WEBVTT - Creating a successful authentic online presence & being a new working mum with blogger Sivan Ayla Richards 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Georgie Stevenson. I'm a lawyer and health coach,

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<v Speaker 1>social media influencer, wife and dog mum. On the Rise

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<v Speaker 1>and Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health,

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<v Speaker 1>relationships and more. This is a podcast for women who

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<v Speaker 1>want to rise up to be the best version of themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>who have big dreams in who are willing to put

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<v Speaker 1>in the work to get there. I want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you the tools and actionable steps to feel confident in yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>inspired to take bold action, and motivated to conquer your goals.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you with me? Your friends, Let's rise and conquer. Hi, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the Rise and Conquered Podcasts. I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very special guest for you, one who

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<v Speaker 1>you have asked for and I was fangirling the whole

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<v Speaker 1>time I was interviewing her. I have savonn Eila Richards.

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<v Speaker 1>Savann is a Los Angeles native living in the Valley

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<v Speaker 1>with her two dogs, Olive and Layla, her husband Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>and her baby girl, Capri. She began her blog in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven with the objective of sharing realistic approaches to style,

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<v Speaker 1>home decort, beauty, cooking, cocktail creation, crafting, and now mothering.

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<v Speaker 1>With an unfiltered voice, Savann tries to create contact that

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<v Speaker 1>provides value to her community by sharing personal experiences while

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<v Speaker 1>finding luxury in everything along the way. Savan shares everything

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<v Speaker 1>with her audience, which I think is a big reason

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<v Speaker 1>why we love her so much and we are always

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<v Speaker 1>wanting more. Today we chat about how Savan started blocking,

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<v Speaker 1>how it became so successful, how she keeps such an

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<v Speaker 1>engaged audience, and also the download on being a new

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<v Speaker 1>working mum with her baby Capri. I had so much

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<v Speaker 1>fun recording this episode and I know you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>going to love it. Hi, Savan, how are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? Thank you, Thank you so much for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast. I am so excited to have you here.

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<v Speaker 2>My gosh, thanks for having me. This is my first podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, is it really? Yeah? I've never done this before,

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<v Speaker 1>just took your podcast, Virginity, So I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>You did as a first or everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that so I cannot wait to get into

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<v Speaker 1>all the exciting and juicy questions I put on my

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram story that I was interviewing you, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>so many excited people with so many good questions. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into the good stuff. But before that,

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<v Speaker 1>as this is the Rise and Conquer podcast, what is

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<v Speaker 1>one thing big or small that you are rising up

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<v Speaker 1>and conquering this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Well this week if you follow along with my stories,

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<v Speaker 2>you totally get this. But this might sound simple, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've come to learn that the simple things are just

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<v Speaker 2>as challenging sometimes as the hard things. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things I'm challenging myself to this week is putting

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<v Speaker 2>the things in my closet away. I feel like every

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<v Speaker 2>single human being on this planet can sympathize with me

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<v Speaker 2>on this when I say that our closets become piles

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, clothes and discards and trash and hangtags.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's gotten to a point where it's become part

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<v Speaker 2>of my weekly challenge to figure out time to put

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<v Speaker 2>my clothes away. So one of the things I'm dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with this week is getting myself organized and putting my

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<v Speaker 2>clothes away.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so great. And I have seen his stories

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<v Speaker 1>about pull lasing his shit over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm not even joking you. He's thrown to divorce me.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like if you and also like threaten to like

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<v Speaker 2>leave me home on vacations. If you don't put the

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<v Speaker 2>clothes away by the end of this day, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>coming to Mexico. I have long threads howpen over the closet.

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<v Speaker 1>See. I kind of get it because my husband, Tim

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<v Speaker 1>is a total like neat freak, and we just moved

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<v Speaker 1>house and we have a walking robe for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time and he's like the exact same. He's like got

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<v Speaker 1>all his things in his little place and then like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just like chuck close and he will like go

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<v Speaker 1>and pick them up and be like you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, No, it's funny because men are sometimes the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite and I just happened to get a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>is like completely OCD and neurotic about these things. So

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<v Speaker 2>leave it to me and it gets stuck with something

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<v Speaker 2>like that when I have this closet problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, no food, I'm the exact the same. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because I'm like kind of because I know Tim

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<v Speaker 1>is such like a neat freak, I kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>am a bit more chill because I would, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know he kind of like, does it.

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<v Speaker 2>M exactly exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, awesome, So let's get straight into it. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>built this incredible online brand and really like loyal community.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something that I've noticed about your community is they're

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<v Speaker 1>very engaged, they're very invested, which is amazing. So how

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<v Speaker 1>did this whole online blog and brand stop?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So basically, I started my blog as a creative

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<v Speaker 2>outlet while I was still working a traditional nine to

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<v Speaker 2>five job. I was in the fashion industry, working in wholesale,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just not enjoyable by any means. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to get into too much detail, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like to just mention the fact that I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't working with people that were very nice, and I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I was creatively very stunted, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really feeling fulfilled. So I started my blog as

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<v Speaker 2>a hobby on the side, and I had been following

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of girls that I feel like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put blogging on the map at the time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just realized that you could have a career with it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not why I started it, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a big reason why it is where it is today

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't go into it for money. I went

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<v Speaker 2>into it for purely passion and for the love of

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<v Speaker 2>being creative and having complete creative freedom to do what

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted. And so I did it kind of for

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<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend who's now my husband at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and I had probably two readers, and I

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<v Speaker 2>still was pumping out content almost every single day. And

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like remaining consistent and doing it purely because

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it really helped it reach to where it

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<v Speaker 2>reached where it is today.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what year did you start the bloke?

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<v Speaker 2>I started in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's crazy, so good. Eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been a very long time. And for the

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<v Speaker 2>first few years, I would say I really had a

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<v Speaker 2>low readership. It wasn't anything to brag about, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>put it that way. But I just felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing it for myself and that's what kept it going.

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<v Speaker 2>And I obviously reached a point where I was putting

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<v Speaker 2>so much time and energy into it that Paul, my husband,

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<v Speaker 2>had to eventually be like, look, do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>pursue this as a career, because if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to take it to the next level. And

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<v Speaker 2>do something to kind of elevate things and speed it up.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had to eventually let go of everything I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing and take a giant risk, and it paid off, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>because now I'm here and I do this full time

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<v Speaker 2>and it's amazing. It's amazing that this is my job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing. And so Instagram obviously came after. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of noting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it came after, and it really wasn't. It's funny

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned that because yesterday I was kind of taking

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<v Speaker 2>a walk down memory lane on my Instagram page and

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<v Speaker 2>I scrolled all the way back to my very first post,

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<v Speaker 2>which I didn't realize Instagram was a social platform. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was an app to help you edit your

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<v Speaker 2>photos with filters. So like first caption was this app

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<v Speaker 2>is phenomenon. Like I was just talking to myself about

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<v Speaker 2>how great the app was. So yeah, I had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea that people could see my photos or my captions.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's funny because it took a while before

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<v Speaker 2>that realization happened. And then I kind of put two

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<v Speaker 2>and two together and I started seeing the bloggers that

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<v Speaker 2>I was following on the computer on Instagram, and it

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<v Speaker 2>like dawned on me like, oh, wow, people can see

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm posting, I should probably post something interesting or

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<v Speaker 2>say something interesting at least. And I think I went

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<v Speaker 2>through a long period of time where I was just

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<v Speaker 2>posting whatever whenever. There was really no rhyme or reason

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<v Speaker 2>or strategy behind it. You know, it just wasn't aligned

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<v Speaker 2>with my actual site. And it took a long time

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<v Speaker 2>for me to realize that. So Instagram was a whole

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<v Speaker 2>other beast.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. And so you obviously never intended to

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<v Speaker 1>become an influencer. That kind of just happened. And I

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<v Speaker 1>did see on your stories that you said that I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a trip to Capri or we don't know. Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is the holiday that put me on

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<v Speaker 1>the map as like an influencer. And so did you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see when you changed your content sort of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in influx of followers and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first instance I realized I was gaining momentum

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram was my wedding in Greece. The second time

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<v Speaker 2>was when I went to Italy the following summer and

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<v Speaker 2>we were celebrating our first wedding anniversary. I was gaining

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of momentum on Instagram, and so I obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the two things in common there are travel and it

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, destinations that are naturally so beautiful, and

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<v Speaker 2>content is flowing freely everywhere you go. You just find

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<v Speaker 2>something photogenic to take a photo of, and your living

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<v Speaker 2>your best life. Obviously, so things are interesting. But my

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<v Speaker 2>Italy trip specifically, I think there was something about the

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<v Speaker 2>content there that people love on Instagram. I think Italy

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<v Speaker 2>in general is one of those places where if you're

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<v Speaker 2>in Italy and you're either using the flag emoji or

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<v Speaker 2>you're hashtagging Italy or geotagging Italy, I think that there's

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<v Speaker 2>something that registers and in Instagram that you're either thrown

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<v Speaker 2>on the explore page or people are searching for, because

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<v Speaker 2>engagement was at an all time high for me there

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's like, I guess, you know, a dream sort

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<v Speaker 1>of destination.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely a dreamy place to be, and it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of makes it really easy for your content to

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<v Speaker 2>look cohesive and flow. Unintentionally because back then I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really know the whole beauty behind a cohesive feed or

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<v Speaker 2>an aesthetic. I really would just put up whatever I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like at the time, and it could be like

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<v Speaker 2>varying styles basically, but when you're in Italy, somehow, some way,

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<v Speaker 2>all your content is just cohesive. It flows, It's just

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<v Speaker 2>naturally mapped out and perfect without even trying.

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<v Speaker 1>And it probably helps that you're having an amazing time.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, exactly so, and let's sprits is the umbrellas that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, everything in Italy is just so gorgeous, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's just cohesive too.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think you were previously just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>You said you had no strategy and what is your

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<v Speaker 1>strategy now with your blog and Instagram? Do you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have one or do you kind of just go

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<v Speaker 1>off feelings and what your audience wants? Like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think makes it successful? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, after so much trial and error, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I now know what my audience is the most receptive to.

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<v Speaker 2>So while I try to keep things very like in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment and unfiltered and raw, I also know that

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<v Speaker 2>there's certain things that people are interested in, so for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>my home, my baby recipes. There's certain things that I

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<v Speaker 2>just know that I emphasize in my life. So obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a lot more going on than what you

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<v Speaker 2>see on the camera. But I know that when people

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<v Speaker 2>want to see specific topics, I make a point of

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<v Speaker 2>showing more of that. People love my husband. They think

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<v Speaker 2>he's funny, and you know, we're always poking fun at

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<v Speaker 2>each other, and he really plays a huge part in

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I showcase on my social media. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit of strategy behind what I post.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the most part, I think that we just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of know we focus in on the categories that

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<v Speaker 2>people are most interested in to keep them engaged. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're just going off your audience and what sort

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<v Speaker 1>of works best.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, I feel like, you know, I want I

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<v Speaker 2>want to give people what they want, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to have to force it. So for me, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the reason it works is because it's organically happening.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not setting up these situations or you know, going

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<v Speaker 2>out and creating a setting like we're actually living in

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<v Speaker 2>these settings. We're having these actual conversations, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>makes the content appealing to people. I think, because it

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<v Speaker 2>ends up coming across very relatable because it's everyday situations

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<v Speaker 2>that happen to everyday people. I'm not living a super

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<v Speaker 2>lavish life or wearing only designer. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>my life is just very relatable to people, which is

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately why I think people want to come back for more.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to see today what's going on in my

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<v Speaker 2>life that they can relate to.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent, I couldn't agree more. That's something I personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I have this podcast on YouTube, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bigger on Instagram and it's definitely more the fitness

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<v Speaker 1>and health angle. But I got to ask the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same question, and for me, I'm very much an everyday

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<v Speaker 1>girl where you know, I'm into fitness and health, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like my main priority. And I still have

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<v Speaker 1>a husband and I've got dogs, and it's all very

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<v Speaker 1>like relatable and real, which obviously like like it just

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<v Speaker 1>people can relate to it, so it makes it easy

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<v Speaker 1>content to consume.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, So what like three.

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<v Speaker 1>Tips that you could give someone if they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>start an online brand and community.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say three things to start your online brand and

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<v Speaker 2>community would be one, have a voice. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people associate bloggers with beautiful pictures and

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. And I think that if you really want

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<v Speaker 2>to make a difference, grow an audience, stand for something,

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<v Speaker 2>represent something you know, just be different than everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to have a voice that just

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<v Speaker 2>this differentiates you from everyone else. I just personally don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any interest in following someone who's purely pretty pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see personality. I want to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear if you have a sense of

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<v Speaker 2>humor that I relate to. You, know, like, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know more about the person. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>just see a curated image. The second thing i'd say

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<v Speaker 2>is be authentic and original. I know that's probably super

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<v Speaker 2>cliche to say, but I do feel like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very saturated industry, and I do still think there's room

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone to do what they want to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're trying to replicate someone or steal someone's formula

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<v Speaker 2>that works for them, thinking it's going to work for you,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's going to be a seiling for

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<v Speaker 2>you and people will see right through that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>personally think that remaining authentic and true to yourself is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the only thing you could do at this point

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<v Speaker 2>that's different than someone else. Because almost everything in this

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<v Speaker 2>universe has been done or designed, or created or invented,

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<v Speaker 2>and so in this space specifically, it's like your personality

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<v Speaker 2>and your voice is really all you have. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that to me is super important. And then three, I

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<v Speaker 2>think having value, adding value to someone's life is also

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<v Speaker 2>really important. So as a blogger, I you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>follow a bunch of bloggers and I've read a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of blogs over the years, and I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>always drew inspiration from these girls. And I looked at

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<v Speaker 2>the topics they were talking about and was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really interesting. But I have a different take on it,

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<v Speaker 2>So let me make a similar blog post. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give my opinions or my views, and adding value to

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<v Speaker 2>people is really the key if you're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a blog specifically, because like I just said, everyone kind

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<v Speaker 2>of talks about those blogger topics so to say, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we all say, here's your Italy travel guide,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, ten jackets to where this winter, or

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm packing to Coachella. We're all kind of talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the same topics. But if you can take that

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<v Speaker 2>and add value to someone somewhere, I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to make you successful as a blogger. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't just give people like surface level information.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that those three tips were amazing, and so

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<v Speaker 1>just touching more on being authentic. So what if someone

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know, you know, they don't know their style yet

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know what they like. Would you recommend just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of trialing things out and seeing how they go,

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<v Speaker 1>or how would someone go about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I have two thoughts on that. My first one is

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like anyone should really have to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what they like. You either know you like it

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<v Speaker 2>or you don't like it. And that could just be

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<v Speaker 2>me because I'm very decisive. I know right away when

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<v Speaker 2>I like something and when I don't like something, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like I have to go out looking for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as like your style goes, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like what feels natural to you. There's like trends,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, like dad sneakers. I despise them at the

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<v Speaker 2>minute I saw them. I don't care who's wearing them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care which designer made them, I don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck. Like those are ugly to me and you

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<v Speaker 2>will not see me rocking them, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm literal sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Money and tim, which this exact same topic, like free

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<v Speaker 1>days great, and he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, like it's just it's like one of

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<v Speaker 2>those things like I just knew right away that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>for me. And even though it's popular and maybe if

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<v Speaker 2>I hashtag the right thing, I would get more likes

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<v Speaker 2>my photos or maybe you would get a different audience,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not me. It's not who I am, and so

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way I can do that to myself. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's just like one very simple example of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't conform to things because they're in or trendy

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<v Speaker 2>or cool or whatever. I personally just stick to what

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<v Speaker 2>I know what I like, and I think that that

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<v Speaker 2>register is true and authentic to my audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. No, you explain that, so love And

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<v Speaker 1>so one last question just about the blog. I personally

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<v Speaker 1>love blogs. I follow blogers. I'm a big fan. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely look at your blog for food and fashion and

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<v Speaker 1>skincare and just like Daily Life inspurs all about that book.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I know that lots of people are saying the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional blogs are dead. What is your thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely have heard that, and when I first heard it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of sad because I'm like, wait, but honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>writing my blog is one of my favorite parts of

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<v Speaker 2>being a blogger, and I do still call myself a blogger,

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<v Speaker 2>even though we've got this new term influencer, which I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like embodies are pretty good. It's just a good

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<v Speaker 2>description for what people are doing on social media these days.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I personally like to identify with the

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<v Speaker 2>term blogger better because I do put so much time

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<v Speaker 2>and effort and energy into my blog, and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I always want to provide value to my readers,

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<v Speaker 2>so I spend a lot of time coming up with

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<v Speaker 2>topics that either are not discussed or if I think

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<v Speaker 2>I have an interesting take on something. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that traditional blogging in the sense that you're just putting

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<v Speaker 2>out like that surface level content we talked about, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's dead. I think that that's, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>diamond dozen. We don't really need that anymore, especially with Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that if you're a blogger that's pumping

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<v Speaker 2>out like valuable content that people want to read, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's dead. I think that, you know, brands

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<v Speaker 2>also are still really interested in reading blog posts about

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<v Speaker 2>reviews and their products and their services, So I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's still a lot to be done on blogs, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it just depends on the blogger and

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of content you're writing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I couldn't agree more. And something I've even noticed

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<v Speaker 1>with just me and my taste and blogs is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very used to look at and read a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>blogs where you kind of didn't even know the face

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<v Speaker 1>behind the blog. It was more like this like concept,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, Whereas now I follow and read a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of blogs because I know the person and even though

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the person, but I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>have this you know, connection with this person and it's

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<v Speaker 1>very personal and you're trusting you know their taste and

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. So I couldn't agree more. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to move on, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about your beautiful little girl Capri personally

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<v Speaker 1>like not maternal at all. I'm like that odd person

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm only twenty four, but I don't know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>all my friends are like, oh my god, babies, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, just not a fan. I didn't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think great and I'm like, hmm, maybe I could

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<v Speaker 1>have children so gorgeous. And I loved watching your whole

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<v Speaker 1>pacy and just kind of going through the journey with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to ask you, so, what's life like

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<v Speaker 1>after your first baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first off, thank you so much obviously as a mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's that thing I love hearing more than someone

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<v Speaker 2>telling me that they think my baby's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I could imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's like my greatest compliment these days. But

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<v Speaker 2>life after baby is it's definitely challenging, it's amazing, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's very rewarding. One thing I didn't really think that

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<v Speaker 2>I would recognize in being a mother is how fulfilling

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<v Speaker 2>it feels to take care of somebody, because, like you

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<v Speaker 2>just said, you're not maternal. I'm not maternal at all.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not one maternal bone in my body. This when

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<v Speaker 2>Paul when he's sick, I'm like, no, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 2>can You'll be fine, you'll live.

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally Whenning was like wake me up, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like four of the morning because he walked Ellie and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, I'm feeling a bit sick, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why did you wake me? Yeah? A person,

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<v Speaker 1>So I resonate with Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I can relate. I mean, I just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've never been that kind of person that's a caretaker,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I was very concerned about that. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what would happen when I had her.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's been amazing to kind of see how my

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<v Speaker 2>body just clicks into the role of being a mother

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<v Speaker 2>and taking care of her and it's my priority. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it's definitely I think it just clicks. I think

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<v Speaker 2>people say that all the time. You don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>that means, but when it happens to you, you just

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<v Speaker 2>you get it and you know it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as everything goes in life, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>having her has just been the best thing that's ever

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<v Speaker 2>happened to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh g commertional, I'm like crazy at all. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>really about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, your hormones get all fucked up, so you become

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<v Speaker 2>this like emotional, like mushy person. All my girlfriends are like,

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<v Speaker 2>who are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Honey?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, So but it's amazing. But were you asking

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<v Speaker 2>me about career stuff or just like in life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we'll get into that, but I also I also

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you, say, like, how did you know

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<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to start having children? Like how did

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of come back, because how old are you?

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't mind me asking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty one. I think I'm twenty five, but thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, this question has been asked multiple times, and

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<v Speaker 2>really the answer is I didn't know that I was ready.

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<v Speaker 2>It was more something that just happened. And yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fully admitting it was an accident, but I have no shame.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. It's, you know, obviously the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's ever happened, so I will own that. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was one of those things where Paul and I just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like looked at our lives and realized that

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<v Speaker 2>we've traveled a bunch. We were secure in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>or we owned a home, and we felt very comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>in our careers, and we both felt like we've achieved

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of personal goals that we didn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>having a child would ever hold us back or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>make us feel like we're missing out on something, or

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't fully like give it our all before settling

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<v Speaker 2>down like that, because obviously a child is a huge

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 2>commitment and responsibility and it's going to change your life

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 2>whether you like it or not. So we personally felt

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>like we were in a good place if we were

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 2>to have a child, it was going to be fine.

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 2>And we had not that we've been trying, but it

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 2>had been a few years since we got married. I

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 2>want to say it was three years, and we kind

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 2>of looked at each other and we're like, well, like,

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 2>do we want to have a child? And we said, okay,

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 2>next year if like it doesn't happen naturally, like let's

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 2>sit down and actually talk about it with like a

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:20.479
<v Speaker 2>doctor or whatever. Next year. And then literally like that

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 2>week if yeah, like that same week that we had

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 2>made this decision, Yeah, I got pregnant. I didn't know

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:31.360
<v Speaker 2>for the next six weeks. But it's just crazy how

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.640
<v Speaker 2>that happens. It's just like you put things out into

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:35.479
<v Speaker 2>the universe, and I feel like when you don't stress

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 2>about them and you don't fixate on them and obsess

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 2>over them, I feel like things just kind of fall

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 2>into place. So that's how that happened. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some things that have been big adjustments that

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you kind of weren't prepared to after having Capri.

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>One of the adjustments I had to make was really

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 2>disciplining myself when I came to work, because I have

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 2>always been a very disciplined person, and I've always been

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>self employed, so I kind of always knew what it

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 2>took to be structured and work from home. But today

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like one of the biggest challenges is because she's

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>home and I'm home and I have help, and all

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I want to do is spend time with her when

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 2>she's awake, and it's just very, very challenging, and I

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 2>never expected this to be the case for me, Like

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I have to like be really really selective about how

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I spend my time these days. So if it means

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>skilled events because I need to be home for her bedtime,

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>or canceling a shoot because she's just not feeling well,

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 2>there's just, you know, sacrifices you make, and you can't

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 2>ever foresee those things happening. You don't know when they're

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 2>going to pop up. And that's been a challenge in

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 2>something that I just didn't really expect. I didn't expect

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 2>to really ever feel like I'm putting work on the

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 2>back burner for anything. But you know, you do what

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you have to do. She's my priority.

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>And so do you have any advice for soon to

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 1>be moms out there who are in their own business

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>who was self employed?

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm going to sound like such a ugy bitch

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>right now, but I just have to say it, like

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I got a night nurse, and it was something that's

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>super foreign to my to me because my husband and

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I did not grow up with nanny or a night

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 2>nurse or any of those things. Like we were just

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, we had our parents.

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Can I quickly ask, what is a night mess?

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so a night nurse is a basically, it's a

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>night nanny. It's someone who specializes in like infants, and

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>they come to your house as soon as you want

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.959
<v Speaker 2>them to, like we had ours come basically right when

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 2>we came home from the hospital. We didn't know what

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 2>we'd want at first, because we're like, oh, we should

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 2>try to do it ourselves, you know, like come home.

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 2>But after you're in the hospital for three days and

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you're sleep deprived, you obviously like the shock of your

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>life just happened. You need sleep more than anything in

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the world when you get home. And I personally called

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>our night nurse was like, never mind, you're coming the

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>day we come home from the hospital. We were being

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>way too ambitious here, and so a night nurs comes

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>at night, and basically they're all different, obviously, but ours

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>came from nine pm and she stayed until seven am.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>And basically what it did was give us the peace

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 2>of mind to go to sleep, sleep soundly, and know

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 2>that our baby's taken care of. Her feedings were going

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>to happen, she was going to get changed, and if

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 2>she woke up, then there's going to be someone to

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>soothe her back to bed. And obviously, this is my

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>first baby, so I didn't really know what to expect,

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>but we happened to get super, super lucky and get

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 2>a child that loves to sleep. So she was a

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 2>very easy baby, and even our night nurse was like, wow,

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 2>your baby is insanely easy. And there was times where

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>we were just like, we know, we're just wasting the money,

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 2>throwing it in the garbage, basically because she's such an

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>easy baby. But it's also the peace of mind, like Yeah,

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 2>we knew when we had her we could sleep well,

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 2>which meant in the moarning, you're happier, you're more energized,

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>you're enjoying your time with your baby, you're not frustrated,

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>you have a clear mind, you can work. So it

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 2>was very, very, very crucial for us to be well rested,

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>especially in the beginning when she's such a new baby.

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>It's such a new concept to us that we felt

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 2>like we truly enjoyed like every moment of her coming

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>home and being a baby, and we were just so happy.

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like without sleep, that would have been

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 2>a very different extpt experience for me. So being self employed,

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I depend on sleep. I need to work from home.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I need to be awake and sharp. And that was

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 2>what really did it for me, is having a night nurse.

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I love that. So you're kind of giving the advice

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of when you need help, get help.

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely. I think that so many moms they feel

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 2>so guilty all that mom shame stuff, and it's like

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>in the mom guilt and I feel like that's just

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>such bullshit. Like it's twenty nineteen and we women work

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 2>and men work, and it's just one of those things

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>like it's the human body. We need rest, we need sleep,

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think anyone is designed to operate properly

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>on you know, no sleep.

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I love that you're breaking that stereotype. Like I feel

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.479
<v Speaker 1>like you said, like we live in this world and

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not just the women stay at home and look

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>after baby, like we work as well, and so I

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like you would have known that you might have

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>got a bit of judgment from that. I love that

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, fuck it, I need this my business.

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do this. Like I kind of even experienced

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the same. I have like a cleaner,

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and so I grew up like my mom was a

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>stay at home mum, and so like when I told

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>her I have a cleaner, she was like shocked to

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the core, not shocked. I work from home, and so

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>so many people like didn't understand it. But I was like, yeah,

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but I work, like I don't have time, you know,

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and T only comes once every fortnight. But I even

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>felt because I had a cleaner, but I was like, no,

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I need this, like I work full time, Tim works

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>full time, Like it's not easy to just do it all.

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And so I love that you're breaking that stereotype, and

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>it's being transparent about it.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>There's people that do all these things behind the scenes

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 2>and pretend like they don't have the help, and you know,

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 2>because that's like what you quote unquote should do and

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>you know what's expected of you, and you know, social

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>media is, in my opinion, a great place to really

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>like shed light on what's actually happening, and a lot

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>of people want to hide the reality of what's happening

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 2>and make things look so prim and proper and perfect,

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>and we all know like having babies, it's messy, it's dirty,

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>it's not always pretty, and you know the reality of

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 2>raising a baby it's difficult, it's challenging, you cry, you

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>are dirty, you have spit up on you. You know, Like,

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I just don't see the reason to hide all that.

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it's so much more comforting when you're honest

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 2>about things and then people can like know that there's

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>other people out there experiencing the same things and you

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 2>can talk about it, and then just having that comfort

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>to me, it just makes me feel a lot better.

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I love when I can kind of share a challenging

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>situation and my audience responds like, oh my gosh, Thank

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>god you said that, because I thought I was the

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:55.479
<v Speaker 2>only one going through this, and it's so nice to

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 2>know that someone else is dealing with the same things.

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>So exact, I have no Yeah, I have no problem

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 2>sharing that I ask for help when I need it.

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I love that amazing. Okay, And so I

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you, and this is might be a

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>bit of a selfish question, just because I'm obviously married

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to Tim, and it is sometimes hard juggling a career,

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>especially intertwined with social media, because you can make the

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>excuse of when you're on your phone, you're like, oh,

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 1>this is work, I need to be doing this, but

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>it can sometimes you know, af fetch your relationships and

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff. So I just wanted you

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to go in, what is life like, you know with

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to call him Richard, but yeah, and so

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>what's life like with Paul? Do you guys have any

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>like sort of boundaries with your phones or anything like

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>that with social media?

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's a stage mom, so for him, like the

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 2>more or I share, the better he loves it. I

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>think it's funny because people would expect it to be

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the other way around. People think, oh, se Vaughan's the

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 2>actual influencer, so she's probably on her phone all day

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and that's like a very common question. We have a lot,

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, don't you get so frustrated with her on

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.479
<v Speaker 2>her phone all the time. And it's actually funny because

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like he's the one being more pushy about

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 2>me being on the phone more. That's good because you know,

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 2>he's super supportive and he feels like he thinks I'm hilarious,

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 2>so he always wants to document all the like the

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 2>ridiculous things that I say and do, and you know,

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't always think to grab my phone in those moments,

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>but he does. And so I think that it's an

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 2>unspoken role in our house where it's just kind of

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>like we know when it's time to put the phones

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>away and when it's fine to have them out. Basically,

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>at night, we like to have dinner together and catch

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 2>up about our day because Paul works a traditional job.

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 2>He's an entertainment attorney, so he's, you know, at work

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 2>all day. I'm here all day doing my thing, and

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 2>then at the end of the day we come together,

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>we have dinner, we'll eat and then sometimes at the

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 2>end of dinner, it's like we'll have a funny conversation

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'll almost recap it for my stories. So sometimes

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 2>you'll see me at the dinner table snapping. But for

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the most part, it's like we know that that's like

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>our alone time. It's how we spend quality time together

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.439
<v Speaker 2>catching up and we always have things to talk about,

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.240
<v Speaker 2>which I think is it's a whole different topic, actually,

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>but it's just nice that we can always have that

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 2>time to ourselves and we carve out time for each

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 2>other and it's like the cameras are not on and

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>that's our alone time. But I feel like for the

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>most part, we just kind of know what each other's

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 2>boundaries are and when it's like okay to have the

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>phone on, and when it's like okay, it's too much.

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I love that, And I love how supportive

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>he is of you and your business and your career.

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>It's really lovely.

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 2>It really is a nice feeling. I know a lot

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.439
<v Speaker 2>of girls that they tell me that their white friends

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 2>or husbands get really irritated by it, and I just

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 2>can't imagine. I feel like I would be so discouraged

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 2>if that's how my significant other was, just because it's like,

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you spend so much time with them that you want

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.439
<v Speaker 2>to feel like they're okay with it and that they're

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 2>comfortable with it and they're supporting it. I would I

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 2>just I honestly don't think I could do it without

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:15.720
<v Speaker 2>his support.

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, one hundred percent amazing. Okay, So I want to

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>ask one last question, and this is because I feel

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like Instagram has really or even just social media in general,

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>even blogs like at the moment or recently, have really

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>gone in the way of, you know, everyone's wearing designer stuff,

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of puts an image, especially for like

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>younger girls who don't necessarily have this sort of money,

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and they'll go out and blow the whole entire pay

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>on your Knowscucci back, yeah, and stuff like that instead

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of saving. Like, I feel like social media has really

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>taken this turn where it's very much about branded things

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and looking a certain way and that sort of thing.

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>And I know you do love like design of things,

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>but then you also love a good bargain. I'm much

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>like you in that way, and so you kind of

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>in between that sort of look, and so I just

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get your advice on for others, like, what

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 1>is your take on the whole getting caught up in

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the you know, design a thing on social media and

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>what are your rules on spending?

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so for me, designer has always been something I love.

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 2>I've always loved fashion, even as a young girl, and

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I always knew that if I wanted something really frivolous

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 2>or extravagant or beyond my means, that I was going

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 2>to have to save for it. So I got a

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.479
<v Speaker 2>job as early as I possibly could. My best friend

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and I who's still my best friend today, at fifteen

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>years old, we went and got boutique jobs just so

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 2>we could support our shopping addiction because our parents were

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>obviously like, you girls are fifteen, why do you need

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 2>to have anything the time is juicy gutur? You know,

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 2>we died for juicy coutur. And our parents were not

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>down to bias like two hundred dollars like sweatpants. So,

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, like that was instilled in me from the beginning,

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 2>like if I wanted something that was expensive or just designer,

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 2>it was going to have to be on my heart

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>earned dollar. And at the end of the day, if

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I was okay blowing my money like that, then that

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>was on me. But obviously now as a grown up

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and I have responsibilities, and I have bills, and I

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 2>have to budget. I kind of have to make sure

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>that I'm living within my means. And thankfully Paul is

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 2>a finance major, so he's always been really on me about,

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, making sure that at the end of the day,

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>all my bills must be paid. I have to put

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 2>some money away in the savings, and then what's left

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>over for my like fun money or my play money

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>is what I'm allowed to spend, and that to me

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>is super important. So I even to this day, if

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I want something that's super expensive, even if I can

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 2>afford it without having to go through the whole motion

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 2>of like mapping out my money to the dollar, I

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>still have to like go home and think about it

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 2>and make sure that it's worth it and it's something

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to use long term and it's not

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 2>just a trendy like in the moment purchase. I think

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>that today there's so many cute things Gucci, for example,

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 2>like they just pump out shit left and right that

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 2>is so cute. Every time I walk by, I'm like, oh,

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 2>so many cute things. But I am not afraid to

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 2>say that I have purchased one or two things from

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 2>there that I feel like like I just jumped the gun.

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I went too fast and I was like, fuck, now

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that's trendy and I'm not even like that into it anymore,

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 2>and I feel guilty about it. And now I have

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 2>to look at that bag sitting there being like shit,

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I should have bought something else because that was like

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 2>an impulse buy. So when you're gonna buy designer, I

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 2>feel like you need to really make sure it's something

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 2>that is a classic piece. You're gonna love it for

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 2>a long time. It's obviously within your means. Don't like

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>blow your whole rent money on a bag. I think

0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 2>that's really silly. Just be why about those kinds of things.

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely about treating yourself, but I think you have

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 2>to do it in a reasonable way if that makes sense.

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, one hundred percent. And I love what you said

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>about getting clear, so you know, paying your bills, putting

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>some money away from tax or rent or all that

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff, and then being clear about what you

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>can spend. And then when you do go and spend

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that money, it feels like really good because you're like,

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you know you can.

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Of course I think that, like I've made purchases in

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the past, like don't like, don't be confused, Like I

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 2>wasn't always responsible with my money. I was one of

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 2>those people. This was like in my early twenties, I

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 2>was living paycheck to paycheck. I would buy things well

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 2>beyond my means and I would be racking up credit

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 2>card debt just so I could buy like nice things.

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 2>And it was almost like it took Paul to realize

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.439
<v Speaker 2>what I was doing. And he was like, what's wrong

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:54.879
<v Speaker 2>with you? You have no savings, You're buying all these

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.799
<v Speaker 2>designer things. You're blowing your money on designer things, and

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 2>you can't afford your bills, Like what is problem? Like

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.479
<v Speaker 2>how are you not seeing what you're doing wrong here?

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 2>And I was like wait what? And I was so

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 2>shocked by the whole thing you like, and then we

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of yeah, it was like I needed like a

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 2>reality check really And now, I mean, the way I

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 2>view money is so different than when I was younger,

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think as you get older, you start to

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 2>like understand the value of money more. And even though

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I had to work for it, I was blowing it.

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what am I doing here? So yeah,

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all about just being smart about it,

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.479
<v Speaker 2>make good choices, live within your means. If you can't

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>afford it, don't buy it. You know, that's just plain

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and simple how it should go. But I know how

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>girls are, and like you said, social media makes everything

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.760
<v Speaker 2>look so appealing and everyone left and right is carrying

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.879
<v Speaker 2>like a Chanel. I just bought my first Chanel last week,

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 2>and I was really really like holding out on that

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>one because it's so expensive.

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, one hundred per said, I think that's such a

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>good idea. I definitely like before any designer purchases. Not

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that I buy it that like much, but I definitely

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>like had to give myself time and be like really

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>think about it, and because I'm like that where I

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>want things like in the moment and I want it now,

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>but then if like I wait a week or two,

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and then it kind of cools off and I'm like, oh,

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't really actually want that, or like I really

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>stalled that, you know that well, or.

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 2>No, that's true. My girlfriend, my best friend, she actually

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.879
<v Speaker 2>taught me this rule that I can't take credit for.

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 2>She basically said, you have to picture yourself using this

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 2>with three different outfits. So this is like specifically in

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.320
<v Speaker 2>regards to shoes. So for her, she's like a shoe attict,

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and she was always like, if I can envision three

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>different looks, like entirely different looks with the pair of shoes,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 2>then I'm going to go for it. But if you

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 2>can't imagine yourself wearing it three different ways, don't buy it.

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Because we're talking like, you know, an expensive shoe, not

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 2>like something you know every day. But that's kind of

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 2>like been ingrained in my head now for bags, you

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 2>know I can imagine it. Yeah, then don't don't do it.

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't buy it for like a one off thing or

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 2>just for a one time event you know you have.

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 2>It has to be like a long term purchase.

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I actually did think similar. I wanted it

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like a muted green color, which it

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:25.959
<v Speaker 1>sounds gross, but it and and then I thought to myself, hmm,

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I just don't see myself like it might look good

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>with a couple of outfits, but not like a lot.

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I love that real that's awesome. And

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>so also, what is your sort of take on the

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 1>whole getting the designer, Like you said, when you've saved

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>up living within your means, but also not being like

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a brand snob and still like finding the bargains and

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily everything has to be a certain brand.

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely a big fan of mixing the highs and

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 2>the lows. It's just not realistic to live in all

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 2>the designer and even if I had the choice too,

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to. I feel like there's a level

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 2>of anxiety you get when you're carrying or wearing something

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 2>really expensive, and so to me, I personally would like

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>not be able to stand that. So I love living

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 2>in my levies. I'm wearing like a plain white T shirt,

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'll wear a Chanel bag or a Gucci bag

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and I feel like I'm a million dollars,

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you know. Like it's just that feeling of having a

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 2>little accessory to elevate your luck. I think that's really

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:33.359
<v Speaker 2>all you need. And so I've always been a big

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>fan of handbags, Like that's my favorite designer splurge is

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 2>a handbag.

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I've never really been big on designer shoes because I

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 2>feel like you wear them out or you don't wear

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 2>them at all. It's kind of one of those things

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 2>like the Gucci loafers. I wear those to death. But

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 2>then I would never buy expensive high heels because I

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 2>can't and wear high heels anymore. It's like a waste

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>of money. So I just think that mixing the highs

0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 2>and lows is the way to go. I feel like

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 2>it's it's nice, it's effortless, it's realistic, and then you

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 2>just feel like you're carrying something nice with you while

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 2>wearing a normal person every day.

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Else it awesome. Well, I am going to wrap up

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 1>this interview. It has been so amazing to talk to

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 1>you about all these awesome topics, all very different, but

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. Thank you so much for being on

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 1>the show. Do you want to just let the audience know,

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you know where they can find your blog and your Instagram,

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>any plugs that you have, anything that's happening at the moment.

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Sure. Well, thank you so much for having me on

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 2>the podcast. This was really really fun and for being

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 2>my first time. I feel like I'm obsessed.

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Now, so fun like a conversation.

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, like we're vffs now, this is great.

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm a VFF in Australia. I know I'm excited, but yeah,

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 2>everyone can find me on Instagram obviously. My handle is

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 2>at sivon aila and and my blog is just my

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 2>name as well ww dot dot com. And as far

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.280
<v Speaker 2>as everything else goes, I've got a lot of things

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 2>in the works. I can't really talk too much about it,

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 2>but for anyone that's been following me in the past,

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 2>we'll know I do a lot of product collaborations, and

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 2>I do a lot of fun things throughout the year

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 2>just to kind of keep it interesting and a good

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 2>way for me to connect with my audience in a

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 2>tangible way. So stay tuned because I definitely have some

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 2>fun things coming out this year. So I love it.

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Make sure you're following her Instagram and you'll see so

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:35.760
<v Speaker 1>many cute stories and photos of Kupra you'll dot.

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh my gosh, yeah, just go to her and

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 2>get me.

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I love it, all right, Thank you so much. I

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<v Speaker 1>would talk to you later, all right, Thank you, hie bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for listening into this week's episode. If

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