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Speaker 1: Rugby NT and Deadly Rugby have teamed up to host

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Speaker 1: their first cultural immersion camp in Darwin.

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Speaker 2: It kicked off yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It aims to support indigenous players, rep teams and coaches

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Speaker 1: while promoting the Northern Territory as an ideal destination for

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Speaker 1: school sporting trips. And joining us in the studio to

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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about it is Deadly

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Speaker 1: Rugby founder Toby Ellas.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Toby.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lovely to have you in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Now tell me a little bit about this program and

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Speaker 1: what it's all about.

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Speaker 4: So Deadly Rugby was a well intended midlife crisis. So

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Speaker 4: I'm a Territory boy by trade and kind of moved

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Speaker 4: south for work yep. And I had three little little

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Speaker 4: girls and started thinking, abou, how do I be a

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Speaker 4: better dad and contribute more to my community? And it

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Speaker 4: kind of got me to Deadly Rugby because I'm very

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Speaker 4: grateful for what sport did for me as a young

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Speaker 4: fellow growing up in small country towns in the NT.

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Speaker 4: You know, I could have gone left, but instead I

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Speaker 4: went to footage training and I wanted to try.

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Speaker 3: And give a little bit about that back.

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Speaker 4: Also wanted to promote the NT, you know, because I'm

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Speaker 4: very proud of the NT and it should be a

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Speaker 4: destination of choice for schools to create cultural immersion camps.

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Speaker 1: I reckon, you're so right, you know, for a lot

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Speaker 1: of young people, if you've got that sport and you've

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Speaker 1: got that path to you know, to sort of go

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Speaker 1: down you're going to footy training or you're going to

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Speaker 1: whatever sport you're involved into that training.

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Speaker 2: It does help to keep you out of trouble.

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Speaker 1: I know for myself growing up in Mountaiser, I was

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Speaker 1: a bit better behaved than my brothers. But certainly, you know,

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Speaker 1: it does keep you on the straight and narrow in

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely does a whole lot of good. And you never

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Speaker 3: noticed it at the time.

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Speaker 4: It's only when you're a little bit older and you think, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, I owl a bit to that sport. And

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Speaker 4: so this is about how do you kind of give

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Speaker 4: back and create those same opportunities for other kids.

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Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about this immersion camp

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Speaker 1: and how it's going to work or how it's working.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we've got our first camp running now, started

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Speaker 4: yesterday and we've got two of Australia's strongest rugby schools

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Speaker 4: who have taken part Shore and Barker and they brought

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Speaker 4: the sixteen days up pay for themselves to come and

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Speaker 4: take part in our cultural immersion camp. So it's country

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Speaker 4: culture rugby, so Rugby's third and these guys it's experience

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Speaker 4: of a lifetime. They've got Uncle Richie Fijo and Uncle

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Speaker 4: Raymond with them. The whole week went at a Litchfield

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Speaker 4: National Park yesterday and should have seen their eyes lighted up.

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Speaker 4: They've got local indigenous players join their groups, so it's

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Speaker 4: a real authentic side by side immersion. They're also playing

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Speaker 4: some games while we're here and so we've got a

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Speaker 4: head to head game on Thursday night, we've got two

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Speaker 4: rep trials, the Northern Territory under fourteens and under sixteens

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Speaker 4: will vie for NT positions, and then after that at

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Speaker 4: seven fifteen we've got Barker vesa Shaw which is a

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Speaker 4: really big game streamed streamline.

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Speaker 3: But the following night those.

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Speaker 4: Local players that have been touring with the teams, they'll

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Speaker 4: fold into those teams and get to play alongside, so

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Speaker 4: they're actually training with Barker and Sure at the moment

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Speaker 4: so it's all about how do you give local kids

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Speaker 4: an opportunity developed local sport, promote the Northern Territory, but

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Speaker 4: also give these schools an opportunity to visit and experience

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Speaker 4: the antique.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Has it been a bit of an eye opener for

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Speaker 1: some of those schools, Absolutely, some of those kids.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, But it's been amazing. Like even on day one,

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Speaker 4: we were hoping that the connections would happen, and we're

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Speaker 4: hoping after a few days or few trainings, or even

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Speaker 4: after going into battle on the friday together will create

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Speaker 4: that mate ship. But even after the first training session,

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Speaker 4: you know, we had a couple of the kids coming

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Speaker 4: off after training and they'll be high fived by the

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Speaker 4: touring schools, and so they've already made these connections.

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Speaker 3: It couldn't be going any better. We're really stoked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there opportunity then for those territory kids

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Speaker 1: to potentially I don't I look at scholarships at those

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Speaker 1: schools or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's part of it, Katie.

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Speaker 4: I think in talking to a lot of these schools

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Speaker 4: which created the idea of Deadly Rugby and some of

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Speaker 4: the problems they were trying to solve were how do

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Speaker 4: they create cultural immersion camps for their kids because they

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Speaker 4: want the kids to be more culturally aware. And part

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Speaker 4: of the premise of Deadly Rugby was, you know, we're

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Speaker 4: jealous of the kiwis like for a ranger stuff, but

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Speaker 4: one of them is the is their perceived relationship with

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Speaker 4: their First Nations people, right, And we think that's that's

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Speaker 4: an ambition that we deserve. And so how do you

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Speaker 4: change your hearts and minds of kids? And that's what

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Speaker 4: these schools are looking to do. But they're also looking

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Speaker 4: to try and create opportunities for Indigenous kids with or

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Speaker 4: local kids for scholarship pathways.

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Speaker 2: So tell me how many kids are involved.

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Speaker 4: So look at the moment we've got in the Deadly

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Speaker 4: Rugby camp. We've got two schools, so that's about sixty

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Speaker 4: kids have come up with their teams. We've got the

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Speaker 4: two reptrial games happening. We also run Deadly Rugby after school,

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Speaker 4: so it's running nulla boy at the moment where our

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Speaker 4: kids in a like community get to go to footy training. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and the other thing we've got is Deadly Rugby gear.

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Speaker 4: And some of these private schools, you know, they upgrade

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Speaker 4: their gear regularly in the name of privilege, and so

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Speaker 4: they're happy to give it to me so that we

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Speaker 4: can put it in the hands of kids that they

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Speaker 4: have access to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you forget, you know, people do forget sometimes

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Speaker 1: just how privilege they are right comparatively to you know,

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Speaker 1: to other people that live in other states. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And the schools want this, right, The schools want them

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Speaker 4: to go back knowing that, you know, actually how lucky

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Speaker 4: they've got it. And part of this is about giving back.

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Speaker 4: But I'm also my stress, like the we've got a

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Speaker 4: boys camp in April. Yeah, okay, but the Ladies as

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Speaker 4: the father of three daughters, the Ladies is September awesome,

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Speaker 4: and that's happening twenty second or twenty fourth to the

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Speaker 4: twenty eighth, the September culminating in the Darwin Hot of sevens.

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Speaker 4: And it's just it's done like that based on the

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Speaker 4: terms of rugby seasons of rugby down South.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Now tell me, have you got some sporting stars involved

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Speaker 1: or who have you got involved?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Actually you probably shouldn't be talking to me because I'm

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Speaker 4: not very interesting. But Andrew Walker, you know, one of

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Speaker 4: the Great Wallabies and Rumby's dual international that played rugby,

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Speaker 4: league and rugby. Only one of forty people that have

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Speaker 4: done that. Yeah, so he's a proud indigenous man. Only

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Speaker 4: one of fourteen Indigenous Wallabies. Can you believe he's our ambassador?

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Speaker 4: And that's the young thing. The kids, the local kids

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Speaker 4: and the two in kids. They spend a week with

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Speaker 4: Andrew Walker. Yeah, a week with Uncle Richie, week with

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Speaker 4: Uncle Raymond. So it's just a fabulous experience for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, our wonderful stuff, Laurick, and it sounds fantastic. How

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Speaker 1: can people find out a little bit more or go

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Speaker 1: and maybe watch the games if they came'll come along.

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Speaker 3: We definitely want people. I feel like a fifteen year old.

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Speaker 4: He's organized a party and I'm not sure if anybody

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Speaker 4: will show up and it turn up, right, So please

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Speaker 4: do me a favor and come up. We want this

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Speaker 4: to be an annual thing that happens twice a year

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Speaker 4: in April and September.

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Speaker 3: This is not a one off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we've got a game on Thursday night. It

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Speaker 4: kicks off at six pm. Come down support the local

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Speaker 4: kids and the touring kids. There's a Barbarians game on

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Speaker 4: Friday night, so you know, all you've got to do

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Speaker 4: is rock up and just experience some good rugby good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, Toby Elli's lovely to speak with you this morning,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Deadly Rugby founder. Good to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you and really good to hear about the camp.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks for your Tom, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you,