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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning one W.

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Speaker 2: Satham.

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Speaker 1: Our next guest is best known as the excitable sports

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Speaker 1: announcer HG. Nelson, one half of iconic comedy duo roy

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Speaker 1: In HG.

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Speaker 2: The Brains of the Operation.

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Speaker 1: Well, of course he's been on our radios in our

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Speaker 1: TV since nineteen eighty six. Greek pickhaver a familiar voice

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Speaker 1: to Australians for five decades. But now he's exposing not himself,

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Speaker 1: the hidden histories of Australian cities. Then THERE'SBS series Secrets

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Speaker 1: of Our Cities.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Greig, Amanda. Great to be here, Great to be

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Speaker 3: locking horns with you and Jonesy. And I'll try and

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Speaker 3: keep HG in the cupboard.

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Speaker 1: Where does HGN and you begin? Do you know anymore?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I no, No, that's quite easy to do, quite

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Speaker 3: easy line to draw it. I often have to say

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Speaker 3: the director on this show, the Secrets of the Cities,

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Speaker 3: watch out for letting too much HG in here, especially

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Speaker 3: when we come to some of the topics, like on

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Speaker 3: the last Sunday show we were talking at one point

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Speaker 3: to Fred Vella, who's a guy who was a karate experts.

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Speaker 3: Many other things came from Malta, relocated the Gold Coast

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Speaker 3: and decided to raise money by smashing a house with

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Speaker 3: his bare hands.

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Speaker 2: So that's a natural, that's territory, right.

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Speaker 3: I have to say to the watch out, are we

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Speaker 3: going to get into trouble. It's an incredible story of

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Speaker 3: raising money for a hospital in Malta, and so he decided,

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Speaker 3: oh well, I'll raise some money by demolishing a house.

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Speaker 3: Tells great stories about fashing his way through doors and

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Speaker 3: systems and all this sort of stuff, and cab drivers

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Speaker 3: would stop and walk in and give him twenty bucks

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. He said it was the most amazing.

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Speaker 2: Because it would be our cistern. Easy. Yeah, that parcel

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Speaker 2: and stuff's easy. You're going to watch out for the shards.

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Speaker 2: But when you what about Rsj's and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: While I go with the big.

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Speaker 3: Beams, can I suggest that it may have been a

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Speaker 3: weatherboard house.

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Speaker 1: Made a bunge?

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Speaker 3: I know, he says. Still. I mean he's older than

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Speaker 3: me and he's very lively.

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Speaker 1: So is this series about finding characters and stories in

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Speaker 1: the suburbs.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a bit more than that. What obviously

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Speaker 3: Australia is built up by wave after wave after wave

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Speaker 3: of migration, and what was the idea is is to

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Speaker 3: try and indicate the people who think it's ever thus

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Speaker 3: meaning out the frontier or wherever you go across Australia,

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Speaker 3: and to try and explain to people that this has

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Speaker 3: taken a long time to get to this point and

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Speaker 3: that people's ideas have changed throughout all of this time.

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Speaker 1: This week, you're looking at Calgooley. What have you learned

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Speaker 1: about Kashuley?

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Speaker 3: Okay, cal Gooley. There were several things there, and some

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Speaker 3: of the things are obvious. Get this the I'm there

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Speaker 3: and we're filming, and I'm thinking, well, this is a

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Speaker 3: bit odd this people in town and they don't look

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Speaker 3: like locals in otherwise, they didn't have picks over their

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Speaker 3: shoulders and you know metal detectors, et cetera that they

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Speaker 3: And then I realized that there was some sort of

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Speaker 3: conference going on and what was the conference about. It

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Speaker 3: was about wood. And I look into this person blankly,

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Speaker 3: you're kidding me about wood? And in Calgooley and the

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Speaker 3: reserves and the natural parks and so on, they have

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Speaker 3: more different species of wood growing there than anywhere else

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Speaker 3: in the world. It's hard to imagine this just exactly exactly,

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Speaker 3: So it's what it's not like, it's a low rainfall,

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Speaker 3: and obviously it is considered in certain parts desert, but

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Speaker 3: they have these most incredible.

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Speaker 2: Trees because prostitution is a big thing there too as well.

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Speaker 1: It's another form of wood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is now you get into it now.

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Speaker 1: That the impression of Kargooly, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: It is? It is, and that impression has been popularized

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Speaker 3: for the tourist industry at the moment. This is very

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Speaker 3: hard to read because obviously, originally there was brothels all

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Speaker 3: along Hay Street, and the way the council and the

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Speaker 3: local authorities dealt with that was really interesting, a lot

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Speaker 3: of which I would say when people look at it,

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Speaker 3: I'd take with a grain of salt, meaning I don't

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Speaker 3: think it was as benign as it sounds in telling

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Speaker 3: it from this view of history. All of this, as

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Speaker 3: we know, has changed dramat because of online activity and

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Speaker 3: the online world of hookups. For one of putting, it

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Speaker 3: has dramatically changed the need to actually see people and think, well,

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Speaker 3: this would be a good idea to go there rather

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Speaker 3: than there. But it is true that there was a

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Speaker 3: big part of the business of the town and one

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Speaker 3: of the great things there was. There's this AFL footy

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Speaker 3: players to play for Essendon called Epis alec Epis and

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Speaker 3: he tells the most amazing stories of being a child

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Speaker 3: and working for his dad. In the mind this is

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Speaker 3: a legacy mining, somebody else owns it and new do

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Speaker 3: the digging. And he tells these stories of being on

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Speaker 3: the in the shaft in the bucket, going down and

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Speaker 3: then going out at the level as they call it

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Speaker 3: where they're doing the mining, and his dad was going

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Speaker 3: to blow up the section that they needed to work

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Speaker 3: on next and Alex job was to ram these sticks

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Speaker 3: of dynamite into the whole. It's your holiday job for

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Speaker 3: right then run like mad to get out of Wow,

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Speaker 3: he said, you know he I'm looking at blankly thinking because.

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Speaker 1: Now you actually a kid to go to the shop

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Speaker 1: to get a loaf of bread.

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Speaker 2: They what'd your last life? Greg? It's great to see

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Speaker 2: you catch Secrets of our cities Sundays on SBS and

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Speaker 2: SBS on demand. Greg Phavor, say hi to HG for us.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we'll tremit us to be here with the rugby

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Speaker 3: league season. We know it's going to be a rugby

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Speaker 3: league because people are in course, joins the and Amanda

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Speaker 3: in the morning one at one point seven, tell you