're meant to be putting in an 169 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: ash tray, They're not meant to be flicking off the 170 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: side of the bow. And I think people are also 171 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: annoyed because she was quarantine quarantining in Sydney, and this 172 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: is of course when Sydney is in a big lockdown 173 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: and people are pissed that celebrities and also politicians are 174 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: able to fly around wherever they want. It was actually 175 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: really interesting because Carl and JACKIEO actually interviewed Prime Minister 176 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: Scott Morrison and they asked him about the incident. And 177 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he'd been brief that they were going 178 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: to talk to him about it, and he said it 179 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: was a police matter, and he said COVID or no COVID, 180 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: it's not cool. He also said, I don't think people 181 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: should be flicking cigarettes off balconies anytime anyway. Well, I 182 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: tend to agree with Scott Morrison, particularly for the fact, 183 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: as you've stated, Amy, Caitlyn Jenna is in a very 184 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: privileged position of being allowed to enter our country. There 185 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: are so many people trying to get back into their 186 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: home country of Australia who cannot get in yet there 187 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: has been preference put to these people simply to make 188 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: a television show. So I think that's why people are 189 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: getting upset. I find it interesting that you say that 190 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: about Scott Morrison when he's the one that's allowed people 191 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: like Caitlyn Jennet to come into our country with exemptions. 192 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: Just moving back to the pay packets some of these 193 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: celebrities are getting so according to the Daily Mail, Caitlyn 194 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: Jenna is pocketing five hundred thousand dollars for her appearance. 195 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: But it's quite funny because people like Jessica Power and 196 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: also Imogen Anthony, who's Kyle Sandlin's ex girlfriend. They're getting 197 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars each. I suppose it's an extra fifteen 198 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: minutes of fame for Jessica Power as well. This would 199 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: be an enormous branding exercise for them, and they're also 200 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: getting to rub shoulders with some very famous people who 201 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: can only boost their profile more. I'm surprised they're not 202 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: paying to be on the show themselves, considering their celebrity status. Well, 203 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: I just think it would truly be amazing to be 204 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: living in a house with Caitlyn Jenna, though, because imagine 205 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: all of the secrets that she has about the Kardashians 206 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: and all of the interesting people she's met over the years. 207 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm surprised Martha isn't on this show because she obviously 208 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: is a bit of a wannabe Kardashian. I'm sure that 209 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: Caitlyn Jenna would take her under her wing. It's probably 210 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: because she's aligned herself with Channel nine from Celebrity Apprentice. 211 00:09:59,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 212 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: Well, I actually did not watch Big Brother this year, 213 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: but I will be watching Big Brother VIP because I 214 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: actually think they've done a really good job casting it. 215 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: I really hope that they don't have all of these 216 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: bullshit tasks like I do on the current Big Brother. 217 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: I really hope we get to hear these people's stories 218 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: and just see them interacting a bit like Love Island. 219 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: You never know, it might be a test to go 220 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: back to Big Brother's regular format if it works for 221 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: this Big Brother VIP. I need Courtney to not be 222 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: so funny with a stick of her asse like she 223 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: runs this because she doesn't. She's the least exciting to 224 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: look at. Danny Mansuiti has been documenting her move back 225 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: to Australia from the UK. So she explained that she 226 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: is going to be CouchSurfing in the UK for the 227 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks before a trip to Mickinos and 228 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: finally her return home to Australia. Now, she has explained 229 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: how she is packing essential items in two suitcases, so 230 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: one suitcase is packed for Australia and the other suitcase 231 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: is packed for her trip now. She has also previously 232 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: open about how money is quite tight for her at 233 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the moment and she is trying to save where she 234 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: can with this move now. As we've previously spoken on 235 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: the podcast, Danny said that she hasn't earned any sort 236 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: of income for the past year from social media, and 237 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: she's also spent a lot of money on her breasting 238 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: plant surgery and also from her flight back to Australia. 239 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: A couple of months ago, Danny's flights to Mickinos were 240 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: canceled from London and moved to Manchester, which, for those 241 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: who are unfamiliar with the UK, Manchester is on the 242 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: other side of the country to London. So she decided 243 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: to be sensible and get a bus to Manchester as 244 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: opposed to a train, as it was a lot cheaper. 245 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: Now this is where she ran into a bit of trouble. 246 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: So three hours into her seven hour bus trip to Manchester, 247 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: she realizes that her passport is in her other suitcase 248 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: that is back at her friend's house in London. So 249 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: she is sitting on this bus ride for seven hours 250 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: thinking what the hell am I going to do? Because 251 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: her flight to Mickinos was that morning at seven a m. 252 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: So what was supposed to be a cheap trip has 253 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: turned in to costing her over two hundred and eighty pounds. 254 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: So as soon as she finished her seven hour bus trip, 255 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: she had to then book a train back to London 256 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: and now she has missed her flight completely to Michonos. 257 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of the time when Mum 258 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: and Dad weat holidaying in the UK and Dad had 259 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: given Mum so much shit about the fact. I think 260 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: it was like fifteen years ago she accidentally threw two 261 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: hundred dollars in the bin. Anyway, when they were going 262 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: back to catch their flight home, Dad realized that he 263 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: left his wallet in their UK hotel room and there 264 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: was no way they could go back otherwise they would 265 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: have missed their flight. And Mum has loved it every 266 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: day since because she's been able to give him shit 267 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: about it. I feel like it's one of my biggest 268 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: fears to lose or forget my passport. Like I feel 269 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: like that is just what is so anxiety inducing every 270 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: time you go on an overseas trip. It is. I 271 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: feel so bad. She would have had the worst, you know, 272 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: when your heart would her heart would have dropped. It 273 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: was pretty funny because at the end of this she 274 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: showed her tucking her passport into bed with her. I mean, 275 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: she had a bit of fun with it, but it 276 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: would have been so frustrating. I can just imagine what 277 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: you would have been like, Sophie if that was you, Like, 278 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: I would not want to have been on the seven 279 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: hour train ride with you because I feel like this 280 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: is something you would do. Yeah, the worst thing when 281 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to cut corners and save money and be 282 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: really crafty and then you get absolutely screwed over in 283 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: the end and end up paying so much more money. 284 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: It's actually the passport thing reminds me of a story 285 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: that Dale's sister told me that when Dale was younger, 286 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: he went on a holiday with her and her husband 287 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: to Thailand, and apparently that had quite a number of 288 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: drinks one night, and in the morning she went to 289 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: greet Dale and she found him in his hotel room, 290 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: passed out, and his passport was just on the side 291 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: next to him in bed, and he just had like 292 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: his wallet there as well. So all of these things 293 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: could have been stolen. 294 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: I hate touching beacons. 295 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: It's gross. 296 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: So I take Yes. 297 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called, but at work, if 298 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: I opened a restaurant, it will be called that's Heart. 299 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton has launched a TV comeback fourteen years after 300 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: the last episode of The Simple Life aired. The timing 301 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: comes amid a cultural moment where society reflects upon the 302 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: treatment of young female celebrities in the nineties and naughties. 303 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Paris's return to TV has many people wondering whether she 304 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: deserves reappraisal. So, firstly, Kate, can you tell us about 305 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: Paris's new TV show? Well, I for one, was very 306 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: shocked to find out that Paris has launched her own 307 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: self hosted cooking show called Cooking with Paris Now. The 308 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: show launched on Netflix on August fourth, and came about 309 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: after executive producer Aaron Sedman saw a YouTube video of 310 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Paris cooking a lasagna Now. The video was uploaded in 311 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: January twenty twenty and has since gone viral with over 312 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: five million views. The interesting thing about the video is 313 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: it's actually just really chilled. You know, she's got like 314 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: a messy counter in the YouTube video, and I find 315 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: it pretty incredible that after watching this YouTube, they've gone, Okay, 316 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: we'll give you a Netflix show. It kind of shows 317 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: the power of YouTube at the moment. It's funny because 318 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: a Netflix show is nothing like that. I mean, Paris 319 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: is fumbling her way through cooking recipes, but she's got 320 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: to let her celebrity friends there, like Kim Kudashian and 321 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: Demi Lovado. I do remember on The Simple Life that 322 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: they used to try and teach Nicole and Paris both 323 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: to cook, and they were absolutely hopeless cooks. Is that 324 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: kind of the same way that Paris is cooking now? 325 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: Is it all a bit of a joke? Yeah, that 326 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: definitely is the case. However, her kitchen is well and 327 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: truly equipped for a chef. The producers have put a 328 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: lot of attention to detail in the cooking utensils at 329 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: Paris users. So she's got cookie cutter shape like the 330 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Chanell logo, and she also has this really blinked out 331 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: spoon with crystals all over it. Now, for younger listeners, 332 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: I feel like we've got to run quickly through who 333 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton is. So Paris is part of the Hilton family, 334 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: who are hospitality tycoons. And she rose to fame after 335 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: a stint as a model with Donald Trump's agency, and 336 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: also after a very infamous sex tape featuring her was 337 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: Lee Now. She went on to star in the reality 338 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: show The Simple Life alongside her best friend Nicole Ritchie, 339 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: and Paris was really famous for carrying around tinker Bell, 340 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: her little chihuahua, in her handbag and She also is 341 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: very famous for terming the phrase that's hot. I found 342 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: it hilarious because did you guys know that Paris actually 343 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: sued Hallmark for using her phrase that hot because they 344 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: printed a card with her photo on it with that's 345 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: hot next to you? Is that because she copyrighted it? Though, yeah, 346 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: she's trademarked that's hot. So she actually managed to successfully 347 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: sue Hallmark for using the phrase. I'm really surprised that 348 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: she needed the money in that instance because she has 349 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: made a fortune for herself. So since The Simple Life, 350 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: she has released seventeen fragrances, which alone have produced more 351 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: than one point three billion dollars. In two thousand and six, 352 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: which was really the prime of her popularity, she released 353 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: a song called Stars a Blind, which went to number 354 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: six on the Billboard charts, and she's also dropped nine 355 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: promotional songs since. And in twenty fourteen, she was the 356 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: highest page DJ, earning one million dollars per set. I've 357 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: got to say that's what I did love about the 358 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: YouTube documentary in Paris's life, the fact that they followed 359 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: her while she was doing DJ gigs, because I've never 360 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: really seen her in action, and to be honest. She 361 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: was actually a really really good dj M. Yeah. Well 362 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: she had a residency for five years, so she must 363 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: be pretty good at it. One thing that really surprised 364 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: me is that I've always wondered how much Paris Hilton 365 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: is actually worth, because there's so many conversations about her 366 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: grandfather being filthy rich, and he definitely is filthy rich. 367 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: He is worth four point five billion dollars and Paris 368 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: Hilton has her own net worth of three hundred million dollars. 369 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: That surprises me because in her YouTube documentary she was 370 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: saying that she really wants to reach a billion dollars. Yeah, 371 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: and I thought she was closer to that than what 372 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: she is. Well, she's had a billion dollar company with 373 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: her perfumes. However, it hasn't helped that her grandpa, Baron 374 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Hilton did not actually leave her family as much as 375 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: everyone thought that he would in the will. So in 376 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and four he came out and actually said 377 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: he was going to donate ninety seven percent of his 378 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: fortune to a charity. So when he did sadly pass 379 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: away in twenty nineteen, he left three percent of his 380 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: money to his eight children, fifteen grandchildren, and four great grandchildren, 381 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: So that came to one hundred and thirty five million dollars. 382 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't mind that. So when you split 383 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: that up evenly between all the family, Paris got five 384 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: point six million dollars. However, there are rumors that Paris's 385 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: grandfather actually cut her out of the will for embarrassing 386 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: the Hilton family name. Well, I don't even think Paris 387 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: was necessarily relying on his money anyway, because, as you said, 388 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: she's been able to make a lot of it herself. 389 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: Do you know what surprises me? You hear that Kylie 390 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: Jenner is a billionaire, and you think how young she 391 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: is compared to Paris Hilton and the amount of perfume 392 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: that Paris Hilton assault. My god, Kylie Jenner must have 393 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: sold some lip kits in her time. Yeah, but I 394 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: suppose when you think about when Paris was in her prime, 395 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: she didn't have Instagram, it could have been a completely 396 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: different story, particularly with her perfumes. I mean, her perfume 397 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: company is worth one point three billion dollars. Imagine how 398 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: much it would have been worth with the backing of Instagram. Well, 399 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: were you guys surprised by Paris's return to TV now. 400 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by it at all. I don't think 401 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: that the timing of her return was any accident. I 402 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: think it was really strategically planned out. We're currently at 403 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: a cultural moment where we're really rethinking the way we 404 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: treated young female celebrities back in the nineties and naughties, 405 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: and I also feel like Naughty's nostalgia is taking over 406 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: our social media feeds at the moment. You only have 407 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: to look at the new celeb Spellcheck and also podcasts 408 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: like Ladu You Remember This and Pieces of Brittany to 409 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: see this new wave of interest in those times. Yeah. 410 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: I tend to agree, Sophie. I think with the revelations 411 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: around the mistreatment of Britney Spears, it does appear Paris 412 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: is trying to strike in the time of reappraisal. I 413 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: found this quote from journalist Daniel di Adro from The 414 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: Variety really interesting. He spoke about how our culture is 415 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: looking back in time to see what interpretations work a 416 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: decade ago that doesn't fit today's mood. He then used 417 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: the example of Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck rekindling their romance, 418 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: and he said, at the height of their fame in 419 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: two thousand and three, they were considered fame hungry and 420 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: distasteful for flaunting their passion and wealth. However, almost twenty 421 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: years later, we are now celebrating their recoupling as a 422 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: love story that we needed right now. It is interesting 423 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: because with Paris Hilton, she was mistreated by the media 424 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: and her whole career was launched off the back of 425 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: a sex tape that was filmed and released without her consent, 426 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: and she has gone on in twenty twenty to reveal 427 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: that she was abused at a boarding school. She also 428 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: said that when she moved to the Waldorf for Story 429 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: a hotel at eighteen, her family didn't give her anything 430 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: and she had to make it on her own, using 431 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: her wits to become the mogul that she is today. 432 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: What I found really interesting was in twenty twenty, she 433 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: also revealed that her ditsy persona was an act, including 434 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: the fake baby voice she's very well known for. So ultimately, 435 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: she said that she acted like a shallow, unintelligent party 436 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: girl because that's how she found success, and she found 437 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: it very difficult to move away from that character. I 438 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: find it really interesting now because you can see some 439 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: really big similarities between the persona Paris put on and 440 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: that to the one that Jessica Simpson put on. So 441 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands, it seemed like women were 442 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: very much rewarded for being attractive, blonde, and ditzy. And 443 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: it's really ironic now because both women are now worth 444 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars and they both run their 445 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: own billion dollar empire. If you watch the first series 446 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: of Keeping Up with the Kardashians, Kim Kardashian also put 447 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: on that baby voice and took a completely different persona. 448 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: And I do find it so fascinating that in the 449 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: naughties it was so popular for women to act this way, 450 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: and I'm so glad we're pushing against that now and 451 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: realizing that it's great for women to be intelligent and 452 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: successful and powerful. We don't have to pretend to be 453 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: less than we are. I suppose that's why I was 454 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: a little bit interested to see how Paris would act 455 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: on her new cooking show, because she's come out and 456 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: said that the persona she put on was fake, so 457 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: I was not sure what to expect on her cooking show. 458 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: And when I first heard the title of the show, 459 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: I thought maybe we might be seeing a more wholesome 460 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: and relatable side to Paris. However, as soon as you 461 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: watch the trailer, you knew that you were getting the 462 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton character because throughout the series, Paris claims that 463 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: she doesn't know what tongs or a whisk is, and 464 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: she also washes a full turkey with bottled water. I 465 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: think the difference is though, that it's quite clear that 466 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: she's willing to make fun of herself in this series. 467 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: I do find it really interesting that Paris's celebrity status 468 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: has never been based on being relatable. In fact, there's 469 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: really the complete opposite, because she has built her career 470 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: on being out of touch with reality, whether it's in 471 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: a joky way or not. The Simple Life was based 472 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: on the premise that Paris and are best friend Nicole 473 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: really struggled to do manual, low paying jobs. Yeah, it's 474 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: a really good point because you compare Paris's cooking show 475 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: to other people like Christy Tagan who are well known 476 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: for cooking, and Christy Tagan comes off as really related 477 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: when she cooks despite her fortunes. However, Paris is not 478 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: like that at all. She's always played a character and 479 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: is totally in character on this new show. The only 480 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: difference to the Simple Life really is that, as I 481 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: said before, she's openly in on the joke, and as 482 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: I said, you can see her really playing up to 483 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: the joke. I did found a quote in an article 484 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: from The Eater really interesting. The journalist said, the spoiled, 485 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: out of touch version of Paris is mockable yet appealing. 486 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: The down to earth version is unbelievable. Given the celebrity 487 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: and circumstance that led to the creation of this show, 488 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: how do you balance being in on the joke when 489 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: the joke is you. This is a question that Hilton 490 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: and her fame will continue to hang on. Amy, I'd 491 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: love to hear your thoughts. Do you think this type 492 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: of reevaluation works for someone like Paris Hilton in terms 493 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: of our reevaluation. I definitely think there is a big 494 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: difference between Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. Of course, Paris 495 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: Hilton she has been through some awful things. She was 496 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: abused as a teenager, and she was also mistreated by 497 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: the media, so she definitely deserves our kindness and compassion. 498 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: But I think the question of whether she deserves our 499 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: continued attention is a really complicated one. So a journalists 500 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: from Variety summarize it really well. He wrote, based on 501 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: cooking with Paris, she hasn't earned it. There simply aren't 502 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: two decades worth of interest in the character of a 503 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: terminally bored person, and the Hilton image coexists uncomfortably with 504 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: heightened awareness of inequality throughout our society. Who was going 505 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: to root for a person, even a fictional one, overlaying 506 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: the real Hilton, who quite literally makes a show of 507 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: her lack of interest in reaching beyond the protection of wealth. 508 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: So the journalist also went on to say, while Paris 509 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: isn't hurting anyone, if she wants us to keep watching, 510 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: at some point she needs to actually create something greater 511 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: and more lasting than a pose. Now do you guys 512 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: think this is a fair summary of Paris? Is she 513 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: just offering us a few quotes and poses? Or is 514 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: it more now that she's created this cooking show. Look, 515 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: from my opinion, I was really excited to watch the 516 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: first episode, but I quickly found that Paris didn't really 517 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: have a presence on camera, and she really was, I 518 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: suppose supported by her friend Kim Kardashian and it was 519 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: interesting seeing the two together because it was quite clear 520 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: that Kim had her shit together, she knew how to cook. 521 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: She seemed a lot more down to earth and someone 522 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: that you could relate to, whereas Paris was kind of 523 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: just standing there trying to She's trying to make her 524 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: new saying sliving happen. She kept trying to like say 525 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: this phrase that she's come up with, and it seemed 526 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: like a desperate attempt to kind of go back to 527 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: the good old days when her that's hot catch phrase 528 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: was actually a thing. It was very similar to mean 529 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: Girls when Gretchen Wieners tries to make fetch happen and 530 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: it's like, it's not going to happen. 531 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 532 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, for those who don't know what sliving means, she 533 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: came up with the term in twenty nineteen, and it 534 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: is a combination of slaying and living your best life. 535 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: I just can't see it taking off though it's in 536 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: the urban dictionary. I can I reckon. What's going to 537 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: happen is a lot of Paris's quotes are going to 538 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: end up on TikTok and people are going to be 539 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: saying that quite over and over in videos and will 540 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: go off. The thing that I feel a little bit 541 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: uncomfortable about watching this is I just don't think that 542 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, I'm really buying the whole dumb persona. 543 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 544 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: I feel like the fact that Paris has evolved so 545 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: much as a person, we've seen her really grow over 546 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. Could you not have just 547 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: come on this show and been herself? I do agree 548 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: with what you're saying, so, but I think the difference 549 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: here is that Paris is actually in on the joke 550 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: this time. It's very different to On The Simple Life, 551 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: when they were pretending that that's what she's really like. 552 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: So I feel like it's this greater than life character 553 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: that they've created, particularly at the start, because Paris is 554 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: seen in a pink ball gown with a bedazzled mask 555 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: in the shopping center, pretending that she's never been and 556 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: it's quite obvious so she has been and that she's 557 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: playing it all up. And I did enjoy that aspect 558 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: of it, because it is really nostalgic to see Paris 559 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: Hilton in twenty twenty one and see I mean, she 560 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: looks exactly the same like me. A lot of people 561 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: were surprised to see Paris Hilton front a cooking show, 562 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: but she actually is just one of many celebrities to 563 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: join a growing trend. It has been a real trend 564 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: we've been seeing with famous women in their thirties and 565 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: forties to turn to cooking to either continue to find 566 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: an audience when their TV or movie roles start dropping off, 567 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: or alternatively, to extend their business empires. We've seen celebrities 568 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: like Gwyneth Pultrow, Trisha Yearwood, and Chrissy Tigue and successfully 569 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: grow cooking brands within their already successful careers. Yeah, and 570 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: also people like Kristen Cavaliery, Eva Longoria and Elisa Silverstone. 571 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: They've also managed to use cooking to remain in the 572 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: spotlight and push these sort of lifestyle aspirations on their 573 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: social media. But I feel like no matter who the 574 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: celebrity is, they usually have the storyline that the person 575 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: loves to cook despite their busy life and all of 576 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: their riches. Well, I suppose the tabloids have long capitalized 577 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: on stars being just like us, and I suppose what 578 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: is more relatable than cooking. Well, I think that's all 579 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: we have time for. 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